Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Walther Koehler 
Hi Robert

Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Robert Funnell:
> Walther -
>
> Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to
> find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as
> simple.)
Unfortunately, I am not used to emacs, although I know it is a very powerful 
editor.

Walther
>
> - Robert
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> >> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >> > in
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >> > simple way?
> >>
> >> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
> >> (.txt) Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text
> >> files.
> >
> > Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will
> > contain the hidden formated text.
> >
> > To make it very clear:
> > I do not care about the format information in the file.
> > I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
> > before shipping.
> >
> > Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is
> > capable of removing certain xml tags in a file like
> >
> > blabla
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Walther
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> > > From: Walther Koehler 
> >> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> >> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> >> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear LO users,
> >> > >
> >> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> >> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
> >> > > text
> >> >
> >> > in a
> >> >
> >> > > simple way?
> >> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> >> > >
> >> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the
> >> > > file without
> >> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you in advance
> >> > >
> >> > > Walther



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 


I tend to have NoteTab and Notepad++ installed on most of the Windows 
systems - Win7 through Win10.


Both works fine for me.  I used one or the other when I was hand coding 
web pages back in the WinXP days.  This was before I switched to Ubuntu

Linux.


On 05/03/2016 05:13 PM, Barry Smith wrote:

Notepad was still in Windows distributions the last time I was aware.
Windows 7 included it, and i think Windows 10 still includes Notepad.
If not, there is a free program named Notepad++ .

Another fairly independent way to distribute documents is by outputting to
PDF. Every platform that I know of supports PDF.

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, anne-ology > wrote:


Thanks for this information;
   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.

Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
list;
   I am not interested in changing.



From: Tim Deaton 
Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
formated text in odt)
To: anne-ology 


I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
deserved something for their excellent work.

You can find the free version here:
http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light

I think you'll really enjoy it.

-- Tim Deaton



On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think

you'll have a non-formatted document;
if so, then using a simple text document should do this.

 The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
all MsFt machines, but now not;
I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be

glad

to upload to you if you so wish.



From: Walther Koehler 
Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Dear LO users,

I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text

in a

simple way?
Is it possible by a macro?

(I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
without
hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)

Thank you in advance

Walther



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Barry Smith 
Notepad was still in Windows distributions the last time I was aware.
Windows 7 included it, and i think Windows 10 still includes Notepad.
If not, there is a free program named Notepad++ .

Another fairly independent way to distribute documents is by outputting to
PDF. Every platform that I know of supports PDF.

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, anne-ology > wrote:

>Thanks for this information;
>   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
>
>Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> list;
>   I am not interested in changing.
>
>
>
> From: Tim Deaton 
> Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> formated text in odt)
> To: anne-ology 
>
>
> I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
> years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
> for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
> features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
> deserved something for their excellent work.
>
> You can find the free version here:
> http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
>
> I think you'll really enjoy it.
>
> -- Tim Deaton
>
>
>
> On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>
> If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> >
> > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
> > all MsFt machines, but now not;
> >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> glad
> > to upload to you if you so wish.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Walther Koehler 
> > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > Dear LO users,
> >
> > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> in a
> > simple way?
> > Is it possible by a macro?
> >
> > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > without
> > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Walther
> >
> >
>
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Bruce Hohl 
Perhaps LO Find & Replace using Regular expressions would work.
Not an LO solution but SED can be useful for such tasks.
Can you post a sample of the file contents?

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Robert Funnell 
wrote:

> Walther -
>
> Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to find and
> remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as simple.)
>
> - Robert
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>> Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
>>
>>> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
>>> in
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>> > simple way?
>>>
>>> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
>>> (.txt)
>>> Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will
>> contain the hidden formated text.
>>
>> To make it very clear:
>> I do not care about the format information in the file.
>> I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
>> before shipping.
>>
>> Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is
>> capable of removing certain xml tags in a file like
>>
>> blabla
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Walther
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > > From: Walther Koehler 
>>> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
>>> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
>>> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Dear LO users,
>>> > >
>>> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
>>> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
>>> text
>>> >
>>> > in a
>>> >
>>> > > simple way?
>>> > > Is it possible by a macro?
>>> > >
>>> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the
>>> file
>>> > > without
>>> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
>>> > >
>>> > > Thank you in advance
>>> > >
>>> > > Walther
>>>
>>
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Robert Funnell 

Walther -

Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to 
find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as 
simple.)


- Robert

On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:


Hallo,
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:

> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in

a

> simple way?

File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.


Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will 
contain the hidden formated text.


To make it very clear:
I do not care about the format information in the file.
I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file before 
shipping.


Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is capable of 
removing certain xml tags in a file like


blabla

Regards

Walther

...


> > From: Walther Koehler 
> > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > Dear LO users,
> >
> > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
>
> in a
>
> > simple way?
> > Is it possible by a macro?
> >
> > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > without
> > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Walther


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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Walther Koehler 
Hallo,
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in
>
> a
>
> > simple way?
>
> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
> Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.

Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will 
contain the hidden formated text.

To make it very clear:
I do not care about the format information in the file.
I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file before 
shipping.

Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is capable of 
removing certain xml tags in a file like

blabla

Regards

Walther

>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:37 PM, anne-ology  wrote:
> >Thanks for this information;
> >   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
> >
> >Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> > list;
> >   I am not interested in changing.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tim Deaton 
> > Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> > formated text in odt)
> > To: anne-ology 
> >
> >
> > I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for
> > several years now as my text editor.  After using the free version
> > (NoteTab Light) for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still
> > don't use any features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the
> > authors deserved something for their excellent work.
> >
> > You can find the free version here:
> > http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
> >
> > I think you'll really enjoy it.
> >
> > -- Tim Deaton
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> > If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> >
> > > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> > >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> > >
> > > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed
> > > on all MsFt machines, but now not;
> > >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> >
> > glad
> >
> > > to upload to you if you so wish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Walther Koehler 
> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear LO users,
> > >
> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >
> > in a
> >
> > > simple way?
> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> > >
> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > > without
> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance
> > >
> > > Walther
> >
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[libreoffice-users] Re: [calc]password protection default on

2016-05-03 Thread Larry Evans 

On 05/03/2016 02:13 PM, Larry Evans wrote:

I'm on ubuntu 14.04LTS.
My libreoffice calc about shows:

   Version: 4.2.8.2

I opened a new calc file, put 100 in A1, then
tried to save it; however, it then asked for a password.
I don't remember changing anything that said, "for all
future calc documents, require a password".

How can I disable this password requirement.  I tried

   File>Property>Security

which had a [protect...] button, but when pressed,
it opened an dialog titled "Enter Password" with
two fields labelled "Password:" and "Confirm:".

How can a create a calc document with no password
is required?


OOPS.  When the save dialog appears, there's a
little checkbox in lower left hand corner:

  [x] Save with password


Sorry for noise, but it sure would help if this
checkbox were more obvious, say right next to
the filename and maybe blinking in yellow or red ;)





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[libreoffice-users] [calc]password protection default on

2016-05-03 Thread Larry Evans 

I'm on ubuntu 14.04LTS.
My libreoffice calc about shows:

  Version: 4.2.8.2

I opened a new calc file, put 100 in A1, then
tried to save it; however, it then asked for a password.
I don't remember changing anything that said, "for all
future calc documents, require a password".

How can I disable this password requirement.  I tried

  File>Property>Security

which had a [protect...] button, but when pressed,
it opened an dialog titled "Enter Password" with
two fields labelled "Password:" and "Confirm:".

How can a create a calc document with no password
is required?

TIA.

-regards,
Larry



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Bruce Hohl 
> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in
a
> simple way?
File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:37 PM, anne-ology  wrote:

>Thanks for this information;
>   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
>
>Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> list;
>   I am not interested in changing.
>
>
>
> From: Tim Deaton 
> Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> formated text in odt)
> To: anne-ology 
>
>
> I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
> years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
> for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
> features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
> deserved something for their excellent work.
>
> You can find the free version here:
> http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
>
> I think you'll really enjoy it.
>
> -- Tim Deaton
>
>
>
> On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>
> If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> >
> > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
> > all MsFt machines, but now not;
> >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> glad
> > to upload to you if you so wish.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Walther Koehler 
> > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > Dear LO users,
> >
> > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> in a
> > simple way?
> > Is it possible by a macro?
> >
> > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > without
> > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Walther
> >
> >
>
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread anne-ology 
   Thanks for this information;
  some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.

   Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
list;
  I am not interested in changing.



From: Tim Deaton 
Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
formated text in odt)
To: anne-ology 


I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
deserved something for their excellent work.

You can find the free version here:
http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light

I think you'll really enjoy it.

-- Tim Deaton



On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:

If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> you'll have a non-formatted document;
>if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
>
> The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
> all MsFt machines, but now not;
>I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be glad
> to upload to you if you so wish.
>
>
>
> From: Walther Koehler 
> Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> Dear LO users,
>
> I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in a
> simple way?
> Is it possible by a macro?
>
> (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> without
> hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Walther
>
>

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc Defect

2016-05-03 Thread V Stuart Foote 
@Russell,

That is the autocorrect support for emoji replacing the string with a single
Unicode emoji from the SMP--clock faces for 10, 11, and 12.  The string is
replaced with the single emoji,  but then does not show in the font in use.

Already reported  tdf#97191
  .  

Simple to workaround by removing or editing the autocorrect entry for :10:
:11: and :12: 

Found in the Tools -> Autocorrect -> AutoCorrect Options dialog on the
Replace tab.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Calc Defect

2016-05-03 Thread Russell 

How do I report a found flaw in the software. Here?

Try this:
Start a new LibreOffice Calc
select any cell and format it to time 876613:37:46 format code [HH]:MM:SS
now enter a time like 10:05:22 (this is 10hr 5min 22sec)
Above looks good, right!
Now enter 10:11:22 (10hr 11min 22sec)
What do you see? Problem?
If you have the same problem you will notice this happens from any time 
between

10:10:00 to 10:13:59

Funny, you can enter a time like 10:09:62 and 10:10:02 will display. But 
you can

not enter 10:10:02 directly.

I have come across other times that do the same, but didn't keep a record of
which ones. This happens across OS platforms and versions.

I first found this problem when I installed LibreOffice ver 5.1.0.3 x64 
on Windows.

I found the same problem on my Linux Mint 17.3 LibreOffice 5.0.3.2

I would like to start using LibreOffice but I have switched back to Open 
Office

because I need this time format to work.

Thank You
Russell England


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