Re: [389-users] console issues
On 12/15/2011 10:46 AM, Ellsworth, Josh wrote: I am working on deploying 389 in my organization but I'm having an issue with the Windows console. After I log in, the console looks like the screenshot here: http://imgur.com/W1hVd When I click on the Directory Server tree it changes to say this server component has not yet been downloaded, or it could not be activated. Press Download to retry. I need to be able to access the Directory Server properties, any idea why I can't? Check the admin server access logs on the server - /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/access - do you see the connection attempt from the Windows box? If so, what is the URL requested, and what is the response? You can also edit the windows console .bat file to add -D 9 -f console.log to the argument list after the Console class - run the console with that, edit console.log to remove/obscure any sensitive info, and send it to the list -- Joshua Ellsworth System Administrator, Primatics Financial Phone: 571.765.7528 jellswo...@primaticsfinancial.com -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] console issues
I used downloadonly for yum to get the 389 packages and reinstalled them. It didn’t overwrite files that were there but somehow none of the .jar files in /usr/share/dirsrv/html/java were present. From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:19 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Cc: Ellsworth, Josh Subject: Re: [389-users] console issues On 12/15/2011 03:17 PM, Ellsworth, Josh wrote: OK, I got it by installing a bunch of RPMs that put the .jar files in the right places. I don't understand - is the windows console now working for you? Exactly what rpms did you install? What jar files did you place in which right places? From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Ellsworth, Josh Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:07 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Subject: Re: [389-users] console issues Not sure if it helps, but when attempting to use the browser I now get errors like this in the console.log: ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor ClassLoader: javax/swing/ComboBoxEditor.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar ResourceSet:getString():Unable to resolve replication-supplier-cUnlimited-label ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet ClassLoader: netscape/ldap/LDAPAttributeSet.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-0 java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: setSelectedIndex: 3 out of bounds at javax.swing.JComboBox.setSelectedIndex(JComboBox.java:601) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.updateFieldsFromOriginalValues(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.init(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.BlankPanel.select(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.ContainerPanel.stateChanged(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.fireStateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:400) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane$ModelListener.stateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:253) at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.fireStateChanged(DefaultSingleSelectionModel.java:116) at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.setSelectedIndex(DefaultSingleSelectionModel.java:50) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndexImpl(JTabbedPane.java:599) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndex(JTabbedPane.java:574) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.insertTab(JTabbedPane.java:710) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.addTab(JTabbedPane.java:777) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.DSTabbedPanel.addTab(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationSettingPanel.init(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationResourceObject.getCustomPanel(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.management.client.ResourceModel.getCustomPanel(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.management.client.ResourcePage.valueChanged(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JTree.fireValueChanged(JTree.java:2820) at javax.swing.JTree$TreeSelectionRedirector.valueChanged(JTree.java:3191) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:629) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.notifyPathChange(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:1078) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPaths(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:287) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPath(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:170) at javax.swing.JTree.setSelectionPath(JTree.java:1598) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI.selectPathForEvent(BasicTreeUI.java:2311) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.handleSelection(BasicTreeUI.java:3520) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.mousePressed(BasicTreeUI.java:3459) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mousePressed(AWTEventMulticaster.java:262) at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6285) at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3267) at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:6053) at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2041) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4651) at
ld finds some libraries, but not others.
A build is failing with the error cannot find library for libraries that are, in fact present on the system. I made a very simple test bed, consisting of the empty file conftest.c, which I attempt to compile and link with various libraries. All the libraries are in /usr/lib64. Sometimes the compilation fails with undefined reference to `main' which is what I would expect, but often it fails with cannot find -lwhatever I have no idea what's happening. Can anyone explain? Here's an example of what's going on. This is a listing of some files in /usr/lib64: 1167 lib64 $ ll libICE.so* libgd.so* libkate.so* libkblog.so.* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Nov 9 18:28 libICE.so - libICE.so.6.3.0* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Nov 9 08:02 libICE.so.6 - libICE.so.6.3.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 98328 Jun 21 09:37 libICE.so.6.3.0* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Nov 9 08:14 libgd.so.2 - libgd.so.2.0.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 278048 Oct 26 20:15 libgd.so.2.0.0* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Nov 9 08:06 libkate.so.1 - libkate.so.1.2.1* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 75640 Mar 7 2011 libkate.so.1.2.1* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Nov 13 09:03 libkblog.so.4 - libkblog.so.4.7.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 312960 Nov 4 10:05 libkblog.so.4.7.0* And here's a attempt to compile the dummy linking to them: 1033 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lICE /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/../../../../lib64/crt1.o: In function `_start': (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 1034 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lgd /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgd collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 1035 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lkate /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkate collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 1036 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lkblog /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/../../../../lib64/crt1.o: In function `_start': (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: intel graphic card boot error
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Germán A. Racca german.ra...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2011 08:46 PM, Shibi wrote: Hi list I use a script to switch between my graphic cards on startup and shutdown. there are a atu Radeon HD 5650 and an intel integrated card, because of heating problems that made my gpu fan stuck, i always switch off that radeon card on start up, but due to some problems that other people reports about highspeed fan in boot time, i always use the script to bring the radeon card back on when i shot down my laptop. i don't know what i explained above is relevant but every time i boot up again after power off the system with the script i get this error in my screen: [drm:ironlake_update_pch_refclk] *ERROR* enabling SSC on PCH if i don't use script to shut down, I get a clean boot up. what does it mean? some serious problem exists when i boot up to my windows box with intel card (it shows BDOS after two or tree minutes) that makes it almost impossible to run windows on battery power for me because it automatically uses intel graphic card and eventually get to BDOS state. is it a hardware problem or just a driver fault? (I like to mention that my Radeon GPU fan doesn't work at all but with radeon card being off i don't have any heating problems) Shibi: I can't answer your question, and even don't know what it means, but I have a Dell Vostro 3500 with an Intel card and when using the battery I also get this error message when the system comes back from suspending ... just to say that you are not alone :) Germán. finally new update to kernel-3.1.5 blows everything up. when i boot with new kernel it claims about radeon dri and tainting plymouth, it can run xorg (cursor appears) but it cann't load GDM at all. disabling kms with radeon.modeset=0 in grub can solve the problem but makes vgaswitheroo disapear, that is a great requirement for me because of heating, battery drain and fan malfunction. -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Shahab Shahsavari Alavidjeh - شهاب شهسواری علویجه ـ Weblog: http://piamak.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzgraph -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ld finds some libraries, but not others.
On 12/15/2011 09:06 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: A build is failing with the error cannot findlibrary for libraries that are, in fact present on the system. I made a very simple test bed, consisting of the empty file conftest.c, which I attempt to compile and link with various libraries. All the libraries are in /usr/lib64. Sometimes the compilation fails with undefined reference to `main' which is what I would expect, but often it fails with cannot find -lwhatever I have no idea what's happening. Can anyone explain? You likely don't have the *-devel packages installed, which correspond to the libraries you want to link against. Here's an example of what's going on. This is a listing of some files in /usr/lib64: ... lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Nov 9 08:14 libgd.so.2 - libgd.so.2.0.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 278048 Oct 26 20:15 libgd.so.2.0.0* ... These are the run-time libraries ... And here's a attempt to compile the dummy linking to them: ... 1034 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lgd /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgd collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Here, ld is looking for libgd.so. = You want to install the package which provides /usr/lib64/libgd.so # repoquery -qf /usr/lib64/libgd.so gd-devel-0:2.0.35-13.fc16.x86_64 Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
ld finds some libraries, but not others (REVISED)
A build is failing with the error cannot find library for libraries that are, in fact present on the system. I made a very simple test bed, consisting of the empty file conftest.c, which I attempt to compile and link with various libraries. All the libraries are in /usr/lib64. Sometimes the compilation fails with undefined reference to `main' which is what I would expect, but often it fails with cannot find -lwhatever I have no idea what's happening. Can anyone explain? Here's an example of what's going on. This is a listing of some files in /usr/lib64: $ ll libICE.so* libgd.so* libkate.so* libkblog.so.* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Nov 9 18:28 libICE.so - libICE.so.6.3.0* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Nov 9 08:02 libICE.so.6 - libICE.so.6.3.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 98328 Jun 21 09:37 libICE.so.6.3.0* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Nov 9 08:14 libgd.so.2 - libgd.so.2.0.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 278048 Oct 26 20:15 libgd.so.2.0.0* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Nov 9 08:06 libkate.so.1 - libkate.so.1.2.1* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 75640 Mar 7 2011 libkate.so.1.2.1* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Nov 13 09:03 libkblog.so.4 - libkblog.so.4.7.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 312960 Nov 4 10:05 libkblog.so.4.7.0* And here's a attempt to compile the dummy linking to them: $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lICE /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/../../../../lib64/crt1.o: In function `_start': (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 1034 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lgd /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgd collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 1035 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lkate /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkate collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 1036 wview-5.19.0 $ gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lkblog /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/../../../../lib64/crt1.o: In function `_start': (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status System information: Fedora-16 with all updates running on 4 cpu x86_64 hardware $ gcc -v Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/lto-wrapper Target: x86_64-redhat-linux Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-bugurl=http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-bootstrap --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,obj-c++,java,fortran,ada,go,lto --enable-plugin --enable-java-awt=gtk --disable-dssi --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0/jre --enable-libgcj-multifile --enable-java-maintainer-mode --with-ecj-jar=/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar --disable-libjava-multilib --with-ppl --with-cloog --with-tune=generic --with-arch_32=i686 --build=x86_64-redhat-linux Thread model: posix gcc version 4.6.2 20111027 (Red Hat 4.6.2-1) (GCC) $ ld -v GNU ld version 2.21.53.0.1-2.fc16 20110716 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: md/raid1 fails to detect on boot
Sam Varshavchik píše v St 14. 12. 2011 v 18:41 -0500: j...@bubble.org writes: False raid detection is often caused by wrong partition type. It suppose to be fd Linux raid autodetect What do you have? fdisk -l /dev/sda or fdisk -l /dev/sdb Pavel -- Pavel Lisy p...@tmapy.cz T-MAPY spol. s r.o. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd: wait for shutdown-service to complete
Am 15.12.2011 08:49, schrieb T.C. Hollingsworth: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: it seems that this even does not work with the timeout 100% normally i would expect that this service is stopped before vmware.service which is a sysvinit, but after some tests i had still VMs which started the next time with fscheck while doing this manually and after that reboot there is no problem seems like there is some paralleizm at shutdown which is very very bad - stopping vmware.service kills all running machines since the included suspend worked only with = F14 Services are supposed to be shutdown in the reverse order of their Before/After dependencies that was my idea for this fake-service so this sounds like a bug in SysV compat to me. sounds reasonable At any rate, you should be able to work around this by setting in [Service] SysVStartPriority=90 (or any value higher than vmware's start priority) thanks, i will give it a try and feedback ASAP currently RAID-check is running :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ld finds some libraries, but not others (REVISED)
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:31:26 -0800, JR (Jonathan) wrote: A build is failing with the error cannot find library for libraries that are, in fact present on the system. They aren't. The test bed is invalid. Linker option -lwhatever needs expects to find a libwhatever.so file or symlink. Those are provided by the respective -devel packages. lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Nov 9 18:28 libICE.so - libICE.so.6.3.0* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 15 Nov 9 08:02 libICE.so.6 - libICE.so.6.3.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 98328 Jun 21 09:37 libICE.so.6.3.0* Here, libICE.so is present. lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Nov 9 08:14 libgd.so.2 - libgd.so.2.0.0* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 278048 Oct 26 20:15 libgd.so.2.0.0* Here, libgd.so is not present. /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgd -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f12 user home dir size limited!?
hi just installed F12 on a pc with 60GB hdd. but when i click on the users home directory, it says only 1.7 gb available. i dont see anythign about a quota nor do i recall having selected antyhing like that during install what is my mistake? thx -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f12 user home dir size limited!?
