Re: data restore after an upgrade?

2016-05-04 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 05/04/2016 04:01 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote:

The system has 4 SATA 1.0 interfaces, two are are in use for the two
removable disks in the front of the case, the other two are inside the
case and although not impossible to access they are a little difficult
to access.

The original system has 2 disks with multiple partitions, each partition
is in a RAID-1 configuration, the new system has the same basic
configuration but was built on different hardware (at a physically
different location).  Considering that system partitions are relatively
static I've made a copy of those in the event I forgot something that I
need, what I'm trying to figure out is how to deal with the user
partition (/home) since this partition is very dynamic.

You mention the original system and the new system here, but you say you 
aren't changing the hardware.  I'll assume that you're referring to the 
operating system and that you mean you partitioned the new hard drives 
and installed Fedora 23 on them using a separate computer.



My thoughts are to first boot the new disks in the old system making
sure everything is stable then either

2) connect one of the old disks to the now new system via a USB to SATA
adapter (note the machine only has usb 1.1) mount the disk and copy the
data over.

That wouldn't be so bad given the amount of data.  If you can determine 
which USB ports are on different controllers, you could hook up both 
drives as RAID and copy faster.


Or you could put a USB 2.0 card in the computer.


4) 


Couldn't you put the drive in one of the removable slots in the front?
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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 05/04/2016 03:29 PM, Markus Schönhaber wrote:

Samuel Sieb, Wed, 4 May 2016 10:42:20 -0700:


On 05/04/2016 10:09 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

The '*' means "zero or more digits".  Don't forget that zero.
The first match is where there are zero digits, i.e. at the
beginning of the line.  So sed replaces it with "//" (nothing).


However, usually regexps are greedy so they match as much as possible,
not the minimum.


And that's what it does. It matches the empty string at the beginning of
the line - and it would also (greedily) match digits at the beginning of
the line, but there are none. Try
echo '123This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]*//'

Oh, right.  I never use a regexp that can match nothing, so I missed 
that. :-)

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Re: data restore after an upgrade?

2016-05-04 Thread fred roller
Forgive the top post, on my phone.

If /home is all you want to preserve then create a partition sufficient for
it's size. Move or copy the data, latter easier as you don't need to muck
with the current file system.

During the new build go to customize setup partitions and assign /home to
the new partion along with the standard setup of /, /tmp, etc.

I have done this and makes this super easy.  HIH.

Fred Roller
On May 4, 2016 7:01 PM, "Jeffrey Ross"  wrote:

> Looking for some suggestions and thoughts.
>
> I am upgrading the OS on a system with older hardware that I have, it is
> currently running Fedora 16 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Fedora 23.
>
> The system has 4 SATA 1.0 interfaces, two are are in use for the two
> removable disks in the front of the case, the other two are inside the case
> and although not impossible to access they are a little difficult to access.
>
> The original system has 2 disks with multiple partitions, each partition
> is in a RAID-1 configuration, the new system has the same basic
> configuration but was built on different hardware (at a physically
> different location).  Considering that system partitions are relatively
> static I've made a copy of those in the event I forgot something that I
> need, what I'm trying to figure out is how to deal with the user partition
> (/home) since this partition is very dynamic.
>
> My thoughts are to first boot the new disks in the old system making sure
> everything is stable then either
>
> 1) break the mirror insert one of the old disks into the system and mount
> the /home partition someplace and simply copy the files, pull the old disk
> and insert the new disk then rebuild the mirror
>
> or
>
> 2) connect one of the old disks to the now new system via a USB to SATA
> adapter (note the machine only has usb 1.1) mount the disk and copy the
> data over.
>
> or
>
> 3) open the system up and connect one of the old disks to one of the
> internal SATA connectors mount the disk and copy the files over.
>
> or
>
> 4) 
>
> It's not a huge amount of data as I'm only looking at a little less than
> 25GB of data to copy over.
>
> If it matters the system is a dual Opteron 275 system with 16GB of ram,
> its more than sufficient for what its doing which is why I'm not looking to
> upgrade.
>
> Thanks, Jeff
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data restore after an upgrade?

