Re: [Videolib] Video Cool Dev.Policies Covering Cost and Special Series

[Randal Baier]

re: Debra's question, Randal to Mandel , et al., 

I liked Barb Bergman's idea of setting aside an amount to cover PPR fees. I 
have a running argument with our collection development person about this, 
since he tends to pay for PPR on almost anything we purchase, esp. if the list 
price is "Universities and higher ed. ... $250, includes PPR." i.e We don't 
generally question that published statement. But we've had more than one 
disagreement over a video that can be purchased for $19.95, which will almost 
certainly ONLY be used in the classroom, but which acquisitions will still pay 
PPR "just in case." 

But to Debra's specific points: 

1) no we don't have a policy on this, but anything over $300-400 gets an 
eyebrow raised. e.g. the StarThrower videos of Joel Barker, et al. get a thumbs 
down. We just can't afford it. Or the "Abilene Paradox" managing agreement 
video -- ixnay. I have proposed sharing videos with the requesting dept., even 
suggesting a co-sponsored workshop to recoup some cost, but in general other 
depts. want the library to pay, not their dept. In lieu of policy documents I 
simply write an effusive letter that says no in more words than necessary. 

2) We've agreed to work with both student groups and depts. on these types of 
series, and we will cover PPR *if* there is liklihood that the videos will be 
shown again in regular classes. We work pretty much from a curriculum model. 
One example is a Women and Islam series of six videos that we did over the 
course of a semester. We covered the PPR fees on that and those films have 
continued to be popular in many classes. We have been able to get some matching 
funds a couple times in the past -- it's not a problematic issue at the moment. 

3) We don't have a policy on that -- at least that I know of (to quote Ellen 
DeGeneres). Given my opening gambit you can probably see why. Basically unless 
some dept. wants tp partner with us, we take the hit on PPR. It's more or less 
an assumption that it's the library's job to do that. 

Hope this helps. Please know that I have GOOD relations with my colleagues and 
these disagreements are more like thought pieces rather than internecine 
warfare. PPR, schmeePR, it's more fun to have beer on Fridays (I maintain my 
snobbery and drink mourvèdre) and keep kvetching, than really get serious about 
it. When the money is gone, it's gone. But I keep trying to convince them that 
most of these never leave the classroom context. 

Yours, reb 



- Original Message -
From: "Debra Mandel"  
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:09:10 PM 
Subject: [Videolib] Video Cool Dev.Policies Covering Cost and Special Series 


Dear Colleagues, 


I would appreciate if anyone could send me sample policies or collection 
development excerpts which deal specifically with: 



1. Responding to purchases for single titles from one faculty member over 
$xxx amount (what amount?? 
2. Requests for titles that are part of a one-time series (Humanities 
Dept., Language, special symposium, etc.) How many titles, what amount?? 
3. Policies that covers whose responsibility it is to obtain and pay for 
public performance rights 



For example, I recently had a request from one faculty member who wanted the 
library to purchase a DVD for $650 because she was inviting the filmmaker to 
her class and wanted to show his film. She was not opening this up to a wider 
audience. Rental was about $395. The dept. had no funds to kick in. The library 
will not cover either cost. I had to say no. The distributor would not 
negotiate. 


There have been several requests for film series, more than 6 titles. Neither 
dept. was willing to kick in funds. 


We do not have one media budget—selectors order films from their subject areas, 
along with books. Our budget have been drastically cut due to the current 
climate, increase of e-materials and other steadily climbing resources. 
Oftentimes, I will reach out to other librarians to share in the cost of one 
title, but sometimes I get no feedback. 


Without a policy, librarians are having a difficult time deciding where to draw 
the line. I hate to arbitrarily decide on a price, particularly if the film is 
outstanding, is interdisciplinary. and comes bundled with PPR, so I thought I 
would ask you what you are doing. How do you negotiate, say that depts. must 
kick in ---&age for special events, expensive titles. 


I have been a media librarian for 100 years, and lately I have felt guilty 
saying no. The reality is just getting harder. 


Debra 





Debra H. Mandel, 
Head, Digital Media Design Studio 
Northeastern University Libraries 
360 Huntington Ave. 
200 SL 
Boston, MA 02115 
617-373-4902; 617-373-5409-Fax 

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Re: [Videolib] Video Cool Dev.Policies Covering Cost and Special Series

[Bergman, Barbara J]

Hi Debra-

We generally limit departments to no more than 25% of their library allocation 
for non-book purchases.
If the title seems multi-disciplinary, I'll usually pick it up with my video 
budget.  If it's pricey and rather specialized, we can split the cost between 
their account and mine.
For series, I usually look at per title cost.  They might have to wait awhile.

