[Veritas-bu] Mixed tape drives in library
Hello, we have tape library with LTO4 (FC). We are going to add additional drives to this library but the question is if it is reasonable to add the same drives (LTO4) or add LTO5 ? What is you experience with mixing tapes drives type in libraries ? Regards Przemek -- Doladuj telefon w promocji! http://linkint.pl/f2814 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Major new feature in 7.x release
Hi I am planning to test 7.x release. Can anybody point out any major feature introduced in this release compare to 6.x ? Thank you ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Mixed tape drives in library
Works fine. We used to have mixed LTO levels as we migrated from 2-3-4. Even now we have LTO3 and LTO4 both set as HCART3, but we also are no longer using our LTO3 media (which is frozen). If you want to use both types in a single library set them to different media types. On 09/30/2010 02:21 AM, przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: Hello, we have tape library with LTO4 (FC). We are going to add additional drives to this library but the question is if it is reasonable to add the same drives (LTO4) or add LTO5 ? What is you experience with mixing tapes drives type in libraries ? Regards Przemek -- Doladuj telefon w promocji! http://linkint.pl/f2814 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Nate SandersDigital Motorworks System Administrator (512) 692 - 1038 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Major new feature in 7.x release
Start here http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH126330 be sure to do the checklist (first link in doc) that will then give you lots and lots of links to just about everything you need to know. The Release notes and Addition Operational notes will give you a list of all the new stuff -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of bolobaboo kabootar Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Major new feature in 7.x release Hi I am planning to test 7.x release. Can anybody point out any major feature introduced in this release compare to 6.x ? Thank you ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] MSEO
I have a small NBU 6.5 environment where we are currently using a Decru encryption appliance to secure our backups. We want to get away from the Decru and have chosen to install and setup NetBackup Media Server Encryption Option. I've downloaded the software and manuals, which I'm sitting down to read. Any tips, tricks or pearls of wisdom from those of you out there already running it? Thanks. - HKY ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MSEO
My only tip is to make sure your media server can handle the CPU cycles needed for MSEO. It can be a resource hog. Setup is actually very easy. Have fun -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:36 AM To: NetBackup Mailing List Subject: [Veritas-bu] MSEO I have a small NBU 6.5 environment where we are currently using a Decru encryption appliance to secure our backups. We want to get away from the Decru and have chosen to install and setup NetBackup Media Server Encryption Option. I've downloaded the software and manuals, which I'm sitting down to read. Any tips, tricks or pearls of wisdom from those of you out there already running it? Thanks. - HKY ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MSEO
My little pearl- if your tape drives are capable of hardware encryption ( most are) use kms instead. If you have the same manual as I have it is chapter 6. 1) free - no license required 2) easy set up 3) overhead is on the tape drives and not on the client or media server 4) drawback is you can only have 2 encrypted pools on 6.5 but can have 20 on 7.0 -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:05 AM To: 'Heathe Yeakley'; 'NetBackup Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MSEO My only tip is to make sure your media server can handle the CPU cycles needed for MSEO. It can be a resource hog. Setup is actually very easy. Have fun -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:36 AM To: NetBackup Mailing List Subject: [Veritas-bu] MSEO I have a small NBU 6.5 environment where we are currently using a Decru encryption appliance to secure our backups. We want to get away from the Decru and have chosen to install and setup NetBackup Media Server Encryption Option. I've downloaded the software and manuals, which I'm sitting down to read. Any tips, tricks or pearls of wisdom from those of you out there already running it? Thanks. - HKY ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MSEO
Unfortunately, this particular NBU environment is running LTO2 drives. I'm sure we'll upgrade the library eventually. I didn't know KMS was free. I'll keep this in mind for future installations. One follow up question. The environment in which I'm setting up MSEO is currently running 6.5. I plan on upgrading it to 7.0 in the next 6 months. Which would be better: 1) Upgrade to 7.0 first, then install and configure MSEO 2) Go ahead and install MSEO and get it running. In a few months, upgrade to NBU 7 and deal with any MSEO upgrade issues at that point. -HKY On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: My little pearl- if your tape drives are capable of hardware encryption ( most are) use kms instead. If you have the same manual as I have it is chapter 6. 1) free - no license required 2) easy set up 3) overhead is on the tape drives and not on the client or media server 4) drawback is you can only have 2 encrypted pools on 6.5 but can have 20 on 7.0 -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:05 AM To: 'Heathe Yeakley'; 'NetBackup Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MSEO My only tip is to make sure your media server can handle the CPU cycles needed for MSEO. It can be a resource hog. Setup is actually very easy. Have fun -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:36 AM To: NetBackup Mailing List Subject: [Veritas-bu] MSEO I have a small NBU 6.5 environment where we are currently using a Decru encryption appliance to secure our backups. We want to get away from the Decru and have chosen to install and setup NetBackup Media Server Encryption Option. I've downloaded the software and manuals, which I'm sitting down to read. Any tips, tricks or pearls of wisdom from those of you out there already running it? Thanks. - HKY ___ Veritas-bu maillist - veritas...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - veritas...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Recommendations