2016-05-04 Thread Jeffrey Ross

Looking for some suggestions and thoughts.

I am upgrading the OS on a system with older hardware that I have, it is 
currently running Fedora 16 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Fedora 23.


The system has 4 SATA 1.0 interfaces, two are are in use for the two 
removable disks in the front of the case, the other two are inside the 
case and although not impossible to access they are a little difficult 
to access.


The original system has 2 disks with multiple partitions, each partition 
is in a RAID-1 configuration, the new system has the same basic 
configuration but was built on different hardware (at a physically 
different location).  Considering that system partitions are relatively 
static I've made a copy of those in the event I forgot something that I 
need, what I'm trying to figure out is how to deal with the user 
partition (/home) since this partition is very dynamic.


My thoughts are to first boot the new disks in the old system making 
sure everything is stable then either


1) break the mirror insert one of the old disks into the system and 
mount the /home partition someplace and simply copy the files, pull the 
old disk and insert the new disk then rebuild the mirror


or

2) connect one of the old disks to the now new system via a USB to SATA 
adapter (note the machine only has usb 1.1) mount the disk and copy the 
data over.


or

3) open the system up and connect one of the old disks to one of the 
internal SATA connectors mount the disk and copy the files over.


or

4) 

It's not a huge amount of data as I'm only looking at a little less than 
25GB of data to copy over.


If it matters the system is a dual Opteron 275 system with 16GB of ram, 
its more than sufficient for what its doing which is why I'm not looking 
to upgrade.


Thanks, Jeff
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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Samuel Sieb, Wed, 4 May 2016 10:42:20 -0700:

> On 05/04/2016 10:09 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
>> The '*' means "zero or more digits".  Don't forget that zero.
>> The first match is where there are zero digits, i.e. at the
>> beginning of the line.  So sed replaces it with "//" (nothing).
>>
> However, usually regexps are greedy so they match as much as possible, 
> not the minimum.

And that's what it does. It matches the empty string at the beginning of
the line - and it would also (greedily) match digits at the beginning of
the line, but there are none. Try
echo '123This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]*//'

> And somehow it does work when you use /g so it is 
> matching more.

No, it's not matching *more*, it's matching *again* (that's exactly what
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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 05/04/2016 11:32 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

Traditionally sed has used basic RE syntax not the extended
syntax that includes "+".  If the OP uses a sed such as
exists on my systems, you can get extended RE syntax with
the "-r" option.

sed -r 's/[0-9]+//'

Samuel, does your sed support extended REs by default?  If so,
what system has that version?

I'm on Fedora 23 and yes, it supports it by default.  Although the + 
does need to be escaped like with grep.  I sent an earlier reply in this 
thread, but it only went to the sender, not the list...


sed 's/[0-9]\+//'
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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 10:42:20AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 05/04/2016 10:09 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > The '*' means "zero or more digits".  Don't forget that zero.
> > The first match is where there are zero digits, i.e. at the
> > beginning of the line.  So sed replaces it with "//" (nothing).
> > 
> However, usually regexps are greedy so they match as much as possible, not
> the minimum.  And somehow it does work when you use /g so it is matching
> more.
> 
> > Try sed 's/[0-9]*/X/' to confirm.
> > 
> > You really want sed 's/[0-9][0-9]*//'  which reads a digit
> > followed by zero or more additional digits.
> > 
> Or use + as has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

Traditionally sed has used basic RE syntax not the extended
syntax that includes "+".  If the OP uses a sed such as
exists on my systems, you can get extended RE syntax with
the "-r" option.

   sed -r 's/[0-9]+//'

Samuel, does your sed support extended REs by default?  If so,
what system has that version?

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Re: GREAT! f22 update of clementine ..,

2016-05-04 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 05/04/2016 10:29 AM, Frank Elsner wrote:

... breaks mp3 playback!

After updating clementine on my F22 I've the same situation
as on my F23 systems: clementine complains about missing
   gstreamer plugin when trying to play mp3!

And it doensn't tell me the name of the missing plugin!

