How to get SA ...
Hello all, Included (in plain text) at the end of this message is the source of an e-mail that I received yesterday. Clearly SPAM and it looks like they did some kind of header injection kind of stuff from their end to get the e-mail on it's way. SA didn't recognize this as SPAM. What can be done to trap a message like this from going to the e-mail inbox? Thanks a lot.. and thanks in advance. Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED] --obvious spam follows-- Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from localhost (yadler.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.yadler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF709106 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at yadler.com Received: from mail.yadler.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (superneo.yadler.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id WwvayNWlduiX for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.yadler.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1AA03107; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:09 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on superneo.yadler.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_50,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HEAD_LONG autolearn=no version=3.1.7 Received: from mail.radiosuomipop.fi (metromedia1-hki.far-m.com [80.64.11.164]) by mail.yadler.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E69C106 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.radiosuomipop.fi (Postfix, from userid 33) id 16BE47B6; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:52:02 +0200 (EET) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Content-Transfer-Encoding:quoted-printable"@metromedia1-hki.far-m.com, "Content-Type:text/plain"@metromedia1-hki.far-m.com, "Subject:Never"@metromedia1-hki.far-m.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], "bcc:bitchesleftnut"@yahoo.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL
Parsing Email
Hello, I've a project that I'm needing to solve. Fax machines (for a client) have been replaced with the phone company's fax server that e-mails the incomming fax (.tif) images to a specific e-address at the clients place of business. Just so happens, the e-mail passes through a mail server that will inspect it for e-viri as well as run it through spamassassin before it forwards it onto their machine. That mail server that pre-processes the clients e-mail is a machine I administer. What I'd like to do... is capture the contents of these particular fax e-mails as its passing through the machine I administer and either: 1- copy the fax images (detach the images from e-mail messages) and store these images on that server (whether as a file or put into a database as a blob) 2- create a database record that will essentially catalog the incoming fax to associate a fax file image (or db blob ID) A- and also search a database for existing origination fax #'s so that the fax can be associated as to the right company that sent it. In this case.. the DB used is a MySQL database that exists on this particular machine as well. Now.. what I need help in understanding... is ... assuming that I can handle each e-mail separately as it comes through, how do I parse the e-mail (like the way Spamassassin does) to have the ability to pull the component parts from the e-mail (from:, subject:, and MIME-encapsulated fax image) in order to be able to use these pieces (somehow) for the customer care module. I'm well versed in PHP... I used to do a lot of perl (many moons ago) and I'd like to make this work without too awful much pain. I think ultimately, I'll probably let the normal copy of the e-mail go onto the customers destination. I'd cause an extra Cc: to go through a specific e-mail account on the server where anything that is delivered to this account is strained by this e-mail parsing program that'll split the e-mail up into it's pieces, and distribute/use the chunks it in a manner that I can manipulate it later in the process. Any help to point me in the right direction? Thanks a lot Tyler Nally
Re: How was this missed?
On Thursday 13 April 2006 11:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 10:39:29AM -0600, wrote: > >> Any idea how this one got through? > >> > >> body BRIAN_PHONE_NUMBERS > >> > /2.0.6.9.8.4.2.3.2.7|2.0.6.3.3.3.0.0.5.1|2.0.6.9.8.4.0.1.0.6|3.3.8.3.5.7 > .9|2.0.6.3.3.8.6.0.6.1|2.0.6 > >> .2.0.2.2.0.3.3/ There's a ruleset I use from: http://www.emtinc.net/includes/chickenpox.cf .. that checks for the d.i.f.f.e.r.e.n.t kinds of spacing like this... a lot of the spam that has those kinds of characteristics will have several of the CHICKENPOX_ rules that have fired positive. It checks for some 60+ different patterns.. describe J_CHICKENPOX_12 1alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_13 1alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_14 1alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_15 1alpha-pock-5alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_16 1alpha-pock-6alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_17 1alpha-pock-7alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_18 1alpha-pock-8alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_19 1alpha-pock-9alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_110 1alpha-pock-10alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_111 1alpha-pock-11alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_21 2alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_22 2alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_23 2alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_24 2alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_25 2alpha-pock-5alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_26 2alpha-pock-6alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_27 2alpha-pock-7alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_28 2alpha-pock-8alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_29 2alpha-pock-9alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_210 2alpha-pock-10alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_31 3alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_32 3alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_33 3alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_34 3alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_35 3alpha-pock-5alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_36 3alpha-pock-6alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_37 3alpha-pock-7alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_38 3alpha-pock-8alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_39 3alpha-pock-9alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_41 4alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_42 4alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_43 4alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_44 4alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_45 4alpha-pock-5alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_46 4alpha-pock-6alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_47 4alpha-pock-7alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_48 4alpha-pock-8alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_51 5alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_52 5alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_53 5alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_54 5alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_55 5alpha-pock-5alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_56 5alpha-pock-6alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_57 5alpha-pock-7alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_61 6alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_62 6alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_63 6alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_64 6alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_65 6alpha-pock-5alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_66 6alpha-pock-6alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_71 7alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_72 7alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_73 7alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_74 7alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_75 7alpha-pock-5alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_81 8alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_82 8alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_83 8alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_84 8alpha-pock-4alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_91 9alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_92 9alpha-pock-2alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_93 9alpha-pock-3alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_101 10alpha-pock-1alpha describe J_CHICKENPOX_102 10alpha-pock-2alpha -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED] 317-989-2028
Re: Which Operating Systems Do You Use and Why?
