Re: [Users] Timezone Hypervisor/VM

2014-02-07 Thread Markus Stockhausen
 Von: Dan Kenigsberg [dan...@redhat.com]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2014 19:43
 An: Bob; Martin Polednik
 Cc: Markus Stockhausen; ovirt-users
 Betreff: Re: [Users] Timezone Hypervisor/VM
 
 On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 12:46:38PM -0500, Bob wrote:
  I have the same issue. I have assumed it was a Windows configuration
  issue. I have relied on sync'ing to Internet Time upon each bootup.
  It would be nice to find a solution to this. My Windows VM
  consistently comes up exactly 5 hours off, and although NTP is
  configured the time is never corrected until I manually sync to
  Internet Time. It certainly appears to be using the wrong TZ (GMT).
 
 I suppose you are seeing
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=956741 When RHEL VMs are
 powered off/on time is off by as much as 3 hrs when system comes
 back up
 
 which http://gerrit.ovirt.org/14750 should fix. Which ovirt version are
 you using? Would you agree to verify the patch once Martin backports it?
 
 Dan.

I implemented the above patch on one of our hypervisor nodes. But this
does not change anything. The VM has always the time difference after reboot
that is set in table vm_dynamic.

We are on GMT+1. if utc_diff = 0 Windows VM time is on hour back. If
utc_diff = 3600 Windows VM time matches.

Should I file a new BZ?

Markus


 -Bob

 On 2/6/2014 11:39 AM, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 all my searching/reading left me more confused. My current problem is
 a Windows VM that has a wrong timezone - at least if I do not activate
 internet time server sync.
 
 Settings are:
 
 - OVirt VM definition - First Run GMT+1 - thats ok
 - hypervisor host: timezone CET (= GMT+1) - 18:00 - thats ok
 - Windows VM: timezone CET ( = GMT+1) - 17:00 - thats wrong
 
 I got a thread that suggested to look at vm_dynamic. There we have:
 
 select a.vm_name,b.utc_diff from vm_static a, vm_dynamic b
 engine-# where a.vm_guid=b.vm_guid;
   vm_name  | utc_diff
 --+--
   Win7x64_Master   |0
 
 But what should that tell me?
 
 Although we work with timeservers inside the VMs we want to ensure
 that even without them the VM time should match the hypervisor time.
 
 Has anyone a simple and clear explanation how this should work.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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[Users] [ANN] oVirt 3.4.0 beta2 is now available

2014-02-07 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
The oVirt team is pleased to announce that the 3.4.0 second beta release is now 
available for testing.

Release notes and information on the changes for this update are still being 
worked on and will be available soon on the wiki[1].
Please ensure to follow install instruction from release notes if you're going 
to test it.
The existing repository ovirt-3.4.0-prerelease has been updated for delivering 
this beta and future refreshes until release candidate.

A new oVirt Node build will be available soon as well.

You're welcome to join us testing this beta release in next week test day [2] 
scheduled for 2014-02-11!


[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.4.0_release_notes
[2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.4_Test_Day

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Re: [Users] Timezone Hypervisor/VM

2014-02-07 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:01:11AM +, Markus Stockhausen wrote:
  Von: Dan Kenigsberg [dan...@redhat.com]
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2014 19:43
  An: Bob; Martin Polednik
  Cc: Markus Stockhausen; ovirt-users
  Betreff: Re: [Users] Timezone Hypervisor/VM
  
  On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 12:46:38PM -0500, Bob wrote:
   I have the same issue. I have assumed it was a Windows configuration
   issue. I have relied on sync'ing to Internet Time upon each bootup.
   It would be nice to find a solution to this. My Windows VM
   consistently comes up exactly 5 hours off, and although NTP is
   configured the time is never corrected until I manually sync to
   Internet Time. It certainly appears to be using the wrong TZ (GMT).
  
  I suppose you are seeing
  
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=956741 When RHEL VMs are
  powered off/on time is off by as much as 3 hrs when system comes
  back up
  
  which http://gerrit.ovirt.org/14750 should fix. Which ovirt version are
  you using? Would you agree to verify the patch once Martin backports it?
  
  Dan.
 
 I implemented the above patch on one of our hypervisor nodes. But this
 does not change anything. The VM has always the time difference after reboot
 that is set in table vm_dynamic.

