Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-09-07 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 12:16:30AM +0100, dave cunningham wrote:
> I've finally tried to get this up and running with the patched Intel  
> xserver on a D945GCLF2 atom board (I see from your readme that you've  
> tried this configuration so assume it should work).

right, works very well

> The desktop's working just fine but I'm having problems with XV. When  
> running in a window xv's fine however when I switch to full screen all I  
> get is a blue screen + audio.

probably a xorg.conf configuration issue. Did you use clone mode?
That does not work with interlaced timings. Symptoms are like
the ones you describe.
Attached is a working sample for xorg.conf I use for my D945GCLF2.

- Thomas

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
Modeline "720x576_50i"  13.875   720  744  808  888   576  580  
585  625  -hsync -vsync interlace
Modeline "800x520_50i"  17.00800  856  936 1088   520  548  
553  625  -hsync -vsync interlace
ModeLine "1440x576_50i" 27.75   1440 1488 1609 1769   576  580  
585  625  -hsync -vsync interlace
Modeline "1368x768_60"  85.86   1368 1440 1584 1800   768  769  
772  795  -hsync +vsync
Modeline "1600x1200_60"161.00   1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 
1207 1245  -hsync +vsync

Option   "PreferredMode""1440x576_50i"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor1"
Option   "Ignore" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor2"
ModeLine "1440x576_50i" 27.75   1440 1488 1612 1772   576  580  
585  625  -hsync -vsync interlace
Modeline "1600x1200_50i"65.92   1600 1696 1864 2131  1200 1203 
1207 1238  -hsync +vsync interlace

Option   "PreferredMode""1440x576_50i"
Option   "Ignore" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "intel"

Option  "monitor-VGA"   "Monitor0"
Option  "monitor-LVDS"  "Monitor1"
Option  "monitor-TMDS-1""Monitor2"

#Option  "SyncFields""True"
#Option  "SF_YScaleFineTune" "0"
#Option  "SF_YRGB_VPhase""0"
#Option  "SF_UV_VPhase"  "0"
#Option  "SF_SchedPrio"  "0"
Option  "SF_Debug"  "12000"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
Device "Card0"
DefaultDepth24
EndSection

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Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-09-07 Thread dave cunningham
In message , dave cunningham 
wrote




Looking for some help again :(

I've finally tried to get this up and running with the patched Intel 
xserver on a D945GCLF2 atom board (I see from your readme that you've 
tried this configuration so assume it should work).


(Note I'm using MPlayer right now and not xine/vdr).

The desktop's working just fine but I'm having problems with XV. When 
running in a window xv's fine however when I switch to full screen all 
I get is a blue screen + audio.


I've done a lot of googling / messing with xserver options / xv overlay 
ports but I'm no further forward yet!




An addendum...

When running in non-interlaced mode with my normal monitor (1280*1024) 
rather than the TV xv works fine in full screen mode. (Incidentally I 
note the readme for the xserver says that the driver doesn't support 
interlaced mode though I guess that's what patch changed).


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Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-09-07 Thread dave cunningham

In message <20090827195633.ga3...@roja.toh.cx>, Thomas Hilber wrote



ATI cards do have a major drawback compared to Intel cards:
They can't scale vertically in interlaced mode because they can't scale
both fields independently. So your TV must handle format adaptions.



Looking for some help again :(

I've finally tried to get this up and running with the patched Intel 
xserver on a D945GCLF2 atom board (I see from your readme that you've 
tried this configuration so assume it should work).


(Note I'm using MPlayer right now and not xine/vdr).

The desktop's working just fine but I'm having problems with XV. When 
running in a window xv's fine however when I switch to full screen all I 
get is a blue screen + audio.


I've done a lot of googling / messing with xserver options / xv overlay 
ports but I'm no further forward yet!


Any ideas?

Thanks!
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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Petri Helin

VDR User wrote:

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Petri Helin wrote:

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, VDR User wrote:
Perhaps you meant the great non-german-speaking community, who
communicate in English? ;)


Nope, I mean english-speaking-only.  Like the other user pointed out,
many many people are using various howto's and IRC for their VDR info,
and never find their way here & other places.  I can't count how many
times people have said they've never even looked at the MANUAL,
README, and so on.



Ok, so what do you suggest us that belong to neither german-speaking nor 
english-speaking-only communities should do? Or would it be acceptable 
for the english-speaking-only community to accept those 
other-than-english-speaking as well? I mean, where are you all hiding? :)


This might be a good time to bring forward things that might not have 
been discussed on this list. Like if there were patches/plugins etc 
lying around that the other-than-english-speaking community might be 
unaware of.


