RE: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-06 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
If you don’t have the activation gestures on, I’m sure it will always think you 
are doing the magic tap no matter how far away your fingers are from each other.

Go to settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Braille, Braille Screen Input, and 
flick right to Use Activation gestures and make sure it is on.

 

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2024 6:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

Hello, 

 

I wasn’t clear about my use of 1 finger and 2 finger double taps. Trying a few 
more times, I still cannot get BSI to start using the taps. 

 

The 2-finger double tap is the magic tap that starts & stops a radio station. 
It also will answer & disconnect a phone call. 

 

I’ve tried a 1-finger double tap simultaneously on each hand, at the top and 
bottom center edge of the screen. Also on the corners on the same side and the 
diagonally opposite  corners. The radio comes on and then off with the next 
tap. 

 

The single finger double tap on opposite edges does not start BSI for me. 

I can only engage BSI with the roter and while in landscape, flip to hear: 

   Screen away

 

To calibrate the dots, when tapping the right 3 finger tips near the edge I 
usually hear the numbers 4 and 5 and sometimes 4, 5 and 6. 

Lifting the right 3 fingers , and repeating with the left 3 fingers , I never 
hear 1, 2 or 3. 

 

I never near:

  dot positions calibrated

 

Obviously my fingers are not correctly positioned. 

I wanted to learn to get BSI correct before upgrading to IOS 18 in case IOS 18 
has BSI broken. 

 

Where do I find the “Use activation gesture”.

 

Thanks for giving me the basic steps to make BSI work. 

My next step will be to upgrade to IOS 18 and hope for better results.

 

Peter T.

 

On 2024-11-02 5:22 PM, azas...@gmail.com <mailto:azas...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Hello: 

Please make sure that “Use activation gesture” is on under BSI. 

 

Good luck 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

 

Strange, I could not get that to work.

I tried, both fingers near the top center, then like you did, one top center 
and one bottom center.  All it does for me is it turns on dictation.

 

I am assuming the type of phone should not make a difference, but I am using an 
iPhone 14 Pro.

 

Chris Chaffin

 

Follow me on Mastodon:

@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space

 

 

On Nov 1, 2024, at 11:07 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Actually, you don’t have to be in the corners to do the double taps.  I just 
verified this by intentionally tapping in the top and bottom center of the 
screen while in landscape position.

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

 

To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap a left hand 
corner and a right hand corner while in landscape mode.  These double taps need 
to be done together at the same time.

It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom corners, or 
one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and 
my right hand finger at the bottom corner.

If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always putting your 
fingers far enough in the corners.

 

As far as callibrating the dots.

You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your left hand down 
and lift it.

You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.

If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You can 
callibrate the dots as much as you need.

I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that made my typing 
not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the 
screen and my typing got accurate again.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris Chaffin

 

Follow me on Mastodon:

@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space

 





On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar mailto:pte

Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-06 Thread Peter Tesar

Hello,

I wasn’t clear about my use of 1 finger and 2 finger double taps. Trying 
a few more times, I still cannot get BSI to start using the taps.


The 2-finger double tap is the magic tap that starts & stops a radio 
station. It also will answer & disconnect a phone call.


I’ve tried a 1-finger double tap simultaneously on each hand, at the top 
and bottom center edge of the screen. Also on the corners on the same 
side and the diagonally opposite corners. The radio comes on and then 
off with the next tap.


The single finger double tap on opposite edges does not start BSI for me.

I can only engage BSI with the roter and while in landscape, flip to hear:

Screen away

To calibrate the dots, when tapping the right 3 finger tips near the 
edge I usually hear the numbers 4 and 5 and sometimes 4, 5 and 6.


Lifting the right 3 fingers , and repeating with the left 3 fingers , I 
never hear 1, 2 or 3.


I never near:

dot positions calibrated

Obviously my fingers are not correctly positioned.

I wanted to learn to get BSI correct before upgrading to IOS 18 in case 
IOS 18 has BSI broken.


Where do I find the “Use activation gesture”.

Thanks for giving me the basic steps to make BSI work.

My next step will be to upgrade to IOS 18 and hope for better results.

Peter T.



On 2024-11-02 5:22 PM, azas...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello:

Please make sure that “Use activation gesture” is on under BSI.

Good luck

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Chris Chaffin

*Sent:* Friday, November 1, 2024 5:20 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

Strange, I could not get that to work.

I tried, both fingers near the top center, then like you did, one top 
center and one bottom center.  All it does for me is it turns on 
dictation.


I am assuming the type of phone should not make a difference, but I am 
using an iPhone 14 Pro.


Chris Chaffin

Follow me on Mastodon:

@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space



On Nov 1, 2024, at 11:07 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:



Actually, you don’t have to be in the corners to do the double
taps.  I just verified this by intentionally tapping in the top
and bottom center of the screen while in landscape position.

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it.”

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe.

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Chris Chaffin
*Sent:* Friday, November 1, 2024 8:03 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap
a left hand corner and a right hand corner while in landscape
mode.  These double taps need to be done together at the same time.

It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom
corners, or one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at
the top left corner, and my right hand finger at the bottom corner.

If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always
putting your fingers far enough in the corners.

As far as callibrating the dots.

You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your
left hand down and lift it.

You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.

If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You
can callibrate the dots as much as you need.

I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that
made my typing not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a
little toward the bottom of the screen and my typing got accurate
again.

Hope this helps.

Chris Chaffin

Follow me on Mastodon:

@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space




On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar mailto:pte...@ca.inter.net>> wrote:



Hello,

I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit
and miss. Can you clarify the correct gestures to start and
configure the fingers.

**Start

Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed
to unselected.

The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps.

How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done?

Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me?

Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite
corners of the screen?

Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other?

***Configuring the 6 fingers

When BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away.

The Iphone back corners are braced with my  thumbs and pin

RE: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-02 Thread azassaf
Hello: 

Please make sure that “Use activation gesture” is on under BSI. 

 

Good luck 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

 

Strange, I could not get that to work.

I tried, both fingers near the top center, then like you did, one top center 
and one bottom center.  All it does for me is it turns on dictation.

 

I am assuming the type of phone should not make a difference, but I am using an 
iPhone 14 Pro.

 

Chris Chaffin

 

Follow me on Mastodon:

@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space

 





On Nov 1, 2024, at 11:07 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Actually, you don’t have to be in the corners to do the double taps.  I just 
verified this by intentionally tapping in the top and bottom center of the 
screen while in landscape position.

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

 

To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap a left hand 
corner and a right hand corner while in landscape mode.  These double taps need 
to be done together at the same time.

It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom corners, or 
one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and 
my right hand finger at the bottom corner.

If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always putting your 
fingers far enough in the corners.

 

As far as callibrating the dots.

You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your left hand down 
and lift it.

You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.

If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You can 
callibrate the dots as much as you need.

I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that made my typing 
not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the 
screen and my typing got accurate again.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris Chaffin

 

Follow me on Mastodon:

@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space

 






On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar mailto:pte...@ca.inter.net> > wrote:

 

Hello, 

 

I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. Can you 
clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the fingers. 

 

**Start 

 

Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to unselected. 

 

The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps. 

How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done? 

Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me? 

Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners of the 
screen?

Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other? 

 

***Configuring the 6 fingers

When BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away. 

The Iphone back corners are braced with my  thumbs and pinkies and part of the 
palms.

The right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips will tap the 
right and left edges. 

Should the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart?

 

I start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6. 

Should they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?

Should they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2 and 3?

With screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down. 

 

I’m trying different methods and getting mixed results.

Writing the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.

I don’t hear any letters using dot 3  like k, l, m, etc.

 

What is the correct gesture for starting and configuring?

 

Peter T. 

 

On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello Gezim, 

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA 

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 






On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha  <mailto:gezim.re...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen 
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-02 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I have been thinking about your problems outlined in your message, and here is what I have concluded, for what it might be worth. If your radio station starts again, I think you are doing the double tap with your fingers too close together, and oriented wrong. When I do this double tap to start braille screen input, I am holding my phone in away mode, against, in my case, my gut, with the ear piece area to the left and, in my case, the home button to the right. Of course, you have a modern phone, so put the end where the home button   would be to the right.  When I do this double tap, I am doing it along the edge that  would be toward the floor, and I do the double tap with each finger almost in the corners. If I do it with my fingers along this edhe, but too close together, it often starts dictation mode. It seems that my fingers have to be far enough apart along this edge for it to understand what I am wanting it to do, that its not a regular double tap.  To get out of braille screen input, I have had better luck sliding my fingers along that edge toward the corners, but not starting  too near each other when beginning. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Nov 1, 2024, at 9:09 PM, Peter Tesar  wrote:
  

  
  


  Hello,

   
  I
  too cannot get BSI to start with the simultaneous double taps
  on the corners or
  center of a landscape.  I’m
  using Iphone
  14.
   
  The
  problem might be that when I do a double tap a radio starts.
  Ever since I asked
  SIRI to play a radio station, it can be started and stopped
  with the double
  tap. 
  On
  the lock screen there are buttons for the play/pause and track
  buttons. Maybe
  this is for playing music (something I haven't tried yet).
   
  How
  do I stop this playing of a radio with the double tap?
  Then
  maybe I can get BSI to start. 
   
  As
  far as calibrating I don’t know what is typing or command
  mode.
  After
  placing the left then right fingers on the screen, I have
  never heard: 
  If
  done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  

  

   
  Peter
T.


On 2024-11-01 11:03 AM, Chris Chaffin
  wrote:


  


To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically
  need to double tap a left hand corner and a right hand corner
  while in landscape mode.  These double taps need to be done
  together at the same time.
It does not matter whether you use both top
  corners, both bottom corners, or one of each.  I personally
  put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and my right
  hand finger at the bottom corner.
If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you
  are not always putting your fingers far enough in the corners.


As far as callibrating the dots.
You first put your right hand down, lift it and
  quickly put your left hand down and lift it.
You can do this while in typing mode or command
  mode.
If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions
  callibrated.  You can callibrate the dots as much as you need.
I found that I was putting my hands to far to the
  top and that made my typing not as accurate.  So I just
  lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the screen and
  my typing got accurate again.


Hope this helps.


Chris Chaffin


Follow me on Mastodon:
@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space


  
  
On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar
   wrote:
  

  
  

   
  Hello, 
   
  I have the basics to
  get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. Can you
  clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the
  fingers. 
   
  **Start 
   
  Using the roter is hit
  and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to unselected. 
   
  The other way to
  engage BSI is with finger taps. 
  How exactly should the
  1 finger double tap be done? 
  Should the Iphone be
  in portrait and facing me? 
  Should the taps be in
  the center or the diagonally opposite corners of the
  screen?
  Should this tap be
  simultaneous or one after the other? 
   
  ***Configuring the 6
  fingers
  When BSI starts, the
  Iphone is in landscape and screen away. 
  The I

Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-01 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
I think you are maybe doing the double tap wrong. I just told Siri to play a radio station.I did the double ta£ to start BSI and it worked fine. I then did the two finger double tap to stop and start the radio and it worked fine. The key is that to start Braille Screen Input you have one finger at the top, and one finger at the bottom of the screen, and do the double tap at the same time. If you do the two finger double tap anywhere else on the screen, it is the magic ta£ that starts or stops media playing.Try unlocking the phone, and removing everything from the app switcher, open an edit field in a new message, or notes, and try the braille screen input again.Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John WesleyMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) cOn Nov 1, 2024, at 6:09 PM, Peter Tesar  wrote:
  

  
  


  Hello,

   
  I
  too cannot get BSI to start with the simultaneous double taps
  on the corners or
  center of a landscape.  I’m
  using Iphone
  14.
   