How would it know which package is needed to install the plugin?  All it 
knows is that gstreamer isn't supplying a codec to decode mp3 data.


There are some other applications that know how to ask packagekit for 
codecs though.

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Re: GREAT! f22 update of clementine ..,

2016-05-04 Thread Rick Stevens

On 05/04/2016 10:29 AM, Frank Elsner wrote:

... breaks mp3 playback!

After updating clementine on my F22 I've the same situation
as on my F23 systems: clementine complains about missing
   gstreamer plugin when trying to play mp3!

And it doensn't tell me the name of the missing plugin!

I'm really pissed off.


As was mentioned in the thread relating to your F23 problems, you
probably need gstreamer-plugins-ugly. It contains these codecs (64-
bit version installed here):

/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgsta52dec.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstamrnb.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstamrwbdec.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstasf.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcdio.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdlpcmdec.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdread.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdsub.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstiec958.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlame.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmad.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmpeg2dec.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmpegaudioparse.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmpegstream.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstrmdemux.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgsttwolame.so
/usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstx264.so

I think you need the libgstlame.so codec. You might also ping the
clementine developers and ask them to give meaningful error messages
regarding missing plugins. They may ignore you or tell you to get lost,
but at least you've made your case.

BTW, clementine isn't the only media player that's sorely lacking in
the meaningful error message arena.
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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 05/04/2016 10:09 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

The '*' means "zero or more digits".  Don't forget that zero.
The first match is where there are zero digits, i.e. at the
beginning of the line.  So sed replaces it with "//" (nothing).

However, usually regexps are greedy so they match as much as possible, 
not the minimum.  And somehow it does work when you use /g so it is 
matching more.



Try sed 's/[0-9]*/X/' to confirm.

You really want sed 's/[0-9][0-9]*//'  which reads a digit
followed by zero or more additional digits.


Or use + as has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
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GREAT! f22 update of clementine ..,

2016-05-04 Thread Frank Elsner
... breaks mp3 playback!

After updating clementine on my F22 I've the same situation
as on my F23 systems: clementine complains about missing
  gstreamer plugin when trying to play mp3!

And it doensn't tell me the name of the missing plugin!

I'm really pissed off.


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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 03:44:26PM +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> People,
> 
> This behaves as expected:
> 
>   echo 'This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]*//g'
> 
> but I would expect this:
> 
>   echo 'This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]*//'
> 
> to delete the first string of digits but it doesn't do anything . .
> clarification from a sed guru?
> 

The '*' means "zero or more digits".  Don't forget that zero.
The first match is where there are zero digits, i.e. at the
beginning of the line.  So sed replaces it with "//" (nothing).

Try sed 's/[0-9]*/X/' to confirm.

You really want sed 's/[0-9][0-9]*//'  which reads a digit
followed by zero or more additional digits.

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Re: clementine, mp3, gstreamer (F23)

2016-05-04 Thread Richard Shaw
Ok, following the dependency chain here...

$ rpm -q --requires clementine | grep gstreamer
gstreamer-plugins-good
libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit)

So it uses the gstreamer not gstreamer1 packages...

$ sudo dnf repoquery --whatprovides "libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit)"
Local Packages for Fedora 23 51 MB/s | 172 kB 00:00
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:01 ago on Wed May  4 07:38:00 2016.
gstreamer-0:0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64

Played around with various incarnations of rpm -q/dnf repoquery and got to
this:

]$ rpm -q --whatprovides
"gstreamer0.10(decoder-audio/mpeg)(mpegversion=1)(layer=3)()(64bit)"
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-18.fc23.x86_64

So it looks like you have the correct package installed. I only recently
changed over to clementine and most of my collection is in ogg but I'm sure
I've played some of my MP3's by now.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: liveusb-creator gone?

2016-05-04 Thread Tim
Martin Bříza:
>> So if you guys agree "reformatting" would be a better choice, I'll
>> go ahead and change the text.

Matthew Miller:
> I guess my inclination would be to just drop this feature entirely. If
> people want to reformat the drive, they can use whatever regular OS
> feature to do it. This doesn't need to be a general-purpose drive
> utility.