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 06:24:59PM -0400, mitch808 wrote: As others mentioned, just step away from VTL's in general. All they are, are disk as the base, with software on top, emulating tape, with a big markup for that software. Just buy plain disk, or re-use disk you may already have, and backup to disk. Add in deduplication that is native now in NBU7, and you have a great combination that is affordable and eliminates a lot of complexity of a black box. But there can be a big price difference. For a VM environment, I'm getting rather good compression. I would have to pay more just for the NBU deduplication licensing (before purchasing the disk) than I would for something like a DataDomain. If you're storing data for longer or replicating, or your deduplication ratio isn't that high, then it tips more to the NBU side. I'm not replicating this data, so the price isn't there just yet for me. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Recommendations
Remember that NB built in dedup has a size limit. For NetBackup 7.0, the maximum deduplication capacity is 32 TBs. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of A Darren Dunham Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:32 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Recommendations On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 06:24:59PM -0400, mitch808 wrote: As others mentioned, just step away from VTL's in general. All they are, are disk as the base, with software on top, emulating tape, with a big markup for that software. Just buy plain disk, or re-use disk you may already have, and backup to disk. Add in deduplication that is native now in NBU7, and you have a great combination that is affordable and eliminates a lot of complexity of a black box. But there can be a big price difference. For a VM environment, I'm getting rather good compression. I would have to pay more just for the NBU deduplication licensing (before purchasing the disk) than I would for something like a DataDomain. If you're storing data for longer or replicating, or your deduplication ratio isn't that high, then it tips more to the NBU side. I'm not replicating this data, so the price isn't there just yet for me. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Expired Backup ID Doesn't Free Up Some Space
I am by no means an expert in TSM. I did manage mainframe HSM environments for many years (and still do, although it doesn't need much tending to). And I dabbled with TSM for a few months. But from what I know, yes, I think you are right about reclaim (it is called recycle on the mainframe). It moves unexpired data from one tape to another, thereby freeing up the space on the source tape that was holding expired images. Cheers Dean On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Mark Hickey mark.hic...@hds.com wrote: I knew someone would pull out some niche backup product from some tiny vendor to hit me in the head with….:-) This is the last I thing I will add to the discussion, as it is a bit off-topic, but for my own curiosity… Dean, are you talking about reclaim? Because I don’t think that is exactly the same thing, though some might argue it is just semantics. If I understand correctly, reclaim copies unexpired images off of partially full tapes onto partially full tapes to increase both the number of full tapes and the number of empty tapes based on a threshold of unexpired capacity. If this is what you are talking about, then while it may in the end support some of what Adrian is doing, it is not what I was referring to. I was saying that I don’t think any backup applications notice an expired image in the middle of a tape, mark the tape used by that image as available, and then write new images on that same space on that same tape. Please help me understand TSM’s capabilities better if I am misinformed about this. Mark Dean wrote: IBM does tape recycling, and has for decades, first on the mainframe, and TSM is heavily based on the same concepts as HSM on the mainframe. They even called it recycle F DFHSM,RECYCLE ALL P(30) EX It means you can mix up your retentions on a single piece of tape media, but it also means you have to dedicate a good proportion of your tape hardware/time to looking after the recycle process (ie - basically doing tape-to-tape copies every day to filter out the expired data). There are pros and cons. Sorry, I have nothing to add to what Mark has said, other than to call out his no vendor does it :) Mark Mark Hickey Principal Technical Consultant HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS 62 Beach Road North Weymouth, MA 02191 O 781.331.3508 C 781.254.6441 mark.hic...@hds.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - veritas...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Script
On Windows u would use perfmon and then NetBackup counts for the tape drives. On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 8:22 PM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: I don't have a script, but for those that might, it would be helpful to know what platform you're on. Unix can use iostat -xzn # (where # is the interval). *Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS* ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ * http://availability.sungard.com/* http://availability.sungard.com/ P *Think before you print* CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. *ccosta@gmail.com* Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 09/18/2010 09:45 AM Please respond to ccosta@gmail.com To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Script Does anyone have a good script to measure tape drive performance? Thank you in advance Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NDMP start notify
Hi All, I have problem when configure ndmp job policy with ndmp_start_notify script, when backup job started, ndmp script should running before backup to tape, but what happen is ndmp script running/triggered at the same time when backup to tape, it cause the data inconsistent. I just copied ndmp script from bpstart script and add some parameter/command. Anyone have a clue / suggestion ? Netbackup : ver 7. Thanks and Regards, Roedy. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Falling short of scratch tapes!!!!
Hi, I have specific issue here in Netbackup 7. Master/media server is same -- solaris 10 Backup is not spanning media. let me put forward an example Policy : A with 3 clients , volume pool : VP1, schedule : Inc Yesterday policy run at scheduled time - took 3 scratch and wrote 70-80 GB data on it, rest tape is empty. Scratch media is assigned VP1 volume pool Today again policy run at scheduled time - took again 3 more scract tapes and wrote 40 - 50 GB data on it, rest tape is empty. Scratch media is assigned VP1 volume pool . and i run a manual backup again for this policy and 3 more scratcn tapes are picked up. So the issue is Netbackup is picking up scratch tapes each time a backup runs and tapes of yesterday and today which still have considerable amt of space left ,are not getting appended. - Checked master and media host properties...spanning is checked for media and disk. - in bp.conf, ALL_Media_Overwrite entry is there in bp.conf - Tapes are not frozen/suspended - Same schedule runs each time - Incremental We are falling short of scratch tapes and have no idea how to fix it. Please help me ! Regards' Sam ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