  The
  problem might be that when I do a double tap a radio starts.
  Ever since I asked
  SIRI to play a radio station, it can be started and stopped
  with the double
  tap. 
  On
  the lock screen there are buttons for the play/pause and track
  buttons. Maybe
  this is for playing music (something I haven't tried yet).
   
  How
  do I stop this playing of a radio with the double tap?
  Then
  maybe I can get BSI to start. 
   
  As
  far as calibrating I don’t know what is typing or command
  mode.
  After
  placing the left then right fingers on the screen, I have
  never heard: 
  If
  done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  

  

   
  Peter
T.


On 2024-11-01 11:03 AM, Chris Chaffin
  wrote:


  


To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically
  need to double tap a left hand corner and a right hand corner
  while in landscape mode.  These double taps need to be done
  together at the same time.
It does not matter whether you use both top
  corners, both bottom corners, or one of each.  I personally
  put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and my right
  hand finger at the bottom corner.
If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you
  are not always putting your fingers far enough in the corners.


As far as callibrating the dots.
You first put your right hand down, lift it and
  quickly put your left hand down and lift it.
You can do this while in typing mode or command
  mode.
If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions
  callibrated.  You can callibrate the dots as much as you need.
I found that I was putting my hands to far to the
  top and that made my typing not as accurate.  So I just
  lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the screen and
  my typing got accurate again.


Hope this helps.


Chris Chaffin


Follow me on Mastodon:
@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space


  
  
On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar
   wrote:
  

  
  

   
  Hello, 
   
  I have the basics to
  get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. Can you
  clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the
  fingers. 
   
  **Start 
   
  Using the roter is hit
  and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to unselected. 
   
  The other way to
  engage BSI is with finger taps. 
  How exactly should the
  1 finger double tap be done? 
  Should the Iphone be
  in portrait and facing me? 
  Should the taps be in
  the center or the diagonally opposite corners of the
  screen?
  Should this tap be
  simultaneous or one after the other? 
   
  ***Configuring the 6
  fingers
  When BSI starts, the
  Iphone is in landscape and screen away. 
  The Iphone back
  corners are braced with my  thumbs and
  pinkies and part of the palms.
  The right and left 3
  center fingers are curled so that the tips will tap the
  right and left edges. 
  Should the 3 fingers
  touch each other or be apart?
   
  I start with the right
  

Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-01 Thread Peter Tesar

Hello,

I too cannot get BSI to start with the simultaneous double taps on the 
corners or center of a landscape. I’m using Iphone 14.


The problem might be that when I do a double tap a radio starts. Ever 
since I asked SIRI to play a radio station, it can be started and 
stopped with the double tap.


On the lock screen there are buttons for the play/pause and track 
buttons. Maybe this is for playing music (something I haven't tried yet).


How do I stop this playing of a radio with the double tap?

Then maybe I can get BSI to start.

As far as calibrating I don’t know what is typing or command mode.

After placing the left then right fingers on the screen, I have never 
heard:


If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.


Peter T.


On 2024-11-01 11:03 AM, Chris Chaffin wrote:


To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap a 
left hand corner and a right hand corner while in landscape mode. 
 These double taps need to be done together at the same time.
It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom 
corners, or one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at the 
top left corner, and my right hand finger at the bottom corner.
If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always 
putting your fingers far enough in the corners.


As far as callibrating the dots.
You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your left 
hand down and lift it.

You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.
If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You can 
callibrate the dots as much as you need.
I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that made my 
typing not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a little toward 
the bottom of the screen and my typing got accurate again.


Hope this helps.

Chris Chaffin

Follow me on Mastodon:
@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space



On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar  wrote:



Hello,

I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and 
miss. Can you clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the 
fingers.


**Start

Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to 
unselected.


The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps.

How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done?

Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me?

Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners 
of the screen?


Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other?

***Configuring the 6 fingers

When BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away.

The Iphone back corners are braced with my thumbs and pinkies and 
part of the palms.


The right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips will 
tap the right and left edges.


Should the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart?

I start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6.

Should they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?

Should they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2 
and 3?


With screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down.

I’m trying different methods and getting mixed results.

Writing the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.

I don’t hear any letters using dot 3 like k, l, m, etc.

What is the correct gesture for starting and configuring?

Peter T.



On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello Gezim,
I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always 
for me.
I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at 
the bottom of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.



Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John 
Wesley



My web site: https://www.turner42.com


(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c



On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:



Hi all,

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that 
Braille screen input is no longer functioning.


I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Gezim

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RE: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-01 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
I’m using a 16 pro and I have no idea why it doesn’t work for you.

I would think it would, but what do I know.

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

 

Strange, I could not get that to work.

I tried, both fingers near the top center, then like you did, one top center 
and one bottom center.  All it does for me is it turns on dictation.

 

I am assuming the type of phone should not make a difference, but I am using an 
iPhone 14 Pro.

 

Chris Chaffin

 

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On Nov 1, 2024, at 11:07 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Actually, you don’t have to be in the corners to do the double taps.  I just 
verified this by intentionally tapping in the top and bottom center of the 
screen while in landscape position.

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

 

To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap a left hand 
corner and a right hand corner while in landscape mode.  These double taps need 
to be done together at the same time.

It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom corners, or 
one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and 
my right hand finger at the bottom corner.

If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always putting your 
fingers far enough in the corners.

 

As far as callibrating the dots.

You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your left hand down 
and lift it.

You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.

If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You can 
callibrate the dots as much as you need.

I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that made my typing 
not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the 
screen and my typing got accurate again.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris Chaffin

 

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On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar mailto:pte...@ca.inter.net> > wrote:

 

Hello, 

 

I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. Can you 
clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the fingers. 

 

**Start 

 

Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to unselected. 

 

The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps. 

How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done? 

Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me? 

Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners of the 
screen?

Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other? 

 

***Configuring the 6 fingers

When BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away. 

The Iphone back corners are braced with my  thumbs and pinkies and part of the 
palms.

The right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips will tap the 
right and left edges. 

Should the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart?

 

I start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6. 

Should they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?

Should they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2 and 3?

With screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down. 

 

I’m trying different methods and getting mixed results.

Writing the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.

I don’t hear any letters using dot 3  like k, l, m, etc.

 

What is the correct gesture for starting and configuring?

 

Peter T. 

 

On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello Gezim, 

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA 

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 






On Oct 29, 2024,

Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-01 Thread Chris Chaffin
Strange, I could not get that to work.I tried, both fingers near the top center, then like you did, one top center and one bottom center.  All it does for me is it turns on dictation.I am assuming the type of phone should not make a difference, but I am using an iPhone 14 Pro.Chris ChaffinFollow me on Mastodon:@chrischaffin@dragonscave.spaceOn Nov 1, 2024, at 11:07 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Actually, you don’t have to be in the corners to do the double taps.  I just verified this by intentionally tapping in the top and bottom center of the screen while in landscape position.   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris ChaffinSent: Friday, November 1, 2024 8:03 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input  To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap a left hand corner and a right hand corner while in landscape mode.  These double taps need to be done together at the same time.It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom corners, or one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and my right hand finger at the bottom corner.If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always putting your fingers far enough in the corners. As far as callibrating the dots.You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your left hand down and lift it.You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You can callibrate the dots as much as you need.I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that made my typing not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the screen and my typing got accurate again. Hope this helps. Chris Chaffin Follow me on Mastodon:@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar <pte...@ca.inter.net> wrote: Hello,  I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. Can you clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the fingers.  **Start  Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to unselected.  The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps. How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done? Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me? Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners of the screen?Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other?  ***Configuring the 6 fingersWhen BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away. The Iphone back corners are braced with my  thumbs and pinkies and part of the palms.The right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips will tap the right and left edges. Should the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart? I start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6. Should they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?Should they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2 and 3?With screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down.  I’m trying different methods and getting mixed results.Writing the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.I don’t hear any letters using dot 3  like k, l, m, etc. What is the correct gesture for starting and configuring? Peter T.  On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:Hello Gezim, I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen.Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.   Richard, USA "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote: Hi all, Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen input is no longer functioning. I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best regards,Gezim-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+un

RE: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-01 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Actually, you don’t have to be in the corners to do the double taps.  I just 
verified this by intentionally tapping in the top and bottom center of the 
screen while in landscape position.

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

 

To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap a left hand 
corner and a right hand corner while in landscape mode.  These double taps need 
to be done together at the same time.

It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom corners, or 
one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and 
my right hand finger at the bottom corner.

If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always putting your 
fingers far enough in the corners.

 

As far as callibrating the dots.

You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your left hand down 
and lift it.

You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.

If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You can 
callibrate the dots as much as you need.

I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that made my typing 
not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the 
screen and my typing got accurate again.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris Chaffin

 

Follow me on Mastodon:

@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space

 





On Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar mailto:pte...@ca.inter.net> > wrote:

 

Hello, 

 

I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. Can you 
clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the fingers. 

 

**Start 

 

Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to unselected. 

 

The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps. 

How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done? 

Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me? 

Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners of the 
screen?

Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other? 

 

***Configuring the 6 fingers

When BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away. 

The Iphone back corners are braced with my  thumbs and pinkies and part of the 
palms.

The right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips will tap the 
right and left edges. 

Should the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart?

 

I start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6. 

Should they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?

Should they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2 and 3?

With screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down. 

 

I’m trying different methods and getting mixed results.

Writing the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.

I don’t hear any letters using dot 3  like k, l, m, etc.

 

What is the correct gesture for starting and configuring?

 

Peter T. 

 

On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello Gezim, 

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA 

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 





On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha  <mailto:gezim.re...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen 
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

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Re: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-11-01 Thread Chris Chaffin
To turn on Braille Screen Input, you basically need to double tap a left hand corner and a right hand corner while in landscape mode.  These double taps need to be done together at the same time.It does not matter whether you use both top corners, both bottom corners, or one of each.  I personally put my left hand finger at the top left corner, and my right hand finger at the bottom corner.If it does not work sometimes for you, maybe you are not always putting your fingers far enough in the corners.As far as callibrating the dots.You first put your right hand down, lift it and quickly put your left hand down and lift it.You can do this while in typing mode or command mode.If done correctly, you will hear, dot positions callibrated.  You can callibrate the dots as much as you need.I found that I was putting my hands to far to the top and that made my typing not as accurate.  So I just lowered my hands a little toward the bottom of the screen and my typing got accurate again.Hope this helps.Chris ChaffinFollow me on Mastodon:@chrischaffin@dragonscave.spaceOn Oct 31, 2024, at 4:00 PM, Peter Tesar  wrote:
  

  
  


  Hello,

   
  I
  have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit
  and miss. Can you
  clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the
  fingers. 
   
  **Start

   
  Using
  the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to
  unselected. 
   
  The
  other way to engage BSI is with finger taps. 
  How
  exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done? 
  Should
  the Iphone be in portrait and facing me? 
  Should
  the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners
  of the screen?
  Should
  this tap be simultaneous or one after the other? 
   
  ***Configuring
  the 6 fingers
  When
  BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away. 
  The
  Iphone back corners are braced with my  thumbs and pinkies and part
  of the palms.
  The
  right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips
  will tap the right
  and left edges. 
  Should
  the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart?
   
  I
  start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6. 
  Should
  they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?
  Should
  they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2
  and 3?
  With
  screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down.

   
  I’m
  trying different methods and getting mixed results.
  Writing
  the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.
  I
  don’t hear any letters using dot 3  like
  k, l, m, etc.
   
  What
  is the correct gesture for starting and configuring?
   
  Peter
  T. 



On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner'
  via VIPhone wrote:

Hello
  Gezim,
  I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like
always for me.
  I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and
one at the bottom of the screen.
  Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.
  

  
  
  
  
  Richard, USA
  
"While striving for perfection,
let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

  
My web site:
https://www.turner42.com
  
  
  
  (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c
  
  


  On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim
Rexha  wrote:

  


  


  Hi all,
   
  Yesterday I
  updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that
      Braille screen input is no longer functioning.
   
