Re: Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-26 Thread Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas

On Wed, Mar 25, at 11:03 Paris wrote:
> quote: "it is not possible to use greek characters in command mode"
> 
> May I ask why is that so? You said "command line" in our private
> exchange and I didn't understand what you were talking about. 
> 

>From :help 'langmap'
Your language characters will be understood as normal vim English characters
(according to the langmap mappings) in the following cases:
  o Normal/Visual mode (commands, buffer/register names, user mappings)
  o Insert/Replace Mode: Register names after CTRL-R
  o Insert/Replace Mode: Mappings
 Characters entered in Command-line mode will NOT be affected by
 this option.

Regards,
Agathoklis

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Re: Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-25 Thread Paris

quote: "it is not possible to use greek characters in command mode"

May I ask why is that so? You said "command line" in our private
exchange and I didn't understand what you were talking about. 

landmap is still great for me. When in command mode you can see what you
type and switch.




On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 22:48 +0200, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, at 10:28 Paris wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 20:58 +0200, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote:
> > > Γειά σου Πάρη,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Mar 25, at 08:11 Paris wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I am using vim to edit documents in greek and it is really frustrating
> > > > to have to alt_shift all the time to enter commands. Can vim ignore the
> > > > language when in command mode? If not, can I have it toggling the
> > > > language while switching to command mode? 
> > > 
> > > This can be partly solved by using the 'langmap' option, see help 
> > > 'langmap'
> > > for details, where is also a specific example for the greek language.
> > > 
> > > However, until recently (patch 7.2.109) this option was broken for
> > > multibyte locales and judging from the headers of your email this also
> > > should apply to you.
> > > 
> > > So the recommended solution is to upgrade Vim (current patchlevel is
> > > 148).
> > > 
> > 
> > I gave langmap a chance but it has problems... Actually the same
> > problems that occur if I map all greek characters one by one to the
> > appropriate english ones with map.
> >  ":" wont work neither will command sequences like "gg"
> 
> All the normal commands and regular motions should work out of the box
> (they do for me).
> As I already told you in our private exchange, is not possible to use
> greek characters in command mode, thus is not supported by 'langmap' or
> any other known way to me.
> There is also another patch By Konstantin Korikov for 7.0 that you can use
> CTRL-* in GTK-Gui but I never used it.
> 
> http://lostclus.linux.kiev.ua/Other_Works/Patches?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=vim70-langmapctrl.patch
> 
> Regards,
> Agathoklis
> 
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-25 Thread Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas

On Wed, Mar 25, at 10:28 Paris wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 20:58 +0200, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote:
> > Γειά σου Πάρη,
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 25, at 08:11 Paris wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I am using vim to edit documents in greek and it is really frustrating
> > > to have to alt_shift all the time to enter commands. Can vim ignore the
> > > language when in command mode? If not, can I have it toggling the
> > > language while switching to command mode? 
> > 
> > This can be partly solved by using the 'langmap' option, see help 'langmap'
> > for details, where is also a specific example for the greek language.
> > 
> > However, until recently (patch 7.2.109) this option was broken for
> > multibyte locales and judging from the headers of your email this also
> > should apply to you.
> > 
> > So the recommended solution is to upgrade Vim (current patchlevel is
> > 148).
> > 
> 
> I gave langmap a chance but it has problems... Actually the same
> problems that occur if I map all greek characters one by one to the
> appropriate english ones with map.
>  ":" wont work neither will command sequences like "gg"

All the normal commands and regular motions should work out of the box
(they do for me).
As I already told you in our private exchange, is not possible to use
greek characters in command mode, thus is not supported by 'langmap' or
any other known way to me.
There is also another patch By Konstantin Korikov for 7.0 that you can use
CTRL-* in GTK-Gui but I never used it.

http://lostclus.linux.kiev.ua/Other_Works/Patches?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=vim70-langmapctrl.patch

Regards,
Agathoklis

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Re: Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-25 Thread Paris

Ignore my last mail!!! 
langmap works fine and I have to thank Agathoklis!