That patch is not intended to change this fact. What it should do is
report a correct timeOffset once your guest OS syncs its time.
 
 We are on GMT+1. if utc_diff = 0 Windows VM time is on hour back. If
 utc_diff = 3600 Windows VM time matches.
 
 Should I file a new BZ?

I'd prefer to make sure we have all the facts first. Would you boot your
VM, and report the vmCreate line from vdsm.log?
The, fix the timezone withing the guest, and report the rtc events from
the log, and the timeOffset reported by `vdsClient -s 0 getAllVmStats`.
Stop the VM and check if Engine's utc_diff has changed.

A detailed BZ report is worth its weight in gold ;-)

Dan.
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Re: [Users] vdsm netinfo fails errors with InfiniBand present

2014-02-07 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 07:20:20PM -0600, Trey Dockendorf wrote:
 I am seeing lots of entries like the one below on my ovirt nodes that
 have InfiniBand (ib0).
 
 Thread-13::ERROR::2014-02-06 19:03:52,906::netinfo::301::root::(speed)
 cannot read ib0 speed
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/vdsm/netinfo.py, line 297, in 
 speed
 s = int(speedFile.read())
 IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
 
 I'm seeing related entries in system's syslog.
 
 Feb  6 18:58:31 vm02 vdsm root ERROR cannot read ib0
 speed#012Traceback (most recent call last):#012  File
 /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/vdsm/netinfo.py, line 297, in
 speed#012s = int(speedFile.read())#012IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid
 argument
 
 The file being read exists but I can't cat it.
 
 # cat /sys/class/net/ib0/speed
 cat: /sys/class/net/ib0/speed: Invalid argument
 
 Attached is full vdsm log.
 
 Host is CentOS 6.5.  I just upgraded host from 3.3.2 to 3.3.3 and the
 errors are the same.

I do not know it it's comforting, but http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/21542/
inadvertantly fixes this issue in ovirt-3.4.

Would you check if
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/24197
solves this issue for ovirt-3.3?

BTW, Itzik, do you know why speed is not reported for infiniband?

Regards,
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[Users] translate the project ovirt-docs, need your help

2014-02-07 Thread 适兕
Hi:
oVirt users.

I just create a translate project ovirt-docs from zanata.org.
the URL:
https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/project/view/ovirt-docscid=117680

I just can translate to Chinese, So, I need your help.

next I will to do blow things:
0、change ovirt-docs zanata.xml in gerrit
1、upload jp and zh-TW .

   Thanks.



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Re: [Users] Unable to activate iSCSI domain after crash of host

2014-02-07 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Dafna Ron  wrote:
 what does multipath get?

 I am not sure which table the chap will be saved in.
 try to list teh db tables - there are not that many for storage so it should
 he easy to find.


there is yet the historical warning about getuid_callout not valid
any more for fedora based distro...
but if I remember well should not be of influence in output apart the
warnings, correct?

[root@ovnode03 ~]# multipath -ll
Feb 07 14:09:49 | multipath.conf +5, invalid keyword: getuid_callout
Feb 07 14:09:49 | multipath.conf +18, invalid keyword: getuid_callout

I'm going to check rdbms tables too...

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[Users] Opaque oVirt/RHEV/Proxmox client and source code released

2014-02-07 Thread i iordanov
Hello!

Apologies for the cross-post.

I've released Opaque into production on Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.undatech.opaque

and on Blackberry World for devices running Blackberry OS 10.2.1 or newer:
http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/46004889

The source code is now part of the renamed (formerly bVNC) repository:
https://github.com/iiordanov/remote-desktop-clients

The old name of the repository links to the new one. I didn't think it's a
good idea to keep calling it bVNC given that it already contains code to
build 4 different remote desktop clients.

If you are an oVirt or RHEV admin, please ensure that Opaque works in your
environment before recommending it to your users. Please start by reading
the KNOWN ISSUES section in the description of the application.

Thanks for all the feedback I received from the beta test community! I will
still be releasing new features to be beta-tested before pushing them to
production.

Sincerely,
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Re: [Users] Timezone Hypervisor/VM

2014-02-07 Thread Markus Stockhausen

 A detailed BZ report is worth its weight in gold ;-)
 
 Dan.

Opened BZ 1062615 for that.