  I am using iPhone
  12 Pro Max.
   
  Any suggestions
  would be greatly appreciated.
   
  Best regards,
  Gezim

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RE: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-10-31 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
To clarify some terms first:

The bottom refers to the screen just above the port for charging the phone.

The top being the opposite end.

So when landscaped in screen away mode, it would be the left or right edge.  If 
the charging port is toward your right, then that would be the same as the 
bottom when in portrait, etc.

 

I turn the phone to landscape, screen away mode, and simultaneously do a one 
finger double tap usually with my index fingers, so I am tapping at the left 
and right when in landscape and have never had that fail to launch Braille 
Screen Input.

To stop Braille Screen Input, I use my index fingers and swipe one from what is 
now the top of the phone in landscape, down while at the same time sliding the 
other from the bottom toward the top, which kind of minicks a rotor jesture, 
but it usually says something like word mode, stopping braille screen input.

 

I am not sure I have ever calibrated the fingers.   It just works.

What you hear when you type is determined by the setting under Accessibility, 
typing and Braille Screen input where you can have nothing, characters, or 
words, or both characters and words spoken.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Tesar
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2024 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

 

Hello, 

 

I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. Can you 
clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the fingers. 

 

**Start 

 

Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to unselected. 

 

The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps. 

How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done? 

Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me? 

Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners of the 
screen?

Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other? 

 

***Configuring the 6 fingers

When BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away. 

The Iphone back corners are braced with my  thumbs and pinkies and part of the 
palms.

The right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips will tap the 
right and left edges. 

Should the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart?

 

I start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6. 

Should they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?

Should they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2 and 3?

With screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down. 

 

I’m trying different methods and getting mixed results.

Writing the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.

I don’t hear any letters using dot 3  like k, l, m, etc.

 

What is the correct gesture for starting and configuring?

 

Peter T. 

 

On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello Gezim, 

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA 

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 





On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha  <mailto:gezim.re...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen 
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

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Still struggling, Re: Braille screen input

2024-10-31 Thread Peter Tesar

Hello,

I have the basics to get BSI started and stopped but it’s hit and miss. 
Can you clarify the correct gestures to start and configure the fingers.


**Start

Using the roter is hit and miss and sometimes it’s is changed to 
unselected.


The other way to engage BSI is with finger taps.

How exactly should the 1 finger double tap be done?

Should the Iphone be in portrait and facing me?

Should the taps be in the center or the diagonally opposite corners of 
the screen?


Should this tap be simultaneous or one after the other?

***Configuring the 6 fingers

When BSI starts, the Iphone is in landscape and screen away.

The Iphone back corners are braced with my thumbs and pinkies and part 
of the palms.


The right and left 3 center fingers are curled so that the tips will tap 
the right and left edges.


Should the 3 fingers touch each other or be apart?

I start with the right fingers for dots 4, 5 and 6.

Should they be tapped simultaneously or one after the other?

Should they be held down or lifted before repeating fingers for 1, 2 and 3?

With screen away I can lock the layout with a 3 finger swipe down.

I’m trying different methods and getting mixed results.

Writing the alphabet from “a” gets me to “g” most of the time.

I don’t hear any letters using dot 3 like k, l, m, etc.

What is the correct gesture for starting and configuring?

Peter T.



On 2024-10-29 9:19 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello Gezim,
I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.
I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at 
the bottom of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.



Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John 
Wesley



My web site: https://www.turner42.com


(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c



On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:



Hi all,

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille 
screen input is no longer functioning.


I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Gezim

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It's the same place you went to configure these initially, under accessibility, voiceover, then Braille then under Braille screen input.MatthewOn Oct 29, 2024, at 8:22 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:Hello Matthew, Can you please give me the exact instructions? Where can I find the gestures under Settings? GezimFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew BullisSent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 15:37To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update I found the same behavior, so I checked settings, and sure enough, it had switched off the gestures. I'm not sure why, but when I turned them back on, it's fine now.Matthew On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:27 AM, Gezim Rexha <gezim.re...@gmail.com> wrote:Hello Richard, It worked for me perfectly in the previous iOS, but unfortunately not any more. I haven’t tried it but I’m sure it works using the rotor, but I really liked activating it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen. Thank you for your response,Gezim From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 14:20To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update Hello Gezim,I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen.Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.   Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha <gezim.re...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all, Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen input is no longer functioning. I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best regards,Gezim-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008901db2a03%2405d1b6e0%24117524a0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E78A86F7-1C35-466C-B279-CE8C347D8AB6%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00a201db2a06%245917e470%240b47ad50%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhon

RE: Braille screen input not working after latest update

2024-10-29 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Well done Matthew.

It is always a good thing when something changes without your having done 
anything but updating to check the settings.

I didn’t have your issue, so of course, I didn’t think to suggest checking the 
settings first.  Too long retired I guess; though 4 years doesn’t seem that 
long, 😊.

 

 

 

Richard,

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– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2024 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

I found the same behavior, so I checked settings, and sure enough, it had 
switched off the gestures. I'm not sure why, but when I turned them back on, 
it's fine now.

Matthew

 


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Hello Richard,

 

It worked for me perfectly in the previous iOS, but unfortunately not any more. 
I haven’t tried it but I’m sure it works using the rotor, but I really liked 
activating it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the 
bottom of the screen.

 

Thank you for your response,

Gezim

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

Hello Gezim,

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 






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Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen 
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

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2024-10-29 Thread Gezim Rexha
Many thanks Mathew, it worked like magic!

 

Have a lovely day,

Gezim

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
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Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 16:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

It's the same place you went to configure these initially, under accessibility, 
voiceover, then Braille then under Braille screen input.

Matthew

 


On Oct 29, 2024, at 8:22 AM, Gezim Rexha mailto:gezim.re...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello Matthew,

 

Can you please give me the exact instructions? Where can I find the gestures 
under Settings?

 

Gezim

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Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

I found the same behavior, so I checked settings, and sure enough, it had 
switched off the gestures. I'm not sure why, but when I turned them back on, 
it's fine now.

Matthew

 


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Hello Richard,

 

It worked for me perfectly in the previous iOS, but unfortunately not any more. 
I haven’t tried it but I’m sure it works using the rotor, but I really liked 
activating it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the 
bottom of the screen.

 

Thank you for your response,

Gezim

 

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Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 14:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

Hello Gezim,

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 







On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha mailto:gezim.re...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen 
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

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Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

2024-10-29 Thread Arnold Schmidt
The gestures being turned off happened to me, too. When I found out, I was in a situation where I needed to type in something, as it were, right now, and it wouldn't work. I turned them back on and luckily, it wasnt too late to get it typed in. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Oct 29, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:I found the same behavior, so I checked settings, and sure enough, it had switched off the gestures. I'm not sure why, but when I turned them back on, it's fine now.MatthewOn Oct 29, 2024, at 6:27 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:Hello Richard, It worked for me perfectly in the previous iOS, but unfortunately not any more. I haven’t tried it but I’m sure it works using the rotor, but I really liked activating it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen. Thank you for your response,Gezim From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 14:20To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update Hello Gezim,I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen.Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.   Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha <gezim.re...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all, Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen input is no longer functioning. I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best regards,Gezim-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008901db2a03%2405d1b6e0%24117524a0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E78A86F7-1C35-466C-B279-CE8C347D8AB6%40comcast.net.



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RE: Braille screen input not working after latest update

2024-10-29 Thread Gezim Rexha
Hello Matthew,

 

Can you please give me the exact instructions? Where can I find the gestures 
under Settings?

 

Gezim

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 15:37
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

I found the same behavior, so I checked settings, and sure enough, it had 
switched off the gestures. I'm not sure why, but when I turned them back on, 
it's fine now.

Matthew

 


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Hello Richard,

 

It worked for me perfectly in the previous iOS, but unfortunately not any more. 
I haven’t tried it but I’m sure it works using the rotor, but I really liked 
activating it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the 
bottom of the screen.

 

Thank you for your response,

Gezim

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 14:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

Hello Gezim,

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 






On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha mailto:gezim.re...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen 
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

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Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

2024-10-29 Thread Matthew Bullis
I found the same behavior, so I checked settings, and sure enough, it had switched off the gestures. I'm not sure why, but when I turned them back on, it's fine now.MatthewOn Oct 29, 2024, at 6:27 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:Hello Richard, It worked for me perfectly in the previous iOS, but unfortunately not any more. I haven’t tried it but I’m sure it works using the rotor, but I really liked activating it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen. Thank you for your response,Gezim From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 14:20To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update Hello Gezim,I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen.Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.   Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha <gezim.re...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all, Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen input is no longer functioning. I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best regards,Gezim-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008901db2a03%2405d1b6e0%24117524a0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E78A86F7-1C35-466C-B279-CE8C347D8AB6%40comcast.net.



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RE: Braille screen input not working after latest update

2024-10-29 Thread Gezim Rexha
Hello Richard,

 

It worked for me perfectly in the previous iOS, but unfortunately not any more. 
I haven’t tried it but I’m sure it works using the rotor, but I really liked 
activating it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the 
bottom of the screen.

 

Thank you for your response,

Gezim

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: e martë, 29 tetor 2024 14:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

 

Hello Gezim,

I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.

I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom 
of the screen.

Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 





On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha mailto:gezim.re...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen 
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

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Re: Braille screen input not working after latest update

2024-10-29 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Hello Gezim,I am replying using Braille Screen Input. It  working like always for me.I engage it by double tapping with one finger at the top and one at the bottom of the screen.Also on 18.1 but on the 16 pro, but that shouldn't matter.Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John WesleyMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) cOn Oct 29, 2024, at 6:04 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:Hi all, Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen input is no longer functioning. I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best regards,Gezim



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Braille screen input not working after latest update

2024-10-29 Thread Gezim Rexha
Hi all,

 

Yesterday I updated my iPhone to iOS 18.1, and I noticed that Braille screen
input is no longer functioning.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

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RE: Braille Screen Input

2024-10-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I can use BSI in table top mode on my iPhone 11 just fine. I just find it 
easier for my fingers to get off track when they’re just hovering over the 
iPhone, which I would think would be the same case with an iPad. Plus, my hands 
get more tired after a while using table top mode than they do using away mode.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:18 AM
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I think tabletop mode is meant more for iPads than iPhones. The iPhone simply 
doesn't have a large enough screen to make tabletop mode very practical, at 
least in my opinion.
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Oct 23, 2024, at 9:39 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
“Away” mode is ny preferred way as well. Good luck! Once you get the hang of 
it, it definitely increases your efficiency&speed on your device!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 23 oct 2024, a la(s) 6:58 p.m., Christopher Chaltain  
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I prefer away mode. I think it’s easier to orient my fingers when I’m holding 
the iPhone in my hands. It’s also nice because it’ll work even if you don’t 
have a surface to put your iPhone on.

