Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I have a 16G 4S, and I find it runs just fine. I did get an iPhone 5 
from my employer recently, and I will say, that it is snappier than my 
4S. It's gotten me thinking about what I may be missing with the newer 
iPhones and wondering if I should get a new phone now or wait and see 
how IOS 9 behaves on my 4S.


On 07/25/2015 11:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Sounds like maybe a lack of space especially if you can' upgrade. Have you force quit all 
apps in the app switcher and rebooted? A Reset all network Settings in 
Settings, General, Reset may even help more, but make sure you close all apps first and 
remember you will have to reconnect to your WiFi after this and require your WiFi 
password. As for the 4S, even iOS 9 will be supported and I doubt your issues are related 
to compatibility problems. To me it sounds like iOS 9 in the end may even run better on a 
4S than 8.x is since Apple is doing a lot to streamline iOS and many apps will have 
versions which are optimized for specific phones although you won't have to select this 
manually, it will automatically happen. The 4S is almost 4 years old so I don't say 
upgrading would be a bad thing and in fact I think you would enjoy the speed, improved 
battery life and features of a new phone, but as long as your 4S has no major hardware 
issues it should still work fine.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi Patty, I would try restarting the phone, and possibly reseting it.  My
partner Aimee has a 16 gig 4S, and it works just fine.  You should have
no problem upgrading to IOS8.4.

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RE: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sounds like maybe a lack of space especially if you can' upgrade. Have you 
force quit all apps in the app switcher and rebooted? A Reset all network 
Settings in Settings, General, Reset may even help more, but make sure you 
close all apps first and remember you will have to reconnect to your WiFi after 
this and require your WiFi password. As for the 4S, even iOS 9 will be 
supported and I doubt your issues are related to compatibility problems. To me 
it sounds like iOS 9 in the end may even run better on a 4S than 8.x is since 
Apple is doing a lot to streamline iOS and many apps will have versions which 
are optimized for specific phones although you won't have to select this 
manually, it will automatically happen. The 4S is almost 4 years old so I don't 
say upgrading would be a bad thing and in fact I think you would enjoy the 
speed, improved battery life and features of a new phone, but as long as your 
4S has no major hardware issues it should still work fine.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi Patty, I would try restarting the phone, and possibly reseting it.  My
partner Aimee has a 16 gig 4S, and it works just fine.  You should have
no problem upgrading to IOS8.4.  

Have a good one:
John


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Re: an interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-24 Thread 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone

Patti,

You need to go into the app switcher to shut them down.

From the Home screen, tap the Home button twice, and then a three-finger 

swipe up on all the apps should close them.

I certainly have to close some of mine quite often to keep things clear 
enough when using a 4S.


Carol P

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Subject: an interesting delimma with my phone


Well I did turn the phone off then on again.
So far it isn't shutting down apps, but I've only tried one.
Maybe that was all that was needed, I hope.
Thanks for everyone's help.  I never turn my phone off, it's lawyas on
charge.
I just don't do it and I don't know why.
I guess I don't like it takes a while to come on again.
No patience, lol.
Patti

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Re: an interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-24 Thread Patti Johnson

Oh I know.
I do it all the tine!   Thanks!
Patti
On 7/24/2015 4:48 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone wrote:

Patti,

You need to go into the app switcher to shut them down.

From the Home screen, tap the Home button twice, and then a 
three-finger swipe up on all the apps should close them.


I certainly have to close some of mine quite often to keep things 
clear enough when using a 4S.


Carol P

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Subject: an interesting delimma with my phone


Well I did turn the phone off then on again.
So far it isn't shutting down apps, but I've only tried one.
Maybe that was all that was needed, I hope.
Thanks for everyone's help.  I never turn my phone off, it's lawyas on
charge.
I just don't do it and I don't know why.
I guess I don't like it takes a while to come on again.
No patience, lol.
Patti



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An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread Patti Johnson
I was wondering if anybody had this problem, I think I know what may be 
going on but not sure.
I have a 4s, and when I open an app, the majority of the time it will 
close on me.  No matter what app it is.
I am connected to wifi, and nothing else is going on with that end of 
things, such as tv, internet, etc; I have a braille display hooked up to 
the phone so bluetooth is activated.
I am just wondering if first of all my phone is beginning not to support 
anything because it is a 4s; (it will not allow me to upgrade to the 
8.4); also wonder if I need to remove some apps, would that solve the 
problem.

This does not happen with my ipad, by the way.
And the phone is charged.
So, do you all a gree with me that it may be time to get a new phone, I 
can't say I want to, I don't like the changing things over process, 
getting ringtones back on it, etc; but I am just thinking the phone has 
seen its better days.  And the funny thing is I don't use it that much, 
not like a lot of people do.


Patti

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Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi
A friend's 4s is even worse. It's breaking up on calls, jumping from earpiece 
to speaker and vice versa, she's upgrading to a 5s in a matter of weeks.


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 On 23 Jul 2015, at 15:28, Patti Johnson pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was wondering if anybody had this problem, I think I know what may be going 
 on but not sure.
 I have a 4s, and when I open an app, the majority of the time it will close 
 on me.  No matter what app it is.
 I am connected to wifi, and nothing else is going on with that end of things, 
 such as tv, internet, etc; I have a braille display hooked up to the phone so 
 bluetooth is activated.
 I am just wondering if first of all my phone is beginning not to support 
 anything because it is a 4s; (it will not allow me to upgrade to the 8.4); 
 also wonder if I need to remove some apps, would that solve the problem.
 This does not happen with my ipad, by the way.
 And the phone is charged.
 So, do you all a gree with me that it may be time to get a new phone, I can't 
 say I want to, I don't like the changing things over process, getting 
 ringtones back on it, etc; but I am just thinking the phone has seen its 
 better days.  And the funny thing is I don't use it that much, not like a lot 
 of people do.
 
