Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-12-19 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Stefan Jakobs ste...@localside.net [2011-11-16 11:28]:
 Hi list,  
 
 the published ruleset in the update channel is much older than the ruleset on
 the named website.  
 
 # dig +short -t txt 2.3.3.70_zmi_german.cf.zmi.sa-update.dostech.net txt
 20100831  
 
 Is the update with sa-update still supported?  

Michael,

could you answer that?

Regards,

Sebastian

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Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-12-19 Thread Michael Monnerie
Sorry for the delay. I don't read the list normally, so please always CC 
me if you want to reach me.

On Mittwoch, 16. November 2011 Stefan Jakobs wrote:
 the published ruleset in the update channel is much older than the
 ruleset on the named website.
 
 # dig +short -t txt 2.3.3.70_zmi_german.cf.zmi.sa-update.dostech.net
 txt 20100831
 
 Is the update with sa-update still supported?  

I'm sorry, I've contacted  Daryl C. W. O'Shea 
spamassas...@dostech.ca on Februar 12 and September 5, 2011, he wanted 
to look it up but it seems still old.

@Daryl: Any chance you can fix that? If you tell me no, I can remove it 
from the list of possible updates.

The correct way to get ZMI_GERMAN is currently per web on 
http://sa.zmi.at/rulesets/70_zmi_german.cf
Version: 3.00.3 from 2011-12-19

If someone can describe exactly what to do to create my own channel with 
10 minutes of work, I can do so, but I don't want to run around 
searching for that info, I'm too busy with other projects.
I'd also need info what users would then need to do to get that updates.

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Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2011 Axb wrote:
 patterns with 120 characters are not really efficient, in terms of 
 speed and hit rate. They are very specific to certain campaigns and 
 minimal template changes will render them useless as in:
 
 body __ZMIde_STOCK34 /Wir sind .{0,2}berzeugt, dass der
 Zeitpunkt  sich an einem Unternehmen zu beteiligen, welches
 erfolgreich im Edelmetallhandel t.{0,2}tig ist, nicht besser sein
 k.{0,2}nnte/
 
 or
 
 body __ZMIde_SALE5 /In den letzten 5 Jahren hatte ich .{0,2}ber
 drei  dutzend gut funktionierende Strategien, um die Zahl meiner
 Webseitenbesucher drastisch zu erh.{0,2}hen und dadurch meinen
 Umsatz  anzukurbeln/

Since they get hits, no need to change them. Once I get reports about a 
sentence that has been modified, I apply that to the rules. I need 
feedback for those, of course.
And it should still be fast in terms of CPU as if there's (rule 
__ZMIde_SALE5) no In den l in the message, the regex shouldn't have to 
search too much, right? At least I'd guess it's an optimized search 
which compares in 64bit steps, which is 8 chars at once?

Look for the Krankenkassa ruleset, this has been very active these 
last weeks. All the time modifications from them, I get reports and 
modify the rules accordingly.

And not to forget: Long sentences mean chance for a false positive drops

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Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-12-13 Thread Axb

On 2011-12-13 8:34, Michael Monnerie wrote:

On Montag, 31. Oktober 2011 Axb wrote:

tried it and dumped due to low hit rate

stuff like

body ZMIde_JOBSEARCH6 /Dank sehr grossen Angagement, aber auch
der  Umsetzung verschiedener Inovationen, konnte unsere Firma schon
nach vier Jahren auf die internationalen Ebene hinaufsteigen/

is not efficient


Its efficient in terms of filtering only spam with zero false
positives, which is top priority for this ruleset. And you picked a
very old and very long rule. Most rules nowadays are just one or even
only part of a sentence, and it prooves very efficient. Stuff like the
__ZMIde_JOBEARN1-28 rules move false positives to 0, and I'm constantly
adding stuff.

I've now tried to remove all old cruft, that means single-line rules.
Rulesize went from 350KB to 296KB, that should save some RAM and CPU.



patterns with 120 characters are not really efficient, in terms of 
speed and hit rate. They are very specific to certain campaigns and 
minimal template changes will render them useless as in:


body __ZMIde_STOCK34 /Wir sind .{0,2}berzeugt, dass der Zeitpunkt 
sich an einem Unternehmen zu beteiligen, welches erfolgreich im 
Edelmetallhandel t.{0,2}tig ist, nicht besser sein k.{0,2}nnte/


or

body __ZMIde_SALE5 /In den letzten 5 Jahren hatte ich .{0,2}ber drei 
dutzend gut funktionierende Strategien, um die Zahl meiner 
Webseitenbesucher drastisch zu erh.{0,2}hen und dadurch meinen Umsatz 
anzukurbeln/







Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-12-12 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 31. Oktober 2011 Axb wrote:
 tried it and dumped due to low hit rate
 
 stuff like
 
 body ZMIde_JOBSEARCH6 /Dank sehr grossen Angagement, aber auch
 der  Umsetzung verschiedener Inovationen, konnte unsere Firma schon
 nach vier Jahren auf die internationalen Ebene hinaufsteigen/
 
 is not efficient

Its efficient in terms of filtering only spam with zero false 
positives, which is top priority for this ruleset. And you picked a 
very old and very long rule. Most rules nowadays are just one or even 
only part of a sentence, and it prooves very efficient. Stuff like the 
__ZMIde_JOBEARN1-28 rules move false positives to 0, and I'm constantly 
adding stuff.

I've now tried to remove all old cruft, that means single-line rules. 
Rulesize went from 350KB to 296KB, that should save some RAM and CPU.

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Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan Jakobs
Hi list,  

the published ruleset in the update channel is much older than the ruleset on
the named website.  

# dig +short -t txt 2.3.3.70_zmi_german.cf.zmi.sa-update.dostech.net txt
20100831  

Is the update with sa-update still supported?  