Markus

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Re: [Users] ETL service sampling

2014-02-07 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/07/2014 02:56 PM, Kevin Tibi wrote:

Hi all,

since I upgraded my plateforme in 3.5, i have a error message in
ovirt-engine :

Images intégrées 1

I don't find anything about this ELT service.

thx ;)

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Re: [Users] Unable to activate iSCSI domain after crash of host

2014-02-07 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:


 I'm going to check rdbms tables too...

 Gianluca

it seems that the table is storage_server_connections

but the value seems (correctly in my opinion) encrypted... how can I
update it eventually?

engine=# select * from storage_server_connections ;
  id  |  connection
  | user_name |

  password

  |   iqn   |
port | portal | storage_type | mount_options | vfs_type  | nfs_version
|
 nfs_timeo | nfs_retrans
--+--+---+
--
--
--+-+--++--+---+---+-+
---+-


 6a5b159d-4c11-43cc-aa09-55c325de47b3 | 192.168.230.101
  | ovirt |
lf1mtw6jWq0tcO/jBeLtSdrx9WSMvLOJxMF/Z4UWsgK
W10jYKXzkxG8iPgX9xMEcOhTJCeMNtC6EQES5Tq0MjHGPfuzigwL9nejZEZwtDvOFmKZtCBSGaKoOyjQpU8hfoqq7u47jvGE5VmVwDQ40p6goXWDHMWPxdCk2IzAOBsDlsnrJGmqLioRDj
JQVya28cJsgzGoaLFHZMQD8bfW7ay3cQ6k8Hxlz99MKNpxxoV0fju1Blpfrqpa2bCSpQ5w0PrVHmJrW4eiBEd/Rg/XV497PGatAcwQr7hD5/uG/GLoqBbCMyR9S11Ot90aprL0Gd9cOlM4
VngzCD/2JqFmvhA== | iqn.2013-09.local.localdomain:c6iscsit.target11 |
3260 | 1  |3 |   |   |
|
   |

Gianluca
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Re: [Users] Unable to activate iSCSI domain after crash of host

2014-02-07 Thread Dafna Ron

what happens when you try to update from the UI? (edit the storage)

On 02/07/2014 02:06 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:


I'm going to check rdbms tables too...

Gianluca

it seems that the table is storage_server_connections

but the value seems (correctly in my opinion) encrypted... how can I
update it eventually?

engine=# select * from storage_server_connections ;
   id  |  connection
   | user_name |

   password

   |   iqn   |
port | portal | storage_type | mount_options | vfs_type  | nfs_version
|
  nfs_timeo | nfs_retrans
--+--+---+
--
--
--+-+--++--+---+---+-+
---+-


  6a5b159d-4c11-43cc-aa09-55c325de47b3 | 192.168.230.101
   | ovirt |
lf1mtw6jWq0tcO/jBeLtSdrx9WSMvLOJxMF/Z4UWsgK
W10jYKXzkxG8iPgX9xMEcOhTJCeMNtC6EQES5Tq0MjHGPfuzigwL9nejZEZwtDvOFmKZtCBSGaKoOyjQpU8hfoqq7u47jvGE5VmVwDQ40p6goXWDHMWPxdCk2IzAOBsDlsnrJGmqLioRDj
JQVya28cJsgzGoaLFHZMQD8bfW7ay3cQ6k8Hxlz99MKNpxxoV0fju1Blpfrqpa2bCSpQ5w0PrVHmJrW4eiBEd/Rg/XV497PGatAcwQr7hD5/uG/GLoqBbCMyR9S11Ot90aprL0Gd9cOlM4
VngzCD/2JqFmvhA== | iqn.2013-09.local.localdomain:c6iscsit.target11 |
3260 | 1  |3 |   |   |
|
|

Gianluca



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Re: [Users] ELT service sampling

2014-02-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Kevin,

On 02/07/2014 01:56 PM, Kevin Tibi wrote:
 since I upgraded my plateforme in 3.5, i have a error message in
 ovirt-engine :
 
 Images intégrées 1
 
 I don't find anything about this ELT service.

You are using ovirt-engine-dwh?

ETL = Extract, Transform, Load - it's a common business intelligence
acronym.

oVirt builds its stats  data warehouse model on top of JasperReports. I
don't know which ETL engine it uses (maybe Talend or Kettle?).