 Patti
 
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Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread Patti Johnson
Oh dear.  Well at least mine isn't doing that but it looks like I will 
have to get a new phone in September.

Thanks,
Patti
On 7/23/2015 10:34 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi
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On 23 Jul 2015, at 15:28, Patti Johnson pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:

I was wondering if anybody had this problem, I think I know what may be going 
on but not sure.
I have a 4s, and when I open an app, the majority of the time it will close on 
me.  No matter what app it is.
I am connected to wifi, and nothing else is going on with that end of things, 
such as tv, internet, etc; I have a braille display hooked up to the phone so 
bluetooth is activated.
I am just wondering if first of all my phone is beginning not to support 
anything because it is a 4s; (it will not allow me to upgrade to the 8.4); also 
wonder if I need to remove some apps, would that solve the problem.
This does not happen with my ipad, by the way.
And the phone is charged.
So, do you all a gree with me that it may be time to get a new phone, I can't 
say I want to, I don't like the changing things over process, getting ringtones 
back on it, etc; but I am just thinking the phone has seen its better days.  
And the funny thing is I don't use it that much, not like a lot of people do.

Patti

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Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread kg7fa2
Hi Patty, I would try restarting the phone, and possibly reseting it.  My
partner Aimee has a 16 gig 4S, and it works just fine.  You should have
no problem upgrading to IOS8.4.  

Have a good one:
John


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RE: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread Wendy Alling
Patti, you might want to go in to the app switcher to make sure that all
apps are cleared out in case you have not done that in awhile.  Might be
part of the problem, just a thought.
Wendy

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Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone

My 4S upgraded fine, but I do have plenty of space on the 64G model.

Yes, it's a little slow now and occasionally crashes out where it didn't 
used to.


If you can get a new phone and want to, go ahead, I say.  However, note that 
the footprint of the iOS9 is supposed to be much smaller (take up less 
memory) and it may be that it will work better on the 4S.  I'm not rushing 
to get another tikll I see what happens with iOS9 and also the introduction 
of (hopefully) new gear in September/October.


Hope this might help.

Carol P

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Subject: An interesting delimma with my phone


I was wondering if anybody had this problem, I think I know what may be
going on but not sure.
I have a 4s, and when I open an app, the majority of the time it will
close on me.  No matter what app it is.
I am connected to wifi, and nothing else is going on with that end of
things, such as tv, internet, etc; I have a braille display hooked up to
the phone so bluetooth is activated.
I am just wondering if first of all my phone is beginning not to support
anything because it is a 4s; (it will not allow me to upgrade to the
8.4); also wonder if I need to remove some apps, would that solve the
problem.
This does not happen with my ipad, by the way.
And the phone is charged.
So, do you all a gree with me that it may be time to get a new phone, I
can't say I want to, I don't like the changing things over process,
getting ringtones back on it, etc; but I am just thinking the phone has
seen its better days.  And the funny thing is I don't use it that much,
not like a lot of people do.

Patti

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an interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread Patti Johnson

Well I did turn the phone off then on again.
So far it isn't shutting down apps, but I've only tried one.
Maybe that was all that was needed, I hope.
Thanks for everyone's help.  I never turn my phone off, it's lawyas on 
charge.

I just don't do it and I don't know why.
I guess I don't like it takes a while to come on again.
No patience, lol.
Patti

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Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread Patti Johnson
Oh it isn't, first thing I thought of, I always make sure the app 
switcher is clear, the majority of the time.

Patti
On 7/23/2015 12:21 PM, Wendy Alling wrote:

Patti, you might want to go in to the app switcher to make sure that all
apps are cleared out in case you have not done that in awhile.  Might be
part of the problem, just a thought.
Wendy



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Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

2015-07-23 Thread curmudgeon
hello patty
just thinking out loud, because i was having some of the same problems of apps 
closing or more correctly crashing 
i wonder if you have backed up the iphone to your computer .
i was deleting apps that seemed not to work any more but then i restored the 
iphone and 1. it put back the apps i deleted lol
and now they work 
good luck 
i hope you encripted backup so it puts all your setting in also 

On  Jul 23, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Patti Johnson pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:

I was wondering if anybody had this problem, I think I know what may be going 
on but not sure.
I have a 4s, and when I open an app, the majority of the time it will close on 
me.  No matter what app it is.
I am connected to wifi, and nothing else is going on with that end of things, 
such as tv, internet, etc; I have a braille display hooked up to the phone so 
bluetooth is activated.
I am just wondering if first of all my phone is beginning not to support 
anything because it is a 4s; (it will not allow me to upgrade to the 8.4); also 
wonder if I need to remove some apps, would that solve the problem.
This does not happen with my ipad, by the way.
And the phone is charged.
So, do you all a gree with me that it may be time to get a new phone, I can't 
say I want to, I don't like the changing things over process, getting ringtones 
back on it, etc; but I am just thinking the phone has seen its better days.  
And the funny thing is I don't use it that much, not like a lot of people do.

Patti

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