Am 15.12.2011 11:17, schrieb tom: just installed F12 on a pc with 60GB hdd. but when i click on the users home directory, it says only 1.7 gb available. i dont see anythign about a quota nor do i recall having selected antyhing like that during install what is my mistake? please provide the output of df -hT why installing F12 these days? even F14 is end of life now! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome-Shell
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: It should certainly be working in FC15 even for most Intel configs, and in FC16 it works on a Radeon HD2450 although it's got a few small bugs now and then. FC15 is working here fine without any errors. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f12 user home dir size limited!?
[goldie@acertm ~]$ df -hT Dateisystem Typ Size Used Avail Use% Eingehängt auf /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_root ext4 47G 2,4G 44G 6% / tmpfstmpfs999M 1,1M 998M 1% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 ext4485M 30M 430M 7% /boot /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_home ext44,5G 2,5G 1,8G 60% /home needed something 'light', and i didnt like the lubuntu wiki. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:17, schrieb tom: just installed F12 on a pc with 60GB hdd. but when i click on the users home directory, it says only 1.7 gb available. i dont see anythign about a quota nor do i recall having selected antyhing like that during install what is my mistake? please provide the output of df -hT why installing F12 these days? even F14 is end of life now! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f12 user home dir size limited!?
well, i didnt specify any size limitations during installation. so how do i change that now? thx On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: well, you have a 47 GB big systemroot and a 4.5 GB /home - bad idea! Am 15.12.2011 11:55, schrieb tom: [goldie@acertm ~]$ df -hT Dateisystem Typ Size Used Avail Use% Eingehängt auf /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_root ext4 47G 2,4G 44G 6% / tmpfstmpfs999M 1,1M 998M 1% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 ext4485M 30M 430M 7% /boot /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_home ext44,5G 2,5G 1,8G 60% /home needed something 'light', and i didnt like the lubuntu wiki. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netmailto: h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:17, schrieb tom: just installed F12 on a pc with 60GB hdd. but when i click on the users home directory, it says only 1.7 gb available. i dont see anythign about a quota nor do i recall having selected antyhing like that during install what is my mistake? please provide the output of df -hT why installing F12 these days? even F14 is end of life now! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofmühlgasse 17 CTO / software-development / cms-solutions p: +43 (1) 595 3999 33, m: +43 (676) 40 221 40 icq: 154546673, http://www.thelounge.net/ http://www.thelounge.net/signature.asc.what.htm -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome-Shell
Regarding Alans comment about gnome-shell falling back on 2048 pixel wide displays, I had the same thing with gnome-shell on an nvidia card using the nouveau drivers. So, I guess this might not be specific to i9xx displays. In my case, one symptom was that these errors appeared in Xorg.0.log --- (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable --- even though the card is DRI capable. I believe this blog entry has the reason: https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/10/no-dri-on-x-org-with-a-radeon-check-your-virtual-size/ Quoting from that page: Because of various technical reasons, when the Virtual size is too big (which, evidently, 2048×2048 is), DRI gets disabled I started seeing this error after I upgraded to a new nvidia card with more memory. After the upgrade my default Virtual size went to about 8000x8000 and gnome-shell would only run in fallback mode. Strangely, the problem went away when I switched to the closed source nvidia drivers, and gnome-shell works great. Andy On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: gnome-shell itself doesn't care, it just uses x.org. If x.org runs, and gives 3D capability, that's all that gnome-shell cares about. Actually it does seem to care in a few cases. On FC15 it would unilaterally decide to do fallback on 2048 pixel wide Intel i9xx displays. I assume this was because the X driver had some 3D bugs in that case. So it's a bit smarter rule and policy wise than you give it credit for. It should certainly be working in FC15 even for most Intel configs, and in FC16 it works on a Radeon HD2450 although it's got a few small bugs now and then. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f12 user home dir size limited!?
no idea, especially with both in LVM, that is why ok, ok, ok, take defaults is always a bad idea and customized layout exists one of the most important decisions before install any os is the partition-layout Am 15.12.2011 12:03, schrieb tom: well, i didnt specify any size limitations during installation. so how do i change that now? thx On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: well, you have a 47 GB big systemroot and a 4.5 GB /home - bad idea! Am 15.12.2011 11:55, schrieb tom: [goldie@acertm ~]$ df -hT Dateisystem Typ Size Used Avail Use% Eingehängt auf /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_root ext4 47G 2,4G 44G 6% / tmpfstmpfs999M 1,1M 998M 1% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 ext4485M 30M 430M 7% /boot /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_home ext44,5G 2,5G 1,8G 60% /home needed something 'light', and i didnt like the lubuntu wiki. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.12.2011 11:17, schrieb tom: just installed F12 on a pc with 60GB hdd. but when i click on the users home directory, it says only 1.7 gb available. i dont see anythign about a quota nor do i recall having selected antyhing like that during install what is my mistake? please provide the output of df -hT why installing F12 these days? even F14 is end of life now! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofmühlgasse 17 CTO / software-development / cms-solutions p: +43 (1) 595 3999 33 tel:%2B43%20%281%29%20595%203999%2033, m: +43 (676) 40 221 40 tel:%2B43%20%28676%29%2040%20221%2040 icq: 154546673, http://www.thelounge.net/ http://www.thelounge.net/signature.asc.what.htm -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofmühlgasse 17 CTO / software-development / cms-solutions p: +43 (1) 595 3999 33, m: +43 (676) 40 221 40 icq: 154546673, http://www.thelounge.net/ http://www.thelounge.net/signature.asc.what.htm signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f12 user home dir size limited!?
well, i didnt specify any size limitations during installation. so how do i change that now? thx Well, if it is a new system, it could be easy to copy all your home data to a usb pendrive or hard drive, and reinstall, also think about installing a new version F15 or F16. If you have too much data or configuration, there are tools to resize partitions, but you should backup your data first, because it could fail and you can lost all your data. Emilio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: md/raid1 fails to detect on boot
Pavel Lisy writes: Sam Varshavchik píše v St 14. 12. 2011 v 18:41 -0500: j...@bubble.org writes: False raid detection is often caused by wrong partition type. It suppose to be fd Linux raid autodetect What do you have? fdisk -l /dev/sda or fdisk -l /dev/sdb What it should be. My partition types are correct. pgpEdSDUWiF8m.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Learning Linux offline material: RUTE tuts expired
Hi g and LinuxIsOne and whoever else is feeling like chiming in, It would be nice if you could refrain from this line of discussion. Lets keep to Fedora related discussions. In other words, I am requesting people to stop responding to this thread. Thanks, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 14/12/11 23:13, Linda McLeod wrote: Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but... Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error? From: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. What evidence do you have that strangers have targeted your machine and repeatedly trashed it? The evidence is in this 5-inch stake of evidence, and in this box beside the tower.. which proves that they destroyed a lot of my property, and proves that psychotic-humans destroyed their greatest scientist yet... What have you done to make your computer either an easier or harder target? Everything I could understand, in the many Linux forums... Okay.. Let's talk security :-). Right so before I get started I would like to say: If you are serious about making your machine secure, you will have to learn a thing or two about security. Reason being: a machine is only as secure as you make it. (Regardless of OS) In this mail I will try to give you some basic security tips which should get you a bit more secure than you appear to be now. From my own personal experience. You claim to have people targeting you.. and considering what you say and claim it wouldn't surprise me. But anyhow, that's not what I am here to discuss :-). So, first things first. If your machine has recently been targeted and trashed, reinstall the OS. Chances are, if they got in once, they probably left them selves a nice easy backdoor (rootkit even). The safest and quickest way to remove one of these on a home computer is to just wipe the OS (They can be removed manually, but that takes a bit more skill..) - Install the very latest version of Fedora (16), (if using Fedora, I'm assuming you are as your on a Fedora list) Ensure when setting up your system you do not use the same password twice, or the same password you use anywhere else. Each password should be unique and should consist of Upper and Lower case letters, Numbers and Symbols (For example: MyPa55W0rd20122011). Once you've got your new shiny OS installed, immediately run yum update as root. Make sure all packages are downloaded and installed. The Next step is to find out exactly what you will and won't be using. Obviously, you will need a GUI if this is a home computer so use yum to install a desktop environment such as GNOME or XFCE or KDE etc, depending on your preferences. Personally I prefer XFCE. Remove all software which you do not use at all. (You may want to research things before removing them) Now you should set up your firewall (through a GUI if you prefer) ensure you have no open ports which you do not use. So in Fedora's case open up system-config-firewall. The first screen you will see probably has a load of checkboxes next to various service names. You will probably want to untick if unused the following: - SSH (I will explain later how to make one of these a bit more secure.) - FTP - HTTP and any others of which you do not recognise. Switch to Other Ports ensure this is blank and empty, or if needed open any ports not listed on previous page which you _NEED_. Go to trusted interfaces. Also mostly should pretty much be all unticked unless otherwise required. Switch to ICMP Filter, and tick the following: - Echo Reply Now click apply (You'll be amazed how many people forget to click apply and just close the firewall settings..) Okay cool, so that's your firewall sorted (For now) Let's move onto securing services, and disabling one's you do not use. For example, you said you have no idea what SSH is, if I remember correctly this is enabled by default. If you do not use it disable it: systemctl disable sshd.service Do the same for other unused services (Be very careful with this though...) Just as a safecheck ensure you do have your firewall enabled: systemctl enable iptables.service and systemctl enable ip6tables.service Now lets talk system logs. System logs are a great way to detect odd behaviour on your machine. Most machines report these by default with logwatch so no setup necessary though a quick yum install logwatch wouldn't hurt to be sure it's actually installed. These logs are mailed to the root user (in my case..) at 3am. And generally speaking while this is a safe place for them to go, it's not the best of choices to be logging in as root in any case other than to do administrative tasks. So what do you do? Simple! you get them forwarded to your normal user account. To do this: nano /etc/aliases Go right to the bottom and find/add: # Person who should get root's mail root: YourUsername Press Ctrl + X to exit and save. This change won't take affect until you run the following command: newaliases Cool! Now your user account will begin receiving all of roots mail.. But your probably wondering Okay, so how do I read it? There's two ways to do this. 1) Use mail command 2) Setup dovecot and use a
Re: Big email mess ! How do I clean it up ? (Evolution, Thunderbird, maildir, mbox)
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 23:56 -0700, linux guy wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Scott Doty sc...@ponzo.net wrote: And if that doesn't work, you could just use mutt -- it will read the maildirs and can save them as mboxes. :) Where does the new evolution keep them ? The default for local mail is maildirs. It used to be mboxes. You don't say what version of Evolution you're using. Earlier versions had some maildir support but it may have been buggy. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
I have been mostly just reading this forum, but I decided it is time to comment on this thread. To Craig, I agree. Courtesy and respect would go a long way in making this forum more attractive to new attendees. I find myself afraid to post questions because of some of the snide responses. To Jake, Wow, excellent advice, which I plan on taking myself since I am about to abandon Suse for fedora, the reason I have been reading this forum. Thank you for such clear and well thought out instruction. To Linda, good luck in securing your system. I looks like you got some good advice. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Jake Shipton jak...@fedoraproject.orgwrote: On 14/12/11 23:13, Linda McLeod wrote: Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but... Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error? From: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. What evidence do you have that strangers have targeted your machine and repeatedly trashed it? The evidence is in this 5-inch stake of evidence, and in this box beside the tower.. which proves that they destroyed a lot of my property, and proves that psychotic-humans destroyed their greatest scientist yet... What have you done to make your computer either an easier or harder target? Everything I could understand, in the many Linux forums... Okay.. Let's talk security :-). Right so before I get started I would like to say: If you are serious about making your machine secure, you will have to learn a thing or two about security. Reason being: a machine is only as secure as you make it. (Regardless of OS) In this mail I will try to give you some basic security tips which should get you a bit more secure than you appear to be now. From my own personal experience. You claim to have people targeting you.. and considering what you say and claim it wouldn't surprise me. But anyhow, that's not what I am here to discuss :-). So, first things first. If your machine has recently been targeted and trashed, reinstall the OS. Chances are, if they got in once, they probably left them selves a nice easy backdoor (rootkit even). The safest and quickest way to remove one of these on a home computer is to just wipe the OS (They can be removed manually, but that takes a bit more skill..) - Install the very latest version of Fedora (16), (if using Fedora, I'm assuming you are as your on a Fedora list) Ensure when setting up your system you do not use the same password twice, or the same password you use anywhere else. Each password should be unique and should consist of Upper and Lower case letters, Numbers and Symbols (For example: MyPa55W0rd20122011). Once you've got your new shiny OS installed, immediately run yum update as root. Make sure all packages are downloaded and installed. The Next step is to find out exactly what you will and won't be using. Obviously, you will need a GUI if this is a home computer so use yum to install a desktop environment such as GNOME or XFCE or KDE etc, depending on your preferences. Personally I prefer XFCE. Remove all software which you do not use at all. (You may want to research things before removing them) Now you should set up your firewall (through a GUI if you prefer) ensure you have no open ports which you do not use. So in Fedora's case open up system-config-firewall. The first screen you will see probably has a load of checkboxes next to various service names. You will probably want to untick if unused the following: - SSH (I will explain later how to make one of these a bit more secure.) - FTP - HTTP and any others of which you do not recognise. Switch to Other Ports ensure this is blank and empty, or if needed open any ports not listed on previous page which you _NEED_. Go to trusted interfaces. Also mostly should pretty much be all unticked unless otherwise required. Switch to ICMP Filter, and tick the following: - Echo Reply Now click apply (You'll be amazed how many people forget to click apply and just close the firewall settings..) Okay cool, so that's your firewall sorted (For now) Let's move onto securing services, and disabling one's you do not use. For example, you said you have no idea what SSH is, if I remember correctly this is enabled by default. If you do not use it disable it: systemctl disable sshd.service Do the same for other unused services (Be very careful with this though...) Just as a safecheck ensure you do have your firewall enabled: systemctl enable iptables.service and systemctl enable ip6tables.service Now lets talk system logs. System logs are a great way to detect odd behaviour on your machine. Most machines report these by default with logwatch so no setup necessary though a quick yum install logwatch wouldn't hurt to be sure it's actually installed. These logs are mailed