-Petri

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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Petri Helin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, VDR User wrote:
>>
>> I'd suggest posting to the mailing list or both as VDR Portal caters
>> 99% to people who speak german and isn't much help for the very large
>> english-speaking-only VDR community.
>>
>
> I wouldn't say the english-speaking-only VD community is that
> large: At least if you look at the registered users:
> http://www.cadsoft.de/cgi-bin/vdr-counter.pl?action=statist

I know for a fact it's large because I'm a member of that community
and talk with many of them.  Only a small portion of VDR users in
general subscribe to this mailing list, the 'registered users' list,
etc. from what I've seen.

> Perhaps you meant the great non-german-speaking community, who
> communicate in English? ;)

Nope, I mean english-speaking-only.  Like the other user pointed out,
many many people are using various howto's and IRC for their VDR info,
and never find their way here & other places.  I can't count how many
times people have said they've never even looked at the MANUAL,
README, and so on.

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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 07.09.2009 14:41, Falk Spitzberg wrote:
> Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 15:29 +0300 schrieb Antti Hartikainen:
>> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:24:48PM +0200, Günter Greschenz wrote:
> Maybe it's ok if I use this opportunity to ask if somebody could
> point me to a "complete idiot's guide to installing the eHD software"

 I've sent some stuff with private mail. Should help you to bring it up
 within a few minutes.
>>> hi,
>>> could you send it to me also ? i'm very interested in this card :-)
>>> thanks, gg
>> I'm also interested to see this information. Wouldn't it be good idea to 
>> publish it on the list, it would be more useful for the 
>> people who are looking for the information =)
> 
> 
> Let me see if it works for Klaus. Once he has his eHD running using the
> stuff that I've collected, i'll publish it either here or in the VDR
> portal.

Falk, thanks a lot for the guidelines - I really appreciate it!

However, I sure won't be able to test this before next weekend,
mabe even later, since I first have to debug the "fast forwarding
in SF2 recordings" problem.
So you might as well just post them on the ML for others to try.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
And how many users are not on this "registered users list"? First time I heard 
of it.Most people follow guides done by other people
and only glimps at the manuals, readme's, etc. And I think you can get vdr with 
apt-get from debian also.

- Original Message - 
From: "Petri Helin" 
To: "VDR Mailing List" 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD


> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, VDR User wrote:
> >
> > I'd suggest posting to the mailing list or both as VDR Portal caters
> > 99% to people who speak german and isn't much help for the very large
> > english-speaking-only VDR community.
> >
>
> I wouldn't say the english-speaking-only VD community is that
> large: At least if you look at the registered users:
> http://www.cadsoft.de/cgi-bin/vdr-counter.pl?action=statist
>
> Perhaps you meant the great non-german-speaking community, who
> communicate in English? ;)
>
> -Petri
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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Petri Helin
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, VDR User wrote:
>
> I'd suggest posting to the mailing list or both as VDR Portal caters
> 99% to people who speak german and isn't much help for the very large
> english-speaking-only VDR community.
>

I wouldn't say the english-speaking-only VD community is that
large: At least if you look at the registered users:
http://www.cadsoft.de/cgi-bin/vdr-counter.pl?action=statist

Perhaps you meant the great non-german-speaking community, who
communicate in English? ;)

-Petri

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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Falk Spitzberg wrote:
>> I'm also interested to see this information. Wouldn't it be good idea to 
>> publish it on the list, it would be more useful for the
>> people who are looking for the information =)
>
> Let me see if it works for Klaus. Once he has his eHD running using the
> stuff that I've collected, i'll publish it either here or in the VDR
> portal.

I'd suggest posting to the mailing list or both as VDR Portal caters
99% to people who speak german and isn't much help for the very large
english-speaking-only VDR community.

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Re: [vdr] How do I listen to a channel's soundtrack and i t's audio description at the same time?

