Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread elizabeth mcmahon
I have never hesitated on acquistioning any "Great Courses"  for a moment. They 
circulate heavily, are heartily appreciated and are a worthwhile and 
valuable investment. Some of the best money spent, I say that from experience.  
Don't overthink this one. To let you know, I am coming from a public librarian 
perspective, but I'd actually think that would be helpful.


Elizabeth McMahon
 
 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python


From: CAPLAN Victoria F 
>To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [Videolib] great courses
>
>Hi Rhonda,
>
>I select them for purchase as well. Some students like them to supplement
>their courses, or to refresh (e.g. someone who jhas been out in the work
>place for several years doing an MSc in civil engineering who needs to
>refresh on fluid dynamics).
>
>Others I select for general education for students interest. For example,
>we have no African Studies courses at HKUST, so the 18 hour "African
>Experience" course is useful for any students who want to learn more about
>the history and cultures of Africa.
>
>
>- Victoria Caplan
>HKUST Libarry
>Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
>
>
>> Rhonda,
>> I had to purchase many of them for a faculty member who insisted they were
>> the most amazing things ever.  So be it.  Most of my colleagues did not
>> agree, but some faculty do use certain Courses because they do like the
>> content.  I'd be happy to let you know which ones are used the most.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lorraine
>> Alden Library
>> Ohio U
>>
>
>
>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
>relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
>preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
>related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
>working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
>between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
>distributors.
>
>
>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread CAPLAN Victoria F
Hi Rhonda,

I select them for purchase as well. Some students like them to supplement
their courses, or to refresh (e.g. someone who jhas been out in the work
place for several years doing an MSc in civil engineering who needs to
refresh on fluid dynamics).

Others I select for general education for students interest. For example,
we have no African Studies courses at HKUST, so the 18 hour "African
Experience" course is useful for any students who want to learn more about
the history and cultures of Africa.


- Victoria Caplan
HKUST Libarry
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology


> Rhonda,
> I had to purchase many of them for a faculty member who insisted they were
> the most amazing things ever.  So be it.  Most of my colleagues did not
> agree, but some faculty do use certain Courses because they do like the
> content.  I'd be happy to let you know which ones are used the most.
>
> Best,
> Lorraine
> Alden Library
> Ohio U
>


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Dorfman, Andrew
A few years ago, we received a donation of pretty much the entire library of 
great courses.  They are quite popular and a limited number of faculty find 
them useful.  For the most part, it's students and special borrowers who 
actually check them out.

It's also important to note that many of these are audio-only CDs and, indeed, 
those are our most popular GC titles.  They're always in demand during campus 
down times when faculty, staff and students are traveling.  As far as I can 
tell, they're not used in the classroom.

Andy
Regis University Library

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Griest, Bryan
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:54 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] great courses

They are indeed talking heads, but I think they are pretty darn good ones-our 
patrons consistently rate them highly. Essentially they are taped university 
course lectures. Most likely not meant for academic libraries, given that they 
would be competing for your own professors' classes, but that's their problem!
; )
Bryan Griest
Glendale Public Library

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:42 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] great courses

Hi everyone,
I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,
And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong?

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

Just curious,
Rhonda

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu|<mailto:rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu|> 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu<http://library.lmu.edu/>
 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python





VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Rosen, Rhonda J.
Thanks everyone - I'll give them a sale and see how it works for our faculty.
Rhonda

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Troy Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:01 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] great courses

here at W&M, if someone really really wants them, we'd get it.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 wrote:
> Ug!
>
> It's interesting having been around a "high-class" institutional joint
> like Berkeley for so many years.  I cannot tell you the number of times
> I've suspected faculty of using videos as a way of worming out of teaching
> for one reason or another.  At least in those instances the stuff they
> were showing usually had some intrinsic interest, rather than being a
> talking head doing the lecturing they should have been doing...  Great
> Courses, indeed!
>
> Gary
>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've
>> tried to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking
>> heads kind of productions,
>> And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut
>> am I wrong?
>>
>> Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20
>> - ½ hour lectures.lots of space taken up
>>
>> Just curious,
>> Rhonda
>>
>> Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
>> William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
>> One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
>> rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
>> http://library.lmu.edu<http://library.lmu.edu/>
>>  "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where
>> people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of
>> employing wild animals as librarians."
>> --Monty Python
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
> 510-643-8566
> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>
> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
> --Francois Truffaut
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
> distributors.
>



-- 
M. Troy Davis | (757) 279-8871
Director, Swem Media Center
Earl Gregg Swem Library
The College of William & Mary
mtd...@wm.edu
-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/swemmedia/
http://www.facebook.com/swemmedia
http://www.youtube.com/swemmedia