On Sunday 09 April 2006 15:20, mouss wrote: > No. white and black aren't colors. they are absence of colour:) Well... according to physics... it really depends on what is delivering the pigments... When you paint.. and you combine a bunch of colors.. the colors get darker and darker.. to the point where they'll eventually turn black if you add enough dark color... or you can use crayons, or sharpies, etc. Combine red, blue, and green colors using this and see if you end up with something very dark like black. When you combine light, three sources of mono-colored filtered light (like on a tv) or a three-lens projection tv or even three spotlights.. of red, blue, and green... project them onto the same spot.. and you have white. White happen when all spectrum of the visible light is reflected back into your eyes... technically white is *all colors* .. and we know that because a prism will do the reverse and split white light up in to the ROYGIBV spectrum of all visible light. Black .. is the non-color .. it happens when *no visible light* is reflected back to your eye. Like a darkened shaded room with no open windows to a bright outside world. It's black inside .. because there's a *void* of light. You illuminate a single light bulb or open the window.. what happens? The blackness/darkness flees and is replaced by light. Black is the same to White as Cold is to Heat. Black is a "void" of color. Cold is a "void" of heat. It's not so much that cold refrigerates and puts "cold/coolness" upon something resulting in in it being cooler ... but the way it does is by pulling the heat from item. Cold is literally anti-heat. Probably easier to think of as a temperature vacuum of sorts ... where it draws temperature away from an object. Now.. if you want to read something on the 'net that is absolutely hilarious... go out to google and search for "Dark Suckers" -or- maybe "Dark Sucker Bulbs"... it's hilarious about how lights work by "sucking dark" and how when a bulb gets full of enough "dark" they go out because they can no longer suck any more dark. If you don't think it's funny when you find it, then that's proof that I'm a geek and easily entertained. -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED] 317-989-2028
Re: Problem with Bayes learning
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 10:46 pm, you wrote: > I am new to spamassassin. Thank you so much for your help and Tyler too. Thanks.. I'm not the expert.. I just use it! > Bayes autolearn is enabled when I feed Bayes with the 1500 emails manually > using the "sa-learn" command. Does it cause the problem? I think that sa-learn... probably creates a lock file. Assuming that sa-learn exits normally, I would think that it'd remove the lock file when it's done. I assume that it works this way because when you're "sa-learn"-ing .. the auto-learn feature is unavailable for spamd to record the bayes tokens (I think) because it can't get a lock on the bayes structures to record them. Once sa-learn halts and removes the lock.. auto-learn should be available. > I also checked the Bayes database directory and found two stale lock files > "bayes.lock...". One is pretty old, almost 4 months and the other was > created during I feed bayes this time. Could I delete them? I'd say.. that you can toast the 4 month old one rather easily... Watch for when sa-learn finishes.. and you should see the newer lock file go away after it's completion. If it doesn't... then remove that one as well I don't think, in the normal operation of spamassassin.. if the auto-learn *write* to the bayes structure put's a lockfile on the bayes structures. At the same time... I've never explicitly watched the directory that bayes exists .. to see if a lock file appears quickly and disapppears just as fast when it's done. I do know.. that if I evoke *sa-learn*.. that a lockfile will exist while it's sa-learn'ing.. and then go away afterwards. While it's sa-learn'ing, I see the Spamassassin header tags show that autolearn is "unavailable" during this time because it knows it can't open up the bayes structures to write the tokens to it. -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Bayes learning