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To: iPhone List 
Subject: Braille Screen Input

I am determined to get really good at this so I can use it on a regular basis. 
Do you prefer Away or Table Top and why? Also, I thought there was a new 
command to start BSI, which it is accessed by a two-finger double tap, using 
one from each hand on the top and bottom of the screen. It is not working on my 
phone.
I have more questions, but will save them for now.
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Re: Braille Screen Input

2024-10-24 Thread ruby alphonse
I use away mode even on my iPad, i quite like it than table mode, BSI is
one of the best feature I like in these apple devices.
Ruby.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 12:48 PM Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

> I think tabletop mode is meant more for iPads than iPhones. The iPhone
> simply doesn't have a large enough screen to make tabletop mode very
> practical, at least in my opinion.
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>
> On Oct 23, 2024, at 9:39 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>
> “Away” mode is ny preferred way as well. Good luck! Once you get the hang
> of it, it definitely increases your efficiency&speed on your device!
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
> El 23 oct 2024, a la(s) 6:58 p.m., Christopher Chaltain <
> chalt...@outlook.com> escribió:
>
> 
>
> I prefer away mode. I think it’s easier to orient my fingers when I’m
> holding the iPhone in my hands. It’s also nice because it’ll work even if
> you don’t have a surface to put your iPhone on.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Sandra Finley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2024 6:55 PM
> *To:* iPhone List 
> *Subject:* Braille Screen Input
>
>
>
> I am determined to get really good at this so I can use it on a regular
> basis. Do you prefer Away or Table Top and why? Also, I thought there was a
> new command to start BSI, which it is accessed by a two-finger double tap,
> using one from each hand on the top and bottom of the screen. It is not
> working on my phone.
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Re: Braille Screen Input

2024-10-24 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I think tabletop mode is meant more for iPads than iPhones. The iPhone simply doesn't have a large enough screen to make tabletop mode very practical, at least in my opinion.Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Oct 23, 2024, at 9:39 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:“Away” mode is ny preferred way as well. Good luck! Once you get the hang of it, it definitely increases your efficiency&speed on your device!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 23 oct 2024, a la(s) 6:58 p.m., Christopher Chaltain  escribió:







I prefer away mode. I think it’s easier to orient my fingers when I’m holding the iPhone in my hands. It’s also nice because it’ll work even if you don’t have a surface to put your iPhone
 on.

 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 6:55 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Braille Screen Input


 
I am determined to get really good at this so I can use it on a regular basis. Do you prefer Away or Table Top and why? Also, I thought there was a new command to start BSI, which it is accessed by a two-finger double tap, using one from
 each hand on the top and bottom of the screen. It is not working on my phone. 

I have more questions, but will save them for now. 
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Re: Braille Screen Input

2024-10-23 Thread Gerardo Corripio
“Away” mode is ny preferred way as well. Good luck! Once you get the hang of it, it definitely increases your efficiency&speed on your device!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 23 oct 2024, a la(s) 6:58 p.m., Christopher Chaltain  escribió:







I prefer away mode. I think it’s easier to orient my fingers when I’m holding the iPhone in my hands. It’s also nice because it’ll work even if you don’t have a surface to put your iPhone
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Re: Braille Screen Input

2024-10-23 Thread Ryan Mann
Did you enable the gesture in settings? If not, open settings. Go to 
accessibility, Voiceover, braille, braille screen input. There is an option to 
enable gestures to start braille screen input.

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RE: Braille Screen Input

2024-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I prefer away mode. I think it's easier to orient my fingers when I'm holding 
the iPhone in my hands. It's also nice because it'll work even if you don't 
have a surface to put your iPhone on.

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Braille Screen Input

2024-10-23 Thread Sandra Finley
I am determined to get really good at this so I can use it on a regular
basis. Do you prefer Away or Table Top and why? Also, I thought there was a
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using one from each hand on the top and bottom of the screen. It is not
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RE: question on braille screen input

2024-10-12 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Well, Do you have your orientation locked?
 Otherwise, Apple Accessibility might have an answer.
877-204-3930 or accessibil...@apple.com



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Hi Richard,

sure enough, there are so many settings that can scupper a working phone.
I am lucky that in my case, putting it back on the roter sorted it, I would 
like to know why just the same.

Have a fine weekend, and thanks.

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Re: question on braille screen input

2024-10-12 Thread Joe Paton
Hi Richard,

sure enough, there are so many settings that can scupper a working phone.
I am lucky that in my case, putting it back on the roter sorted it, I would 
like to know why just the same.

Have a fine weekend, and thanks.

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RE: question on braille screen input

2024-10-12 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Two things come to mind.

1.  Have you locked the orientation of your screen?

To do this, bring up the control Center by touching the status bar and flicking 
up with three fingers.

On the left side of the screen, right below Wi-Fi, is Lock Orientation.  If it 
is off, double tap, and you will always be in portrait mode.

 

2.  Are you accidently invoking Braille Screen Input by double tapping at 
both the top and bottom edges of the screen at the same time?

 

You can turn off the activation gestures for Braille Screen Input under 
VoiceOver Settings, Braille.

 

HTH,

 

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Owen
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2024 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question on braille screen input

 

I wish I could say that I didn’t have screen away mode here. It pops up all the 
time!. I have had it off the rotor and it still pops up. I have the devil of a 
time getting it off the phone. I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max With 18.0.1 and I 
certainly wish it would leave. I never used screen of input mode, so it can be 
rather annoying to be reading something and suddenly switched to a mode to 
braille. :-(


Joney





On Oct 12, 2024, at 9:45 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hi Joe,

I do not even have Braille Screen Input on my rotor. I took it off when they 
gave us the gesture to toggle it on at will.

Yet, mine speaks the change. Very curious. 

 

 

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(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 





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Hi Richard,

The issue is now fixed.  It appears, that if Braille Screen input is not 
selected in the roter, screen away mode, and tabletop mode are not spoken.

Certainly on this phone, it is the case.

Thanks for taking the trouble to write.

Joe


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Re: question on braille screen input

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I wish I could say that I didn’t have screen away mode here. It pops up all the time!. I have had it off the rotor and it still pops up. I have the devil of a time getting it off the phone. I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max With 18.0.1 and I certainly wish it would leave. I never used screen of input mode, so it can be rather annoying to be reading something and suddenly switched to a mode to braille. :-(JoneyOn Oct 12, 2024, at 9:45 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Hi Joe,I do not even have Braille Screen Input on my rotor. I took it off when they gave us the gesture to toggle it on at will.Yet, mine speaks the change. Very curious. Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John WesleyMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) cOn Oct 12, 2024, at 3:17 AM, Joe Paton  wrote:Hi Richard,The issue is now fixed.  It appears, that if Braille Screen input is not selected in the roter, screen away mode, and tabletop mode are not spoken.Certainly on this phone, it is the case.Thanks for taking the trouble to write.Joe-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/20241012111632.EFDB.77F7DF48%40gmail.com.



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Re: question on braille screen input

2024-10-12 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Hi Joe,
I do not even have Braille Screen Input on my rotor. I took it off when they 
gave us the gesture to toggle it on at will.
Yet, mine speaks the change. Very curious. 


Richard, USA
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(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c


> On Oct 12, 2024, at 3:17 AM, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> The issue is now fixed.  It appears, that if Braille Screen input is not 
> selected in the roter, screen away mode, and tabletop mode are not spoken.
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> Certainly on this phone, it is the case.
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> Thanks for taking the trouble to write.
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> Joe
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Re: question on braille screen input

2024-10-12 Thread Joe Paton
Hi Richard,

The issue is now fixed.  It appears, that if Braille Screen input is not 
selected in the roter, screen away mode, and tabletop mode are not spoken.

Certainly on this phone, it is the case.

Thanks for taking the trouble to write.

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Re: question on braille screen input

2024-10-12 Thread Joe Paton
Yes Richard, that is exactly the problem.

It has behaved itself, but for a reason that I don't know, has stopped 
reporting the changes of orientation, also dots 1-4 are not changed as they 
used to be.

Thanks.

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Re: question on braille screen input

2024-10-12 Thread Joe Paton
Hi Chris,

I visited the settings you pointed out, they are as they should be, but thanks 
for taking the trouble and time to write.

Regards,

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RE: question on braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Hi,
I hear, "Screen Away mode," or "TableTop mode" when I move the phone between 
the two positions.
Is that what you are not hearing?
I'm not sure what would cause that.



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Hi Richard,

I am refering to the anouncement when you move the phone from table top, to 
screen away mode.  moving it through 45 degrees as it were.

Thanks.

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Re: question on braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Joe Paton
Hi Richard,

I am refering to the anouncement when you move the phone from table top, to 
screen away mode.  moving it through 45 degrees as it were.

Thanks.

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RE: question on braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread chaffin102468


Go to Braille in the voiceover settings, then double tap on Braille Screen 
Input.
In there check under the typing feedback heading to make sure sound is turned 
on and haptic is turned on.
Then next, check the mode announcements and make sure speak and play sounds is 
selected.

Hopefully this will help.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question on braille screen input

Hello all.
Hope you are all keeping good times alive.
running Iphone 15 pro, and IOS 18.1

the problem is, that when braille screen input is running, when the phone is 
turned to screen away position, the spoken notification has stopped.
no haptic either.  I don't recall making a change here, so what should I check.

The braille screen input is anounced when activated, and when it is turned off.

Thank you.

Joe.P



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RE: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
That is what I would do and then backup the phone with the settings the way you 
want them, 😊.

Good luck,

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

I think you are correct. I guess the good news is if I reset all settings at 
least I won't lose any data. I will just have to spend time tweeking every 
thing to my liking.

Thank you for all of your suggestions.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 11, 2024, at 11:33 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



So, the problem is in your backup.

At least, that is the conclusion I would reach.

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

Hi,

I did clean the screen. I also went a step further and chose to reset all 
settings. This fixed the issue. I then restored my backup to get my settings 
back and the problem came back az well.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Oct 11, 2024, at 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Cory, this is very confusing.

This is a complete long shot, but have you cleaned the screen?

Or, I’m also wondering if you are finding any other gestures or screen touches 
that are not working correctly.

There were reports of some 16 pros having dead spots on the screen, but the 
18.0.1 update was supposed to address that.  Who knows.

Do you have an Apple store anywhere near you where you could get it physically 
checked out?

 

 

 

 

Richard,

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– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

Thanks,

I did check that. I even changed it to something else and then back to default 
action again. 

I am totally confused by this.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone







On Oct 11, 2024, at 10:42 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



IN the Settings for VoiceOver, under Commands, for Braille Screen Input, it 
defines the three finger swipe up as “quick Action.”

I had not looked at that before.  That must be a gesture whose context makes it 
do whatever is appropriate in that app.

You may want to make sure that your setting does have quick action selected…

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

I am using Away Mode.

I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.

I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time 
without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.

I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help 
it.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone








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RE: question on braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
So, you are on the beta?
What notification exactly are you talking about?  As you write, or the standard 
notifications on the phone?
There are a lot of settings now for Braille Screen Input, and you can have it 
speak characters, words, or both or neither I think.
Perhaps a setting got changed there if you are talking about the feedback as 
you write.


Richard,
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Subject: question on braille screen input

Hello all.
Hope you are all keeping good times alive.
running Iphone 15 pro, and IOS 18.1

the problem is, that when braille screen input is running, when the phone is 
turned to screen away position, the spoken notification has stopped.
no haptic either.  I don't recall making a change here, so what should I check.

The braille screen input is anounced when activated, and when it is turned off.

Thank you.

Joe.P



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question on braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Joe Paton
Hello all.
Hope you are all keeping good times alive.
running Iphone 15 pro, and IOS 18.1

the problem is, that when braille screen input is running, when the phone is 
turned to screen away position, the spoken notification has stopped.
no haptic either.  I don't recall making a change here, so what should I check.

The braille screen input is anounced when activated, and when it is turned off.

Thank you.

