Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> Can someone expand on the ClamAV detecting phishing attempts. Or direct
> me some where?

Pick up some of the SARE rulesets.  I think spoof or fraud is the one that
contains an assortment of phishhooks.  Won't get 'em all, but will sure cut
down on the more common ones.

Loren



Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Joe Young wrote:

>
> Can someone expand on the ClamAV detecting phishing attempts. Or
> direct me some where?
>
> Thank you,


It just detects the message itself as a virus. Here's a sample report
generated when MailScanner fed a phishing email to our virus scanners:

The following e-mails were found to have: Virus Detected

Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP Address: 66.199.161.40
 Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Your Account Will Be Suspended ; Checking  
 MessageID: j2ELE82X031642
Report: ClamAV: msg-18232-49.html contains HTML.Phishing.Pay-6 




Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-30 Thread Joe Young
Can someone expand on the ClamAV detecting phishing attempts. Or direct 
me some where?

Thank you,
--Joe
Matt Kettler wrote:
Sunny Forro wrote:
 

Hello,
I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it
through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned
on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not
all) of the phishing emails are ebay account notices with forged IP
addresses. I don't understand how these are getting through. Is anyone
else out there having the same problem? Does anyone have any
suggestions? The only reason I know they're getting through is because
I've set up MailWatch for MailScanner(works great, makes it easy to see
what's going on)
   

Have you considered adding clamav to your MailScanner setup? clamav
detects a wide variety of stock phishing scams as if they were viruses.
Works great for me with my setup. (I use it with MailScanner, but I have
the MailScanner phishing net disabled). It's not 100%, but it catches
80-90% of them without any work on my part.
   http://www.clamav.net/
From there you might want to consider the SARE spoofing ruleset for
SpamAssassin (I've not tried it myself, but it seems well written)
   http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_spoof.cf

 




Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Martin Hepworth
Sunny
depends where the problem is and what you mean by the phishing emails 
getting through?

1. Ask on the MailScanner list, I'll be there too..
2. use the free ClamAV anti-virus system, this is quite good at 
catchingthis stuff.
3. Do you mean the MS phishing net or actual phishing emails?

--
Martin Hepworth
Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
Sunny Forro wrote:
Hello,
I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it
through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned
on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not
all) of the phishing emails are ebay account notices with forged IP
addresses. I don't understand how these are getting through. Is anyone
else out there having the same problem? Does anyone have any
suggestions? The only reason I know they're getting through is because
I've set up MailWatch for MailScanner(works great, makes it easy to see
what's going on).
Any ideas?
Sunny
Elmer Steve Forro III (Sunny)
Assistant Manager of Information Systems
Compco Industries
400 West Railroad Street
Suite 1
Columbiana, OH 44408
Phone:	(330) 482-0200
Cell:		(330) 881-8401
Fax:		(330) 482-6492
Email:	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:		http://www.compcoind.com/ 
**
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify
the system manager.
This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept
for the presence of computer viruses and is believed to be clean.   
**


Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 10:58:30 AM, Sunny Forro wrote:
> Hello,
> I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it
> through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned
> on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not
> all) of the phishing emails are ebay account notices with forged IP
> addresses. I don't understand how these are getting through. Is anyone
> else out there having the same problem? Does anyone have any
> suggestions? The only reason I know they're getting through is because
> I've set up MailWatch for MailScanner(works great, makes it easy to see
> what's going on).

Try using SURBLs:

  http://www.surbl.org/

specifically:

  http://www.surbl.org/lists.html#ph

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> From: "David B Funk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I augmented 70_sare_spoof.cf to improve its coverage, added more
> bank sites we've seen (EG: wamu.com, huntington.com, keybank.com
> hiberniainfo.com, etc).

If yould' be willing to share your rule enhancements with the rest of the
community, we'd be more than happy to mass-check them and add them to the
file!  We'll credit you with the rules, and about all you have to do is
agree with the licence terms on the file.

Loren



Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Loren Wilton
Are you using the SARE anti-spoof rules?  We catch the ebay stuff pretty
well.