We've been getting more questions about PPR. Not sure if it's because less 
funding is available elsewhere, or if people are more aware that they need the 
PPR...
We setup up a small account of $1000 where student groups can apply for us to 
buy a film with PPR for them to do a screening. (Criteria: some educational 
purpose, not merely for entertainment)

Sounds like as much of your dilemma is internal funding structure as are the 
departments themselves.  Good luck.
I have to say that $650, it had better be for a great big public event not a 
single class.

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu

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Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[ghandman]

Yeah...I have to keep reminding myself of that, Barb.  I've been living in
an ivy-covered tower in an ivy-covered town for a lng time.

g



> Gary - your mission as a research institution is very different from most
> of ours.
>
> Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota
> State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

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Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[Bergman, Barbara J]

Gary - your mission as a research institution is very different from most of 
ours.

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu


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Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[Bergman, Barbara J]

As a state institution, we let the public borrow almost everything.  They do 
have to run the parking gauntlet to get here, so it's not like we're overrun.  

When a video is 7 days overdue (way sooner than for books), the system 
automatically changes status to Lost and generates a Bill for Lost Materials.
The default cost is $200 plus fees.  
Why $200?  Separate from the cost of educational videos:
It scares them to get a $200 bill for a $15 movie. The DVD usually comes back 
quickly.
Also, when a patron record shows $200 owed, it blocks them from checking out 
anything else.

Loan periods, late fees & replacement costs are the same as for undergraduates. 
Unpaid lost materials can ultimately be taken out of tax returns.
If a patron reports a DVD as lost, we bill them actual cost + $10, up to $200.
  
It's not uncommon for academic libraries to require community & alumni to pay a 
Friends of the Library membership in order to borrow materials.

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu

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[Videolib] Japanese Time Travel Comedy

[Jackson, Sandra F.]

I finally have a chance to schedule that Japanese time travel comedy someone 
recommended years ago, but I can't find the name of it online.  Does anyone 
remember the film?  It was about Japanese college students who made a 
time-travel device.

Thanks,
Sandra

Sandra F. Jackson
Film Program Coordinator
Lumina Theater & Sharky's Box Office
Department of Campus Life
The University of North Carolina Wilmington
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Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[ghandman]

Hi all

This conversation fascinates me, I gotta say.  Here are some of the things
that have strongly militated against a highly liberalized circulation
policy here in Berkeleyville

1.  Primary mission of the collection is to serve teaching and research
needs of the Berkeley campus; secondary mission, to preserve collections
for the long-haul and to ensure availability of scholarly materials for
future generations of teachers and learners.

2.  Most titles owned as single copies, particularly independently
produced and distributed documentaries.

3.  Difficulty in predicting the needs of individual curricula--despite
long-standing attempts to get faculty to reserve in advance.  And
sometimes, if your teaching, you just don't know in advance...

4.  Increasing number of titles that have gone out of distribution and are
difficult if not impossible to purchase if damaged or lost.

5.  High cost of re-acquiring and reprocessing items purchased as
replacements.

6.  Lack of sufficient staff or staff funding to handle the increased
circulation and circulation functions (such as recalls, billing, etc.)

7.  Seriously dwindling staff and materials budgets (and lack of an answer
as to why, in dire times, we'd be expanding our services rather than
consolidating and limiting them).


gary handman


> Chris,
>
> We check out to faculty, staff, students, alumni, general public, the
> entire state of Wyoming. Our circumstances may be much different since we
> are the only 4 year institution in the state  and  a very rural state.  We
> also ILL our collection to Colorado and the entire nation through
> Prospector and WorldCat.  Our losses are minimal  and people are grateful
> for the service we provide. We  borrow  heavily from other libraries as
> well. The borrower is responsible for the loss or damage to any of our
> media as our patrons are responsible for anything they borrow.  We do have
> some titles that cannot be loaned due to distributor restrictions and we
> adhere to that.  Media lending policy is the same as books except the loan
> period is shorter.
>
> Pamela Reeves
> pree...@uwyo.edu
> University of Wyoming
> Libraries-Media
> Dept 3334
> 1000 E. University Ave.
> Laramie, WY 82071
> 307-766-3184
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Matthew
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:34 PM
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit
> students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni
> the same privilege?
>
> Chris,
>
> We have very few restrictions on what media students can borrow and we
> extend that privilege to alumni as well.  Alumni use seems to ebb and flow
> and does not put an undue burden on our resources.
>
> I try to keep our media policy as close to our policy for lending books as
> is possible.
>
> Steven
>
> Steven C. Matthew
> Head of Access Services
> S.E. Wimberly Library
> Florida Atlantic University
> matt...@fau.edu
> 561-297-4027
>
> -Original Message-
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:33 PM
> To: Videolib
> Subject: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students
> to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same
> privilege?
>
> Half of our collection is for student home use but we don't extend that to
> alumni for various reasons - mostly financial and that it falls outside of
> our mission. Yet we loan books to them so I'm softening.  Any useful
> feedback?
>
> --
> Chris Lewis
> Media Librarian
> American University Library
> 202.885.3257
>
> For latest Media Services News visit our blog at
> http://aulibmedia.blogspot.com
>
> or on Facebook
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> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
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> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and vide

Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[Pamela Sue Reeves]

Chris,

We check out to faculty, staff, students, alumni, general public, the entire 
state of Wyoming. Our circumstances may be much different since we are the only 
4 year institution in the state  and  a very rural state.  We also ILL our 
collection to Colorado and the entire nation through Prospector and WorldCat.  
Our losses are minimal  and people are grateful for the service we provide. We  
borrow  heavily from other libraries as well. The borrower is responsible for 
the loss or damage to any of our media as our patrons are responsible for 
anything they borrow.  We do have some titles that cannot be loaned due to 
distributor restrictions and we adhere to that.  Media lending policy is the 
same as books except the loan period is shorter.

Pamela Reeves
pree...@uwyo.edu
University of Wyoming
Libraries-Media
Dept 3334
1000 E. University Ave.
Laramie, WY 82071
307-766-3184


-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Matthew
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:34 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students 
to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same 
privilege?

Chris,

We have very few restrictions on what media students can borrow and we extend 
that privilege to alumni as well.  Alumni use seems to ebb and flow and does 
not put an undue burden on our resources.

I try to keep our media policy as close to our policy for lending books as is 
possible.

Steven

Steven C. Matthew
Head of Access Services
S.E. Wimberly Library
Florida Atlantic University
matt...@fau.edu
561-297-4027

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:33 PM
To: Videolib
Subject: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to 
borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same 
privilege?

Half of our collection is for student home use but we don't extend that to 
alumni for various reasons - mostly financial and that it falls outside of our 
mission. Yet we loan books to them so I'm softening.  Any useful feedback?

--
Chris Lewis
Media Librarian
American University Library
202.885.3257

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Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[Steven Matthew]

Chris,

We have very few restrictions on what media students can borrow and we extend 
that privilege to alumni as well.  Alumni use seems to ebb and flow and does 
not put an undue burden on our resources.

I try to keep our media policy as close to our policy for lending books as is 
possible.

Steven

Steven C. Matthew
Head of Access Services
S.E. Wimberly Library
Florida Atlantic University
matt...@fau.edu
561-297-4027

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:33 PM
To: Videolib
Subject: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to 
borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same 
privilege?

Half of our collection is for student home use but we don't extend
that to alumni for various reasons - mostly financial and that it
falls outside of our mission. Yet we loan books to them so I'm
softening.  Any useful feedback?

-- 
Chris Lewis
Media Librarian
American University Library
202.885.3257

For latest Media Services News visit our blog at
http://aulibmedia.blogspot.com

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Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[Anthony Anderson]

Chris! When we drastically liberalized two years ago our policy for lending
out videos, we decided to extend such privileges to our alumni. Possibly
because parking is so difficult on campus here, we find that few alums--
our "Trojan Family"-- avail themselves of this privilege. What use that 
does come
from alumni is usually from those looking to make use of our rather rich 
collection
of documentary films--many of which are often not readily available even 
here in the

LA area. As far as I know, we have never had an alumnus check out a dvd
and not return it or return it grossly overdue. The alums seem to 
greatly appreciate

the service.

Cheers,
Anthony


***
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Von KleinSmid Library
University of Southern California
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Chris Lewis wrote:


Half of our collection is for student home use but we don't extend
that to alumni for various reasons - mostly financial and that it
falls outside of our mission. Yet we loan books to them so I'm
softening.  Any useful feedback?