Thanks and kind regards
Stefan  
  Mo Okt 31 2011 14:43:22 CET von  Michael Monnerie
michael.monne...@is.it-management.at  Betreff: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

  

  
  

Dear list,
 
 I'd like to receive some feedback on the usage of zmi_german. If you use 
 it, please report to spam-ger...@zmi.at and tell me what you think about 
 it.
 
 The ruleset is designed to filter only german spam, and is very safe. 
 Not a single report this year about FPs. If you didn't use it until now, 
 and get german spam, download it from 
 http://sa.zmi.at/rulesets/70_zmi_german.cf
 
 I'm seeking for people helping to cleanup and improve the filters. 
 Please contact me at spam-ger...@zmi.at



Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Monnerie
Dear list,

I'd like to receive some feedback on the usage of zmi_german. If you use 
it, please report to spam-ger...@zmi.at and tell me what you think about 
it.

The ruleset is designed to filter only german spam, and is very safe. 
Not a single report this year about FPs. If you didn't use it until now, 
and get german spam, download it from 
http://sa.zmi.at/rulesets/70_zmi_german.cf

I'm seeking for people helping to cleanup and improve the filters. 
Please contact me at spam-ger...@zmi.at

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Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-10-31 Thread Axb

On 2011-10-31 14:43, Michael Monnerie wrote:

Dear list,

I'd like to receive some feedback on the usage of zmi_german. If you use
it, please report to spam-ger...@zmi.at and tell me what you think about
it.

The ruleset is designed to filter only german spam, and is very safe.
Not a single report this year about FPs. If you didn't use it until now,
and get german spam, download it from
http://sa.zmi.at/rulesets/70_zmi_german.cf

I'm seeking for people helping to cleanup and improve the filters.
Please contact me at spam-ger...@zmi.at



tried it and dumped due to low hit rate

stuff like

body ZMIde_JOBSEARCH6 /Dank sehr grossen Angagement, aber auch der 
Umsetzung verschiedener Inovationen, konnte unsere Firma schon nach vier 
Jahren auf die internationalen Ebene hinaufsteigen/


is not efficient


ANNOUNCE: Update of ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2007-04-23 Thread Michael Monnerie
The ruleset for filtering german language SPAMs, ZMI_GERMAN, has just 
been updated and released.

It filters stock pump  dump advertisings, as well as some new porn 
sites.

The ruleset is available via rules_du_jour, or via Update Channel 
70_zmi_german.cf.zmi.sa-update.dostech.net (to be used with sa-update), 
see http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/sare/sare-sa-update-howto.txt
or manually from http://sa.zmi.at/rulesets/70_zmi_german.cf

Please report your suggestions, ideas and german language SPAM to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you.

mfg zmi
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RE: ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2006-06-23 Thread Bret Miller
 On Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2006 18:28 Bret Miller wrote:
  My copy was accidentally not in the update list for a
 while. It says:
  # Current Home: http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_zmi_german.cf

 Upps - I changed this info now to http://zmi.at/x/70_zmi_german.cf,
 which is the correct place.

 Seems nobody saw this error until now, as it's available as
 ZMI_GERMAN
 via RulesDuJour.

 Correct information has always been at
 http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets?highlight=%
 28zmi_german%29

Thank you. I updated the current home line and my update script now
picks it up correctly. We run on Windows here, so RDJ isn't really an
option without setting up a full CYGWIN environment just for it.

Bret





RE: ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2006-06-22 Thread Bret Miller
 I got several reports about warnings in SA versions  3.1.
 I'm sorry for
 this, I use 3.1.3, which doesn't give any lint warnings for
 that. Some
 hours ago I made an update by shortening the description for these
 rules. So please update via RDJ to get a copy without warnings.

 If somebody wrote me a script to check for these too long
 descriptions
 or too long rule names, I would use it :-)

 Lint output: warning: description for ZMIde_LINKEXCHG2 is
 over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIde_URIWITNET is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK3 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIde_LINKEXCHG1 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANKURI1 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK4 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK1 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIde_LINKEXCHG3 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANKURI3 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK2 is over 50 chars
 warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANKURI2 is over 50 chars
 lint: 11 issues detected.  please rerun with debug enabled for more
 information.


My copy was accidentally not in the update list for a while. It says:
# Current Home: http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_zmi_german.cf
But that URL returns a 404 error, and it's not listed at
www.rulesemporium.com anywhere. So... Is there a more current URL for
this ruleset?

Thanks,
Bret





Re: ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2006 18:28 Bret Miller wrote:
 My copy was accidentally not in the update list for a while. It says:
 # Current Home: http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/70_zmi_german.cf

Upps - I changed this info now to http://zmi.at/x/70_zmi_german.cf, 
which is the correct place.

Seems nobody saw this error until now, as it's available as ZMI_GERMAN 
via RulesDuJour.

Correct information has always been at
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets?highlight=%28zmi_german%29

mfg zmi
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ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Monnerie
Dear users,

I got several reports about warnings in SA versions  3.1. I'm sorry for 
this, I use 3.1.3, which doesn't give any lint warnings for that. Some 
hours ago I made an update by shortening the description for these 
rules. So please update via RDJ to get a copy without warnings.

If somebody wrote me a script to check for these too long descriptions 
or too long rule names, I would use it :-)

Lint output: warning: description for ZMIde_LINKEXCHG2 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIde_URIWITNET is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK3 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIde_LINKEXCHG1 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANKURI1 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK4 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK1 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIde_LINKEXCHG3 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANKURI3 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANK2 is over 50 chars
warning: description for ZMIfish_POSTBANKURI2 is over 50 chars
lint: 11 issues detected.  please rerun with debug enabled for more 
information.

mfg zmi
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