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 05:06 pm, Jonathan Nie wrote: > Greetings! > > I got a problem when I try to feed Bayes with large number of emails > (over 1500). It just hang there and I got the the following error > messages from maillog file: > > .bayes: cannot open bayes databases /spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock > failed: File exists > > Does anyone know how to fix it? The "bayes" section of my spamassassin setup in local.cf looks like this: #-- bayes_path /etc/mail/spamassassin/bayes/bayes bayes_file_mode 0777 use_bayes 1 #bayes_use_hapaxes 1 # Enable Bayes auto-learning bayes_auto_learn 1 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam0.1 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 9.0 #-- Which for me.. would mean that I'd cd to: /etc/mail/spamassassin/bayes .. and do a (as root): chmod 666 bayes* ... to allow anyprocess with access to those bayes files an opportunity to either open and read/write to it. Nobody else (that can login to the system) has access to the files on that file system so it should be safe (at least for me) to perform this and it not be a breach of security of some kind. I'm pretty sure that the owner/group of the bayes files are "spamd" so that it can access the files as it needs.. and when I run sa-learn to harvest other tokens, I run sa-learn as the same user as well. -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin does not learn
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 10:36 am, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote: > I'm using Spamassassin 3.0.3 on a Debian machine running spampd > proxy. When I check my receiving mail's headers I see that when talks > about autolearn always says no or failed, what could be the reason? My server was doing the same thing *until*... for months ... (yeah, yeah, yeah ... I know ... why so long? Busy with real job work and didn't get to it until a while later when I was a little bored and thought I'd check it out why it wasn't *learning* as I thought it should ... o.k?) I corrected how/where it thought the bayes database was located on the machine. Once I made the correction to where it was (and permission to open it), then it started learning upon restarting spamd (assuming it satisfied the threshold conditions, etc)... My next big tasks will be to MySQL-ize Spamassassin so that it's running from the database for customization as well as MySQL-izing the Bayes database. Those two projects are a month (maybe two) away. -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: _POSTAL isn't numeric ... /Conf.pm line 251
On Monday 13 February 2006 12:16 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:11:16PM -0500, Tyler Nally wrote: > > Argument "_POSTAL" isn't numeric in addition (+) > > at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm line 251 > > > > Is this a problem? Is there a fix? > > You have a bad config line somewhere. probably something like > "score RULE _POSTAL ..." Marvelous! It was "score REMOVE _POSTAL" that had to be reconnected between the RULE and _POSTAL. Thanks much I appreciate it! -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_POSTAL isn't numeric ... /Conf.pm line 251
Hmmm. upgraded to SA 3.1.0 and I get this when performing a sa-learn: Argument "_POSTAL" isn't numeric in addition (+) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm line 251 Is this a problem? Is there a fix? -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using LearnAsSpam IMAP folder
On Sunday 04 December 2005 05:59 pm, Pollywog wrote: > I do that as well and have no problem, but when I use the fetchmail as > shown at the URL I posted (the command goes into a crontab), fetchmail > can't find the IMAP folder. I wonder if it's just the way you refer to the sub-folders with fetchmail in order to fetch the right directories "Fetchmail" being essentially a "dumb" utility .. you might have to provide it with more information before it can find what YOU are looking for. A quick scan of Google looking for "fetchmail IMAP" had someone calling fetchmail like this using the IMAP protocol and fetchmail reading certain folders: fetchmail -k -a -p IMAP \ -S localhost \ --smtpname [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ -u username \ --auth password \ -r "Inbox.folder1","Inbox.folder2","Inbox.etc" \ -v mailserver.domain.com ... with the "Inbox" representing the home "Maildir" path and the "Inbox.folder1" representing the first named sub-folder within the main maildir... and "Inbox.folder2" the 2nd, etc. -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using LearnAsSpam IMAP folder
On Sunday 04 December 2005 05:08 pm, Pollywog wrote: > That did not do it, but I think you are close, that is is something along > those lines. I think the instructions I followed are not intended for > Courier but for Cyrus. I user Courier on this particular server .. and for sa-learn to harvest spam out of a Courier/IMAP Maildir folder (because all Courier Maildir folders (regardless of whether it's the main "Maildir" or one of the subfolders) has a "cur" "tmp" and "new" subfolders ... this is what I have to do. I use a similar mechanism where I keep track of the different Ham and Spam folder names... and I use two different scripts to sweep through the file system with a HAM sweep (going through all of the cur, tmp, & new named sub-folders that are known to have HAM in them and another script that is setup to sweeep through the cur, tmp, & new SPAM sub-folders. This is what most of my HAM folders sa-learning script looks