 




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Re: [Videolib] Video Cool Dev.Policies Covering Cost and Special Series

[Gail Fedak]

Debra,
I, too, dislike having to ask departments to contribute funds to a 
purchase, but I do so under these circumstances: single title applicable 
primarily to one discipline, =/>$500; series (regardless of # of titles) 
applicable primarily to one department, =/>$750. I also dislike 
purchasing only one or two titles out of a finite series, so I try to 
purchase the whole set, if possible. Understandably, it is getting more 
difficulty to do so with budget cuts. If a single title or series is 
truly multi-disciplinary, I do not ask for contributions to help cover 
the cost. I don't know how this would work in your situation, because 
our Media Library budget is separate from the main library's budget, so 
I don't have to be concerned about dipping into other disciplines' 
"buckets" to cover a purchase.


If the only way the Media Library can purchase a title for the 
collection is with PPR, then we do so if the cost falls below the 
thresholds described above or we get cost sharing. We prefer buying 
titles without PPR, if possible. This is a significant change from our 
prior purchasing guidelines because our use of media has changed and our 
budget is smaller. When we purchase a title without PPR, the department, 
organization, individual, etc.is then responsible to purchase PPR if 
they need it for their specific uses. We will help facilitate the PPR 
purchase, but do not pay for it. Also, if we do have to purchase PPR 
when we acquire a title, we do not purchase additional licenses that may 
be needed for uses outside the original PPR license. For instance, if 
the original PPR license covers non-paying audiences up to 50, and the 
campus user is charging admission and/or is anticipating an audience 
greater than 50, then I will assist in initiating and arranging for a 
PPR license, but will not pay for it.

Hope this is not too muddled to be useful,
Gail

On 9/26/2011 2:09 PM, Mandel, Debra wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

I would appreciate if anyone could send me sample policies or 
collection development excerpts which deal specifically with:


 1. Responding to purchases for single titles from one faculty member
over $xxx amount (what amount??
 2. Requests for titles that are part of a one-time series (Humanities
Dept., Language, special symposium, etc.) How many titles, what
amount??
 3. Policies that covers whose responsibility it is to obtain and pay
for public performance rights


For example, I recently had a request from one faculty member who 
wanted the library to purchase a DVD for $650 because she was inviting 
the filmmaker to her class and wanted to show his film.  She was not 
opening this up to a wider audience.  Rental was about $395.  The 
dept. had no funds to kick in.  The library will not cover either 
cost. I had to say no. The distributor would not negotiate.


There have been several requests for film series, more than 6 titles. 
 Neither dept. was willing to kick in funds.


We do not have one media budget---selectors order films from their 
subject areas, along with books. Our budget have been drastically cut 
due to the current climate, increase of e-materials and other steadily 
climbing resources. Oftentimes, I will reach out to other librarians 
to share in the cost of one title, but sometimes I get no feedback.


Without a policy, librarians are having a difficult time deciding 
where to draw the line.  I hate to arbitrarily decide on a price, 
particularly if the film is outstanding, is interdisciplinary. and 
comes bundled with PPR, so I thought I would ask you what you are 
doing. How do you negotiate, say that depts. must kick in ---&age for 
special events, expensive titles.


I have been a media librarian for 100 years, and lately I have felt 
guilty saying no. The reality is just getting harder.


Debra

Debra H. Mandel,
Head, Digital Media Design Studio
Northeastern University Libraries
360 Huntington Ave.
200 SL
Boston,  MA 02115
617-373-4902;  617-373-5409-Fax





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--

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Director, Media Resources

Middle Tennessee State University

Murfreesboro, TN37132

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Re: [Videolib] PPR vs. Fair use question

[Moshiri, Farhad]

Thank Gary. I thought so too.

Farhad

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Subject: Re: [Videolib] PPR vs. Fair use question

Hi Farhad

The use you describe requires public performance rights.

Doesn't matter what kind of film you show, whether or not you charge
entrance, or whether the audience is composed of students only or others.
Once you show an entire work outside of the home or outside of
face-to-face teaching (i.e. as part of regularly-scheduled classes)

A fair use application might be, for instance, showing a short clip or two
as part of an extra-curricular program...but showing a whole film in those
contexts require PPR.

gary handman


> Dear all,
>
> I'm sure this has been discussed here before. But I need to refresh my
> memory. If a faculty at a university wants to establish an educational
> group or a club (like a book club) inside his department and the members
> are all students at the university and wants to show films for that group,
> does it fall in fair use category and the films do not need PPR or does it
> constitute a public performance? Does it matter if the films are
> documentaries or feature films? Members of the group are registered for
> that group that works like a course but there is no credit for it. Thanks.
>
> Farhad Moshiri
> Audiovisual Librarian
> University of the Incarnate Word
> San Antonio, TX
>
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Re: [Videolib] PPR vs. Fair use question

[ghandman]

Hi Farhad

The use you describe requires public performance rights.