Loren



Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-22 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Matt Kettler wrote:

> Sunny Forro wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> > I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it
> >through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned
> >on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not
> >all) of the phishing emails are ebay account notices with forged IP
[snip..]
> Have you considered adding clamav to your MailScanner setup? clamav
> detects a wide variety of stock phishing scams as if they were viruses.
> Works great for me with my setup. (I use it with MailScanner, but I have
> the MailScanner phishing net disabled). It's not 100%, but it catches
> 80-90% of them without any work on my part.
>
> http://www.clamav.net/
>
> From there you might want to consider the SARE spoofing ruleset for
> SpamAssassin (I've not tried it myself, but it seems well written)
>
> http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_spoof.cf

I'll second that advice, am doing both and well worth the effort.
(not to mention the side effect of blocking viri ;).

I've integrated clamav into the SMTP system to do a SMTP-REJECT on all
detected baddies, so viri and many phishes never make it in our front
door.

I augmented 70_sare_spoof.cf to improve its coverage, added more
bank sites we've seen (EG: wamu.com, huntington.com, keybank.com
hiberniainfo.com, etc).

-- 
Dave Funk  University of Iowa
College of Engineering
319/335-5751   FAX: 319/384-0549   1256 Seamans Center
Sys_admin/Postmaster/cell_adminIowa City, IA 52242-1527
#include 
Better is not better, 'standard' is better. B{


Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-22 Thread ChupaCabra
And this has what to do with Spamassassin?

Sunny Forro wrote:
Hello,
I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it
through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned
on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not
all) of the phishing emails are ebay account notices with forged IP
addresses. I don't understand how these are getting through. Is anyone
else out there having the same problem? Does anyone have any
suggestions? The only reason I know they're getting through is because
I've set up MailWatch for MailScanner(works great, makes it easy to see
what's going on).
Any ideas?
Sunny
Elmer Steve Forro III (Sunny)
Assistant Manager of Information Systems
Compco Industries
400 West Railroad Street
Suite 1
Columbiana, OH 44408
Phone:	(330) 482-0200
Cell:		(330) 881-8401
Fax:		(330) 482-6492
Email:	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:		http://www.compcoind.com/ 

 

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http://linuxlink.com
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\ / No HTML/RTF in email
x   No Word docs in email
/ \ Respect for open standards
In a related story, the IRS has recently ruled that 
the cost of Windows upgrades can NOT be deducted 
as a gambling loss.




Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-22 Thread Matt Kettler
Sunny Forro wrote:

>Hello,
>   I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it
>through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned
>on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not
>all) of the phishing emails are ebay account notices with forged IP
>addresses. I don't understand how these are getting through. Is anyone
>else out there having the same problem? Does anyone have any
>suggestions? The only reason I know they're getting through is because
>I've set up MailWatch for MailScanner(works great, makes it easy to see
>what's going on)
>

Have you considered adding clamav to your MailScanner setup? clamav
detects a wide variety of stock phishing scams as if they were viruses.
Works great for me with my setup. (I use it with MailScanner, but I have
the MailScanner phishing net disabled). It's not 100%, but it catches
80-90% of them without any work on my part.

http://www.clamav.net/

>From there you might want to consider the SARE spoofing ruleset for
SpamAssassin (I've not tried it myself, but it seems well written)

http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_spoof.cf



Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-22 Thread Sunny Forro
Hello,
I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it
through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned
on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not
all) of the phishing emails are ebay account notices with forged IP
addresses. I don't understand how these are getting through. Is anyone
else out there having the same problem? Does anyone have any
suggestions? The only reason I know they're getting through is because
I've set up MailWatch for MailScanner(works great, makes it easy to see
what's going on).

Any ideas?
Sunny


Elmer Steve Forro III (Sunny)
Assistant Manager of Information Systems
Compco Industries
400 West Railroad Street
Suite 1
Columbiana, OH 44408
Phone:  (330) 482-0200
Cell:   (330) 881-8401
Fax:(330) 482-6492
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:http://www.compcoind.com/