like: ##NOTES--- $WORKDIR is the path of the main maildir (inbox) that sa-learn is processing. $DIRFILE is the name of the file that contains the list of named sub-folders of the main Maildir. $SALEARN is the variable that contains the full path to sa-learn. And since this particular e-mail system is fully database driven, "vmail" is the account of the virtual-mail while e-mail is processed. ## OUTPUT="$WORKDIR/hamfolder.out" # captures standard output output WIPPUT="$WORKDIR/hamfolder.wip" # captures current work-in-progress ERRPUT="$WORKDIR/hamfolder.err" # captures standard error output WORKFIL="$WORKDIR/hamfolder.do" # captures current named sub-folder for OUTFILE in `echo $OUTPUT $WIPPUT $ERRPUT $WORKFIL` do if [ -e "$OUTFILE" ] then echo "erasing $OUTFILE" rm $OUTFILE fi done DATE=`date` OFLD="tmp cur new" for FOLDERIN in `cat $DIRFILE` do for SUBFLDR in $OFLD do echo "$DIRPATH/$FOLDERIN/$SUBFLDR" > folder.do echo " $DIRPATH/$FOLDERIN/$SUBFLDR -" >> $WIPPUT echo " $DIRPATH/$FOLDERIN/$SUBFLDR -" >> $ERRPUT echo " $DIRPATH/$FOLDERIN/$SUBFLDR -" >> $OUTPUT nice $SALEARN -u vmail --showdots --ham --folders=folder.do >> $OUTPUT 2>>$ERRPUT DATE=`date` echo "--DONE w/ $DIRPATH/$FOLDERIN/$SUBFLDR --" >> $WIPPUT echo "--DONE w/ $DIRPATH/$FOLDERIN/$SUBFLDR --" >> $ERRPUT echo "--DONE w/ $DIRPATH/$FOLDERIN/$SUBFLDR --" >> $OUTPUT done done echo "+-+" >> $OUTPUT echo "| |" >> $OUTPUT echo "| Learning about HAM|" >> $OUTPUT echo "| |" >> $OUTPUT echo "| DONE |" >> $OUTPUT echo "| |" >> $OUTPUT echo "+-+" >> $OUTPUT The main difference between HAM and SPAM processing is the "--ham" is changed to "--spam" in the sa-learn execution. and where you see "ham" or "HAM" in the different variable file names.. they are changed to "spam" or "SPAM" accordingly as well. -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using LearnAsSpam IMAP folder
On Sunday 04 December 2005 03:29 pm, Pollywog wrote: > I forgot one thing that might be important: I am using Courier IMAP, not > Cyrus > > courier-imap 3.0.8-4 > courier-maildrop 0.47-4 Courier doesn't put the e-mail *directly* into the folder that carries the folder's name, but one of three directories "cur", "tmp", or "new" inside of the named folder so, if you have a folder... "LearnAsSpam" inside of your inbox (Maildir/), the path (I think) you'd need is... $HOME/Maildir/.LearnAsSpam/cur/ .. for the value that a sa-learn would have to be aimed towards to pick up the contents thereof. -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bayes question
Boy... anytime I've done some kind of network file sharing across a system or two, I have never done it for good performance reasons... only convenience sakes. And even then, never large files. Almost a decade ago when I was performing massive COBOL database conversions to load data into flat files to be imported into a relational database, I noticed a significant decrease in performance of the machine that is accessing remotely stored files. It was far easier/faster to auto-ftp the half a gigabyte of information to another machine so that it could have the information *local* and therefore it can access the data extremely quickly. Depending on the machine and it's resources, I'd expect it to slow down it's processing between 25-40% on the average. If the data remained on a remote machine, then the CPU has to use it's resources to handle the resources on the remote file system as if it's a part of it's own. It is then at the whim of a NFS file system handle that may or may not stay fresh. Even if the machines are separated by a couple feet of cable .. for me .. back then ... NFS wasn't reliable enough for me to be able to bank on it being up. Because when the remote NFS file handle went stale, it caused the local machine to hang and drag. Maybe NFS is better now than back then... I don't know. The machine doesn't make a network *call* to the other machine to borrow it's resources, it uses it's own resources to access the remote files as if they are local yet, it does it over a network cable rather than the typical high-speed of motherboard's bus that would access the local hard drive. So... the only way I'd do this in this day and age would be to have the kind of hardware that you could build a multi-node supercomputer where they all share the same hard drive over a fiber optic network with lightning quick hard disks on the server node as it shares its resources with the worker nodes. In that case, the networking element has been removed from the equation as the slowest link in the chain of events. On Wed, July 27, 2005 16:37, Alan Fullmer said: > I attempted to do that once, with a network file system, but it didn't seem > to know how to handle the locking properly. I know I did something wrong, > so if anyone else has a solution, I'd also be happy to hear it! :-) -- Tyler Nally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