Cheers,
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Re: [Users] [ANN] oVirt 3.4.0 beta2 is now available

2014-02-07 Thread Markus Stockhausen
 Von: users-boun...@ovirt.org [users-boun...@ovirt.org]quot; im Auftrag von 
 quot;Sandro Bonazzola [sbona...@redhat.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Februar 2014 11:36
 An: annou...@ovirt.org; Users@ovirt.org; engine-devel; arch; VDSM Project 
 Development
 Betreff: [Users] [ANN] oVirt 3.4.0 beta2 is now available
 
 The oVirt team is pleased to announce that the 3.4.0 second beta release is 
 now available for testing.
 
 Release notes and information on the changes for this update are still being 
 worked on and will be available soon on the wiki[1].
 Please ensure to follow install instruction from release notes if you're 
 going to test it.
 The existing repository ovirt-3.4.0-prerelease has been updated for 
 delivering this beta and future refreshes until release candidate.
 
 A new oVirt Node build will be available soon as well.
 
 You're welcome to join us testing this beta release in next week test day [2] 
 scheduled for 2014-02-11!
 
 
 [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.4.0_release_notes
 [2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.4_Test_Day
 
 --
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Hello Sandro,

may I politely ask to set BZ 1062615 for target release 3.4.0 - and as a 
blocker too?
Dan's information suggest that it is still existent in 3.4.0 beta2. Maybe 
someone can
proove it in a beta environment too and update the bug.

It seems as if Ovirt does not remember timezone/clock settings of a Windows VM.
As a side effect a VM may always come up with a predefined time gap until the
the ntp client wil fix the time. If that gap is too large we could suffer from 
some
unwanted side effects

- ntp time sync may not work because of too high gap
- kerberos authentication may fail because of too high gap

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[Users] Best way to request a new feature?

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Doolittle

What's the best way to request a new feature?

Do we manage a Wiki page for this somewhere? Or should I just open a 
bug/rfe?


The feature I'd like to see:

It would be nice if the Admin page had an indication either on the VMs 
page or in the left navigation frame when everything is in place for 
starting VMs.


Here's an example scenario to illustrate why this would be useful:

Every morning I power up my Engine and Host machines. The first thing I 
have to do is Activate my Host, and then monitor it while it comes up, 
Contends and eventually assumes SPM responsibility. Then I can change to 
the tab with my VMs and start up the one(s) I need, and open their consoles.


But I have to watch the Host tab until SPM is established, because when 
looking at the VMs page there's no indication whether they can be 
started up yet or not. Nothing unless I try to start one, and get a 
pop-up error.


Additional useful features:

Is there any way to cause a VM to automatically power on as soon as 
oVirt is ready to do so?
Is there any way to cause a console to automatically open up as soon as 
a VM is started?


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[Users] Very bad write performance in VM (ovirt 3.3.3)

2014-02-07 Thread ml ml
Hello List,

i set up a Cluster with 2 Nodes and Glusterfs.


gluster volume info all

Volume Name: Repl2
Type: Replicate
Volume ID: 8af9b282-8b60-4d71-a0fd-9116b8fdcca7
Status: Started
Number of Bricks: 1 x 2 = 2
Transport-type: tcp
Bricks:
Brick1: node1.local:/data
Brick2: node2.local:/data
Options Reconfigured:
auth.allow: *
user.cifs: enable
nfs.disable: off


I turned node2 off. Just to make sure i have not network bottle neck and
that it will not replicate for my first benchmarks.


My first test with bonnie on my local raw disk of node1 gave me 130MB/sec
write speed.
Then i did the same test on my cluster dir /data: 130MB/sec
Then i did the write test in a freshly installed Debian 7 vm: 10MB/sec

This is terrible and i wonder why?!

My tests where made with:
bonnie++ -u root -s double mem) -d dir

Here are my bonnie results: http://oi62.tinypic.com/20aara0.jpg


Since node2 is turned off, this cant be a network bottle neck.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: [Users] NAT configuration

2014-02-07 Thread Douglas Schilling Landgraf

On 02/07/2014 03:53 PM, martin.tru...@cspq.gouv.qc.ca wrote:

No, it does not work indeed.

I cannot find the username in step 3.
I found the password in Step 4: shibboleth.


Try username: vdsm@ovirt



On step 18 it does not work because I cannot access the posgresql database.


