Re: What does it take to be banned from this mailing list?
Yep, don't feed the trolls. No reason respond to them. If you want to do something much more effective, evangelize Tapestry outside of this list: online forums, or your local Java user's group. On Feb 1, 2008 5:13 AM, Adam Zimowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why can't we just obey one simple rule on this mailing list: > > DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS > > I guarantee that if troll e-mail go unanswered, they will dissapear as > quickly as they came. > > > > > On Feb 1, 2008 6:28 AM, Ulrich Stärk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Angelo Turetta schrieb: > > > > > I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.K.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) has well passed the > > > limit I would tolerate if the matter was in my hands > > > > > > And for what matters, I would also inform his friends at wicket, which > > > being another of apache's projects should be bound by the same ethics, > > > what a nice person they have at their court. I can't believe they are OK > > > with his behavior (I mean: being subscribed to an apache mailing list > > > under false identity with the only purpose of starting flame threads) > > > > > > Angelo Turetta > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Banning people from mailing lists is like Don Quijote fighting the > > windmills. They can come back every time they want by just using yet > > another email account which they can get everywhere if they want to. The > > best is to just ignore them. > > > > Uli > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My Compliments to T5 [Re: What does it take to be banned from this mailing list?]
On Feb 1, 2008 6:59 AM, Michael Gerzabek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 to NFTT > > Further I'd like to deflect this thread. For me Tapestry 5 is the > GREATEST webframework on the planet! And I don't care a cent about what > TheServerside or whoever thinks, says and writes about it. > > Tapestry5 > > * is so easy to start > * is so easy to succeed > * is so well documented > * has such a vibrant user community > * is such an EASY way to develop projects really RAPIDLY > * is so INTELLIGENTLY well integrated with spring and hibernate > * is so intimately cared about by the lead architect Howard as well as > the other committers > ... to be continued! > > And yet it's OPEN SOURCE. If I understand right that means everybody is > invited to think out loud and to get his hands in the mud and work on > what someone want's to see realized. Thanks! > > So if there REALLY was a need for backwards compatibility, where are you > people that need this feature? Speak up, get in construction mode, and > get in working mode rather than complaining and disturbing those who > really are commited to CONTRIBUTE to a community. I'm sure the community > would be willing to help. Backwards compatibility is a tough nut to crack. T5 is not just T4 with everything renamed. There are features of T4 that are necessary there and have no place in T5. I can't even picture what an automated process to convert from T4 to T5 would look like. On the other hand, I have a feel on the manual side; we are almost hoping a client pushes back on performance and scalability so that we can offer up T5 as the solution. We'll see. > > I'm thinking about starting a wiki page on 'What I really like about > Tapestry 5'. We could collect user stories about learning T5, > implementing projects with T5, enhancing T5, and other related stories. The wiki is a great resource, but I can also say I've done a terrible job of keeping up with the updates and verifiying their accuracy. I'm hoping that as we add new Tapestry team members, we'll energize some of them to keep track of this stuff. Only so many hours in the day! > > Thoughts? > > Michael > > > Adam Zimowski schrieb: > > Why can't we just obey one simple rule on this mailing list: > > > > DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS > > > > I guarantee that if troll e-mail go unanswered, they will dissapear as > > quickly as they came. > > > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2008 6:28 AM, Ulrich Stärk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Angelo Turetta schrieb: > >> > >> > >>> I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.K.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) has well passed the > >>> limit I would tolerate if the matter was in my hands > >>> > >>> And for what matters, I would also inform his friends at wicket, which > >>> being another of apache's projects should be bound by the same ethics, > >>> what a nice person they have at their court. I can't believe they are OK > >>> with his behavior (I mean: being subscribed to an apache mailing list > >>> under false identity with the only purpose of starting flame threads) > >>> > >>> Angelo Turetta > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >> Banning people from mailing lists is like Don Quijote fighting the > >> windmills. They can come back every time they want by just using yet > >> another email account which they can get everywhere if they want to. The > >> best is to just ignore them. > >> > >> Uli > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My Compliments to T5 [Re: What does it take to be banned from this mailing list?]