Re: Big email mess ! How do I clean it up ? (Evolution, Thunderbird, maildir, mbox)
On 12/15/2011 08:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 23:56 -0700, linux guy wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Scott Doty sc...@ponzo.net wrote: And if that doesn't work, you could just use mutt -- it will read the maildirs and can save them as mboxes. :) Where does the new evolution keep them ? The default for local mail is maildirs. It used to be mboxes. You don't say what version of Evolution you're using. Earlier versions had some maildir support but it may have been buggy. One suggestion - never ever use local storage with any mail client. I recommend setting up a local imap server (dovecot works well) and use that for -all- local storage for your mail. This is a really easy thing to do. Once you do that, then you are now mail client independent - and can switch clients without any issues about how mail is stored. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16's Performance
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 21:31 -0500, Alan Stern wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/15/2011 10:02 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/14/2011 05:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: If I recall correctly, you had another incident of getting multiple copies for another individual. Are you by any chance sorting incoming emails into folders using rules? No. With the exception of spam, everything goes into the Inbox and is read in the order received. The headers of the message claimed that it was sent to this list, and the list was also listed in the CC line, prompting my reply as it looked intentional. OK Well, I would still wonder why you are getting 2 copies and I am getting only one. If it was a sender issue then I would expect everyone on this list to be getting 2 copies. I am generally against using the list as a test bed but I've added Fedora into the Cc: I will verify that only a single message goes out from my mail server (I fully control my mail server) and I will verify that I only get one copy of this message back from the list. Maybe you can then verify how many copies of this email you are getting? Mail clients differ. It's quite possible that yours would filter out duplicate addresses and somebody else's would not. (It's also possible that the list server would filter duplicates.) As another test, I'm also putting the Fedora list into both the To: and CC: lines of this message. Alan Stern And I received 2 copies of your message. -- === Mary Tyler Moore's SEVENTH HUSBAND is wearing my DACRON TANK TOP in a cheap hotel in HONOLULU! === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16's Performance
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: [ 63.506] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on Quadro FX 2500M at PCI:1:0:0 [ 63.506] (--) NVIDIA(0): none [ 63.506] (EE) NVIDIA(0): No display devices found for this X screen. This is definitely an issue with Nvidia's binary blob. It doesn't think you have a monitor! Try adding this line to Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-nvidia.conf: Option ConnectedMonitor CRT That will trick the driver into thinking you have an older monitor it can't detect and bypass detection. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome-Shell
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 22:19 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Dave Quigley writes: Is there a list anywhere of supported hardware for gnome-shell? I've tried It's the same as the list of supported 3D hardware for x.org, on http://mesa.freedesktop.org, which seems to be down right now. In addition to that, you also have the additional option of gaining 3D by installing your hardware vendor's binary blob. If it works with x.org, great. If not, you're on your own. I will bite, what is a binary blob? -- === OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f12 user home dir size limited!?
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:03 AM, tom tomabr...@gmail.com wrote: well, i didnt specify any size limitations during installation. so how do i change that now? First, you need to shrink your root (/) volume. This will shrink it to 10GB, but you can change that if you'd like, just change the 10G: lvresize -rL 10G /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_root Then, you can grow your home (/home) volume much in the same way: lvresize -rL 40G /dev/mapper/vg_acertm-lv_home Remember, hard drive operations can eat babies, so do have backups. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
I will provide a disclaimer up front that I work in the security field, but I design security protocols (e.g. co-chaired IPsec, author of HIP, contributor to 802.11i) and OS security I learn from osmosis from my colleagues. On 12/15/2011 08:08 AM, Jake Shipton wrote: On 14/12/11 23:13, Linda McLeod wrote: Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but... Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error? From: Joe Zeffj...@zeff.us To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. What evidence do you have that strangers have targeted your machine and repeatedly trashed it? The evidence is in this 5-inch stake of evidence, and in this box beside the tower.. which proves that they destroyed a lot of my property, and proves that psychotic-humans destroyed their greatest scientist yet... What have you done to make your computer either an easier or harder target? Everything I could understand, in the many Linux forums... Okay.. Let's talk security :-). Right so before I get started I would like to say: If you are serious about making your machine secure, you will have to learn a thing or two about security. Reason being: a machine is only as secure as you make it. (Regardless of OS) In this mail I will try to give you some basic security tips which should get you a bit more secure than you appear to be now. From my own personal experience. You claim to have people targeting you.. and considering what you say and claim it wouldn't surprise me. But anyhow, that's not what I am here to discuss :-). So, first things first. If your machine has recently been targeted and trashed, reinstall the OS. Chances are, if they got in once, they probably left them selves a nice easy backdoor (rootkit even). The safest and quickest way to remove one of these on a home computer is to just wipe the OS (They can be removed manually, but that takes a bit more skill..) - Install the very latest version of Fedora (16), (if using Fedora, I'm assuming you are as your on a Fedora list) If you are truly paranoid, you will NOT have your computer connected to the network during the install from a DVD. Then further, from a trusted computer (hey, how do you bootstrap this :) ), you build a local repo of the fedora updates so you don't need to be exposed to internet access during the 'yum update' process. This second step might be hard. Linux install is NOT as bad as say XP install where you can get owned DURING the install if you are connected (I have see lab tests where 2 min into the XP install the system was owned). Ensure when setting up your system you do not use the same password twice, or the same password you use anywhere else. Each password should be unique and should consist of Upper and Lower case letters, Numbers and Symbols (For example: MyPa55W0rd20122011). I am quite contrary on passwords and password strengths. Also changing GOOD passwords. For a semi comical look at the password problem see: http://xkcd.com/936/ For a good analysis of the problem with passwords see: http://www.cryptosmith.com/password-sanity Richard has a very good book on Authentication that I once taught a class from... That said, a string of words can be easy to type in and easy to remember. However, there are programs out there like VNC that ONLY use the first 8 characters in the password and ignore the rest! Once you've got your new shiny OS installed, immediately run yum update as root. Make sure all packages are downloaded and installed. The Next step is to find out exactly what you will and won't be using. Obviously, you will need a GUI if this is a home computer so use yum to install a desktop environment such as GNOME or XFCE or KDE etc, depending on your preferences. Personally I prefer XFCE. Remove all software which you do not use at all. (You may want to research things before removing them) Now before this firewall discussion, are you behind a firewall now? If you are like me, you have a local firewall that you can trust, but at times you are out in the public, exposed to all sorts of attacks. First configure your local firewall so that all inbound ports are closed and only open those that you have evidence that you need (what local servers ARE you running? Are you using VoIP?). Security is all about belts and suspendors (multiple layers of protection). Now you should set up your firewall (through a GUI if you prefer) ensure you have no open ports which you do not use. So in Fedora's case open up system-config-firewall. The first screen you will see probably has a load of checkboxes next to various service names. You will probably want to untick if unused the following: - SSH (I will explain later how to make one of these a bit more secure.) - FTP - HTTP and any others of which you do not recognise. Switch to Other Ports ensure this is blank and empty, or if needed open any ports not listed on
Re: Big email mess ! How do I clean it up ? (Evolution, Thunderbird, maildir, mbox)
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 08:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 23:56 -0700, linux guy wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Scott Doty sc...@ponzo.net wrote: And if that doesn't work, you could just use mutt -- it will read the maildirs and can save them as mboxes. :) Where does the new evolution keep them ? The default for local mail is maildirs. It used to be mboxes. You don't say what version of Evolution you're using. Earlier versions had some maildir support but it may have been buggy. poc As far as I can see all local evolution stuff is kept currently in the directory: .local/share/evolution/mail/local_mbox in ones home directory but it is not in clear text as far as I can find. -- === Only through hard work and perseverance can one truly suffer. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
2 Thunderbird problems. Filters and S-L-O-W downloading.
Yesterday I migrated my email activities from Evolution to Thunderbird after my Evolution setup had been non operational for 4 months. Painful. Fortunately, I use gmail as my mail server, so I accessed my several email accounts via a web browser. Painful, but it worked. Thunderbird is working OK, but I have 2 issues. 1. It is taking forever to download the emails from one of my gmail accounts. When I Get Mail on that account, it comes back saying a handful (8 to 20) emails are ready to download, downloads them and then stops. If you check again, it gets another handful and stops. And again and again. I have several thousand emails to download from that account. Why Thunderbird getting 200 emails at a time ? Is this a gmail problem or a Thunderbird problem ? 2. I sort all my emails into local folders using filters. I have created a half dozen filters, just like I would in Evolution, but they don't seem to run. When I go Tools- Message Filters- Run Now, nothing happens. I have FiltaQuilla installed. Any and all help on these issues will be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Fedora good for Java developers?
On 12/14/2011 07:47 PM, Rich Boyce wrote: On 14/12/11 10:37, Caffeine Lee wrote: Thank you guys, I have the feeling that Fedora is like a tech preview and for Fedora developers rather than a platform for something serious. That's precisely what Fedora is. That doesn't mean its not fairly robust, but it is a far cry from RHEL and derivatives. Maybe I will try Scientific Linux 6.2 (when released) and Debian testing and see what's good for me. I've heard good things about Scientific Linux, as opposed to CentOS, though the CentOS devs seem to be getting it together again recently. The CentOS community is its biggest drawback, not its dev community. As far as SL goes, the upgrade path is all rolling-release within a major version, so there is no practical advantage in waiting for 6.1 vs 6.2, as moving to 6.2 involves a yum update and maybe a yum upgrade if you have some unique things going on in your system. Regardless, SL is a great dev platform and it has the enormous benefit that anything you write that works well on it can be effortlessly deployed/sold to people running RHEL. Of course, this discussion of platform sort of glosses over the general unsuitability of Java for ${*\ }purpose. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
Jake Shipton wrote: [snip] Some of your advice is good, but some of it is not. Even though your reply was to a known troll of this list, I'd like to respond to some of your comments. Ensure when setting up your system you do not use the same password twice, or the same password you use anywhere else. Each password should be unique and should consist of Upper and Lower case letters, Numbers and Symbols (For example: MyPa55W0rd20122011). The password this-is-fun is just as secure as your example. http://vivekgirotra.com/why-the-password-this-is-fun-is-10-times-more [snip] Now you should set up your firewall [snip] Switch to ICMP Filter, and tick the following: - Echo Reply Disabling ping on a workstation that is guaranteed to be behind a router is pointless. Even if the workstation was directly connected to the internet disabling ping is pointless. It will only make future troubleshooting of network issues more difficult. Your internet presence is not hidden by disabling ping. [snip] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help! Gnome-Shell segfault.