You could do:

# vi /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf
local   allpostgres trust

- Restart postgresql

Please let us know if it works.

Thanks!




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De : Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Envoyé : 5 février 2014 01:50
À : Trudel, Martin (CELL); users@ovirt.org
Objet : Re: [Users] NAT configuration

On 02/04/2014 09:20 PM, martin.tru...@cspq.gouv.qc.ca wrote:

Hi,

I want to configure NAT in Ovirt with this procedure :
*http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-April/001751.html

But *I *don*'t have the login password of virsh and for the PosgreSQL
database.

I used the last version of oVirt with default installation with
engine-setup


the steps described don't work for you as is?
(step 6 explains where the user/password for libvirt/virsh are. the db part 
should just work as-is if you are using root (at least it used to)



Thanks.
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Re: [Users] Best way to request a new feature?

2014-02-07 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/07/2014 07:36 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:

What's the best way to request a new feature?

Do we manage a Wiki page for this somewhere? Or should I just open a
bug/rfe?

The feature I'd like to see:

It would be nice if the Admin page had an indication either on the VMs
page or in the left navigation frame when everything is in place for
starting VMs.

Here's an example scenario to illustrate why this would be useful:

Every morning I power up my Engine and Host machines. The first thing I
have to do is Activate my Host, and then monitor it while it comes up,
Contends and eventually assumes SPM responsibility. Then I can change to
the tab with my VMs and start up the one(s) I need, and open their
consoles.

But I have to watch the Host tab until SPM is established, because when
looking at the VMs page there's no indication whether they can be
started up yet or not. Nothing unless I try to start one, and get a
pop-up error.

Additional useful features:

Is there any way to cause a VM to automatically power on as soon as
oVirt is ready to do so?
Is there any way to cause a console to automatically open up as soon as
a VM is started?

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Re: [Users] NAT configuration

2014-02-07 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/07/2014 10:56 PM, martin.tru...@cspq.gouv.qc.ca wrote:

Can you tell me the procedure to install and configure the vdsm-hook-extnet ?


for general hook information:
http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks
http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks_Catalogue

for this specific hook:
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=vdsm.git;a=blob;f=vdsm_hooks/extnet/README;h=0778dbb3ef85c5ae179fb0f6c9ceeabc268abe89;hb=HEAD



-Message d'origine-
De : Dan Kenigsberg [mailto:dan...@redhat.com]
Envoyé : 5 février 2014 08:02
À : Trudel, Martin (CELL)
Cc : users@ovirt.org
Objet : Re: [Users] NAT configuration

On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 08:20:26PM +, martin.tru...@cspq.gouv.qc.ca wrote:

Hi,

I want to configure NAT in Ovirt with this procedure :
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-April/001751.html

But I don't have the login password of virsh and for the PosgreSQL database.

I used the last version of oVirt with default installation with
engine-setup


Note that now it is possible to use vdsm-hook-extnet instead of changing 
Engine's database (step 12 and forth). You do not have your NAT network defined 
in oVirt, but you can define a vNIC Profile with the property
extnet=natbr0 and whatever network you have defined (say ovirtmgmt).

When you attach a vnic of a VM to your vNIC profile and start the VM, the hook 
script kicks into action and points the vnic to natbr0.

Dan.

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Re: [Users] Best way to request a new feature?

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Doolittle

Thanks.

I decided the first issue is really a bug. There should really be a 
different VM indication for:

- Powered down, vs
- System not ready to start up VMs
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062745

I realize this is one of those gray areas of This behavior is by 
design while the severity of this makes it more like a flaw than a 
missing feature I think. You can watch the VM tab forever during oVirt 
host startup and never know when the VMs are actually ready to start up.


I opened an RFE for auto-starting VMs once oVirt becomes ready, and 
auto-opening consoles for VMs at startup:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062740

In theory this could be separated into two RFEs.

Thanks,
   Bob

On 02/07/2014 04:16 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/07/2014 07:36 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:

What's the best way to request a new feature?

Do we manage a Wiki page for this somewhere? Or should I just open a
bug/rfe?

The feature I'd like to see:

It would be nice if the Admin page had an indication either on the VMs
page or in the left navigation frame when everything is in place for
starting VMs.