Joe.P



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Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Cory Jackson
I think you are correct. I guess the good news is if I reset all settings at least I won't lose any data. I will just have to spend time tweeking every thing to my liking.Thank you for all of your suggestions.Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 11:33 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:So, the problem is in your backup.At least, that is the conclusion I would reach.   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:29 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input Hi,I did clean the screen. I also went a step further and chose to reset all settings. This fixed the issue. I then restored my backup to get my settings back and the problem came back az well.Regards:Cory Jackson Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:Cory, this is very confusing.This is a complete long shot, but have you cleaned the screen?Or, I’m also wondering if you are finding any other gestures or screen touches that are not working correctly.There were reports of some 16 pros having dead spots on the screen, but the 18.0.1 update was supposed to address that.  Who knows.Do you have an Apple store anywhere near you where you could get it physically checked out?Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:07 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input Thanks,I did check that. I even changed it to something else and then back to default action again. I am totally confused by this.Regards:Cory Jackson Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 10:42 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:IN the Settings for VoiceOver, under Commands, for Braille Screen Input, it defines the three finger swipe up as “quick Action.”I had not looked at that before.  That must be a gesture whose context makes it do whatever is appropriate in that app.You may want to make sure that your setting does have quick action selected…   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Friday, October 11, 2024 6:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input I am using Away Mode.I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help it.Regards:Cory Jackson Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 8:16 AM, Lyne <l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> wrote:It works fine here.LyneLe 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> a écrit :Are you using away mode or tabletop mode?  Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson <coryl.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi,I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi Cory,I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.What phone and operating system are you using?Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braill

RE: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
So, the problem is in your backup.

At least, that is the conclusion I would reach.

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

Hi,

I did clean the screen. I also went a step further and chose to reset all 
settings. This fixed the issue. I then restored my backup to get my settings 
back and the problem came back az well.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 11, 2024, at 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Cory, this is very confusing.

This is a complete long shot, but have you cleaned the screen?

Or, I’m also wondering if you are finding any other gestures or screen touches 
that are not working correctly.

There were reports of some 16 pros having dead spots on the screen, but the 
18.0.1 update was supposed to address that.  Who knows.

Do you have an Apple store anywhere near you where you could get it physically 
checked out?

 

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

Thanks,

I did check that. I even changed it to something else and then back to default 
action again. 

I am totally confused by this.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Oct 11, 2024, at 10:42 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



IN the Settings for VoiceOver, under Commands, for Braille Screen Input, it 
defines the three finger swipe up as “quick Action.”

I had not looked at that before.  That must be a gesture whose context makes it 
do whatever is appropriate in that app.

You may want to make sure that your setting does have quick action selected…

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

I am using Away Mode.

I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.

I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time 
without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.

I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help 
it.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone







On Oct 11, 2024, at 8:16 AM, Lyne mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It works fine here.

Lyne







Le 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > a écrit :



Are you using away mode or tabletop mode? 

 

Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 







On Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,
I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I 
looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks 
Regards:
Cory Jackson

Sent from my iPhone






On Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Cory,

I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.

What phone and operating system are you using?

Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”

– Jane Wagner, from The Se

Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Cory Jackson
Hi,I did clean the screen. I also went a step further and chose to reset all settings. This fixed the issue. I then restored my backup to get my settings back and the problem came back az well.Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Cory, this is very confusing.This is a complete long shot, but have you cleaned the screen?Or, I’m also wondering if you are finding any other gestures or screen touches that are not working correctly.There were reports of some 16 pros having dead spots on the screen, but the 18.0.1 update was supposed to address that.  Who knows.Do you have an Apple store anywhere near you where you could get it physically checked out?Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:07 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input Thanks,I did check that. I even changed it to something else and then back to default action again. I am totally confused by this.Regards:Cory Jackson Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 10:42 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:IN the Settings for VoiceOver, under Commands, for Braille Screen Input, it defines the three finger swipe up as “quick Action.”I had not looked at that before.  That must be a gesture whose context makes it do whatever is appropriate in that app.You may want to make sure that your setting does have quick action selected…   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Friday, October 11, 2024 6:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input I am using Away Mode.I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help it.Regards:Cory Jackson Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 8:16 AM, Lyne <l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> wrote:It works fine here.LyneLe 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> a écrit :Are you using away mode or tabletop mode?  Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson <coryl.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi,I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi Cory,I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.What phone and operating system are you using?Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I have been unable to resolve the problem.For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger swipe gesture.,Regards:Cory Jackson --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or

RE: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Cory, this is very confusing.

This is a complete long shot, but have you cleaned the screen?

Or, I’m also wondering if you are finding any other gestures or screen touches 
that are not working correctly.

There were reports of some 16 pros having dead spots on the screen, but the 
18.0.1 update was supposed to address that.  Who knows.

Do you have an Apple store anywhere near you where you could get it physically 
checked out?

 

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

Thanks,

I did check that. I even changed it to something else and then back to default 
action again. 

I am totally confused by this.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 11, 2024, at 10:42 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



IN the Settings for VoiceOver, under Commands, for Braille Screen Input, it 
defines the three finger swipe up as “quick Action.”

I had not looked at that before.  That must be a gesture whose context makes it 
do whatever is appropriate in that app.

You may want to make sure that your setting does have quick action selected…

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

I am using Away Mode.

I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.

I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time 
without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.

I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help 
it.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Oct 11, 2024, at 8:16 AM, Lyne mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It works fine here.

Lyne






Le 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > a écrit :



Are you using away mode or tabletop mode? 

 

Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 






On Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,
I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I 
looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks 
Regards:
Cory Jackson

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Cory,

I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.

What phone and operating system are you using?

Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille 
screen input

 

For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille 
screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I 
have been unable to resolve the problem.

For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up 
gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After 
resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored 
to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my 
backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.

I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I 
have yet to find a s

Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Cory Jackson
Thanks,I did check that. I even changed it to something else and then back to default action again. I am totally confused by this.Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 10:42 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:IN the Settings for VoiceOver, under Commands, for Braille Screen Input, it defines the three finger swipe up as “quick Action.”I had not looked at that before.  That must be a gesture whose context makes it do whatever is appropriate in that app.You may want to make sure that your setting does have quick action selected…   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Friday, October 11, 2024 6:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input I am using Away Mode.I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help it.Regards:Cory Jackson Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 8:16 AM, Lyne <l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> wrote:It works fine here.LyneLe 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> a écrit :Are you using away mode or tabletop mode?  Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c On Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson <coryl.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi,I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi Cory,I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.What phone and operating system are you using?Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I have been unable to resolve the problem.For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger swipe gesture.,Regards:Cory Jackson --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6DD646C2-5652-4529-A71C-A2A54BB7A5E0%40gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 

RE: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
IN the Settings for VoiceOver, under Commands, for Braille Screen Input, it 
defines the three finger swipe up as “quick Action.”

I had not looked at that before.  That must be a gesture whose context makes it 
do whatever is appropriate in that app.

You may want to make sure that your setting does have quick action selected…

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
braille screen input

 

I am using Away Mode.

I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.

I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time 
without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.

I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help 
it.

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 11, 2024, at 8:16 AM, Lyne mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It works fine here.

Lyne





Le 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > a écrit :



Are you using away mode or tabletop mode? 

 

Richard, USA

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c

 





On Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,
I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I 
looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks 
Regards:
Cory Jackson

Sent from my iPhone




On Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Cory,

I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.

What phone and operating system are you using?

Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?

 

 

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

-Original Message-

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Jackson

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille 
screen input

 

For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille 
screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I 
have been unable to resolve the problem.

For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up 
gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After 
resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored 
to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my 
backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.

I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I 
have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am 
eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger swipe 
gesture.,

Regards:

Cory Jackson

 

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Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Cory Jackson
I am using Away Mode.I just restored my backup to my old device, and it broke again.I then went into the Reset option and reset one set of options at a time without any luck. I then chose to reset all settings, and that fixed it.I really don't want to have to reset all settings on my new phone if I can help it.Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 11, 2024, at 8:16 AM, Lyne  wrote:It works fine here.LyneLe 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  a écrit :Are you using away mode or tabletop mode? Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John WesleyMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) cOn Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:Hi,I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Hi Cory,I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.What phone and operating system are you using?Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.My web site: https://www.turner42.com-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen inputFor an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I have been unable to resolve the problem.For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger swipe gesture.,Regards:Cory Jackson--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6DD646C2-5652-4529-A71C-A2A54BB7A5E0%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01db1b8d%24c6d52e00%24547f8a00%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Lyne
It works fine here.LyneLe 11 oct. 2024 à 08:09, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  a écrit :Are you using away mode or tabletop mode? Richard, USA"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John WesleyMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) cOn Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:Hi,I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Hi Cory,I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.What phone and operating system are you using?Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.My web site: https://www.turner42.com-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory JacksonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen inputFor an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I have been unable to resolve the problem.For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger swipe gesture.,Regards:Cory Jackson--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6DD646C2-5652-4529-A71C-A2A54BB7A5E0%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01db1b8d%24c6d52e00%24547f8a00%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E5D8A7A4-05FE-46A4-AABA-52CD8F51ECF5%40gmail.com.



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Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Are you using away mode or tabletop mode? 

Richard, USA
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(sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c


> On Oct 11, 2024, at 4:36 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I 
> looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Cory,
>> I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.
>> What phone and operating system are you using?
>> Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard,
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory 
>> Jackson
>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
>> braille screen input
>> 
>> For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille 
>> screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I 
>> have been unable to resolve the problem.
>> For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up 
>> gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After 
>> resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was 
>> restored to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone 
>> with my backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.
>> I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, 
>> but I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly 
>> appreciated. I am eager to regain the ability to send messages using the 
>> three-finger swipe gesture.,
>> Regards:
>> Cory Jackson
>> 
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Re: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-11 Thread Cory Jackson
Hi,
I am am running 16.1 beta 6 on both devices. I have a 14 pro and a 16 pro. I 
looked through the settings and don't see anything that looks 
Regards:
Cory Jackson

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2024, at 11:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cory,
> I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.
> What phone and operating system are you using?
> Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard,
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory 
> Jackson
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using 
> braille screen input
> 
> For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille 
> screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I 
> have been unable to resolve the problem.
> For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up 
> gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After 
> resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was 
> restored to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone 
> with my backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.
> I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but 
> I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 
> I am eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger 
> swipe gesture.,
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
> 
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RE: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-10 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Hi Cory,
I just tried it on my 16 pro running iOS 18.0.1 and it worked fine.
What phone and operating system are you using?
Had you set any custom gestures in VoiceOver commands?



Richard,
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cory 
Jackson
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille 
screen input

For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille 
screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I 
have been unable to resolve the problem.
For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up 
gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After 
resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored 
to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my 
backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.
I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I 
have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am 
eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger swipe 
gesture.,
Regards:
Cory Jackson

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unable to send text messages with 3 finger swipe up when using braille screen input

2024-10-10 Thread Cory Jackson
For an extended period, I have encountered a peculiar issue with the braille 
screen input on my iPhone. Despite my efforts to identify the root cause, I 
have been unable to resolve the problem.
For quite some time, I have been unable to perform a three-finger swipe up 
gesture to send messages within the iPhone Messages application. After 
resetting my previous phone to its default settings, the function was restored 
to its normal functionality. However, upon setting up my new phone with my 
backup data, I am once again experiencing the same issue.
I have thoroughly examined the keyboard settings and voiceover shortcuts, but I 
have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am 
eager to regain the ability to send messages using the three-finger swipe 
gesture.,
Regards:
Cory Jackson

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Braille Screen Input: What's New in iOS and iPad OS 18? Tuesday at 7:30 PM UK Time

2024-09-14 Thread Matthew Horspool
Hi everyone,
Braille Screen Input has been overhauled!
iOS and iPad OS 18, due for release on Monday 16 September, include the biggest 
refresh of Braille Screen Input since the feature was first introduced in iOS 
8. Although you can, for the most part, still use Braille Screen Input as you 
always have done, the new functionality in Apple's latest flagship operating 
systems is a source of much excitement throughout the blind community and will 
almost certainly take your Braille Screen Input experience to the next level.
Join the Braillists Foundation on Tuesday 17 September at 7:30 PM UK time, as 
Matthew Horspool talks us through:

  *   The devices supported by iOS and iPad OS 18
  *   New ways to enter and exit Braille Screen Input
  *   New sounds and haptics
  *   Braille entry improvements
  *   Using Braille Screen Input to control and navigate your iPhone or iPad
We welcome your questions during the session and we will make sure we allow 
plenty of time to answer them!
To register, please use this link: 
https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZ0rcuiurD4jEtzda-jQnGPzOtRBBVQuB3YX
Looking forward to seeing you there!
Matthew

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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I had never heard of this gesture, I am glad it is there for those who want it. I won't use it, though, being that I want to read what I am about to send,   to make sure it doesn't have any errors, and   is what I really want to send. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Mar 16, 2024, at 10:59 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:I just did that the other day, so no, I’m not experiencing this behavior.Jenn
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On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:39 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:Hi all,I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input mode.Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/15E5F491-2661-4E47-8C94-9710ADC898E9%40gmail.com.