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 14:11 +, Rich Boyce wrote: On 14/12/11 12:54, Arthur Dent wrote: On 14/12/11 09:18, Arthur Dent wrote: Hello all, Urgent help required! I have turned on my Fedora 16 machine today. It booted quite normally to the GDM login screen. When I selected one of my 3 users it started to login to the account as usual, but got no further than loading the background. I CTRL-ALT-BKSPC'd back to the login screen and tried each of the other accounts. Same problem. I can start a terminal session with CTRL-ALT-F2 and login to any user account in that terminal - and it is from there that I am sending this (using Mutt). I have tried googling using a text based browser, (but that is quite hard work) and all I have come up with is this bugzilla https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753666 which describes my symptoms perfectly (I am also using the nvidia akmod driver) but there is no resolution for me in that bugzilla. Unlike that report I have updated nothing since Sunday (11 December) and it worked fine yesterday (12 December). Here is an extract from dmesg: [ 39.204161] gnome-shell[1458]: segfault at bc955315 ip 42325db4 sp bfadd520 error 6 in ld-2.14.90.so[42319000+21000] Below I list a (long) extract form /var/log/messages. There is some very fishy looking stuff in that, but I have no idea how to fix it. Please help me to get back to a working gnome-shell! Thanks Mark I don't wish to appear desperate - but... ...I am desperate! Any ideas? It's a bit of a shot in the dark, but you could try removing the proprietary nvidia drivers, and rebooting. It would be something like yum erase \*kmod\*nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia\* That would probably get you back to the nouveau drivers. If that doesn't work, there might be a hint in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log Rich Well thanks for that. I was actually thinking about removing the nvidia driver. As it happens, I gave up on the machine for the moment and went to work. I therefore no longer have physical access to the machine. I can, however ssh into it. While I was wondering about removing or re-installing the nvidia driver I noticed that there is a new kernel available in yum (3.1.5-1.fc16.i686.PAE) so I did a yum update. This will of course cause the akmod module to rebuild the driver. I have rebooted, and the encouraging thing is that dmesg now has no reference to a gnome-shell segfault! Well that's very encouraging! Unfortunately I will not be home again until Thursday evening so I can't actually try to log in to gnome-shell to see if it has worked (are there any command line tricks to test if gnome-shell is working?). Hmm. You could run 'ps fax' and look for a gnome-shell process, or a gdm process (I'm not sure what the login manager shows up as). If you see it there, that shows that it's running. Well I got home today earlier than expected. That's the good news. The bad news is that, when I turned on the machine, another segfault is reported in dmesg and I am still locked out of gnome-shell. S... I uninstalled the nvidia driver and reverted back to the nouveau one. Now I am typing this to you from Evolution using gnome 3. In other words I am back in. To tell you the truth I have not noticed any real difference between the nvidia and the nouveau drivers. I guess I should just stay with nouveau. Is there anything I should be aware of while using nouveau instead of the proprietary nvidia driver? Is it worth persisting with nvidia? Thanks for all the help... Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help! Gnome-Shell segfault.
On 15/12/11 16:08, Arthur Dent wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 14:11 +, Rich Boyce wrote: On 14/12/11 12:54, Arthur Dent wrote: On 14/12/11 09:18, Arthur Dent wrote: Hello all, Urgent help required! I have turned on my Fedora 16 machine today. It booted quite normally to the GDM login screen. When I selected one of my 3 users it started to login to the account as usual, but got no further than loading the background. I CTRL-ALT-BKSPC'd back to the login screen and tried each of the other accounts. Same problem. I can start a terminal session with CTRL-ALT-F2 and login to any user account in that terminal - and it is from there that I am sending this (using Mutt). I have tried googling using a text based browser, (but that is quite hard work) and all I have come up with is this bugzilla https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753666 which describes my symptoms perfectly (I am also using the nvidia akmod driver) but there is no resolution for me in that bugzilla. Unlike that report I have updated nothing since Sunday (11 December) and it worked fine yesterday (12 December). Here is an extract from dmesg: [ 39.204161] gnome-shell[1458]: segfault at bc955315 ip 42325db4 sp bfadd520 error 6 in ld-2.14.90.so[42319000+21000] Below I list a (long) extract form /var/log/messages. There is some very fishy looking stuff in that, but I have no idea how to fix it. Please help me to get back to a working gnome-shell! Thanks Mark I don't wish to appear desperate - but... ...I am desperate! Any ideas? It's a bit of a shot in the dark, but you could try removing the proprietary nvidia drivers, and rebooting. It would be something like yum erase \*kmod\*nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia\* That would probably get you back to the nouveau drivers. If that doesn't work, there might be a hint in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log Rich Well thanks for that. I was actually thinking about removing the nvidia driver. As it happens, I gave up on the machine for the moment and went to work. I therefore no longer have physical access to the machine. I can, however ssh into it. While I was wondering about removing or re-installing the nvidia driver I noticed that there is a new kernel available in yum (3.1.5-1.fc16.i686.PAE) so I did a yum update. This will of course cause the akmod module to rebuild the driver. I have rebooted, and the encouraging thing is that dmesg now has no reference to a gnome-shell segfault! Well that's very encouraging! Unfortunately I will not be home again until Thursday evening so I can't actually try to log in to gnome-shell to see if it has worked (are there any command line tricks to test if gnome-shell is working?). Hmm. You could run 'ps fax' and look for a gnome-shell process, or a gdm process (I'm not sure what the login manager shows up as). If you see it there, that shows that it's running. Well I got home today earlier than expected. That's the good news. The bad news is that, when I turned on the machine, another segfault is reported in dmesg and I am still locked out of gnome-shell. Boo! S... I uninstalled the nvidia driver and reverted back to the nouveau one. Now I am typing this to you from Evolution using gnome 3. In other words I am back in. Great! So we've established that it is the nvidia driver that's causing the problem. To tell you the truth I have not noticed any real difference between the nvidia and the nouveau drivers. I guess I should just stay with nouveau. Is there anything I should be aware of while using nouveau instead of the proprietary nvidia driver? Well, the graphics acceleration is poorer with nouveau, and there might be some stability issues I suppose, I haven't used nouveau for a long time as the proprietary driver has always worked for me. On the other hand, you get the self-satisfaction of using open-source software. Is it worth persisting with nvidia? Only if you need it. If nouveau gives you all the accelerated graphics you need, stick with it. Thanks for all the help... No problem. Rich -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 15/12/11 15:32, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Jake Shipton wrote: [snip] Some of your advice is good, but some of it is not. Even though your reply was to a known troll of this list, I'd like to respond to some of your comments. Okay :-). I'll respond back to yours. Ensure when setting up your system you do not use the same password twice, or the same password you use anywhere else. Each password should be unique and should consist of Upper and Lower case letters, Numbers and Symbols (For example: MyPa55W0rd20122011). The password this-is-fun is just as secure as your example. http://vivekgirotra.com/why-the-password-this-is-fun-is-10-times-more Maybe so, but I am simply trying to advise from what I have learned over the years. I am in no way a professional or otherwise. I have simply done passwords like how I have shown in my example above for years, so it is how I advise them :-). [snip] Now you should set up your firewall [snip] Switch to ICMP Filter, and tick the following: - Echo Reply Disabling ping on a workstation that is guaranteed to be behind a router is pointless. Even if the workstation was directly connected to the internet disabling ping is pointless. It will only make future troubleshooting of network issues more difficult. Your internet presence is not hidden by disabling ping. I am aware of that, for example a stealth scan with no ping will still pick up open ports. However, the person who I replied too claims to be under attack constantly. So why not? If you need to troubleshoot your network, it isn't difficult to re-enable the ping. [snip] -- Jake -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 2 Thunderbird problems. Filters and S-L-O-W downloading.
On 15/12/11 15:25, linux guy wrote: Yesterday I migrated my email activities from Evolution to Thunderbird after my Evolution setup had been non operational for 4 months. Painful. Fortunately, I use gmail as my mail server, so I accessed my several email accounts via a web browser. Painful, but it worked. Thunderbird is working OK, but I have 2 issues. 1. It is taking forever to download the emails from one of my gmail accounts. When I Get Mail on that account, it comes back saying a handful (8 to 20) emails are ready to download, downloads them and then stops. If you check again, it gets another handful and stops. And again and again. I have several thousand emails to download from that account. Why Thunderbird getting 200 emails at a time ? Is this a gmail problem or a Thunderbird problem ? POP3 or IMAP? My Thunderbird running in IMAP works just fine at downloading messages. I would however recommend only downloading headers. If you want to download everything, that's okay too. But speed-wise it could be down to speed caps on the Gmail servers. However I'm not entirely sure on that one. As a Gmail user I've never noticed the issue you describe. 2. I sort all my emails into local folders using filters. I have created a half dozen filters, just like I would in Evolution, but they don't seem to run. When I go Tools- Message Filters- Run Now, nothing happens. Odd. Works just fine here, have you setup the filters correctly? If you select a message that should filter into a folder and go to Tools Run Filters on Message does the message move to where it is supposed to go? I have FiltaQuilla installed. I have no idea what that is. Any and all help on these issues will be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Jake -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 2 Thunderbird problems. Filters and S-L-O-W downloading.
I have several thousand emails to download from that account. Why Thunderbird getting 200 emails at a time ? Is this a gmail problem or a Thunderbird problem ? I have the same behavior with a clear Thunderbird installation under Fedora 16 and POP protocol and download only headers options. I have a a big number of mails in gmail, half of them are downloaded, the others are ignored. Emilio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help! Gnome-Shell segfault.