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Troy Davis
here at W&M, if someone really really wants them, we'd get it.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 wrote:
> Ug!
>
> It's interesting having been around a "high-class" institutional joint
> like Berkeley for so many years.  I cannot tell you the number of times
> I've suspected faculty of using videos as a way of worming out of teaching
> for one reason or another.  At least in those instances the stuff they
> were showing usually had some intrinsic interest, rather than being a
> talking head doing the lecturing they should have been doing...  Great
> Courses, indeed!
>
> Gary
>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've
>> tried to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking
>> heads kind of productions,
>> And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut
>> am I wrong?
>>
>> Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20
>> - ½ hour lectures.lots of space taken up
>>
>> Just curious,
>> Rhonda
>>
>> Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
>> William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
>> One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
>> rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
>> http://library.lmu.edu
>>  "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where
>> people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of
>> employing wild animals as librarians."
>> --Monty Python
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
> 510-643-8566
> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>
> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
> --Francois Truffaut
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
> distributors.
>



-- 
M. Troy Davis | (757) 279-8871
Director, Swem Media Center
Earl Gregg Swem Library
The College of William & Mary
mtd...@wm.edu
-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/swemmedia/
http://www.facebook.com/swemmedia
http://www.youtube.com/swemmedia

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Tiffany Hudson
I work for the Salt Lake City Public Library and these courses are extremely 
popular!  But I always wait until they go on sale. They offer every course in 
their catalog at a sale price at least once each year.

- Original Message -
From: "Rhonda J. Rosen" 
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:41:43 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: [Videolib] great courses





Hi everyone, 

I’ve got a faculty who wants to order one of those “Great Courses.” I’ve tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions, 

And basically a substitute for a teacher, rather than a supplement….but am I 
wrong? 



Do any of you purchase them for your collections….they are often like 20 – ½ 
hour lectures…..lots of space taken up…. 



Just curious, 

Rhonda 



Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services 
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University 
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659 
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| 
http://library.lmu.edu 

"You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit 
in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild 
animals as librarians." 
--Monty Python 










VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

-- 
Tiffany Hudson
Audio-Visual Selector
Salt Lake City Public Library
210 East 400 South
Salt Lake City, UT  84111
801-322-8161
801-524-8200
thud...@slcpl.org


The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. ~Eleanor 
Roosevelt

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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Pat Mcgee
We have three: Higher Mathematics, Joy of Science, and Calculus Made Clear.  
The Calculus probably gets the most usage.  Users have been quite positive 
about it.

Best.

Pat McGee

Coordinator of Media Services

Volpe Library and Media Center

Tennessee Technological University

Campus Box 5066

Cookeville, TN 38505

931-372-3544

 

 

 

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:42 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] great courses

 

Hi everyone,

I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,

And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong? 

 

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

 

Just curious,

Rhonda

 

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu <http://library.lmu.edu/> 

 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python

 

 

 

 

 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread ghandman
Ug!

It's interesting having been around a "high-class" institutional joint
like Berkeley for so many years.  I cannot tell you the number of times
I've suspected faculty of using videos as a way of worming out of teaching
for one reason or another.  At least in those instances the stuff they
were showing usually had some intrinsic interest, rather than being a
talking head doing the lecturing they should have been doing...  Great
Courses, indeed!

Gary


> Hi everyone,
> I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've
> tried to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking
> heads kind of productions,
> And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut
> am I wrong?
>
> Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20
> - ½ hour lectures.lots of space taken up
>
> Just curious,
> Rhonda
>
> Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
> William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
> One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
> rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
> http://library.lmu.edu
>  "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where
> people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of
> employing wild animals as librarians."
> --Monty Python
>
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

"I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself."
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Griest, Bryan
They are indeed talking heads, but I think they are pretty darn good ones-our 
patrons consistently rate them highly. Essentially they are taped university 
course lectures. Most likely not meant for academic libraries, given that they 
would be competing for your own professors' classes, but that's their problem!

; )

Bryan Griest

Glendale Public Library

 

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:42 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] great courses

 

Hi everyone,

I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,

And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong? 

 

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

 

Just curious,

Rhonda

 

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu <http://library.lmu.edu/> 

 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python

 

 

 

 

 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Wochna, Lorraine
Rhonda,
I had to purchase many of them for a faculty member who insisted they were the 
most amazing things ever.  So be it.  Most of my colleagues did not agree, but 
some faculty do use certain Courses because they do like the content.  I'd be 
happy to let you know which ones are used the most.

Best,
Lorraine
Alden Library
Ohio U

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:42 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] great courses

Hi everyone,
I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,
And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong?

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

Just curious,
Rhonda

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu|<mailto:rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu|> 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu<http://library.lmu.edu/>
 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python





VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


[Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Rosen, Rhonda J.
Hi everyone,
I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those "Great Courses."  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,
And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong?

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

Just curious,
Rhonda

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu
 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python





VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.