I think reformat (entire device) is useful, something like that would be
a self-descriptive term.  Since, as others point out, you can have a
multi-partitioned USB device, and dealing with that can be less than
obvious without using partitioning software.

While it would be nice to not need another utility, but Fedora makes
reformatting things like external drives harder than other OSs, where
you can right-click and format a USB drive from the desktop, so I think
we do need it.  Likewise with renaming drives/partitions (Fedora doesn't
let you do it easily, particularly DOS/Windows ones).

Yes, I understand the point of making these an admin/wheel-group
restriction, but that ought to be do-able from a right-click and
reformat option, not requiring another program to do the job, just
pop-up an authentication prompt.

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Re: OT - but of relevance!! Secret Open Source - Is this legal

2016-05-04 Thread Andras Simon
2016-05-04 11:19 GMT+02:00, Neil Thompson :
> I'd be a little worried about ransomeware with wine - I remember a virus
> some years ago which did ugly stuff to excel files (IIRC), and it came in
> through wine and trashed stuff in my $HOME.  All my wine stuff now is done
> in sandboxes.

I am a little worried about ransomware _without_ wine. Hopefully, only
out of sheer ignorance.

Andras
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Re: OT - but of relevance!! Secret Open Source - Is this legal

2016-05-04 Thread Neil Thompson
I'd be a little worried about ransomeware with wine - I remember a virus
some years ago which did ugly stuff to excel files (IIRC), and it came in
through wine and trashed stuff in my $HOME.  All my wine stuff now is done
in sandboxes.

On 3 May 2016 at 18:40, Niels Kobschaetzki  wrote:

> On 16/05/03 15:08, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/16, jd1008  wrote:
>>
>> How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will
 suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into
 windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after
 all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean
 that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in
 Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of
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>>> If linux is the guest on windows,  there is no guarantee
>>> that the virus will not be able to infect the machine emulator.
>>> and whatever is running on top of emulator.
>>>
>>
> Afaik it doesn't run in an emulator but more like wine. But I still do
> not get why that would expose Linux itself to a greater thread? That's
> still a Windows-machine getting infected. You mean like a virus, worm
> whatever would be injected into the binaries and then break into
> Linux-systems and infect them…like in the movies? oO
>
> So will Fedora be removing WINE too? Because that allows win32 code to
>> run on Linux...
>> *sarcasm*
>>
>
> Hm wine…I wonder what ransomware executed with wine would do…
>
> Niels
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clementine, mp3, gstreamer (F23)

2016-05-04 Thread Frank Elsner

Hello community,

as mentioned earlier the upgrade from Fedora 22 to Fedora 23 went smoothly.

But my favourite music player "clementine" refuses to play mp3 due to a missing 
gstreamer plugin.

The following gstreamer plugins are installed

gstreamer-0.10.36-13.fc23.i686
gstreamer1-1.6.4-1.fc23.i686
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.6.4-1.fc23.i686
gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.6.4-1.fc23.i686
gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.6.4-1.fc23.i686
gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-29.fc23.i686
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-13.fc23.i686
gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-7.fc23.i686
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31-15.fc23.i686
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-18.fc23.i686
gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-13.fc23.i686

Which one is missing? Are there conflicting plugins?
Any changes related to plugins since Fedora 22?


Kind regards, Frank Elsner
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RE: Fedora 23: Wayland problems

2016-05-04 Thread David Aldrich
Thanks for your help. I was able to add a higher VGA resolution using the link 
you provided:

xrandr --newmode "1680x1050_60.00"  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 
1089 -hsync +vsync
 xrandr --addmode VGA-1 1680x1050_60.00
 xrandr --output VGA-1 --mode 1680x1050_60.00