Here's an example scenario to illustrate why this would be useful:

Every morning I power up my Engine and Host machines. The first thing I
have to do is Activate my Host, and then monitor it while it comes up,
Contends and eventually assumes SPM responsibility. Then I can change to
the tab with my VMs and start up the one(s) I need, and open their
consoles.

But I have to watch the Host tab until SPM is established, because when
looking at the VMs page there's no indication whether they can be
started up yet or not. Nothing unless I try to start one, and get a
pop-up error.

Additional useful features:

Is there any way to cause a VM to automatically power on as soon as
oVirt is ready to do so?
Is there any way to cause a console to automatically open up as soon as
a VM is started?

-Bob

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Re: [Users] Best way to request a new feature?

2014-02-07 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/07/2014 11:41 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:


I opened an RFE for auto-starting VMs once oVirt becomes ready, and
auto-opening consoles for VMs at startup:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062740

In theory this could be separated into two RFEs.


i suggest opening as separate items, different logic and place of 
implementation probably


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Re: [Users] Best way to request a new feature?

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Doolittle


On 02/07/2014 04:46 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/07/2014 11:41 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:


I opened an RFE for auto-starting VMs once oVirt becomes ready, and
auto-opening consoles for VMs at startup:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062740

In theory this could be separated into two RFEs.


i suggest opening as separate items, different logic and place of 
implementation probably




Thanks.

RFE Auto-start VM at oVirt ready: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062740


RFE Auto-open console at VM startup: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062751


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Re: [Users] SPICE behind NAT

2014-02-07 Thread Alan Murrell

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the reply.

Quoting Andrew Lau and...@andrewklau.com:


Just install squid proxy and port forward the 3128 port through your
firewall you should be all good.


Is squid installed on your oVirt box or is it on your firewall? Or did  
ypu srtup a seperate box ad the proxy? What you post above suggests  
you installed it in the oVirt machine?



Here's a quick snippet from my notes:

[snip]


engine-config -s SpiceProxyDefault=http://public_ip_address:3128/


Ah, so the IP I put is the *public* IP on the firewall (or at least  
the one I am connecting to), and not the private IP of the machine  
Squid is installed on?


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Re: [Users] oVirt or RHEV ?

2014-02-07 Thread René Koch

Hi Nathanaël,

Imho you need a lot of manpower to make this happen.

You have to remove all Red Hat trademarks if you want to distribute it - 
this means remove it from RHEV-manager (engine), RHEV-H (node-image) and 
all Windows tools (e.g. USB policy editor, RHEV tools,...) so you not 
only need CentOS 6 build servers, but also Windows ones.


Next you should have to support each release for 3 years which means in 
2 years you maybe have to build packages for 3-6 RHEV releases - again 
takes a lot of time. Even if you can automate fetching, building and 
testing you still have to test it manually, too.


I'm unsure if someone would do this work. Just speaking for me and the 
company I work for - RHEV and oVirt is working fine for us, so I 
wouldn't see much benefit of repackaging RHEV. Contributing to oVirt 
project with Nagios plugins, presentations, meetups,... makes more sense 
for us. Again just speaking about us, but I think other companies think 
in a same way...



Regards,
René


On 07.02.2014 10:33, Nathanaël Blanchet wrote:

Hi everybody,

We could consider a third way : why not building RHEV from SRPMs since 
redhat provides them on ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhev-m/3.x/SRPMS/ 
? this can be a compromise between stability of rhev and ovirt free of 
charge.

I'm surprised that nobody has got this idea before.

Le 06/02/2014 19:53, René Koch a écrit :

Hi Martijn,

That's a good question and not too easy to answer.
I work as a Solution Architect and my company is selling both - RHEV and
oVirt consulting and support. The reason for doing both is, that we want
to give users a choice which solution fits better.

The main benefits (in my opinion) of RHEV are:

- Support with SLAs
Red Hat provides support for RHEV with service levels. For oVirt you
have to wait until someone of the developers or community members helps
you on the mailing list or in IRC (or you buy support from a company
with provides it).

- Updates for each release for 3 years
You receive for all releases (RHEV 3.1, 3.2,...) 3 years of support and
updates. oVirt provides bugfix releases for the actual release (so you
want get bugfix updates for 3.2 anymore, you have to upgrade to 3.3).
For me this is the biggest advantage of RHEV.