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:08:52 + Arthur Dent misc.li...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: whack To tell you the truth I have not noticed any real difference between the nvidia and the nouveau drivers. I guess I should just stay with nouveau. Is there anything I should be aware of while using nouveau instead of the proprietary nvidia driver? Is it worth persisting with nvidia? Thanks for all the help... Mark Mark (or Arthur or Hey You...) I've found the Nouveau drivers work well for me, although I have used the nVidia drivers in the past. Frankly, I can't tell the difference between Nouveau and nVidia, and I avoid a lot of hassles. I'm using a two year old Nvidia GeForce 9500 GT card and a 2007 vintage Acer 17 inch LCD monitor with 1280 x 1024 resolution, and It's OK with full screen Flash -- cmg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Boot error: *ERROR* failed to get supported _DSM functions
Hi all; I see this (see below snippit from my latest /var/log/messages file) each time I boot (Fedora 15 x86_64, fully up to date, Thinkpad T410, i7 chip, 8G ram) Thoughts? Thanks in advance... Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.932891] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.943903] i915 :00:02.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.943907] i915 :00:02.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.943914] i915 :00:02.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.949875] MXM: GUID detected in BIOS Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.950989] VGA switcheroo: detected DSM switching method \_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_ handle Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.951129] nouveau :01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.951138] nouveau :01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.951147] nouveau :01:00.0: enabling device (0104 - 0107) Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.951159] nouveau :01:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.981107] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010). Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.981109] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query. *Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.981225] [drm:intel_dsm_pci_probe] *ERROR* failed to get supported _DSM functions Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.981462] [drm:intel_dsm_pci_probe] *ERROR* failed to get supported _DSM functions* Dec 15 10:48:16 Issac kernel: [2.981558] vgaarb: device changed decodes: PCI::00:02.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=io+mem Dec 15 10:48:1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: messages log is empty
Claude Jones wrote: my messages log is 0 bytes, completely empty has this functionality been moved elsewhere? Is your rsyslog service running? # systemctl status rsyslog.service -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 11:30 AM, Jake Shipton wrote: On 15/12/11 15:32, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Jake Shipton wrote: [snip] Some of your advice is good, but some of it is not. Even though your reply was to a known troll of this list, I'd like to respond to some of your comments. Okay :-). I'll respond back to yours. Ensure when setting up your system you do not use the same password twice, or the same password you use anywhere else. Each password should be unique and should consist of Upper and Lower case letters, Numbers and Symbols (For example: MyPa55W0rd20122011). The password this-is-fun is just as secure as your example. http://vivekgirotra.com/why-the-password-this-is-fun-is-10-times-more Maybe so, but I am simply trying to advise from what I have learned over the years. I am in no way a professional or otherwise. Unfortunately, in the area of passwords too many real security professionals have given bad advice. So not being a security professional is not necessarily a bad thing here! I have simply done passwords like how I have shown in my example above for years, so it is how I advise them :-). But the attack vectors have changed. Cloud computing has put real cracking ability in the hands of everyday hackers. I authored the original paper on attacking WiFi WPA-PSK passwords. I did that becuase vendors were not putting ANY constraints on passwords, and you could enter a 4 digit pin with the first release of WPA products. My paper caused a bit of consternation and DID get password minimums set to 8 characters. Good enough back in '03. Now the attack is very easy with cloud computing. I recommend that everyone look at SAE for WiFi security. It is part of 802.11s, but can be used for general AP-STA security. It is already implemented the OpenAP code. SAE (by my colleague Dan Harkins of Aruba) has NO offline attack and a active attack only gets one guess per try. SAE is of the class of 'zero-based knowledge' password methods. Anyway enough of a digression, just my point that attacks change over time and what was considered 'good enough' 5 years ago is no longer good at all. Passphrases have ALWAYS been recognized as stronger than passwords, and easier to remember. The problem in using them is that many systems would just truncate long passphrases or put strong limits on size of entry. For some time UNIX login was so limited, for example. I use a couple different styles of passphrases myself. [snip] Now you should set up your firewall [snip] Switch to ICMP Filter, and tick the following: - Echo Reply Disabling ping on a workstation that is guaranteed to be behind a router is pointless. Even if the workstation was directly connected to the internet disabling ping is pointless. It will only make future troubleshooting of network issues more difficult. Your internet presence is not hidden by disabling ping. I am aware of that, for example a stealth scan with no ping will still pick up open ports. However, the person who I replied too claims to be under attack constantly. So why not? If you need to troubleshoot your network, it isn't difficult to re-enable the ping. The age old arguement about this wonderful network hack. To allow pings or not to allow them. I generally like them, but can agree that for the OP, disabling them for the 'warm fuzzy' is worth it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: messages log is empty
On 12/15/2011 01:17 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Claude Jones wrote: my messages log is 0 bytes, completely empty has this functionality been moved elsewhere? Is your rsyslog service running? # systemctl status rsyslog.service That's it, but, how do I enable it? systemctl status rsyslog.service rsyslog.service - System Logging Service Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service; disabled) Active: inactive (dead) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/rsyslog.service I tried: systemctl enable rsyslog.service ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/rsyslog.service' Running the status command now shows it as enabled but still inactive (dead) -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: messages log is empty
On 15/12/11 18:32, Claude Jones wrote: I tried: systemctl enable rsyslog.service ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/rsyslog.service' Running the status command now shows it as enabled but still inactive (dead) systemctl start rsyslog.service -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: messages log is empty [Solved}
I opened the Services program and found rsyslog was still listed as not running - maybe enabling wasn't sufficient using the systemctl command. I need to spend some time on the commands from systemctl. I started it from the services program GUI interface and it started right up and started filling up with output. On 12/15/2011 01:32 PM, Claude Jones wrote: On 12/15/2011 01:17 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Claude Jones wrote: my messages log is 0 bytes, completely empty has this functionality been moved elsewhere? Is your rsyslog service running? # systemctl status rsyslog.service That's it, but, how do I enable it? systemctl status rsyslog.service rsyslog.service - System Logging Service Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service; disabled) Active: inactive (dead) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/rsyslog.service I tried: systemctl enable rsyslog.service ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/rsyslog.service' Running the status command now shows it as enabled but still inactive (dead) -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: messages log is empty [Solved}
Am 15.12.2011 19:41, schrieb Claude Jones: I opened the Services program and found rsyslog was still listed as not running - maybe enabling wasn't sufficient using the systemctl command. I need to spend some time on the commands from systemctl. I started it from the services program GUI interface and it started right up and started filling up with output. enable has nothing to do with running as it not had with sysv all over the years systemctl enable/disable/stop/start whatever.service there is really no gui needed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 11:34 AM, Jake Shipton wrote: On 15/12/11 15:23, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I will provide a disclaimer up front that I work in the security field, but I design security protocols (e.g. co-chaired IPsec, author of HIP, contributor to 802.11i) and OS security I learn from osmosis from my colleagues. I myself am not working within the security field. I am simply passing on advise from what I have learned over the years :-) (Well part of it) And a lot of GOOD advice here! On 12/15/2011 08:08 AM, Jake Shipton wrote: On 14/12/11 23:13, Linda McLeod wrote: Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but... Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error? From: Joe Zeffj...@zeff.us To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. What evidence do you have that strangers have targeted your machine and repeatedly trashed it? The evidence is in this 5-inch stake of evidence, and in this box beside the tower.. which proves that they destroyed a lot of my property, and proves that psychotic-humans destroyed their greatest scientist yet... What have you done to make your computer either an easier or harder target? Everything I could understand, in the many Linux forums... Okay.. Let's talk security :-). Right so before I get started I would like to say: If you are serious about making your machine secure, you will have to learn a thing or two about security. Reason being: a machine is only as secure as you make it. (Regardless of OS) In this mail I will try to give you some basic security tips which should get you a bit more secure than you appear to be now. From my own personal experience. You claim to have people targeting you.. and considering what you say and claim it wouldn't surprise me. But anyhow, that's not what I am here to discuss :-). So, first things first. If your machine has recently been targeted and trashed, reinstall the OS. Chances are, if they got in once, they probably left them selves a nice easy backdoor (rootkit even). The safest and quickest way to remove one of these on a home computer is to just wipe the OS (They can be removed manually, but that takes a bit more skill..) - Install the very latest version of Fedora (16), (if using Fedora, I'm assuming you are as your on a Fedora list) If you are truly paranoid, you will NOT have your computer connected to the network during the install from a DVD. Then further, from a trusted computer (hey, how do you bootstrap this :) ), you build a local repo of the fedora updates so you don't need to be exposed to internet access during the 'yum update' process. This second step might be hard. Linux install is NOT as bad as say XP install where you can get owned DURING the install if you are connected (I have see lab tests where 2 min into the XP install the system was owned). That's all well and good, but there is one problem with that. How do you explain to a average user who may not know exactly what they are doing to do all of that? For an average paranoid user not behind a locked down gateway firewall, I would recommend install without network connectivity from the full DVD. Then to shutdown services as you showed later, and THEN connect and get the updates. Or even say just do yum update kern* first, reboot, then yum update in case there are real problems in the original kernel. This would be simple enough for the average user, IMNSHO. Ensure when setting up your system you do not use the same password twice, or the same password you use anywhere else. Each password should be unique and should consist of Upper and Lower case letters, Numbers and Symbols (For example: MyPa55W0rd20122011). I am quite contrary on passwords and password strengths. Also changing GOOD passwords. For a semi comical look at the password problem see: http://xkcd.com/936/ For a good analysis of the problem with passwords see: http://www.cryptosmith.com/password-sanity Richard has a very good book on Authentication that I once taught a class from... That said, a string of words can be easy to type in and easy to remember. However, there are programs out there like VNC that ONLY use the first 8 characters in the password and ignore the rest! VNC? Probably not the most secure method of remotely controlling a machine I would say. An example of a current service that is locked into the 8 character password mindset. I do use VNC, but over SSH. As for password strengths, I've always done it the way of my example so I simply still advise that. If I'm wrong I'll fully admit to being wrong. :-). Not wrong, as behind the attack path. But if the service does limit password length, passphrases are a problem. Smith on his site has a good 18 character password with ~42 bits of entropy. Once you've got your new shiny OS installed, immediately run yum update as root. Make sure all packages are downloaded and installed. The Next step
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
Am 15.12.2011 20:45, schrieb Linda McLeod: Seems they never get-in while the OS is updating, but when FF is up, they do so get in, and mess things up, like a brat kid with a full diaper leaking streaks all over mum's living-room white shag carpet... Sometimes they lock-out FF's tools header.. They change the language in the google search page.. They make right-click tools infective... For several years they've been tormenting me with crashes, a few per month, up to four per week.. usually the moment I've keyed something, in a post, they couldn't handle, because it exposes too much truth about the evils that torment humanity.. so I evolved it into writing posts with the net-wire pulled from the tower.. Seems as if they are almost hard-wired into my IP.. They have the power, they do what ever in hell they please... this is all simply laughable tell me why i never had any malware or intrusions on my computers? not on my personal ones which are all exposed to static IP's not on business servers where you have 24 hours a day attackers not on exposed servers where professional security audits running each week what you are trying to tell us here is simply impossible if you are not so dumb and everytime you reinstall your computer restore a compromised userhome with a autostart signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 11:57 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: what you are trying to tell us here is simply impossible if you are not so dumb and everytime you reinstall your computer restore a compromised userhome with a autostart There's another possibility. Back when I was working in tech support, I helped a very nice gentleman once, who was certain that his neighbors were packet-sniffing his dial-up account and that the building's manager was slipping in and messing up his connection's configuration. He also told me that he'd complained both to the local police and the FBI, but neither of them was willing to listen to him and he didn't understand why. I never even hinted at the possibility that he might be doing something himself to cause the trouble, but I had my suspicions. It's possible that the OP is doing something to cause her computer to go hinky, although I'd bet that she was only trying to protect herself and/or her data and if so, she might not realize what's going on. BTW, in the case of that caller, I didn't suggest a tinfoil hat, although I thought about it. I kept my thoughts to myself in that case for two reasons: first, he was a nice guy, very polite and articulate, and I didn't want to take the chance of offending a customer and second, he sounded like the type of person who might actually take me seriously and I wouldn't want *that* on my conscience. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 12:01 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: There are some other attack vectors. For example you download an audio recording or get one in your email and it starts up with a message that a codec is needed and you ALLOW it. Thing is that codec that is retrieved is malware. So in this case either firefox or your emailing (thunderbird?) started things. I was under the impression that codecs were executables and as such, OS specific. I presume that a Windows codec/trojan could run under wine if you have it installed, but would it be able to do any damage? Enquiring minds want to *KNOW!* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