Doesn't matter what kind of film you show, whether or not you charge
entrance, or whether the audience is composed of students only or others. 
Once you show an entire work outside of the home or outside of
face-to-face teaching (i.e. as part of regularly-scheduled classes)

A fair use application might be, for instance, showing a short clip or two
as part of an extra-curricular program...but showing a whole film in those
contexts require PPR.

gary handman


> Dear all,
>
> I'm sure this has been discussed here before. But I need to refresh my
> memory. If a faculty at a university wants to establish an educational
> group or a club (like a book club) inside his department and the members
> are all students at the university and wants to show films for that group,
> does it fall in fair use category and the films do not need PPR or does it
> constitute a public performance? Does it matter if the films are
> documentaries or feature films? Members of the group are registered for
> that group that works like a course but there is no credit for it. Thanks.
>
> Farhad Moshiri
> Audiovisual Librarian
> University of the Incarnate Word
> San Antonio, TX
>
> 
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> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
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[Videolib] PPR vs. Fair use question

[Moshiri, Farhad]

Dear all,

I'm sure this has been discussed here before. But I need to refresh my memory. 
If a faculty at a university wants to establish an educational group or a club 
(like a book club) inside his department and the members are all students at 
the university and wants to show films for that group, does it fall in fair use 
category and the films do not need PPR or does it constitute a public 
performance? Does it matter if the films are documentaries or feature films? 
Members of the group are registered for that group that works like a course but 
there is no credit for it. Thanks.

Farhad Moshiri
Audiovisual Librarian
University of the Incarnate Word
San Antonio, TX


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[Videolib] Question for academic librarians that permit students to borrow certain videos for home viewing - Do you provide alumni the same privilege?

[Chris Lewis]

Half of our collection is for student home use but we don't extend
that to alumni for various reasons - mostly financial and that it
falls outside of our mission. Yet we loan books to them so I'm
softening.  Any useful feedback?

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[Videolib] Video Cool Dev.Policies Covering Cost and Special Series

[Mandel, Debra]

Dear Colleagues,

I would appreciate if anyone could send me sample policies or collection 
development excerpts which deal specifically with:


 1.  Responding to purchases for single titles from one faculty member over 
$xxx amount (what amount??
 2.  Requests for titles that are part of a one-time series (Humanities Dept., 
Language, special symposium, etc.) How many titles, what amount??
 3.  Policies that covers whose responsibility it is to obtain and pay for 
public performance rights

For example, I recently had a request from one faculty member who wanted the 
library to purchase a DVD for $650 because she was inviting the filmmaker to 
her class and wanted to show his film.  She was not opening this up to a wider 
audience.  Rental was about $395.  The dept. had no funds to kick in.  The 
library will not cover either cost. I had to say no. The distributor would not 
negotiate.

There have been several requests for film series, more than 6 titles.  Neither 
dept. was willing to kick in funds.

We do not have one media budget—selectors order films from their subject areas, 
along with books. Our budget have been drastically cut due to the current 
climate, increase of e-materials and other steadily climbing resources. 
Oftentimes, I will reach out to other librarians to share in the cost of one 
title, but sometimes I get no feedback.

Without a policy, librarians are having a difficult time deciding where to draw 
the line.  I hate to arbitrarily decide on a price, particularly if the film is 
outstanding, is interdisciplinary. and comes bundled with PPR, so I thought I 
would ask you what you are doing. How do you negotiate, say that depts. must 
kick in ---&age for special events, expensive titles.

I have been a media librarian for 100 years, and lately I have felt guilty 
saying no. The reality is just getting harder.