+1 to NFTT Further I'd like to deflect this thread. For me Tapestry 5 is the GREATEST webframework on the planet! And I don't care a cent about what TheServerside or whoever thinks, says and writes about it. Tapestry5 * is so easy to start * is so easy to succeed * is so well documented * has such a vibrant user community * is such an EASY way to develop projects really RAPIDLY * is so INTELLIGENTLY well integrated with spring and hibernate * is so intimately cared about by the lead architect Howard as well as the other committers ... to be continued! And yet it's OPEN SOURCE. If I understand right that means everybody is invited to think out loud and to get his hands in the mud and work on what someone want's to see realized. So if there REALLY was a need for backwards compatibility, where are you people that need this feature? Speak up, get in construction mode, and get in working mode rather than complaining and disturbing those who really are commited to CONTRIBUTE to a community. I'm sure the community would be willing to help. I'm thinking about starting a wiki page on 'What I really like about Tapestry 5'. We could collect user stories about learning T5, implementing projects with T5, enhancing T5, and other related stories. Thoughts? Michael Adam Zimowski schrieb: Why can't we just obey one simple rule on this mailing list: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS I guarantee that if troll e-mail go unanswered, they will dissapear as quickly as they came. On Feb 1, 2008 6:28 AM, Ulrich Stärk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Angelo Turetta schrieb: I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.K.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) has well passed the limit I would tolerate if the matter was in my hands And for what matters, I would also inform his friends at wicket, which being another of apache's projects should be bound by the same ethics, what a nice person they have at their court. I can't believe they are OK with his behavior (I mean: being subscribed to an apache mailing list under false identity with the only purpose of starting flame threads) Angelo Turetta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Banning people from mailing lists is like Don Quijote fighting the windmills. They can come back every time they want by just using yet another email account which they can get everywhere if they want to. The best is to just ignore them. Uli - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What does it take to be banned from this mailing list?
Why can't we just obey one simple rule on this mailing list: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS I guarantee that if troll e-mail go unanswered, they will dissapear as quickly as they came. On Feb 1, 2008 6:28 AM, Ulrich Stärk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Angelo Turetta schrieb: > > > I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.K.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) has well passed the > > limit I would tolerate if the matter was in my hands > > > > And for what matters, I would also inform his friends at wicket, which > > being another of apache's projects should be bound by the same ethics, > > what a nice person they have at their court. I can't believe they are OK > > with his behavior (I mean: being subscribed to an apache mailing list > > under false identity with the only purpose of starting flame threads) > > > > Angelo Turetta > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Banning people from mailing lists is like Don Quijote fighting the > windmills. They can come back every time they want by just using yet > another email account which they can get everywhere if they want to. The > best is to just ignore them. > > Uli > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What does it take to be banned from this mailing list?
Angelo Turetta schrieb: I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.K.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) has well passed the limit I would tolerate if the matter was in my hands And for what matters, I would also inform his friends at wicket, which being another of apache's projects should be bound by the same ethics, what a nice person they have at their court. I can't believe they are OK with his behavior (I mean: being subscribed to an apache mailing list under false identity with the only purpose of starting flame threads) Angelo Turetta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Banning people from mailing lists is like Don Quijote fighting the windmills. They can come back every time they want by just using yet another email account which they can get everywhere if they want to. The best is to just ignore them. Uli - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What does it take to be banned from this mailing list?
I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.K.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) has well passed the limit I would tolerate if the matter was in my hands And for what matters, I would also inform his friends at wicket, which being another of apache's projects should be bound by the same ethics, what a nice person they have at their court. I can't believe they are OK with his behavior (I mean: being subscribed to an apache mailing list under false identity with the only purpose of starting flame threads) Angelo Turetta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