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RE: sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Richard Turner
OK, that does work once I realized that since I am writing in screen away mode, 
three finger swipe up is toward my head and the three finger swipe indeed sends 
a text message.

The Apple list of gestures says the three finger swipe up also enters a 
carriage return when not in a text message, which it does, but it also says to 
move to a new line, a two finger swipe right works, which it does as well.

VoiceOver says “new line” for both commands.

Perhaps the two finger swipe right is a soft return while the three finger 
swipe up is a hard return?

In any case, I appreciate knowing I can send a text more easily.

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 7:35 AM
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Yest it is. Type braille directly on the iPhone screen with VoiceOver - Apple 
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I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button. 

Is that a default gesture?

 

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On Mar 16, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Cory Jackson mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,
I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input 
mode.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Regards:
Cory Jackson

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks.

It didn’t work for me, but I will try again and make note of this list of 
gestures.

 

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Yest it is. Type braille directly on the iPhone screen with VoiceOver - Apple 
Support 
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I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button. 

Is that a default gesture?

 

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On Mar 16, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Cory Jackson mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,
I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input 
mode.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Regards:
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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Jennie Facer
I just did that the other day, so no, I’m not experiencing this behavior.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:39 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer 
> possible to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille 
> screen input mode.
> Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
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RE: sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yest it is. Type braille directly on the iPhone screen with VoiceOver - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/type-braille-on-the-screen-iph10366cc30/ios#:~:text=Enter%20braille%20on%20the%20screen%201%20Set%20the,%E2%80%9Cz%E2%80%9D%29%2C%20or%20adjust%20the%20rotor%20to%20another%20setting.>

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I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button.
Is that a default gesture?

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On Mar 16, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Cory Jackson 
mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input 
mode.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Regards:
Cory Jackson

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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Lyne
Hello,
No issue here with Message but with WhatsApp yes.

Lyne

> Le 16 mars 2024 à 09:40, Cory Jackson  a écrit :
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> Hi all,
> I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer 
> possible to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille 
> screen input mode.
> Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Richard Turner
I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button. 
Is that a default gesture?

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> On Mar 16, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer 
> possible to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille 
> screen input mode.
> Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
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sending text messages using braille screen input

2024-03-16 Thread Cory Jackson
Hi all,
I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input 
mode.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Regards:
Cory Jackson

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Braille screen input with google search?

2023-09-19 Thread Lelia Struve
Hi all, I have an iPhone 14 pro.  I do not have the 17 update.  But I noticed 
that when I do a Google search and use the braille screen input it doesn’t work 
anymore. Is anyone else havingthis problem? Thanks.   

Lelia 

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RE: Braille Screen Input

2023-01-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
For some reason, I thought you placed the three fingers from one hand down 
first and then the three fingers from the other hand, but this never worked for 
me! I'll try this method, but it doesn't seem like it saves too much over just 
typing the letters f, o and r. 😉

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I knew it was something like that, but I just could not get it to work.  I got 
it now.  I was not releasingmy fingers quick enough.

Thanks,

Chris
 


> On Jan 18, 2023, at 9:32 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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> Hi Chris,
> 
> What you do is type a Q, then lift 1 finger, then type dot 6, then lift all 
> fingers.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 7:14 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> How do you type the word, f o r, for, using braille screen input on the 
>> iPhone, since it will not recognize using all six dots at the same time.  
>> Just having a little brain fog this morning, so any help with this would be 
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Re: Braille Screen Input

2023-01-18 Thread Chris Chaffin


I knew it was something like that, but I just could not get it to work.  I got 
it now.  I was not releasingmy fingers quick enough.

Thanks,

Chris
 


> On Jan 18, 2023, at 9:32 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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> Hi Chris,
> 
> What you do is type a Q, then lift 1 finger, then type dot 6, then lift all 
> fingers.
> 
> Jenn
> 
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>> How do you type the word, f o r, for, using braille screen input on the 
>> iPhone, since it will not recognize using all six dots at the same time.  
>> Just having a little brain fog this morning, so any help with this would be 
>> appreciated.
>> 
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Re: Braille Screen Input

2023-01-18 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Chris,

What you do is type a Q, then lift 1 finger, then type dot 6, then lift all 
fingers.

Jenn

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> On Jan 18, 2023, at 7:14 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
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> How do you type the word, f o r, for, using braille screen input on the 
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Braille Screen Input

2023-01-18 Thread Chris Chaffin



How do you type the word, f o r, for, using braille screen input on the iPhone, 
since it will not recognize using all six dots at the same time.  Just having a 
little brain fog this morning, so any help with this would be appreciated.


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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
You activate this in the Rotor.If it dosen't in the Rotor add "braille Screen Input into the Rotor.מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ ‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 21:22, ‏‏Mohammad Fazil ‏ כתב/ה:‬




Thanks much! How can I activate Braille typing, please?
Thanks!


On Nov 5, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Gordon  wrote:



Table top mode is just like a perkins without the space bar in the middle. So dot 3 will be closest to the ear peace speaker and dot 6 will be closest to the bottom of the screen where the charger goes. But your finger positioning will be the same as it
 would be with a Perkins. The phone will either sit on your lap or a surface in front of you. Screen away mode is better for holding the phone in your hands. In screen away mode the back of the phone is facing your chest long ways where the ear peace is on
 the left and the bottom of the screen on your right. You use your thumbs and pinkies to hold the phone and part of your palm would be up against the bottom speaker on your right hand the your left palm would be resting on the top of the phone nearest the ear
 peace. Then you're working with the width of the phone to position your six fingers to type the dots. Dot 1 would be near the mute switch and going across would be dots 2 and 3. And you'll do the same with your right hand coming from the bottom of the phone 
 which will make dots 4,5,6. This method takes a little practice to get used to because it is definitely different from what you're used to. However it's the fastest for me and definitely more comfortable. You might find that table top mode can help you get
 used to the concept of typing Braille on a touch screen and then graduate to screen away mode like I did. It all comes much easier once you get used to the concept of what you're doing. But if you give it a fair amount of time, you'll be typing like a pro
 in no time. It took me about a month because I tried it and didn't like it at first. But when I decided I was going to learn it, I picked it up in about 15 minutes.


On 11/5/2022 1:14 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:


Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than its  length with earpiece upward?
/Thanks!



On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin 
 wrote:





Hi,


First, table top mode and away mode.


Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again,
 going from center to right.


Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the dots are on
 top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.


Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so
 you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.


I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.


Hope this helps answer your questions.


Chris





On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון <liel...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? 


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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Thanks much! How can I activate Braille typing, please?
Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Gordon  wrote:


Table top mode is just like a perkins without the space bar in the middle. So 
dot 3 will be closest to the ear peace speaker and dot 6 will be closest to the 
bottom of the screen where the charger goes. But your finger positioning will 
be the same as it would be with a Perkins. The phone will either sit on your 
lap or a surface in front of you. Screen away mode is better for holding the 
phone in your hands. In screen away mode the back of the phone is facing your 
chest long ways where the ear peace is on the left and the bottom of the screen 
on your right. You use your thumbs and pinkies to hold the phone and part of 
your palm would be up against the bottom speaker on your right hand the your 
left palm would be resting on the top of the phone nearest the ear peace. Then 
you're working with the width of the phone to position your six fingers to type 
the dots. Dot 1 would be near the mute switch and going across would be dots 2 
and 3. And you'll do the same with your right hand coming from the bottom of 
the phone  which will make dots 4,5,6. This method takes a little practice to 
get used to because it is definitely different from what you're used to. 
However it's the fastest for me and definitely more comfortable. You might find 
that table top mode can help you get used to the concept of typing Braille on a 
touch screen and then graduate to screen away mode like I did. It all comes 
much easier once you get used to the concept of what you're doing. But if you 
give it a fair amount of time, you'll be typing like a pro in no time. It took 
me about a month because I tried it and didn't like it at first. But when I 
decided I was going to learn it, I picked it up in about 15 minutes.

On 11/5/2022 1:14 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:
Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than 
its  length with earpiece upward?
/Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin 
<mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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0509549090
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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Mohammad Fazil
You have done a fantastic job by typing it all in braille! I am impressed! and 
proud of you!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 9:23 AM, ⁨Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון⁩ 
<⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:

Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.
Now I understand why it's happns to me.
I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.
It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away mode and 
orientation  locked.
now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to type.
I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I like it.
I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.
It's a grate feature.

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0509549090
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‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin ‏ כתב/ה:‬


Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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0509549090
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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Gordon
Table top mode is just like a perkins without the space bar in the 
middle. So dot 3 will be closest to the ear peace speaker and dot 6 will 
be closest to the bottom of the screen where the charger goes. But your 
finger positioning will be the same as it would be with a Perkins. The 
phone will either sit on your lap or a surface in front of you. Screen 
away mode is better for holding the phone in your hands. In screen away 
mode the back of the phone is facing your chest long ways where the ear 
peace is on the left and the bottom of the screen on your right. You use 
your thumbs and pinkies to hold the phone and part of your palm would be 
up against the bottom speaker on your right hand the your left palm 
would be resting on the top of the phone nearest the ear peace. Then 
you're working with the width of the phone to position your six fingers 
to type the dots. Dot 1 would be near the mute switch and going across 
would be dots 2 and 3. And you'll do the same with your right hand 
coming from the bottom of the phone  which will make dots 4,5,6. This 
method takes a little practice to get used to because it is definitely 
different from what you're used to. However it's the fastest for me and 
definitely more comfortable. You might find that table top mode can help 
you get used to the concept of typing Braille on a touch screen and then 
graduate to screen away mode like I did. It all comes much easier once 
you get used to the concept of what you're doing. But if you give it a 
fair amount of time, you'll be typing like a pro in no time. It took me 
about a month because I tried it and didn't like it at first. But when I 
decided I was going to learn it, I picked it up in about 15 minutes.


On 11/5/2022 1:14 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:
Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own 
clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone 
rather than its  length with earpiece upward?

/Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin  
wrote:


Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the 
dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would 
have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right 
side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.


Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you 
with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in 
two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going 
from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. 
And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from 
top to bottom.


Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it 
is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the 
position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want 
to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three 
finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch 
side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation 
locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture 
to unlock the orientation.


I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille 
Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, 
then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of 
the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.


Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
 wrote:


Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and 
sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my 
fingers all the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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RE: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Richard Turner
Tabletop mode is designed to lay the phone on its back flat on a table and 
write as if you were writing on a Perkins Brailer.

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification: 

Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than 
its  length with earpiece upward? 

/Thanks!





On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

 

First, table top mode and away mode.

 

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

 

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

 

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.

there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.

So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

 

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

 

Hope this helps answer your questions.

 

Chris

 





On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון mailto:liel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that. 

What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?

And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.

Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? 

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0509549090

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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than 
its  length with earpiece upward?
/Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
My Hable One bluetooth keyboard has braille buttons that work pretty
much like braille screenaway mode.  I can type very quickly when
needing to enter in a text message.  It is great.

