Re: OT: RE: Spring or Tapestry Framework

2004-07-08 Thread Bryan Hunt
The predecessor is such a cool book that it's probably a collectors item.
--b
Joe Germuska wrote:
At 4:19 PM -0400 7/7/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, I'm sure Rod's new book includes solutions that leverage 
Spring: 
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/h9a6d8t7p6/ss/1?qs=EJB+without+J2EEGo.x=0Go.y=0Go=Go 

BTW, BookPool has this book at 50% off, saving 7.19 over Amazons 
price.  That's just crazy.

Especially because they're asking $10 more for the 2003 predecessor 
which is presumably obsoleted by this!

In case anyone is still asking the original question that spawned this 
thread, note that Tapestry is a more elaborate framework which 
probably is an alternative to Struts, not something you'd use with 
Struts.  At least, I've never heard of anyone doing that.

HiveMind is a piece of Tapestry which has been factored out and which 
more accurately peers to Spring -- although Spring has an MVC layer 
which peers to Tapestry and Struts.  Yes, confusing.  Still, I think 
at the level at which the original question targetted, a more accurate 
comparison would be between Spring and HiveMind.

I have no experience with HiveMind.  I've been pretty happy using 
Spring as a lightweight configuration management tool for wiring 
together beans at initialization time.

Joe
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Spring or Tapestry Framework

2004-07-07 Thread gdeschen
I'd like to thank both Robert and Jim for yesterdays help with my Request 
bean is lost.
After a small 30 Km bike ride I decided to go with the hidden field to 
track the First time the page is accessed.
But I digress... Espresso time!

I decided to start another discussion...
I am in the process of converting a project using Hiberate and 
Spring or Tapestry?

TIA,
Glenn

RE: Spring or Tapestry Framework

2004-07-07 Thread Ricardo Cortes
I'm not sure about Tapestry's integration with Hibernate but Spring provides a good 
amount of integration with Hibernate out of the box.  Plus, it's quite easy to get 
going with the examples they provide.

Check out these URLs to get your feet wet:

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-hibern/


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I'd like to thank both Robert and Jim for yesterdays help with my Request 
bean is lost.
After a small 30 Km bike ride I decided to go with the hidden field to 
track the First time the page is accessed.
But I digress... Espresso time!

I decided to start another discussion...
I am in the process of converting a project using Hiberate and 
Spring or Tapestry?

TIA,
Glenn


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RE: Spring or Tapestry Framework

2004-07-07 Thread Ricardo Cortes
Ooops.  One more link:

http://www.hibernate.org/110.html

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I'd like to thank both Robert and Jim for yesterdays help with my Request 
bean is lost.
After a small 30 Km bike ride I decided to go with the hidden field to 
track the First time the page is accessed.
But I digress... Espresso time!

I decided to start another discussion...
I am in the process of converting a project using Hiberate and 
Spring or Tapestry?

TIA,
Glenn


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RE: Spring or Tapestry Framework

2004-07-07 Thread Jim Barrows
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 I'd like to thank both Robert and Jim for yesterdays help 
 with my Request 
 bean is lost.
 After a small 30 Km bike ride I decided to go with the hidden 
 field to 
 track the First time the page is accessed.
 But I digress... Espresso time!
 
 I decided to start another discussion...
 I am in the process of converting a project using Hiberate and 
 Spring or Tapestry?

When looking at different products, especially in the Open Source world I look at 
what's going to be
easier to find information on when I have a production critical, time sensitive 
cluster happening.  Which, to answer your question would be Spring imntbhop.  I'm sure 
Tapestry is cool, and has really neat features... but in my corner of the 'net I hear 
more about Spring then I do Tapestry.  I know where to find information, get support 
and help better for Spring then I do Tapestry.  They'll both solve all the problems I 
need them to, but, Spring seems to have more mass in terms of third party support.

 
 TIA,
 Glenn
 

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RE: RE: Spring or Tapestry Framework

2004-07-07 Thread Robert Taylor
I got it (Expert one-on-one J2EE Design and Development) used on Amazon for
$8.50 including shipping. It arrived looking brand new.
He's got a new one coming out in November, Professional Java Development
with the Spring Framework.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764574833/qid=1089232097/sr=1
-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7637990-5760152?v=glances=books

robert
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  Also, I'm sure Rod's new book includes solutions that leverage Spring:
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/h9a6d8t7p6/ss/1?qs=EJB+without+J2EEGo.x=0Go.y=0
Go=Go

  BTW, BookPool has this book at 50% off, saving 7.19 over Amazons price.
That's just crazy.

  Dennis



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  I'm not sure about Tapestry's integration with Hibernate but Spring
provides a good amount of integration with Hibernate out of the box.  Plus,
it's quite easy to get going with the examples they provide.

  Check out these URLs to get your feet wet:

  http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-hibern/


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  I'd like to thank both Robert and Jim for yesterdays help with my Request
  bean is lost.
  After a small 30 Km bike ride I decided to go with the hidden field to
  track the First time the page is accessed.
  But I digress... Espresso time!

  I decided to start another discussion...
  I am in the process of converting a project using Hiberate and 
  Spring or Tapestry?

  TIA,
  Glenn


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Re: OT: RE: Spring or Tapestry Framework

2004-07-07 Thread Joe Germuska
At 4:19 PM -0400 7/7/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, I'm sure Rod's new book includes solutions that leverage 
Spring: 
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/h9a6d8t7p6/ss/1?qs=EJB+without+J2EEGo.x=0Go.y=0Go=Go

BTW, BookPool has this book at 50% off, saving 7.19 over Amazons 
price.  That's just crazy.
Especially because they're asking $10 more for the 2003 predecessor 
which is presumably obsoleted by this!

In case anyone is still asking the original question that spawned 
this thread, note that Tapestry is a more elaborate framework which 
probably is an alternative to Struts, not something you'd use with 
Struts.  At least, I've never heard of anyone doing that.

HiveMind is a piece of Tapestry which has been factored out and which 
more accurately peers to Spring -- although Spring has an MVC layer 
which peers to Tapestry and Struts.  Yes, confusing.  Still, I 
think at the level at which the original question targetted, a more 
accurate comparison would be between Spring and HiveMind.

I have no experience with HiveMind.  I've been pretty happy using 
Spring as a lightweight configuration management tool for wiring 
together beans at initialization time.

Joe
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