Debra

Debra H. Mandel,
Head, Digital Media Design Studio
Northeastern University Libraries
360 Huntington Ave.
200 SL
Boston,  MA 02115
617-373-4902;  617-373-5409-Fax



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Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

[Jessica Rosner]

Thanks I would think that would be the policy. Is there a standard
fee? Good packing and insurance do cost. As a practical matter it is
hard to get reliable insurance on damage. Usually anything past $100 (
the standard) and UPS.FX & USPS will balk. To me the key is good
packing and tracking.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Maloy, Vicky  wrote:
> “…deciding just who or which library would be responsible…”
>
>
>
> No, actually it’s established that the instant the materials leave the
> lending library, they become the responsibility of the borrowing library.
> Which can cause for bad feelings if the materials are sent without insurance
> or good packing materials.
>
>
>
> http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/rusa/resources/guidelines/interlibrary.cfm
> (See 4.8)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderson
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:47 AM
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD
>
>
>
> Also with the film retailing for $400, I cannot think that too many
> institutions would be too willing to want to lend out such an expensive
> item on ILL. Items sent out on ILL do (occasionally) get lost in the mail,
> or do not get returned by the patron doing the borrowing, or get
> damaged somehow--something very much prone to aging VHS tapes.
> And deciding just who or which library  would be responsible
> for making up the loss would be no small mess in itself.
>
> Best,
> Anthony Anderson
>
> ***
> Anthony E. Anderson
> Social Studies and Arts & Humanities Librarian
> Von KleinSmid Library
> University of Southern California
> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182
> (213) 740-1190 antho...@usc.edu
> "Wind, regen, zon, of kou,
> Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou."
> *
>
>
>
>
> Nellie J Chenault/FS/VCU wrote:
>
> Most of the Zipporah films have purchase agreements restricting use to your
> institution.  ILL may be difficult!
>
> Good luck.
>
> Nell Chenault
> Research Librarian for Film and Music
> VCU Libraries
> 804.828.2070
>
>
>
> From:        "Wochna, Lorraine" 
> To:        "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
> Date:        09/25/2011 06:29 PM
> Subject:        [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD
> Sent by:        videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
>
> 
>
>
> HI all,
>
> I am looking for Shirley Clarke's "Cool World" for purchase.
> I can get it here:  http://shop.vendio.com/HARDTOFINDFILMS/
> But not sure if it is legit (I feel certain it is not).
>
> I see Zipporah has it on VHS for $400 (that's all) and it is not available
> in DVD.
>
> >From Worldcat most of the copies are from Zipporah, and one from 'Nostalgia
> Collector" which I don't think is in business anymore.  If I have to I will
> ILL this, because $400 for VHS seems high, but I don't know the film that
> well and I could be mistaken.
>
> Any light on this would be appreciated.
>
> thanks
> Lorraine
>
>
> lorraine wochna
> Alden Library, Ohio University
> Instruction Coordinator
> Subjects:  African American Studies, English, Film & Theatre
> T: 740 597 1238
> http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/profile/lorraine
>
>
>
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> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>



-- 
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Media Consultant
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212-627-1785 (land line)
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Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

[Bergman, Barbara J]

1. When materials are sent out through ILL and something happens to it before 
it comes home, the borrowing library pays. Period.  (You should be worried 
about what your own patrons are borrowing, not what you're sending out.

2. But Zipporah Films usually have licensing restrictions that include no ILL.  
Which is very rude of them, in my opinion. None of us can afford to buy 
everything.

3. Not sure where Section 108 came into this convo since it wasn't part of the 
original request...  But the reasonable cost clause would only apply when a 
title is no longer available for purchase from the original distributor.  You 
can't say "we don't like the distributor's price" and make a copy.

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu


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Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

[Anthony Anderson]

Not a dumb question at all. An institution could send back a borrowed
damaged VHS tape claiming that it was sent from the lending library
that way, which that library adamantly denies. And it goes back
and forth in a most unpleasant fashion--especially when it concerns
big ticket items.  I've heard of such things happening.
Which is why--among many other reasons--we here at USC never
lend out out DVDs or VHS tapes on ILL.

Cheers,
Anthony







Jessica Rosner wrote:


Dumb question. Setting aside the ILL restriction by Zipporah why would
the loaning institution not be responsible for the replacement cost?
Seems pretty basic to a non librarian unless there was some debate on
how the item was lost or damaged. I would hope libraries have a policy
of insisting that any out of print or expensive item if loaned only by
sent by trackable & insured method ( I think FX ground would be best
myself).

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Anthony Anderson  wrote:
 


Also with the film retailing for $400, I cannot think that too many
institutions would be too willing to want to lend out such an expensive
item on ILL. Items sent out on ILL do (occasionally) get lost in the mail,
or do not get returned by the patron doing the borrowing, or get
damaged somehow--something very much prone to aging VHS tapes.
And deciding just who or which library  would be responsible
for making up the loss would be no small mess in itself.