Best regards

David

> -Original Message-
> From: Egor Zaharov [mailto:nexfw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 03 May 2016 17:17
> To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: Fedora 23: Wayland problems
> 
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:14 PM, David Aldrich
>  wrote:
> > So, is there a way to make the system support 1680 x 1050 on VGA on
> > the current setup?
> You can try this: [1].
> 
> > Or is there a way to rollback the updates applied last Friday so that
> > I can make Wayland work properly again?
> You can use `dnf history list` to list your recent package manager activity, 
> if you
> used dnf to do the update what broken your setup.
> Then take the transaction number from the first column, and use `dnf history
> info ${NUM}` to view which packages was updated, and which versions was
> before that update. You could try to do the `dnf history undo ${NUM}`, but 
> this
> might not work because of unavailability of needed packages.
> 
> Find these previous versions on [2], download the rpms, and install them from
> the Terminal, using `dnf downgrade ./*.rpm`.
> 
> [1]:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
> [2]: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/
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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread Nohk Two
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On 2016/5/4 15:50, dwoody5654 wrote:
> On 05/04/2016 12:44 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
>> People,
>> 
>> This behaves as expected:
>> 
>> echo 'This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed
>> 's/[0-9]*//g'
>> 
>> but I would expect this:
>> 
>> echo 'This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]*//'
>> 
>> to delete the first string of digits but it doesn't do anything .
>> . clarification from a sed guru?
> [0-9]* means zero or more digits. [0-9][0-9]* would be one or more
> digits
> 
> David
Then the command line would be
echo 'This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]\+//'
to remove the first string of digits.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Phil.
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Re: sed regex oddness

2016-05-04 Thread dwoody5654

On 05/04/2016 12:44 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

People,

This behaves as expected:

  echo 'This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]*//g'

but I would expect this:

  echo 'This is a test 12335 and 669384 535xy4' | sed 's/[0-9]*//'

to delete the first string of digits but it doesn't do anything . . 
clarification from a sed guru?

[0-9]* means zero or more digits. [0-9][0-9]* would be one or more digits

David


Thanks,

Phil.

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[389-users] Re: Erasing and rewriting 389

2016-05-04 Thread Charlie Mordant
Hi Patrick,

dc=dn,dc=tld entry is usually created while calling that setup-ds-admin.pl
script (which is delivered with FDS), it's totally working on a new fresh
install, but not after a complete erase then reinstall: this was purpose of
the original question.

Regards,

2016-04-26 23:28 GMT+02:00 Patrick M. Landry :

> Well, I am far from an expert but if the directory server is working
> properly
> then your scripts have to create your DIT. If you are running a script to
> create
> the dc=tld,dc=dn entry and it is not being created there must be some error
> there.
>
>
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> *From: *"Charlie Mordant" 
> *To: *"General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project." <
> 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:59:28 AM
> *Subject: *[389-users] Re: Erasing and rewriting 389
>
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> Yes, my script does the exact inverse of the procedure.
>
> I didn't see any error while reinstalling, setup-ds-admin.pl says that
> all is right...
>
> Regards
> Le 25 avr. 2016 23:35, "Patrick M. Landry" 
> a écrit :
>
>> That's pretty much the steps I follow to completely remove
>> a 389 DS installation.
>>
>> I presume your "existing scripts" attempt to recreate your DIT. Do they
>> produce any error messages?
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Charlie Mordant" 
>> *To: *"General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project." <
>> 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> *Sent: *Monday, April 25, 2016 3:51:28 PM
>> *Subject: *[389-users] Erasing and rewriting 389
>>
>> Hi Laposte experts (French national mailing delivery)!
>>
>> I'm trying some experiments some simple things on 389 ds.
>> I've an existing 389 installation, with some users, groups and acls (on
>> fedora 21), and I'm trying to uninstall, erase my existing ldap to
>> reinstall it.
>>
>> So my script is:
>> * remove-ds-admin.pl -a -f -y
>> * service stop (dirsrv@myldap, dirsrv-admin)
>> * yum uninstall 389-*
>> * rm -rf /**dirsrv*/**
>> * then reinstalling with my existing script.
>>
>> As it looks like a nice thing, it seems that there's a catch: my
>> dc=tld,dc=dn subgroups are not created.
>>
>> Is there something somewhere that I should be aware to be able to remove
>> everything?
>>
>> ​Best regards,
>> Charlie​
>>
>>
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