2009-09-07 Thread scott
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:39:27 +0200, Udo Richter  wrote:
> On 02.09.2009 07:49, John Robinson wrote:
>> I would very much like to
>> hear the main programme's soundtrack and the audio description track at
>> the same time, but at the moment, I can only hear one or the other - not
>> both.
> 
> Hmmm, interesting task. However, I don't think that this is possible 
> currently. Output devices are currently designed to handle one audio 
> channel, not multiple at the same time. Mixing them to one would require 
> decompressing and re-compressing them and would probably introduce 
> timing issues.
> 
> There may be a quirked solution like playing back the second channel 
> externally, like connecting to it using mplayer+streamdev, however thats 
> not very comfortable.
> 
> The best solution is probably a dedicated plugin that connects to live 
> view and plays the secondary audio track in parallel. However I don't 
> think that such a plugin exists currently.
> 
Not sure this helps, but mplayer manages to do this with vdr recordings. 
Isn't there a script somewhere that uses mplayer as the playback device?

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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Falk Spitzberg
Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 15:29 +0300 schrieb Antti Hartikainen:
> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:24:48PM +0200, Günter Greschenz wrote:
> > 
> > >>Maybe it's ok if I use this opportunity to ask if somebody could
> > >>point me to a "complete idiot's guide to installing the eHD software"
> > >
> > >
> > >I've sent some stuff with private mail. Should help you to bring it up
> > >within a few minutes.
> > hi,
> > could you send it to me also ? i'm very interested in this card :-)
> > thanks, gg
> 
> I'm also interested to see this information. Wouldn't it be good idea to 
> publish it on the list, it would be more useful for the 
> people who are looking for the information =)


Let me see if it works for Klaus. Once he has his eHD running using the
stuff that I've collected, i'll publish it either here or in the VDR
portal.


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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Antti Hartikainen
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:24:48PM +0200, Günter Greschenz wrote:
> 
> >>Maybe it's ok if I use this opportunity to ask if somebody could
> >>point me to a "complete idiot's guide to installing the eHD software"
> >
> >
> >I've sent some stuff with private mail. Should help you to bring it up
> >within a few minutes.
> hi,
> could you send it to me also ? i'm very interested in this card :-)
> thanks, gg

I'm also interested to see this information. Wouldn't it be good idea to 
publish it on the list, it would be more useful for the 
people who are looking for the information =)

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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Günter Greschenz



Maybe it's ok if I use this opportunity to ask if somebody could
point me to a "complete idiot's guide to installing the eHD software"




I've sent some stuff with private mail. Should help you to bring it up
within a few minutes.

hi,
could you send it to me also ? i'm very interested in this card :-)
thanks, gg
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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-09-07 Thread Falk Spitzberg
Am Samstag, den 05.09.2009, 15:09 +0200 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
> On 03.09.2009 12:10, Falk Spitzberg wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 02.09.2009, 08:49 -0700 schrieb VDR User:
> >> Sounds like your question is more appropriate for the vendors customer
> >> support of that product.
> > 
> > Definitly not, because my question ist only about the VDR core. I am
> > just trying to find out what VDR does different when it transfers data
> > to a device in live TV compared to replay from disk. That's completely
> > independent from any device that's in use.
> > 
> > Maybe that the eHD card is the only output device that crashes on VDR TS
> > replays.
> 
> The following is related to recent developer versions of VDR 1.7.x.
> 
> In live mode (i.e. "Transfer Mode", since the eHD has no tuner)
> the TS data stream is written into a ring buffer by the receiving
> device (e.g. a DVB-S(2) card) and from there it is sent to the
> output device (the eHD plugin) through a call to PlayTs().
> In this case every TS packet is sent to the output device separately.
> 
> During replay data is read from disk and stored in a ring buffer
> that holds entire "frames", which are just a sequence of TS packets
> that make up one video frame (including audio). The output device's
> PlayTs() is called with an entire frame.
> 
> The only real difference between live mode and replay I can see
> is that in live mode TS packets are sent individually to the
> output device, while in replay mode larger blocks of data are
> sent. However, I don't see why this would cause the problems you
> observe.
> 
> AFAIK the Reel plugin requires several patches to the core VDR
> code, so there may well be things I simply don't know of, because
> I haven't looked into the Reel code (yet).
> 
> Maybe it's ok if I use this opportunity to ask if somebody could
> point me to a "complete idiot's guide to installing the eHD software"


I've sent some stuff with private mail. Should help you to bring it up
within a few minutes.


> (meaning the necessary software that goes into the eHD itself, as
> well as the latest version of their plugin). I know, I could search
> for this myself, but I'm sure there's somebody out there who knows
> exactly where to find these ;-) Maybe I'll find the time to actually
> bring up my eHD and adapt the plugin to the latest developer version
> of VDR...
> 
> Klaus
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