Am 15.12.2011 21:24, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 12/15/2011 11:57 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: what you are trying to tell us here is simply impossible if you are not so dumb and everytime you reinstall your computer restore a compromised userhome with a autostart There's another possibility. Back when I was working in tech support, I helped a very nice gentleman once, who was certain that his neighbors were packet-sniffing his dial-up account and that the building's manager was slipping in and messing up his connection's configuration. so what even if someone is sniffing my whole traffic i can not imageine how he would intruse my system - packages are signed, the real relevant traffic is encrypted, ssh must not use the same passwords like any unimportant web-account sorry but if someone is messing permanently your computer from outside you must do many things terrible wrong signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] console issues
After looking at the directory settings, I found that there were a lot of references to the wrong IP address. After solving all of those I am able to get past the issue I raised earlier but the console does not have labels on the settings tabs. What file stores these labels? It seems that my installation is somewhat broken, but as it is currently in use I cannot risk killing the rest of the directory to fix the console. From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:08 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Cc: Ellsworth, Josh Subject: Re: [389-users] console issues On 12/15/2011 10:46 AM, Ellsworth, Josh wrote: I am working on deploying 389 in my organization but I'm having an issue with the Windows console. After I log in, the console looks like the screenshot here: http://imgur.com/W1hVd When I click on the Directory Server tree it changes to say this server component has not yet been downloaded, or it could not be activated. Press Download to retry. I need to be able to access the Directory Server properties, any idea why I can't? Check the admin server access logs on the server - /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/access - do you see the connection attempt from the Windows box? If so, what is the URL requested, and what is the response? You can also edit the windows console .bat file to add -D 9 -f console.log to the argument list after the Console class - run the console with that, edit console.log to remove/obscure any sensitive info, and send it to the list -- Joshua Ellsworth System Administrator, Primatics Financial Phone: 571.765.7528 jellswo...@primaticsfinancial.com -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
OT? Guest machine on VirtualBox-4.1 BOOTMGR is compressed.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi friends, Sorry for the inconvenient, if this is the wrong list but, I was in paradise. Than...wellcome to jungle. No way out. I updated from Fedora14-x86_64 to Fedora16-x86_64 host, and I thought VirtualBox-4.0 was ok. When I started Winvista64 Guest I got the message: BOOTMGR is compressed Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart I did it, and the Winvista64 boot started again and stoped at the same point. In a loop. I thought that the problem was VirtualBox for Fedora14. I removed it. So I installed Virtualbox-4.1-4.1.6 for Fedora16-x86_64. The same thing is happening. Why bootmgr has changed? Anybody helps? The guest machine was working untouched in a Production more than a year. I only updated from Fedora14 to Fedora16. I'm convinced that the problem is on WinVista, but I hate M$ jungle. Help. I got from VirtualBox forum: we don't really support (fully) the distro branches of VirtualBox. How, if possible, to get help from our friends that made the package VirtualBox-4.1.x86_64? Ps: I'm trying to move to KVM. I'd appreciate any pointer to the solution. Thanks in advance. - -- Lucélio Gomes de Freitas ETFCSF- U.G.F.- P.U.C.(RJ) Engº, Analista Suporte(Free Mind). Email: aa.luce...@gmail.com Tel: 55 0XX 21 85964911 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAk7qWqIACgkQENqGaHfBA/fI2QD/WaWbs6rE3m81csx84dWu/Vnd a5O2XdInPZ8N/QcbgIgBAJkHF2bjNMiFGMiI8UKhpLYTq0Eq2nHv1JAF0H9FGxBm =5aoz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 12:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: even if someone is sniffing my whole traffic i can not imageine how he would intruse my system - packages are signed, the real relevant traffic is encrypted, ssh must not use the same passwords like any unimportant web-account I didn't say I believed him, did I? I was reporting what he told me, so that you could see what type of person he was and why this thread reminded me of him. I might add that, unlike the OP, he never tried to explain why his landlord was messing up his settings or why his neighbors were packet sniffing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 12:29 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/15/2011 12:01 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: There are some other attack vectors. For example you download an audio recording or get one in your email and it starts up with a message that a codec is needed and you ALLOW it. Thing is that codec that is retrieved is malware. So in this case either firefox or your emailing (thunderbird?) started things. I was under the impression that codecs were executables and as such, OS specific. I presume that a Windows codec/trojan could run under wine if you have it installed, but would it be able to do any damage? Enquiring minds want to *KNOW!* They're usually libraries and may be cross-platform, e.g. the mplayer non-free codecs are designed for Windows but work in Linux as well. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
dhcpd server failing to start
The relevant line from my dhcpd.conf is the top one here: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.199; option routers 192.168.2.1; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; From my messages log, it says: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf line 9: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination. Can anyone spot what's wrong with that subnet number/mask combo? -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Amarok problem
The Linux Journal's picks for favorite software has come out. The favorite Audio Player so I decided to try it. But something strange happens. In the playlist track 10 and 11 comes between track 1 and 2. Track 10 and 11 appear also in their proper place in the playlist. What can one do to straighten this out? -- === I enjoy the time that we spend together. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: messages log is empty
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 13:32 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: On 12/15/2011 01:17 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Claude Jones wrote: my messages log is 0 bytes, completely empty has this functionality been moved elsewhere? Is your rsyslog service running? # systemctl status rsyslog.service That's it, but, how do I enable it? systemctl status rsyslog.service rsyslog.service - System Logging Service Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service; disabled) Active: inactive (dead) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/rsyslog.service I tried: systemctl enable rsyslog.service ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/rsyslog.service' Running the status command now shows it as enabled but still inactive (dead) -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA Then you have to run: systemctl start rsyslog.service -- === People will do tomorrow what they did today because that is what they did yesterday. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
On 12/15/2011 04:10 PM, Claude Jones wrote: The relevant line from my dhcpd.conf is the top one here: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.199; option routers 192.168.2.1; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; From my messages log, it says: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf line 9: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination. Can anyone spot what's wrong with that subnet number/mask combo? Try 192.168.1.0 / 255.255.255.0 gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
On 12/15/2011 04:21 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 12/15/2011 04:10 PM, Claude Jones wrote: The relevant line from my dhcpd.conf is the top one here: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 { ... Try 192.168.1.0 / 255.255.255.0 typo - your net is 192.168.2.0 / 255.255.255.0 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
Am 15.12.2011 22:10, schrieb Claude Jones: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf line 9: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination. Can anyone spot what's wrong with that subnet number/mask combo? 192.168.2.1 is not a subnet, 192.168.2.0 is signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
On 12/15/2011 04:23 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 12/15/2011 04:21 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 12/15/2011 04:10 PM, Claude Jones wrote: The relevant line from my dhcpd.conf is the top one here: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 { ... Try 192.168.1.0 / 255.255.255.0 typo - your net is 192.168.2.0 / 255.255.255.0 I tried both suggestions, singly, and both together though I didn't think the forward slash in lieu of netmask was right. (I have another subnet declaration just above the one it's complaining about that uses netmask, not a /, and it doesn't gripe about that one, and that's the way it's written in the sample dhcpd.conf file that is buried down in the dhcpd doc folder in /usr/share/doc/dhcp-4.2.3). Nothing worked. It's so strange... -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
On 12/15/2011 04:28 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.12.2011 22:10, schrieb Claude Jones: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf line 9: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination. Can anyone spot what's wrong with that subnet number/mask combo? 192.168.2.1 is not a subnet, 192.168.2.0 is yup, changed that, and now the error is different, but the service is still failing - it reports: Not configured to listen on any interfaces! my whole dhcpd.conf file: option domain-name fedoraleesburg.local; option domain-name-servers 151.197.0.38, 199.45.32.38; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; ddns-update-style none; authoritative; subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.2.100 192.168.2.199; option routers 192.168.2.1; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; } -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
Am 15.12.2011 22:56, schrieb Claude Jones: On 12/15/2011 04:28 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.12.2011 22:10, schrieb Claude Jones: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf line 9: subnet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination. Can anyone spot what's wrong with that subnet number/mask combo? 192.168.2.1 is not a subnet, 192.168.2.0 is yup, changed that, and now the error is different, but the service is still failing - it reports: Not configured to listen on any interfaces! my whole dhcpd.conf file this has nothing to do with your dhcpd.conf look at your /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd AND you network-config of the machine has the machine a 192.168.2.x address? this below is my config for having dhcp only on internal subnet which is in my case a brdige between lan-interface and wlan0 because the machine acts as router/wlan-ap [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd # Command line options here DHCPDARGS=br0 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] console issues
Not sure if it helps, but when attempting to use the browser I now get errors like this in the console.log: ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor ClassLoader: javax/swing/ComboBoxEditor.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar ResourceSet:getString():Unable to resolve replication-supplier-cUnlimited-label ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet ClassLoader: netscape/ldap/LDAPAttributeSet.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-0 java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: setSelectedIndex: 3 out of bounds at javax.swing.JComboBox.setSelectedIndex(JComboBox.java:601) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.update FieldsFromOriginalValues(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.init(U nknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.BlankPanel.select(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.ContainerPanel.stateChanged(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.fireStateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:400) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane$ModelListener.stateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:253) at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.fireStateChanged(DefaultSingleSe lectionModel.java:116) at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.setSelectedIndex(DefaultSingleSe lectionModel.java:50) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndexImpl(JTabbedPane.java:599) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndex(JTabbedPane.java:574) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.insertTab(JTabbedPane.java:710) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.addTab(JTabbedPane.java:777) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.DSTabbedPanel.addTab(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationSettingPanel.in it(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationResourceObject.g etCustomPanel(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.management.client.ResourceModel.getCustomPanel(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.management.client.ResourcePage.valueChanged(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JTree.fireValueChanged(JTree.java:2820) at javax.swing.JTree$TreeSelectionRedirector.valueChanged(JTree.java:3191) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(DefaultTreeS electionModel.java:629) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.notifyPathChange(DefaultTreeS electionModel.java:1078) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPaths(DefaultTree SelectionModel.java:287) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPath(DefaultTreeS electionModel.java:170) at javax.swing.JTree.setSelectionPath(JTree.java:1598) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI.selectPathForEvent(BasicTreeUI.java:2 311) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.handleSelection(BasicTreeUI.j ava:3520) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.mousePressed(BasicTreeUI.java :3459) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mousePressed(AWTEventMulticaster.java:262) at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6285) at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3267) at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:6053) at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2041) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4651) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2099) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4481) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4577) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:4235) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:4168) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2085) at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:2478) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4481) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(EventQueue.java:643) at java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(EventQueue.java:84) at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(EventQueue.java:602) at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(EventQueue.java:600) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 03:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/15/2011 12:01 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: There are some other attack vectors. For example you download an audio recording or get one in your email and it starts up with a message that a codec is needed and you ALLOW it. Thing is that codec that is retrieved is malware. So in this case either firefox or your emailing (thunderbird?) started things. I was under the impression that codecs were executables and as such, OS specific. I presume that a Windows codec/trojan could run under wine if you have it installed, but would it be able to do any damage? Enquiring minds want to *KNOW!* The windows ones are becoming REAL problems, the good anti-malware programs block them, though. There are also ones for MACs and I have no information on how well they will work on generic Linux. Thing is, there are also ones coming out now for Androids and those will be more of a Linux problem. We are no longer immune, running on Linux. BTW, this is the daytime job of some of my colleagues. I just see their summary reports. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] console issues