Best,
Anthony Anderson

***
Anthony E. Anderson
Social Studies and Arts & Humanities Librarian
Von KleinSmid Library
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182
(213) 740-1190 antho...@usc.edu
"Wind, regen, zon, of kou,
Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou."
*




Nellie J Chenault/FS/VCU wrote:

Most of the Zipporah films have purchase agreements restricting use to your
institution.  ILL may be difficult!

Good luck.

Nell Chenault
Research Librarian for Film and Music
VCU Libraries
804.828.2070



From:"Wochna, Lorraine" 
To:"videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
Date:09/25/2011 06:29 PM
Subject:[Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD
Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu



HI all,

I am looking for Shirley Clarke's "Cool World" for purchase.
I can get it here:  http://shop.vendio.com/HARDTOFINDFILMS/
But not sure if it is legit (I feel certain it is not).

I see Zipporah has it on VHS for $400 (that's all) and it is not available
in DVD.


From Worldcat most of the copies are from Zipporah, and one from 'Nostalgia

Collector" which I don't think is in business anymore.  If I have to I will
ILL this, because $400 for VHS seems high, but I don't know the film that
well and I could be mistaken.

Any light on this would be appreciated.

thanks
Lorraine


lorraine wochna
Alden Library, Ohio University
Instruction Coordinator
Subjects:  African American Studies, English, Film & Theatre
T: 740 597 1238
http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/profile/lorraine




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Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

[Maloy, Vicky]

"...deciding just who or which library would be responsible..."

No, actually it's established that the instant the materials leave the lending 
library, they become the responsibility of the borrowing library.  Which can 
cause for bad feelings if the materials are sent without insurance or good 
packing materials.

http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/rusa/resources/guidelines/interlibrary.cfm 
(See 4.8)


From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:47 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

Also with the film retailing for $400, I cannot think that too many
institutions would be too willing to want to lend out such an expensive
item on ILL. Items sent out on ILL do (occasionally) get lost in the mail,
or do not get returned by the patron doing the borrowing, or get
damaged somehow--something very much prone to aging VHS tapes.
And deciding just who or which library  would be responsible
for making up the loss would be no small mess in itself.

Best,
Anthony Anderson

***
Anthony E. Anderson
Social Studies and Arts & Humanities Librarian
Von KleinSmid Library
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182
(213) 740-1190 
antho...@usc.edu
"Wind, regen, zon, of kou,
Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou."
*




Nellie J Chenault/FS/VCU wrote:
Most of the Zipporah films have purchase agreements restricting use to your 
institution.  ILL may be difficult!

Good luck.

Nell Chenault
Research Librarian for Film and Music
VCU Libraries
804.828.2070



From:"Wochna, Lorraine" 
To:"videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 

Date:09/25/2011 06:29 PM
Subject:[Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD
Sent by:
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu




HI all,

I am looking for Shirley Clarke's "Cool World" for purchase.
I can get it here:  http://shop.vendio.com/HARDTOFINDFILMS/
But not sure if it is legit (I feel certain it is not).

I see Zipporah has it on VHS for $400 (that's all) and it is not available in 
DVD.

>From Worldcat most of the copies are from Zipporah, and one from 'Nostalgia 
>Collector" which I don't think is in business anymore.  If I have to I will 
>ILL this, because $400 for VHS seems high, but I don't know the film that well 
>and I could be mistaken.

Any light on this would be appreciated.

thanks
Lorraine


lorraine wochna
Alden Library, Ohio University
Instruction Coordinator
Subjects:  African American Studies, English, Film & Theatre
T: 740 597 1238
http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/profile/lorraine


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distributors.

Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

[Jessica Rosner]

Dumb question. Setting aside the ILL restriction by Zipporah why would
the loaning institution not be responsible for the replacement cost?
Seems pretty basic to a non librarian unless there was some debate on
how the item was lost or damaged. I would hope libraries have a policy
of insisting that any out of print or expensive item if loaned only by
sent by trackable & insured method ( I think FX ground would be best
myself).