On 11/5/22, Gordon  wrote:
> I use the screen away method and can type as fast as any sighted person.
> I was really bumbed out when the flick type keyboard went away. However
> when I spent a couple of days with BSI, I didn't miss it at all. I can
> type faster with BSI than I could with flick type. And it only requires
> a little time of practice to learn how to do it.
>
> On 11/5/2022 11:23 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון wrote:
>> Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.
>> Now I understand why it's happns to me.
>> I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.
>> It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away
>> mode and orientation  locked.
>> now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to
>> type.
>> I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I
>> like it.
>> I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.
>> It's a grate feature.
>>
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>>
>>> ‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin
>>> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> First, table top mode and away mode.
>>>
>>> Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the
>>> dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would
>>> have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right
>>> side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you
>>> with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in
>>> two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going
>>> from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column.
>>> And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from
>>> top to bottom.
>>>
>>> Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it
>>> is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the
>>> position of your phone.
>>> there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want
>>> to do.
>>> So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three
>>> finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch
>>> side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation
>>> locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture
>>> to unlock the orientation.
>>>
>>> I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille
>>> Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands,
>>> then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of
>>> the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps answer your questions.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
>>>> What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
>>>> And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and
>>>> sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
>>>> Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my
>>>> fingers all the times?
>>>> and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?
>>>>
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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Gordon
I use the screen away method and can type as fast as any sighted person. 
I was really bumbed out when the flick type keyboard went away. However 
when I spent a couple of days with BSI, I didn't miss it at all. I can 
type faster with BSI than I could with flick type. And it only requires 
a little time of practice to learn how to do it.


On 11/5/2022 11:23 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון wrote:

Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.
Now I understand why it's happns to me.
I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.
It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away 
mode and orientation  locked.
now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to 
type.
I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I 
like it.

I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.
It's a grate feature.

מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.
0509549090
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‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin 
‏ כתב/ה:‬



Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the 
dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would 
have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right 
side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.


Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you 
with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in 
two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going 
from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. 
And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from 
top to bottom.


Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it 
is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the 
position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want 
to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three 
finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch 
side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation 
locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture 
to unlock the orientation.


I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille 
Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, 
then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of 
the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.


Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
 wrote:


 Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and 
sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my 
fingers all the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.Now I understand why it's happns to me.I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away mode and orientation  locked.now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to type.I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I like it.I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.It's a grate feature.מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ ‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin ‏ כתב/ה:‬Hi,First, table top mode and away mode.Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your phone.there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.Hope this helps answer your questions.ChrisOn Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  wrote:Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all the times?and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 



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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi,First, table top mode and away mode.Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your phone.there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.Hope this helps answer your questions.ChrisOn Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  wrote:Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all the times?and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 



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Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? 

מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.
0509549090
לדף העסקי שלי:
https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/
 

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RE: How should I set up braille screen input please

2021-08-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain
In addition to Anna's information below, a three finger swipe left or right 
will let you change between contracted and uncontracted braille. This comes in 
handy sometimes because there are times you don't want to use contracted 
braille.

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Dresner
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: How should I set up braille screen input please

Hi Joshua,

There are two orientations for Braille Screen Input: Tabletop and Screen Away 
mode. In tabletop mode, the keys are arranged like a Perkins brailler. In 
Screen Away mode, you hold the phone between your palms with the screen facing 
away from you. When you wrap your hands around the phone so you can touch the 
screen, your left hand does dots 1, 2, and 3 in a column with 1 on the top, and 
your right hand does dots 4, 5, and 6 in the same orientation. I like this mode 
because my hands are more likely to stay in the same place than when I use 
Tabletop mode, but I would recommend trying them both to see which you prefer.

You can set the default grade of braille from the 
Settings/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Braille screen using the Onscreen Braille 
Input setting.

When you are typing, flick right with one finger for Space and with two fingers 
for Return. Flick left with one finger to delete a character and with two to 
delete a word. The iPhone user guide includes all the commands, so check that 
out as well. I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all you fine iPhone people out there.  How should I set up 
> braille screen input on my iPhone 8?  I did get a little help from 
> apple accessibility.  I have gotten braille screen input in my router.
> I tried it out, and how do I set it to contracted input.  I also heard 
> something about landscape mode, or tabletop mode.  What is that all 
> about.  I have my iPhone orientation locked if that makes any 
> difference.  I hope someone can help.  If I can get the iPhone to 
> recognize my fingers consistantly, this will be very cool.
> 
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Re: How should I set up braille screen input please

2021-08-12 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Joshua,

There are two orientations for Braille Screen Input: Tabletop and Screen Away 
mode. In tabletop mode, the keys are arranged like a Perkins brailler. In 
Screen Away mode, you hold the phone between your palms with the screen facing 
away from you. When you wrap your hands around the phone so you can touch the 
screen, your left hand does dots 1, 2, and 3 in a column with 1 on the top, and 
your right hand does dots 4, 5, and 6 in the same orientation. I like this mode 
because my hands are more likely to stay in the same place than when I use 
Tabletop mode, but I would recommend trying them both to see which you prefer.

You can set the default grade of braille from the 
Settings/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Braille screen using the Onscreen Braille 
Input setting.

When you are typing, flick right with one finger for Space and with two fingers 
for Return. Flick left with one finger to delete a character and with two to 
delete a word. The iPhone user guide includes all the commands, so check that 
out as well. I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all you fine iPhone people out there.  How should I set up
> braille screen input on my iPhone 8?  I did get a little help from
> apple accessibility.  I have gotten braille screen input in my router.
> I tried it out, and how do I set it to contracted input.  I also heard
> something about landscape mode, or tabletop mode.  What is that all
> about.  I have my iPhone orientation locked if that makes any
> difference.  I hope someone can help.  If I can get the iPhone to
> recognize my fingers consistantly, this will be very cool.
> 
> -- 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
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How should I set up braille screen input please

2021-08-12 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Hello to all you fine iPhone people out there.  How should I set up
braille screen input on my iPhone 8?  I did get a little help from
apple accessibility.  I have gotten braille screen input in my router.
I tried it out, and how do I set it to contracted input.  I also heard
something about landscape mode, or tabletop mode.  What is that all
about.  I have my iPhone orientation locked if that makes any
difference.  I hope someone can help.  If I can get the iPhone to
recognize my fingers consistantly, this will be very cool.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: Braille screen input - was - Re: you mail

2021-08-12 Thread 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone
As do I. It’s a very neat method to typing. 

> On Aug 12, 2021, at 00:39, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> I love Braille Screen Input! It’s so much faster for me than using the 
> onscreen keyboard. It does take some getting used to at first, but when 
> mastered, is great IMHO. But, as you said Richard, to each his or her own. :) 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I found using braille screen input rather easy to master.
>> 
>> But, to each his/her own.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: you mail
>> 
>> I have never used braille screen input.  I always use the regular on screen 
>> keyboard.  I have no idea how to use braille screen input.  It sounds 
>> difficult.
>> 
>>> On 8/10/21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> No, I turned off my braille display, and also made sure my Orbit 
>>> Writer was also off. Right now I'm using braille screen input with 
>>> success here in this email. Perhaps a reboot will help. I have the 
>>> iPhone 8 Plus with iOS 14.7.1.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ON an off chance, do you have a keyboard connected and the phone 
>>>> thinks it is in quick nav?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Web site: 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>>> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C996617cff264489b8ac608d95c0ed8b4
>>>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637642041097019057%7CUn
>>>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>>>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RpLlBSoHvZowCklXUwCJ4kNVdjTlVUZP5j
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>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:29 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: you mail
>>>> 
>>>> Well, when you open the app, and give it permissions like other apps 
>>>> do, then it asks you to input your 10-digit phone number, followed by 
>>>> an email and create a password, however, I'm having difficulty with 
>>>> regards to inputting my phone number, all I hear is the sound one 
>>>> here's when voiceover has reached the end of a screen and nothing is 
>>>> in the text field though I've clearly double-tapped to make sure I was in 
>>>> edit mode.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Casey Wollner  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi for those of you who use the you mail app what is the best way to 
>>>> set it up and do you have to pay for all of its futures?
>>>> Or is the free version good enough?
>>>> And then how do you set it up and then disable your voice mail so it 
>>>> will use the you mail App?
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Braille screen input - was - Re: you mail

2021-08-11 Thread SoonerAnnie
I love Braille Screen Input! It’s so much faster for me than using the onscreen 
keyboard. It does take some getting used to at first, but when mastered, is 
great IMHO. But, as you said Richard, to each his or her own. :) 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I found using braille screen input rather easy to master.
> 
> But, to each his/her own.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: you mail
> 
> I have never used braille screen input.  I always use the regular on screen 
> keyboard.  I have no idea how to use braille screen input.  It sounds 
> difficult.
> 
>> On 8/10/21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> No, I turned off my braille display, and also made sure my Orbit 
>> Writer was also off. Right now I'm using braille screen input with 
>> success here in this email. Perhaps a reboot will help. I have the 
>> iPhone 8 Plus with iOS 14.7.1.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ON an off chance, do you have a keyboard connected and the phone 
>>> thinks it is in quick nav?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C996617cff264489b8ac608d95c0ed8b4
>>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637642041097019057%7CUn
>>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
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>>> g83WufKm8%3D&reserved=0
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: you mail
>>> 
>>> Well, when you open the app, and give it permissions like other apps 
>>> do, then it asks you to input your 10-digit phone number, followed by 
>>> an email and create a password, however, I'm having difficulty with 
>>> regards to inputting my phone number, all I hear is the sound one 
>>> here's when voiceover has reached the end of a screen and nothing is 
>>> in the text field though I've clearly double-tapped to make sure I was in 
>>> edit mode.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Casey Wollner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi for those of you who use the you mail app what is the best way to 
>>> set it up and do you have to pay for all of its futures?
>>> Or is the free version good enough?
>>> And then how do you set it up and then disable your voice mail so it 
>>> will use the you mail App?
>>> 
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RE: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

2020-08-20 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi,

I can't remember the subscribe address 

Richard, do you have it?

But try this for the owners and they will be able to give you the right 
information.

public-beta-users+ow...@groups.io

Cheers,

Simon F



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Friday, 21 August 2020 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

What is the list for folks using an iOS Beta?


Thanks,

~Ann




On 8/20/2020 8:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
>   Beta conversations shouldn't be discussed on this list,
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> Subject: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet
>
> Hi everyone,
> I don’t know if anyone else is running the beta for iOS 14, but I installed 
> it last night and have discovered some bugs in the Braille screen input. 
> Wanted to see if anyone else had these same problems. First off, even though 
> I have VO set to speak both characters and words, it only speaks characters. 
> Secondly, it has stopped announcing spaces, making you question whether or 
> not you entered it correctly. Finally, when you try to delete the previous 
> word, nothing is spoken at all.
> I have reported these bugs in the feedback app, but thought it would be worth 
> writing here to see if anyone else is running the beta and can confirm. If 
> so, please also submit feedback to Apple via the feedback app, so this gets 
> fixed in the next beta.
> Thanks for your help.
> Justin
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>

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Re: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

2020-08-20 Thread Ann

What is the list for folks using an iOS Beta?


Thanks,

~Ann




On 8/20/2020 8:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Justin,

  Beta conversations shouldn't be discussed on this list,

There is a list for Beta testing discussions if you whished to join it.

Otherwise please note the moderaters don't wish this type of thing on the list 
due to NDA



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Sent: Friday, 21 August 2020 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

Hi everyone,
I don’t know if anyone else is running the beta for iOS 14, but I installed it 
last night and have discovered some bugs in the Braille screen input. Wanted to 
see if anyone else had these same problems. First off, even though I have VO 
set to speak both characters and words, it only speaks characters. Secondly, it 
has stopped announcing spaces, making you question whether or not you entered 
it correctly. Finally, when you try to delete the previous word, nothing is 
spoken at all.
I have reported these bugs in the feedback app, but thought it would be worth 
writing here to see if anyone else is running the beta and can confirm. If so, 
please also submit feedback to Apple via the feedback app, so this gets fixed 
in the next beta.
Thanks for your help.
Justin

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RE: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

2020-08-20 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Justin,

 Beta conversations shouldn't be discussed on this list,

There is a list for Beta testing discussions if you whished to join it.