OK, I got it by installing a bunch of RPMs that put the .jar files in the right places. From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Ellsworth, Josh Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:07 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Subject: Re: [389-users] console issues Not sure if it helps, but when attempting to use the browser I now get errors like this in the console.log: ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor ClassLoader: javax/swing/ComboBoxEditor.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar ResourceSet:getString():Unable to resolve replication-supplier-cUnlimited-label ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet ClassLoader: netscape/ldap/LDAPAttributeSet.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-0 java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: setSelectedIndex: 3 out of bounds at javax.swing.JComboBox.setSelectedIndex(JComboBox.java:601) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.updateFieldsFromOriginalValues(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.init(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.BlankPanel.select(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.ContainerPanel.stateChanged(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.fireStateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:400) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane$ModelListener.stateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:253) at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.fireStateChanged(DefaultSingleSelectionModel.java:116) at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.setSelectedIndex(DefaultSingleSelectionModel.java:50) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndexImpl(JTabbedPane.java:599) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndex(JTabbedPane.java:574) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.insertTab(JTabbedPane.java:710) at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.addTab(JTabbedPane.java:777) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.DSTabbedPanel.addTab(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationSettingPanel.init(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationResourceObject.getCustomPanel(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.management.client.ResourceModel.getCustomPanel(Unknown Source) at com.netscape.management.client.ResourcePage.valueChanged(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JTree.fireValueChanged(JTree.java:2820) at javax.swing.JTree$TreeSelectionRedirector.valueChanged(JTree.java:3191) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:629) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.notifyPathChange(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:1078) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPaths(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:287) at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPath(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:170) at javax.swing.JTree.setSelectionPath(JTree.java:1598) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI.selectPathForEvent(BasicTreeUI.java:2311) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.handleSelection(BasicTreeUI.java:3520) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.mousePressed(BasicTreeUI.java:3459) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mousePressed(AWTEventMulticaster.java:262) at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6285) at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3267) at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:6053) at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2041) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4651) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2099) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4481) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4577) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:4235) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:4168) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2085) at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:2478) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4481) at
Re: Fedora 16's Performance
On 12/15/2011 07:35 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Ian Maloneibmal...@gmail.com wrote: [63.506] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on Quadro FX 2500M at PCI:1:0:0 [63.506] (--) NVIDIA(0): none [63.506] (EE) NVIDIA(0): No display devices found for this X screen. This is definitely an issue with Nvidia's binary blob. It doesn't think you have a monitor! Try adding this line to Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-nvidia.conf: Option ConnectedMonitor CRT That will trick the driver into thinking you have an older monitor it can't detect and bypass detection. -T.C. Thanks for your help but that didn't work. Matter of fact, after I installed the nvidia drivers and it didn't work, I went back to erase it out and it was already gone. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Big email mess ! How do I clean it up ? (Evolution, Thunderbird, maildir, mbox)
On 2011/12/15 06:20, Genes MailLists wrote: On 12/15/2011 08:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 23:56 -0700, linux guy wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Scott Dotysc...@ponzo.net wrote: And if that doesn't work, you could just use mutt -- it will read the maildirs and can save them as mboxes. :) Where does the new evolution keep them ? The default for local mail is maildirs. It used to be mboxes. You don't say what version of Evolution you're using. Earlier versions had some maildir support but it may have been buggy. One suggestion - never ever use local storage with any mail client. I recommend setting up a local imap server (dovecot works well) and use that for -all- local storage for your mail. This is a really easy thing to do. Once you do that, then you are now mail client independent - and can switch clients without any issues about how mail is stored. Just as a warning Experience suggests some mail clients can build a nested folder structure with contents in the branch nodes as well as the end nodes and some cannot. That suggests a structure such as I keep: ===8--- ... Linux Full of this list's mail Savers Contains items worth saving including subscription emails. ... ===8--- At least one client I tried to use with IMAP (as part of spamassassin training) would not deal with that folder nesting. Linux would have only been a node name not a mailbox of its own. The suggestion to use Dovecot to serve it up has merit. Once the old stuff is pulled into T'bird and safely stowed dovecot can be switched over to mbox easily enough. That makes my habit of backing up email easy. I leave mail on the server. Each month I archive the T'bird mail and the mail spool. That makes it easy to filter the email with fetchmail to grab the email, procmail to prefilter it and feed it to spamassassin, spamc to feed it back to procmail which delivers it to the spool. That way when I am reading email I don't have to sit around while SpamAssassin filters the email as Thunderbird fetches it. Dovecot sits on the mail spool and responds quite properly, quickly, and accurately to T'bird's requests. {^_^} -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
On 12/15/2011 05:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: my whole dhcpd.conf file this has nothing to do with your dhcpd.conf look at your /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd AND you network-config of the machine has the machine a 192.168.2.x address? this below is my config for having dhcp only on internal subnet which is in my case a brdige between lan-interface and wlan0 because the machine acts as router/wlan-ap [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd # Command line options here DHCPDARGS=br0 I looked at the file and it was set to DHCPDARGS=eth1 which is my internet NIC; so, I changed that to DHCPDARGS=eth2 which is my LAN NIC, and to your question as to whether I have such an address as 192.168.2.1, I do, and according to Network Manager, that NIC is connected. The previous errors being reported in var/log/messages, the incorrect subnet error, and the Not configured to listen on any interfaces! error, are resolved now. A new error now being reported is this: Can't open /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases for append. and then results in Unit dhcpd.service entered failed state. - I navigated to that file using Konqueror running as root, and the file is there and I was able to open it just fine...could this be Selinux causing the unable to open? I just checked sealerts and there are none... The strange thing about all this is that this was all working the last time I had a computer behind this box - it's been awhile but I don't know why I would have changed that /sysconfig/dhcpd setting over the past months...the mislabeled subnet was probably me when I was trying various things to troubleshoot this. -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 13:21 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/15/2011 01:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: They're usually libraries and may be cross-platform, e.g. the mplayer non-free codecs are designed for Windows but work in Linux as well. I see. Thank you. However, considering the differences between the two environments, especially the differences in how security is implemented, would malware designed for Windows be able to do any damage on a Linux system? Malware usually has to be finely tuned to the host environment, e.g. mess with Windows Registry (Linux doesn't have one as such), install a boot sector (needs root), override the user's PATH (won't affect anything outside the executable and its children) etc. Altering the user's environment requires knowledge of where the files are and what's in them, and this is completely different on Linux and Windows. Of course a Trojan could be designed to do all of these, but you're basically in the same position as anyone running a downloaded executable that hasn't been certified by someone you trust. (I can see how it could phone home and/or download a payload, but could it cause any permanent damage to anything other than the user's own files?) Not unless it's running as root. I've been telling people that Windows-specific malware doesn't work under Linux, but then, I was telling people that email viruses were impossible right up until the first one struck. If my information's out of date, I need to know. Which email virus are you thinking of? I don't know any that would work on both Windows and Linux, but no doubt someone has tried. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
On 12/15/2011 04:45 PM, Claude Jones wrote: I tried both suggestions, singly, and both together though I didn't think the forward slash in lieu of netmask was right. Nothing worked. It's so strange... bah sorry - the / wasn't supposed to be literal ... i just meant change the .1 to .0 to make it a proper network address. Of course the netmask key word is correct. I see you have fixed that now but have fallen into a different problem :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dhcpd server failing to start
On 12/15/2011 05:57 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: I see you have fixed that now but have fallen into a different problem:-) yeah, layered issues - I'm on #3 now... -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 02:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Which email virus are you thinking of? I don't know any that would work on both Windows and Linux, but no doubt someone has tried. I'm not thinking of any of them. I was using email viruses as an example of something we used to think was impossible. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: abrtd - how to remove
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 20:07 +, mike cloaked wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:04 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need. I think abrtd needs help with its decisions ... it appears way too naive in the debuginfo files it needs. That said - how do I remove it? I removed abrt-libs - is that sufficient? Or is there an abrtd daemon that somehow needs to be removed ... F15 thanks Actually I think that what is needed here is the retrace server - see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RetraceServer However at the time when I was using this some time ago around the f15 rc stage there were problems and I don't know what the current status is for this facility? If anyone knows whether it is now up and running it would be really valuable. In f16 it seems to be available as a package: yum info abrt-retrace-client I just tried to use abrt to report a crash in Amarok (which bombs every time I start a new session under KDE). It dutifully offered to download the debuginfo packages, but they were over 700MB so I declined. I have the Retrace client installed, but abrt did not offer to use the server. What am I missing? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] console issues
On 12/15/2011 03:17 PM, Ellsworth, Josh wrote: OK, I got it by installing a bunch of RPMs that put the .jar files in the right places. I don't understand - is the windows console now working for you? Exactly what rpms did you install? What jar files did you place in which right places? *From:*389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Ellsworth, Josh *Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:07 PM *To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. *Subject:* Re: [389-users] console issues Not sure if it helps, but when attempting to use the browser I now get errors like this in the console.log: *ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor* *ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:javax.swing.ComboBoxEditor* *ClassLoader: javax/swing/ComboBoxEditor.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar* *ResourceSet:getString():Unable to resolve replication-supplier-cUnlimited-label* *ClassLoader: :loadClass():name:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet* *ClassLoader: :loadClass():loading:netscape.ldap.LDAPAttributeSet* *ClassLoader: netscape/ldap/LDAPAttributeSet.class NOT in 389-ds-1.2.6.jar* *Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-0 java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: setSelectedIndex: 3 out of bounds* *at javax.swing.JComboBox.setSelectedIndex(JComboBox.java:601)* *at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.updateFieldsFromOriginalValues(Unknown Source)* *at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.SupplierSettingPanel.init(Unknown Source)* *at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.BlankPanel.select(Unknown Source)* *at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.ContainerPanel.stateChanged(Unknown Source)* *at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.fireStateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:400)* *at javax.swing.JTabbedPane$ModelListener.stateChanged(JTabbedPane.java:253)* *at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.fireStateChanged(DefaultSingleSelectionModel.java:116)* *at javax.swing.DefaultSingleSelectionModel.setSelectedIndex(DefaultSingleSelectionModel.java:50)* *at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndexImpl(JTabbedPane.java:599)* *at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.setSelectedIndex(JTabbedPane.java:574)* *at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.insertTab(JTabbedPane.java:710)* *at javax.swing.JTabbedPane.addTab(JTabbedPane.java:777)* *at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.DSTabbedPanel.addTab(Unknown Source)* *at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationSettingPanel.init(Unknown Source)* *at com.netscape.admin.dirserv.panel.replication.ReplicationResourceObject.getCustomPanel(Unknown Source)* *at com.netscape.management.client.ResourceModel.getCustomPanel(Unknown Source)* *at com.netscape.management.client.ResourcePage.valueChanged(Unknown Source)* *at javax.swing.JTree.fireValueChanged(JTree.java:2820)* *at javax.swing.JTree$TreeSelectionRedirector.valueChanged(JTree.java:3191)* *at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.fireValueChanged(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:629)* *at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.notifyPathChange(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:1078)* *at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPaths(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:287)* *at javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeSelectionModel.setSelectionPath(DefaultTreeSelectionModel.java:170)* *at javax.swing.JTree.setSelectionPath(JTree.java:1598)* *at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI.selectPathForEvent(BasicTreeUI.java:2311)* *at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.handleSelection(BasicTreeUI.java:3520)* *at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTreeUI$Handler.mousePressed(BasicTreeUI.java:3459)* *at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mousePressed(AWTEventMulticaster.java:262)* *at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:6285)* *at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3267)* *at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:6053)* *at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2041)* *at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4651)* *at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2099)* *at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4481)* *at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4577)* *at