- Red Hat Knowledge Base
Red Hat Knowledge Base is one of the best knowledge bases and it helps
you greatly solving issues and gives useful tips. I use the knowledge
base a lot and wouldn't want to miss it for any Red Hat product.

- Stability
RHEV is tested by a qa team and the releases are really stable. oVirt
has newer features which are less tested. I upgrade oVirt release only
to .1 releases (e.g. 3.2.x - 3.3.1), not to .0 to avoid issues.

- Guest agents
Guest agents and RHEV tools are packaged for RHEL and Windows guests and
are working fine. When using oVirt you miss some of the functionality of
Windows guest tools or have to copy it from different locations. For
other os'es it doesn't matter if using RHEV or oVirt.

- Application / os support
You should consider if your applications and operating systems are
supported in oVirt as well. All apps certified for RHEL are certified
for RHEV as well.


Main benefits of oVirt:

- Newest features
oVirt gives you the latest and greatest. So it will take some time until
this feature is available in RHEV, too (due to testing).

- No subscription coasts
You don't have to buy subscriptions for an oVirt environment, so it
saves money. But on the other hand it can also cost you more money, if
you have to spend a lot of time in troubleshooting or with upgrading
(especially with possible upgrading issues) or having down times of your
environment.


It's not too easy to say if you should use RHEV or oVirt.
I hope I could help you making a decision with my explanations above.
You could also have both - a RHEV setup for production vms and an oVirt
setup for development and qa vms.


Regards,
René



On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 16:06 +0100, Martijn Grendelman wrote:

Hi,

This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm looking for input to form an
opinion on an oVirt or RHEV question within my company.

I have been running oVirt for about 5 months now, and I'm quite
comfortable with its features and maintenance procedures. We are now
planning to build a private virtualization cluster for hosting clients'
applications as well as our own. Some people in the company are
questioning whether we should buy RHEV, but at this point, I can't see
the benefits.

Can anyone on this list shed a light on when RHEV might be a better
choice than oVirt? What are the benefits? The trade-offs?

I am looking for pragmatic, real-world things, not marketing mumbo
jumbo. That, I can get from redhat.com ;-)

Best regards,
Martijn.
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Re: [Users] SPICE behind NAT

2014-02-07 Thread Andrew Lau
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Alan Murrell li...@murrell.ca wrote:

 Hi Andrew,

 Thanks for the reply.


 Quoting Andrew Lau and...@andrewklau.com:

  Just install squid proxy and port forward the 3128 port through your
 firewall you should be all good.


 Is squid installed on your oVirt box or is it on your firewall? Or did ypu
 srtup a seperate box ad the proxy? What you post above suggests you
 installed it in the oVirt machine?


Yup, I install squid on the oVirt engine as it was easier to setup and
configure. No point setting up a dedicated box just for the spice proxy
unless you need some strict policies.




  Here's a quick snippet from my notes:

 [snip]


btw the 172.16.0/24 addresses are the oVirt hosts.





  engine-config -s SpiceProxyDefault=http://public_ip_address:3128/


 Ah, so the IP I put is the *public* IP on the firewall (or at least the
 one I am connecting to), and not the private IP of the machine Squid is
 installed on?


Yup, this is the public IP address on the firewall.





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Re: [Users] SPICE behind NAT

2014-02-07 Thread Alan Murrell
I followed your notes, installing Squid on my oVirt server (I have an
all-in-one installation).  I set a port forward on our firewall for port
3128 to my oVirt server.

I logged into the User Portal and tried connecting to the console, but I
get Could not connect to graphic server (null).  Not sure if I have
overlooked something?

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Re: [Users] SPICE behind NAT

2014-02-07 Thread Andrew Lau
Lots of variables here:

- Can you connect to squid from your browser?
- Did you modify the squid.conf to match your setup? (dst addresses, etc).
- iptables?
- restarted engine?
- If you're using ovirt 3.4 make sure you set the cluster policy too


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Alan Murrell li...@murrell.ca wrote:

 I followed your notes, installing Squid on my oVirt server (I have an
 all-in-one installation).  I set a port forward on our firewall for port
 3128 to my oVirt server.

 I logged into the User Portal and tried connecting to the console, but I
 get Could not connect to graphic server (null).  Not sure if I have
 overlooked something?

 -Alan

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