Otherwise please note the moderaters don't wish this type of thing on the list 
due to NDA 



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Subject: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

Hi everyone,
I don’t know if anyone else is running the beta for iOS 14, but I installed it 
last night and have discovered some bugs in the Braille screen input. Wanted to 
see if anyone else had these same problems. First off, even though I have VO 
set to speak both characters and words, it only speaks characters. Secondly, it 
has stopped announcing spaces, making you question whether or not you entered 
it correctly. Finally, when you try to delete the previous word, nothing is 
spoken at all.
I have reported these bugs in the feedback app, but thought it would be worth 
writing here to see if anyone else is running the beta and can confirm. If so, 
please also submit feedback to Apple via the feedback app, so this gets fixed 
in the next beta.
Thanks for your help.
Justin 

Enviado desde mi iPhone

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RE: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

2020-08-20 Thread Richard Turner
You may want to join the Public Beta Users list.
Contact the list owner at: public-beta-users+ow...@groups.io

Betas should not be discussed here.




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Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

Hi everyone,
I don’t know if anyone else is running the beta for iOS 14, but I installed it 
last night and have discovered some bugs in the Braille screen input. Wanted to 
see if anyone else had these same problems. First off, even though I have VO 
set to speak both characters and words, it only speaks characters. Secondly, it 
has stopped announcing spaces, making you question whether or not you entered 
it correctly. Finally, when you try to delete the previous word, nothing is 
spoken at all.
I have reported these bugs in the feedback app, but thought it would be worth 
writing here to see if anyone else is running the beta and can confirm. If so, 
please also submit feedback to Apple via the feedback app, so this gets fixed 
in the next beta.
Thanks for your help.
Justin 

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Braille screen input bug in iOS 14 bet

2020-08-20 Thread justin171185
Hi everyone,
I don’t know if anyone else is running the beta for iOS 14, but I installed it 
last night and have discovered some bugs in the Braille screen input. Wanted to 
see if anyone else had these same problems. First off, even though I have VO 
set to speak both characters and words, it only speaks characters. Secondly, it 
has stopped announcing spaces, making you question whether or not you entered 
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spoken at all.
I have reported these bugs in the feedback app, but thought it would be worth 
writing here to see if anyone else is running the beta and can confirm. If so, 
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in the next beta.
Thanks for your help.
Justin 

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RE: Iphone SE 2020 and the braille screen input

2020-07-30 Thread Richard Turner
All those who want the scrub gesture for exiting braille screen input should 
write to apple accessibility.
Frankly, it is more work to me to do the scrub gesture than just one quick 
rotor turn, but that is just me.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone SE 2020 and the braille screen input

You aren’t doing anything wrong. The scrub gesture no longer works to exit 
braille screen input. You have to turn the roter to get out of BSI. It’s a real 
pain in my opinion.
Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

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justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.


On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Dan 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I am now trying to learn the new ways of doing things on this phone.  I have 
found that if I start using the braille screen input keyboard I can't get out 
of it.  I used to be able to do a 2 finger scrub and it would close but that 
doesn't seem to work now.



Any ideas what I am doing wrong?



Thanks.





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Re: Iphone SE 2020 and the braille screen input

2020-07-30 Thread Kimberly
You aren’t doing anything wrong. The scrub gesture no longer works to exit 
braille screen input. You have to turn the roter to get out of BSI. It’s a real 
pain in my opinion.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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> On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am now trying to learn the new ways of doing things on this phone.  I have 
> found that if I start using the braille screen input keyboard I can't get out 
> of it.  I used to be able to do a 2 finger scrub and it would close but that 
> doesn't seem to work now.
> 
> 
> 
> Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Iphone SE 2020 and the braille screen input

2020-07-28 Thread Justin Harris
Hi there,
Since Braille keyboard is in the rotor, just move to next rotor item and it 
should close. I have never used the SE, but when I had my XS, that’s how I used 
to do it.


> El jul. 28, 2020, a las 3:30 p. m., Dan  escribió:
> 
> I am now trying to learn the new ways of doing things on this phone.  I have 
> found that if I start using the braille screen input keyboard I can't get out 
> of it.  I used to be able to do a 2 finger scrub and it would close but that 
> doesn't seem to work now.
> 
> 
> 
> Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Iphone SE 2020 and the braille screen input

2020-07-28 Thread Dan

  
  
I am now trying to learn the new ways of doing things on this
phone.  I have found that if I start using the braille screen
input keyboard I can't get out of it.  I used to be able to do a
2 finger scrub and it would close but that doesn't seem to work
now.

  
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

  
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Re: Braille screen input in iOS 13.3.1?

2020-02-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
This started working for me all by itself on my iPhone 11, but I still 
had this problem on my iPhone 7, at least until I tried this three 
finger swipe up, which did seem to take care of the problem. thanks for 
the tip!




On 2/3/20 8:24 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:

The three finger swipe down worked! Thank you!
Harry


On 2 Feb 2020, at 17:28, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

Yes, that keystroke unlocks orientation for Brialle Screen Input, so it should 
fix the problem. Afterward, you may need to recalibrate the dots by entering 
dots 456 together, then dots 123.

Best,
Ana





On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

This is worth a try. I have not experienced the problem, still being on 12.4.4. 
In the past, when the dots have become all messed up, I have done a 
three-finger swipe down, and it has said unlocked, and the problem is solved. 
Hold the phone in landscape, and do the three-finger swipe down, going from 
where dot 1 would be, toward dot three. I am curious to know if this fixes it.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:37 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Thanks, that is reassuring! Perhaps a future update may cure the problem.
Harry


On 2 Feb 2020, at 15:32, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Yes, I'm having this problem as well. It's intermittent for me, so if I twist 
and turn the phone enough, eventually I get it into away mode. I've also used 
it as an opportunity to learn the table top mode, which is a lot more doable on 
my iPhone 11 then it was on the 4S.



On 2/2/20 2:59 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:
On my iPhone XS I’m trying to use Braille screen input but it seems stuck in 
tabletop mode and only displays properly if charging port is to the left. There 
seems no way to recalibrate the layout and no amount of turning the iPhone 
makes any difference. Is this a bug I should report or am I missing something?
Thanks
Harry


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Re: Braille screen input in iOS 13.3.1?

2020-02-03 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
The three finger swipe down worked! Thank you!
Harry

> On 2 Feb 2020, at 17:28, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, that keystroke unlocks orientation for Brialle Screen Input, so it 
> should fix the problem. Afterward, you may need to recalibrate the dots by 
> entering dots 456 together, then dots 123.
> 
> Best,
> Ana
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> 
>> This is worth a try. I have not experienced the problem, still being on 
>> 12.4.4. In the past, when the dots have become all messed up, I have done a 
>> three-finger swipe down, and it has said unlocked, and the problem is 
>> solved. Hold the phone in landscape, and do the three-finger swipe down, 
>> going from where dot 1 would be, toward dot three. I am curious to know if 
>> this fixes it. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:37 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, that is reassuring! Perhaps a future update may cure the problem. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>>> On 2 Feb 2020, at 15:32, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I'm having this problem as well. It's intermittent for me, so if I 
>>> twist and turn the phone enough, eventually I get it into away mode. I've 
>>> also used it as an opportunity to learn the table top mode, which is a lot 
>>> more doable on my iPhone 11 then it was on the 4S.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/2/20 2:59 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:
>>>> On my iPhone XS I’m trying to use Braille screen input but it seems stuck 
>>>> in tabletop mode and only displays properly if charging port is to the 
>>>> left. There seems no way to recalibrate the layout and no amount of 
>>>> turning the iPhone makes any difference. Is this a bug I should report or 
>>>> am I missing something?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
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Re: Braille screen input in iOS 13.3.1?

2020-02-02 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

Yes, that keystroke unlocks orientation for Brialle Screen Input, so it should 
fix the problem. Afterward, you may need to recalibrate the dots by entering 
dots 456 together, then dots 123.

Best,
Ana




> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> This is worth a try. I have not experienced the problem, still being on 
> 12.4.4. In the past, when the dots have become all messed up, I have done a 
> three-finger swipe down, and it has said unlocked, and the problem is solved. 
> Hold the phone in landscape, and do the three-finger swipe down, going from 
> where dot 1 would be, toward dot three. I am curious to know if this fixes 
> it. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> 
> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:37 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, that is reassuring! Perhaps a future update may cure the problem. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2020, at 15:32, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I'm having this problem as well. It's intermittent for me, so if I 
>> twist and turn the phone enough, eventually I get it into away mode. I've 
>> also used it as an opportunity to learn the table top mode, which is a lot 
>> more doable on my iPhone 11 then it was on the 4S.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/2/20 2:59 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:
>>> On my iPhone XS I’m trying to use Braille screen input but it seems stuck 
>>> in tabletop mode and only displays properly if charging port is to the 
>>> left. There seems no way to recalibrate the layout and no amount of turning 
>>> the iPhone makes any difference. Is this a bug I should report or am I 
>>> missing something?
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
>>> 
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Re: Braille screen input in iOS 13.3.1?

2020-02-02 Thread Arnold Schmidt
This is worth a try. I have not experienced the problem, still being on 12.4.4. 
In the past, when the dots have become all messed up, I have done a 
three-finger swipe down, and it has said unlocked, and the problem is solved. 
Hold the phone in landscape, and do the three-finger swipe down, going from 
where dot 1 would be, toward dot three. I am curious to know if this fixes it. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:37 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Thanks, that is reassuring! Perhaps a future update may cure the problem. 
Harry

> On 2 Feb 2020, at 15:32, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I'm having this problem as well. It's intermittent for me, so if I 
> twist and turn the phone enough, eventually I get it into away mode. I've 
> also used it as an opportunity to learn the table top mode, which is a lot 
> more doable on my iPhone 11 then it was on the 4S.
> 
> 
>> On 2/2/20 2:59 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:
>> On my iPhone XS I’m trying to use Braille screen input but it seems stuck in 
>> tabletop mode and only displays properly if charging port is to the left. 
>> There seems no way to recalibrate the layout and no amount of turning the 
>> iPhone makes any difference. Is this a bug I should report or am I missing 
>> something?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> 
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Re: Braille screen input in iOS 13.3.1?

2020-02-02 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Thanks, that is reassuring! Perhaps a future update may cure the problem. 
Harry

> On 2 Feb 2020, at 15:32, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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> twist and turn the phone enough, eventually I get it into away mode. I've 
> also used it as an opportunity to learn the table top mode, which is a lot 
> more doable on my iPhone 11 then it was on the 4S.
> 
> 
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>> On my iPhone XS I’m trying to use Braille screen input but it seems stuck in 
>> tabletop mode and only displays properly if charging port is to the left. 
>> There seems no way to recalibrate the layout and no amount of turning the 
>> iPhone makes any difference. Is this a bug I should report or am I missing 
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>> Thanks
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Re: Braille screen input in iOS 13.3.1?

2020-02-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yes, I'm having this problem as well. It's intermittent for me, so if I 
twist and turn the phone enough, eventually I get it into away mode. 
I've also used it as an opportunity to learn the table top mode, which 
is a lot more doable on my iPhone 11 then it was on the 4S.



On 2/2/20 2:59 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:

On my iPhone XS I’m trying to use Braille screen input but it seems stuck in 
tabletop mode and only displays properly if charging port is to the left. There 
seems no way to recalibrate the layout and no amount of turning the iPhone 
makes any difference. Is this a bug I should report or am I missing something?
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Braille screen input in iOS 13.3.1?

2020-02-02 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
On my iPhone XS I’m trying to use Braille screen input but it seems stuck in 
tabletop mode and only displays properly if charging port is to the left. There 
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Thanks
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