Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-17 Thread Ted Roche
It's a problem with the entire website. There's a bad line of code in the
header:

 meta http-equiv=refresh content=0;url=https://getfedora.org;¬

which redirects everyone back to the main page. I've emailed the webmaster
with details.

BTW, you can use wget to download the page and find the links you need from
there. That's how I found the problem.


On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:


  When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second or
 two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be
 intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are all
 running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that
 page (and stay on it)?


 Jim Lewis



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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Lewis

 It's a problem with the entire website. There's a bad line of code in the
 header:

  meta http-equiv=refresh content=0;url=https://getfedora.org;¬

 which redirects everyone back to the main page. I've emailed the webmaster
 with details.

 BTW, you can use wget to download the page and find the links you need
 from
 there. That's how I found the problem.


 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:


  When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a second
 or
 two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks to be
 intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21), and are
 all
 running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone else get to that
 page (and stay on it)?


 Jim Lewis

Hi Ted,

  Yes, I had already used wget, that's why I said it looked intentional. I
was mainly trying to find the Fedora 21 full install DVD, but I now
understand that it is no longer provided.

Jim Lewis


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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-17 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 16, 2014 7:32 PM, Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:

 

   Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
 Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
 now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
 there by default before.


 Jim Lewis


Out of curiosity, what are you considering the default here?

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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-17 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:


  It's a problem with the entire website. There's a bad line of code in the
  header:
 

   Yes, I had already used wget, that's why I said it looked intentional. I
 was mainly trying to find the Fedora 21 full install DVD, but I now
 understand that it is no longer provided.


I got feedback from one of the fedora web people that this is an
intentional thing with the intent  to discourage the use of
fedoraproject.org in favor of getfedora.org as the primary website.

I think it could have been handled more gracefully.

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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Lewis

 On Dec 16, 2014 7:32 PM, Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:

 

   Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
 Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
 now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
 there by default before.


 Jim Lewis


 Out of curiosity, what are you considering the default here?

 --Pete


Hi Pete,

   Probably a poor choice of words on my part. By default to ME means
not having to install gcc, Java, LibreOffice, wget, strace, etc., and
fix things like Firefox associations (which I don't yet know how to
do). The installs of Fedora 1 through 14 made sense (didn't use 15 and
16 because of Gnome 3). Versions 17-20 made sense as well. It's
possible the Fedora-Server-inst ISO would have been what I wanted if it
hadn't failed during the install.

  I just had some good luck. Installed the RPM Fusion files and have xmms
working with mp3 files. Now to see if Flash is going to work ...


Jim Lewis


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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-17 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 17, 2014 3:10 PM, Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:


  On Dec 16, 2014 7:32 PM, Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:
 
  
 
Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
  Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
  now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
  there by default before.
 
 
  Jim Lewis
 
 
  Out of curiosity, what are you considering the default here?
 
  --Pete
 

 Hi Pete,

Probably a poor choice of words on my part. By default to ME means
 not having to install gcc, Java, LibreOffice, wget, strace, etc., and
 fix things like Firefox associations (which I don't yet know how to
 do). The installs of Fedora 1 through 14 made sense (didn't use 15 and
 16 because of Gnome 3). Versions 17-20 made sense as well. It's
 possible the Fedora-Server-inst ISO would have been what I wanted if it
 hadn't failed during the install.

   I just had some good luck. Installed the RPM Fusion files and have xmms
 working with mp3 files. Now to see if Flash is going to work ...


 Jim Lewis


Okay, I thought it might be something like that :)  There is of course no
'Jim' or 'Pete' package set on any install media, but I'll share a trick:
use the `show-installed` utility.  It can create a list of packages for you
to feed to yum after install, or create a kickstart format for use during
install.

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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-16 Thread Ondřej Majerech
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000
Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:

 
  When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a
 second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks
 to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21),
 and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone
 else get to that page (and stay on it)?
 
 
 Jim Lewis
 
 
 

Wow.

I can confirm that it does throw me to getfedora.org almost instantly.
I'm using Chromium on F20.

If you are looking to download a Fedora spin, this appears to work:
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-16 Thread Jim Lewis

 On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:10:27 -1000
 Jim Lewis j...@jklewis.com wrote:


  When I go to the above mentioned link I can see the page for a
 second or two, then it throws me into https://getfedora.org. It looks
 to be intentional. Happens on all my systems (including Fedora 21),
 and are all running relatively new versions of Firefox. Can anyone
 else get to that page (and stay on it)?

 Jim Lewis


 Wow.

 I can confirm that it does throw me to getfedora.org almost instantly.
 I'm using Chromium on F20.

 If you are looking to download a Fedora spin, this appears to work:
 https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

 ~ Ondra


  Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
there by default before.


Jim Lewis
512-797-3049
http://jklewis.com - my resume,  Java games, and link to book are here.
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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote:
   Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
 Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
 now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
 there by default before.

FWIW, the full (4.5GB) install DVD is no longer produced.  The closest you 
could come would be to use the net install ...

You can get that from this page...  https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/

It will then allow you to select your Base Environment and Add-ons.


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Re: Won't stay on this page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

2014-12-16 Thread Jim Lewis

 On 12/17/14 10:31, Jim Lewis wrote:
   Yes, when I couldn't find the full install DVD I settled for the
 Mate-Compiz spin and have been configuring it for the last few days. I
 now have to manually install a whole lot of packages that were just
 there by default before.

 FWIW, the full (4.5GB) install DVD is no longer produced.  The closest you
 could come would be to use the net install ...

 You can get that from this page...
 https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/

 It will then allow you to select your Base Environment and Add-ons.


  My actual steps were this:

 - Burn and install Fedora Workstation. Found it totally useless for me.

 - Burn and install Fedora-Server. Same thing, not even a GUI.

 - Burn and install Mate-Compiz. Not bad, at least close what I used to
get with a full install.

 - The Fedora-Server-inst ISO is mentioned (just like you have) so I find,
burn, and begin to install it. I am very happy, I can choose Mate, and it
looks like I am finally going to get a good install. I then get stopped
by Bug 1130550, which looks like something to do with httrack which I
think is in the Security package (not sure of my facts here). I
investigate, and attempt to install again this time without as many
Add-ons. The install goes a whole lot farther, but when I come back to
check on it the laptop is dead, except for the Caps Lock light which is
blinking about twice a second (never seen that before). I might assume
that the Screensaver came on causing this issue, but why that is not
disabled during an install just baffles me (along with a lot of these
other decisions).

   I had wiped out my Mate-Compiz install to try inst but since it
seemed to work I went back to it. Have a lot of it configured (I can
even scan, whooo h!), but keep running into missing packages and
features. I guess I took these things for granted with a full install.


Jim Lewis


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