Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I thought maybe it was my phone. I didn't keep track but yesterday ITunes radio did stop playing for me at some point, it was a few hours but can't remember how many. Don't have this issue with pandora. - Original Message - From: "David Chittenden" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy. The maximum I have had iTunes radio playing is two hours. I have not had any difficulties with it. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 8 Oct 2013, at 0:46, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm using an iPhone 4S as well. I'm not sure I've had it on for more than 45 minutes though. I'll try to pay attention to this today. I definitely don't think this is normal behavior though. I Googled for some similar issues, but I didn't see anything other than just normal buffering issues, which could be happening anywhere from your phone through your router to the music server. On 10/07/2013 06:32 AM, Liz And Sammie wrote: I am using an iPhone 4s. I cleared out the app switcher. I powered the phone down and turn the phone back on. I tried something else. I cleared out the history in iTunes radio, and that seemed to help a bit. However I can only listen to a station for about 45 minutes at a time is this normal? Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I have not been noticing this behavior myself. Has it always happened for you when using iTunes Radio? What phone are you doing this on? Have you tried closing apps in the App Switcher and maybe even powering your phone off and on? On 10/06/2013 10:55 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote: I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my Pandora subscription. Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s
Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
The maximum I have had iTunes radio playing is two hours. I have not had any difficulties with it. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 8 Oct 2013, at 0:46, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I'm using an iPhone 4S as well. I'm not sure I've had it on for more than 45 > minutes though. I'll try to pay attention to this today. > > I definitely don't think this is normal behavior though. I Googled for some > similar issues, but I didn't see anything other than just normal buffering > issues, which could be happening anywhere from your phone through your router > to the music server. > >> On 10/07/2013 06:32 AM, Liz And Sammie wrote: >> I am using an iPhone 4s. I cleared out the app switcher. I powered the phone >> down and turn the phone back on. I tried something else. I cleared out the >> history in iTunes radio, and that seemed to help a bit. However I can only >> listen to a station for about 45 minutes at a time is this normal? >> >> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie >> >> >> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator >> >> http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 >> Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone >> >>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >>> >>> I have not been noticing this behavior myself. Has it always happened for >>> you when using iTunes Radio? What phone are you doing this on? Have you >>> tried closing apps in the App Switcher and maybe even powering your phone >>> off and on? >>> On 10/06/2013 10:55 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote: I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my Pandora subscription. Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
Liz, I'm not experiencing anything like that. Have you tried resetting your phone. Hold down the power button and the home button for 10 seconds. It will come back up talking. --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Liz and Sammie" To: Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:55 PM Subject: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy. I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my Pandora subscription. Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
Hi, there is a time limit, yes. From what I read, it's two hours if you do not touch your device. also, give iTunes radio a chance. It's in its infancy, it will get better. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:08 AM, "Dawn Petty" wrote: > > yes, especially from the pc. > > > -Original Message- From: Liz and Sammie > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy. > > I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a > whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station > list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have > been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone > experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my > Pandora subscription. > > Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie > > Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator > > HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
yes, especially from the pc. -Original Message- From: Liz and Sammie Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy. I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my Pandora subscription. Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
I'm using an iPhone 4S as well. I'm not sure I've had it on for more than 45 minutes though. I'll try to pay attention to this today. I definitely don't think this is normal behavior though. I Googled for some similar issues, but I didn't see anything other than just normal buffering issues, which could be happening anywhere from your phone through your router to the music server. On 10/07/2013 06:32 AM, Liz And Sammie wrote: I am using an iPhone 4s. I cleared out the app switcher. I powered the phone down and turn the phone back on. I tried something else. I cleared out the history in iTunes radio, and that seemed to help a bit. However I can only listen to a station for about 45 minutes at a time is this normal? Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I have not been noticing this behavior myself. Has it always happened for you when using iTunes Radio? What phone are you doing this on? Have you tried closing apps in the App Switcher and maybe even powering your phone off and on? On 10/06/2013 10:55 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote: I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my Pandora subscription. Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
I am using an iPhone 4s. I cleared out the app switcher. I powered the phone down and turn the phone back on. I tried something else. I cleared out the history in iTunes radio, and that seemed to help a bit. However I can only listen to a station for about 45 minutes at a time is this normal? Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1 Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone > On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I have not been noticing this behavior myself. Has it always happened for you > when using iTunes Radio? What phone are you doing this on? Have you tried > closing apps in the App Switcher and maybe even powering your phone off and > on? > >> On 10/06/2013 10:55 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote: >> I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a >> whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station >> list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have >> been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone >> experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my >> Pandora subscription. >> >> Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie >> >> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator >> >> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.
I have not been noticing this behavior myself. Has it always happened for you when using iTunes Radio? What phone are you doing this on? Have you tried closing apps in the App Switcher and maybe even powering your phone off and on? On 10/06/2013 10:55 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote: I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station list. Has anyone been experiencing this. Also, my stations at best have been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing. Has anyone experienced this issue as well? If this keeps up, I am going to renew my Pandora subscription. Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1 -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.