Re: Amarok problem
On 12/15/2011 10:16 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: The Linux Journal's picks for favorite software has come out. The favorite Audio Player so I decided to try it. But something strange happens. In the playlist track 10 and 11 comes between track 1 and 2. Track 10 and 11 appear also in their proper place in the playlist. What can one do to straighten this out? Sounds like the metadata for the file is incorrect. Amorok is sorting the filename (or incorrect title) alpha numerically. Meaning: 1 - first 11 - second 12 - third 2 - fourth -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome-Shell
On 12/15/2011 05:43, Alan Cox wrote: gnome-shell itself doesn't care, it just uses x.org. If x.org runs, and gives 3D capability, that's all that gnome-shell cares about. Actually it does seem to care in a few cases. On FC15 it would unilaterally decide to do fallback on 2048 pixel wide Intel i9xx displays. I assume this was because the X driver had some 3D bugs in that case. So it's a bit smarter rule and policy wise than you give it credit for. It should certainly be working in FC15 even for most Intel configs, and in FC16 it works on a Radeon HD2450 although it's got a few small bugs now and then. Alan So if the expected result is for me to have a working gnome shell I wonder if it might be something screwy with my install. I preupgraded both of the boxes from F14 to F16 directly. Is there any way of finding out why it would believe these cards can't support 3d acceleration? Dave -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SSH Limiting -- Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
I did a little digging through my various notes and found the following for limiting SSH connections: simply limit the amount of connections a host is allowed to the ssh port iptables -N SSHSCAN iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -j SSHSCAN iptables -A SSHSCAN -m recent --set --name SSH iptables -A SSHSCAN -m recent --update --seconds 300 --hitcount 3 --name SSH -j DROP limits each host to 3 connections within 5 minutes. enough to make bots stop and still not too annoying for users that mistype their password 3x3 times == But when you 'hand edit' iptables, the firewall gui gets 'upset' Also you would need similar rules for ip6tables. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: recent updates followed by NXNomachine failures to complete connection (paging Craig White) [Solved]
Impossible to say what fixed it. qt was updated today. Did a lot of forensics on the NX server trying to fix a dhcp problem - don't see what these could have had to do with it. Rebooted many, many times. When I got home, the client machine took a long time, but, connected... Not much help to others, except, maybe time helps - could have been a lingering lock file from a previous session, or somesuch... On 12/15/2011 02:31 AM, Claude Jones wrote: I need any suggestions for diagnosing this problem: I'm running F16, fully patched up I run KDE with all the latest 4.7 updates I run F16 on my server machine at my office as well, also fully patched up I access the Fedora machine at my office from my home Fedora machine using NX nomachine and all this has been working extremely reliably for a long time, through F15 to F16 preupgrades, and through multiple yum upgrades since This weekend, system upgrades appear to have broken things: When I try to connect, I just get a non-helpful message from the NX client: -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: recent updates followed by NXNomachine failures to complete connection (paging Craig White) [Solved]
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:44:44 -0500 Claude Jones wrote: Impossible to say what fixed it. I just tried my home to work connection over NX (two fully up to date x86_64 fedora 16 boxes at either end), and I had no problems. If something broke for me it got fixed by another update before I happened to notice (I certainly don't use it every day, so that could happen). I run through an ssh tunnel and use a plain old fvwm session not KDE or GNOME. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 17:09 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: The windows ones are becoming REAL problems, the good anti-malware programs block them, though. There are also ones for MACs and I have no information on how well they will work on generic Linux. Thing is, there are also ones coming out now for Androids and those will be more of a Linux problem. the malware for android thus far has been simplistic, easily identified and opportunistic for people installing from alternate sources. ignoring of course, the biggest security threat on all mobile phones... the software put there by the wireless vendors. We are no longer immune, running on Linux. never were immune. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 15:11 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/15/2011 02:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Which email virus are you thinking of? I don't know any that would work on both Windows and Linux, but no doubt someone has tried. I'm not thinking of any of them. I was using email viruses as an example of something we used to think was impossible. Was there such a time? I distinctly remember discussion on the EXMH list (EXMH was a Tcl/Tk-based interface to the MH mail library) way back in the 80's, in which someone proposed allowing the mail body to contain executable content. They were very quickly shouted down by people who immediately realized the potential for evil. Note that this was before MS created Outlook, IOW those of us who place the bulk of the virus problem at MS' door are not just being paranoid. MS had to have known this was possible, they just didn't care. But I digress ... poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
The Curse of the Mad Power-Saver
This is F16 fully updated, under KDE (ditto). For no readily apparent reason my monitor goes black, and shortly thereafter enters power-saving mode. Looks like a screensaver, right? However: It only happens under KDE. It doesn't happen in every session, just sometimes. When it happens, the timeout before blanking the monitor is on the order of 2 to 3 seconds, making it impossible to use the system without constantly jiggling the mouse. KDE Settings (unchanged since F15 and earlier, when this problem did not exist) have the screensaver OFF. Also the Power-save profile is set to Performance with timers unset. The machine is an always on desktop (Intel Mobo, Intel graphics). The monitor is a Flatron W2243S. Some insight would be appreciated. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The Curse of the Mad Power-Saver
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: This is F16 fully updated, under KDE (ditto). For no readily apparent reason my monitor goes black, and shortly thereafter enters power-saving mode. Looks like a screensaver, right? However: It only happens under KDE. It doesn't happen in every session, just sometimes. When it happens, the timeout before blanking the monitor is on the order of 2 to 3 seconds, making it impossible to use the system without constantly jiggling the mouse. KDE Settings (unchanged since F15 and earlier, when this problem did not exist) have the screensaver OFF. Also the Power-save profile is set to Performance with timers unset. The machine is an always on desktop (Intel Mobo, Intel graphics). The monitor is a Flatron W2243S. Some insight would be appreciated. Are you running 4.7.4? Did you have this problem before you updated? I'm also experiencing this with 4.7.90. If it crept in with 4.7.4 also, it should be easier to track down, as not a whole lot should have been backported into that. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The Curse of the Mad Power-Saver
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 20:20 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: This is F16 fully updated, under KDE (ditto). For no readily apparent reason my monitor goes black, and shortly thereafter enters power-saving mode. Looks like a screensaver, right? However: It only happens under KDE. It doesn't happen in every session, just sometimes. When it happens, the timeout before blanking the monitor is on the order of 2 to 3 seconds, making it impossible to use the system without constantly jiggling the mouse. KDE Settings (unchanged since F15 and earlier, when this problem did not exist) have the screensaver OFF. Also the Power-save profile is set to Performance with timers unset. The machine is an always on desktop (Intel Mobo, Intel graphics). The monitor is a Flatron W2243S. Some insight would be appreciated. Are you running 4.7.4? Did you have this problem before you updated? I'm also experiencing this with 4.7.90. If it crept in with 4.7.4 also, it should be easier to track down, as not a whole lot should have been backported into that. Currently on 4.7.3-13.fc16.x86_64 (I don't use updates-testing for the moment). This is an update from the DVD package. The problem also happened with the version installed from the DVD. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Replace libreoffice with openoffice rpms
I have had a problem with libreoffice properly rendering graphics in documents (vertical and hoizontal lines do not display). Never had this problem with OO.org in =f14. Therefore I removed libreoffice and installed OO from rpms from OO.org site. I am now able to read the documents OK. However, after a while an update for package libreoffice-ure appears that won't install. It conflicts with openoffice.org-ure for reasons that are beyond me. This is with Libreoffice completely removed. I tried reinstalling libreoffice but it requires that OO be removed. I then removed OO and re-installed libreoffice and tried to re-install OO and it indicates conflicts regarding the operoffice.org-ure package also. So OO.org and libreOffice can't coexist. Therefore, I need to go back to just OO.org. Is there a way to cause f16 to not try to update libreoffice-ure when libreO is removed and replaced with OO? -gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Replace libreoffice with openoffice rpms
Am 16.12.2011 04:42, schrieb Gene Smith: Therefore, I need to go back to just OO.org. Is there a way to cause f16 to not try to update libreoffice-ure when libreO is removed and replaced with OO? [root@buildserver:~]$ cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo [fedora] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releaseverarch=$basearch enabled=1 metadata_expire=1d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch exclude=dbmail*,php,php-cli,httpd,mysql,mysql-server,postfix*,dovecot*,mod_security,php-suhosin,php-pecl*,apr,apr-devel,GeoIP*,gmime22*,lame*,ffmpeg,x264,x264-libs,x264-devel,openssl*,smokeping,vnstat,netatalk [root@buildserver:~]$ cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo [updates] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releaseverarch=$basearch enabled=1 metadata_expire=1d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch exclude=dbmail*,php,php-cli,httpd,mysql,mysql-server,postfix*,dovecot*,mod_security,php-suhosin,php-pecl*,apr,apr-devel,GeoIP*,gmime22*,lame*,ffmpeg,x264,x264-libs,x264-devel,openssl*,smokeping,vnstat,netatalk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Replace libreoffice with openoffice rpms
On 12/15/2011 10:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.12.2011 04:42, schrieb Gene Smith: Therefore, I need to go back to just OO.org. Is there a way to cause f16 to not try to update libreoffice-ure when libreO is removed and replaced with OO? [root@buildserver:~]$ cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo [fedora] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releaseverarch=$basearch enabled=1 metadata_expire=1d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch exclude=dbmail*,php,php-cli,httpd,mysql,mysql-server,postfix*,dovecot*,mod_security,php-suhosin,php-pecl*,apr,apr-devel,GeoIP*,gmime22*,lame*,ffmpeg,x264,x264-libs,x264-devel,openssl*,smokeping,vnstat,netatalk [root@buildserver:~]$ cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo [updates] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releaseverarch=$basearch enabled=1 metadata_expire=1d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch exclude=dbmail*,php,php-cli,httpd,mysql,mysql-server,postfix*,dovecot*,mod_security,php-suhosin,php-pecl*,apr,apr-devel,GeoIP*,gmime22*,lame*,ffmpeg,x264,x264-libs,x264-devel,openssl*,smokeping,vnstat,netatalk Added: exclude=libreoffice* fixed it. Thank! However, this seems to point to some kind of packaging problem...? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable (broken) nvidia drivers, enable nouveau drivers again ???
I rebooted my computer tonight and got Welcome to maintenance mode It happens for all the kernels I have loaded on the computer. Its giving me obscure (to me) udevd errors. udevd[ When I log in to maintenance mode and snoop around, everything seems fine. boot.log is clean, Xorg.0.log is clean, drives mount without errors, etc. Is this related to regenerating initramfs ? Any ideas ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable (broken) nvidia drivers, enable nouveau drivers again ???
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:40 PM, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I rebooted my computer tonight and got Welcome to maintenance mode It happens for all the kernels I have loaded on the computer. Its giving me obscure (to me) udevd errors. udevd[ When I log in to maintenance mode and snoop around, everything seems fine. boot.log is clean, Xorg.0.log is clean, drives mount without errors, etc. Is this related to regenerating initramfs ? Possibly. Do you have any older kernels listed in GRUB? Can you boot from them? If not, you can boot from a livecd/usb, grab a good initramfs from a kernel RPM, and replace yours with it. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Won't boot. udevd: worker not accepting message.
I get hundreds of the following error when I boot any one of the kernels on my F16 computer. udevd[983]: worker [] did not accept mesage -1 (Connection refused), kill it. I also see udevd[1215] error opening ATTR{/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0/usb3/3-1:1.0/power level} for writing: No such file or directory. When I log into maintenance mode, everything looks fine. Boot.log is clean. Xorg.0.log is clean. Drives mount properly and I can browse them, no problem. It appears that ubuntu had this problem a while back. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/647404?comments=all What is causing it ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable (broken) nvidia drivers, enable nouveau drivers again ???
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:46 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: Is this related to regenerating initramfs ? Possibly. Do you have any older kernels listed in GRUB? Can you boot from them? I have 5 kernels installed and they all generate the same error. If not, you can boot from a livecd/usb, grab a good initramfs from a kernel RPM, and replace yours with it. I checked the boot directory initramfs files and they look OK. I double checked dmesg and found a complaint about /dev/sdb1. I pulled it and now I'm getting a different error altogether. I think the hard drive controller is failing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 20:57 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: this is all simply laughable tell me why i never had any malware or intrusions on my computers? Because, unlike them, you don't have an obvious mental problem, perhaps? It seems quite apparent, to me, and probably others, that the other poster is not normal. Either they're imagining it all, or they're falsely attributing the problems caused by their own misuse of a computer as being caused by someone else. But because they're not capable of coherent communication, perhaps even coherent thought, I don't think we're ever going to get anywhere. Another thought just occurred to me: Maybe they're stealing someone else's internet, and the person they're stealing from is having their revenge by changing the content. Like the transparent proxy hack that give people upside down pictures. ;-) I seriously doubt anyone would attract such (alleged) maliciousness unless they'd been inflicting others, similarly. Take one rm / -rfd twice daily. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out...
On 12/15/2011 06:52 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 15:11 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/15/2011 02:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Which email virus are you thinking of? I don't know any that would work on both Windows and Linux, but no doubt someone has tried. I'm not thinking of any of them. I was using email viruses as an example of something we used to think was impossible. Was there such a time? Back before the first outbreak, most techs were busy telling people that all the rumors of people's computers being infected just by opening an email were just that; it couldn't happen. Then we learned better. Note that this was before MS created Outlook, IOW those of us who place the bulk of the virus problem at MS' door are not just being paranoid. MS had to have known this was possible, they just didn't care. Back then, I referred to Outlook as a mass of bugs held together by security holes. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org