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Anthony Anderson  wrote:
> Also with the film retailing for $400, I cannot think that too many
> institutions would be too willing to want to lend out such an expensive
> item on ILL. Items sent out on ILL do (occasionally) get lost in the mail,
> or do not get returned by the patron doing the borrowing, or get
> damaged somehow--something very much prone to aging VHS tapes.
> And deciding just who or which library  would be responsible
> for making up the loss would be no small mess in itself.
>
> Best,
> Anthony Anderson
>
> ***
> Anthony E. Anderson
> Social Studies and Arts & Humanities Librarian
> Von KleinSmid Library
> University of Southern California
> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182
> (213) 740-1190 antho...@usc.edu
> "Wind, regen, zon, of kou,
> Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou."
> *
>
>
>
>
> Nellie J Chenault/FS/VCU wrote:
>
> Most of the Zipporah films have purchase agreements restricting use to your
> institution.  ILL may be difficult!
>
> Good luck.
>
> Nell Chenault
> Research Librarian for Film and Music
> VCU Libraries
> 804.828.2070
>
>
>
> From:        "Wochna, Lorraine" 
> To:        "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
> Date:        09/25/2011 06:29 PM
> Subject:        [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD
> Sent by:        videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
> 
>
>
> HI all,
>
> I am looking for Shirley Clarke's "Cool World" for purchase.
> I can get it here:  http://shop.vendio.com/HARDTOFINDFILMS/
> But not sure if it is legit (I feel certain it is not).
>
> I see Zipporah has it on VHS for $400 (that's all) and it is not available
> in DVD.
>
> >From Worldcat most of the copies are from Zipporah, and one from 'Nostalgia
> Collector" which I don't think is in business anymore.  If I have to I will
> ILL this, because $400 for VHS seems high, but I don't know the film that
> well and I could be mistaken.
>
> Any light on this would be appreciated.
>
> thanks
> Lorraine
>
>
> lorraine wochna
> Alden Library, Ohio University
> Instruction Coordinator
> Subjects:  African American Studies, English, Film & Theatre
> T: 740 597 1238
> http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/profile/lorraine
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
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VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

[Anthony Anderson]

Also with the film retailing for $400, I cannot think that too many
institutions would be too willing to want to lend out such an expensive
item on ILL. Items sent out on ILL do (occasionally) get lost in the mail,
or do not get returned by the patron doing the borrowing, or get
damaged somehow--something very much prone to aging VHS tapes.
And deciding just who or which library  would be responsible
for making up the loss would be no small mess in itself.

Best,
Anthony Anderson

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Social Studies and Arts & Humanities Librarian
Von KleinSmid Library
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182
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Nellie J Chenault/FS/VCU wrote:

Most of the Zipporah films have purchase agreements restricting use to 
your institution.  ILL may be difficult!


Good luck.

Nell Chenault
Research Librarian for Film and Music
VCU Libraries
804.828.2070



From:"Wochna, Lorraine" 
To:"videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
Date:09/25/2011 06:29 PM
Subject:[Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD
Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu




HI all,

I am looking for Shirley Clarke's "Cool World" for purchase.
I can get it here:  http://shop.vendio.com/HARDTOFINDFILMS/
But not sure if it is legit (I feel certain it is not).

I see Zipporah has it on VHS for $400 (that's all) and it is not 
available in DVD.


>From Worldcat most of the copies are from Zipporah, and one from 
'Nostalgia Collector" which I don't think is in business anymore.  If 
I have to I will ILL this, because $400 for VHS seems high, but I 
don't know the film that well and I could be mistaken.  


Any light on this would be appreciated.

thanks
Lorraine


lorraine wochna
Alden Library, Ohio University
Instruction Coordinator
Subjects:  African American Studies, English, Film & Theatre
T: 740 597 1238
http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/profile/lorraine




VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD

[Nellie J Chenault/FS/VCU]

Most of the Zipporah films have purchase agreements restricting use to 
your institution.  ILL may be difficult!

Good luck.

Nell Chenault
Research Librarian for Film and Music
VCU Libraries
804.828.2070



From:   "Wochna, Lorraine" 
To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
Date:   09/25/2011 06:29 PM
Subject:[Videolib] DVD vendor Q - COOL WORLD
Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu



HI all,

I am looking for Shirley Clarke's "Cool World" for purchase.
I can get it here:  http://shop.vendio.com/HARDTOFINDFILMS/
But not sure if it is legit (I feel certain it is not). 

I see Zipporah has it on VHS for $400 (that's all) and it is not available 
in DVD.

>From Worldcat most of the copies are from Zipporah, and one from 
'Nostalgia Collector" which I don't think is in business anymore.  If I 
have to I will ILL this, because $400 for VHS seems high, but I don't know 
the film that well and I could be mistaken. 

Any light on this would be appreciated.

thanks
Lorraine


lorraine wochna
Alden Library, Ohio University
Instruction Coordinator
Subjects:  African American Studies, English, Film & Theatre
T: 740 597 1238
http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/profile/lorraine



VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of 
issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic 
control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in 
libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve 
as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of 
communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video 
producers and distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.