On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 22:28 +0200, Paris wrote:
> I gave langmap a chance but it has problems... Actually the same
> problems that occur if I map all greek characters one by one to the
> appropriate english ones with map.
>  ":" wont work neither will command sequences like "gg"
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 20:58 +0200, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote:
> > Γειά σου Πάρη,
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 25, at 08:11 Paris wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I am using vim to edit documents in greek and it is really frustrating
> > > to have to alt_shift all the time to enter commands. Can vim ignore the
> > > language when in command mode? If not, can I have it toggling the
> > > language while switching to command mode? 
> > 
> > This can be partly solved by using the 'langmap' option, see help 'langmap'
> > for details, where is also a specific example for the greek language.
> > 
> > However, until recently (patch 7.2.109) this option was broken for
> > multibyte locales and judging from the headers of your email this also
> > should apply to you.
> > 
> > So the recommended solution is to upgrade Vim (current patchlevel is
> > 148).
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Agathoklis
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-25 Thread Paris

I gave langmap a chance but it has problems... Actually the same
problems that occur if I map all greek characters one by one to the
appropriate english ones with map.
 ":" wont work neither will command sequences like "gg"


On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 20:58 +0200, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote:
> Γειά σου Πάρη,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 25, at 08:11 Paris wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am using vim to edit documents in greek and it is really frustrating
> > to have to alt_shift all the time to enter commands. Can vim ignore the
> > language when in command mode? If not, can I have it toggling the
> > language while switching to command mode? 
> 
> This can be partly solved by using the 'langmap' option, see help 'langmap'
> for details, where is also a specific example for the greek language.
> 
> However, until recently (patch 7.2.109) this option was broken for
> multibyte locales and judging from the headers of your email this also
> should apply to you.
> 
> So the recommended solution is to upgrade Vim (current patchlevel is
> 148).
> 
> Regards,
> Agathoklis
> 
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-25 Thread Paris

Thank you for your fast reply my friend. 
well I checked and:

pa...@protagoras:~$ vim --version
VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 
Included patches: 1-130

so I guess I might be ok. I will check langmap and I will let you
know...

Ευχαριστώ!


On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 20:58 +0200, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote:
> Γειά σου Πάρη,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 25, at 08:11 Paris wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am using vim to edit documents in greek and it is really frustrating
> > to have to alt_shift all the time to enter commands. Can vim ignore the
> > language when in command mode? If not, can I have it toggling the
> > language while switching to command mode? 
> 
> This can be partly solved by using the 'langmap' option, see help 'langmap'
> for details, where is also a specific example for the greek language.
> 
> However, until recently (patch 7.2.109) this option was broken for
> multibyte locales and judging from the headers of your email this also
> should apply to you.
> 
> So the recommended solution is to upgrade Vim (current patchlevel is
> 148).
> 
> Regards,
> Agathoklis
> 
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-25 Thread Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas

Γειά σου Πάρη,

On Wed, Mar 25, at 08:11 Paris wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am using vim to edit documents in greek and it is really frustrating
> to have to alt_shift all the time to enter commands. Can vim ignore the
> language when in command mode? If not, can I have it toggling the
> language while switching to command mode? 

This can be partly solved by using the 'langmap' option, see help 'langmap'
for details, where is also a specific example for the greek language.

However, until recently (patch 7.2.109) this option was broken for
multibyte locales and judging from the headers of your email this also
should apply to you.

So the recommended solution is to upgrade Vim (current patchlevel is
148).

Regards,
Agathoklis

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Toggle language when I switch to command mode.

2009-03-25 Thread Paris

Hello,

I am using vim to edit documents in greek and it is really frustrating
to have to alt_shift all the time to enter commands. Can vim ignore the
language when in command mode? If not, can I have it toggling the
language while switching to command mode? 

Thanks in advance for any answers.


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