RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... ( U pdate)
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Hi Again,
> Check that the system keyboard layout does not differ from the one you are
> setting when trying to log in to the system - if they differ for some
> reason then the VNC Server will translate incoming keys to local key
> events using the system-wide mapping and the logon app will then
> retranslate them to the wrong thing, in this case screwing up the "#" key
> ("Hash", not UK pound, which is "#" :) )
This was indeed the problem.
I think for some reason Windows had changed back to using all US keymaps and
language settings, so obviously the keymaps between the VNC client and
viewer were different.
At first when I changed the server keymap I was convinced that the problem
hadn't gone away - but I realised I had actually set the password with the
US keymap, so the password wasn't what I was typing!
Its working now anyway, thanks for the help.
Andrew McCall
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RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... ( U pdate)
Thanks Wez I can handle the explanation as I am well into ascii character
code being a QBASIC programmer. Your probably correct in saying some
applications may reduce 8big to 7big notation and thus lose the significance
of the character code.
Regards,
John
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From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 09:39
To: 'Wall, John'; 'Andrew McCall'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... (U
pdate)
John,
No, the keys do give different character codes, otherwise the characters
produced wouldn't match the symbols, since UK keyboards have both hash and
pound symbols on them. What you saw in my mail is basically, a 7-bit ASCII
vs 8-bit ISO-8859-1 thing, I think. The pound sign is character 163 in
ISO-8859-1 while the hash is ASCII code 35 - ASCII mailers will probably
fudge one into the other to allow it to be displayed.
Cheers,
Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> I am sure you understand the country of origin's keyboard may
> display a different symbol however the ASCII key code would
> be equivalent.
> > retranslate them to the wrong thing, in this case screwing
> up the "#"
> > key ("Hash", not UK pound, which is "#" :) )
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RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... (U pdate)
John,
No, the keys do give different character codes, otherwise the characters
produced wouldn't match the symbols, since UK keyboards have both hash and
pound symbols on them. What you saw in my mail is basically, a 7-bit ASCII
vs 8-bit ISO-8859-1 thing, I think. The pound sign is character 163 in
ISO-8859-1 while the hash is ASCII code 35 - ASCII mailers will probably
fudge one into the other to allow it to be displayed.
Cheers,
Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> I am sure you understand the country of origin's keyboard may
> display a different symbol however the ASCII key code would
> be equivalent.
> > retranslate them to the wrong thing, in this case screwing
> up the "#"
> > key ("Hash", not UK pound, which is "#" :) )
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RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... ( U pdate)
Hi All,
My use of VNC V4 under Windows environment sometimes encounters a similar
situation re case of entering data from VNC Viewer to Server.
I have found in most instances the Server keyboard may inadvertantly be in
Caps mode and the Viewer is in unshifted mode.
There is little way of knowing if this is the case and all I do is put my
caps key on the Viewer to get round logging onto distant Server.
Just a piece of information.
Wez in both your examples below the Hash key was displayed.
I am sure you understand the country of origin's keyboard may display a
different symbol however the ASCII key code would be equivalent.
John
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> From: James Weatherall[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 12:52 AM
> To: 'Andrew McCall'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows
> server... (U pdate)
>
> Andrew,
>
> Check that the system keyboard layout does not differ from the one you are
> setting when trying to log in to the system - if they differ for some
> reason
> then the VNC Server will translate incoming keys to local key events using
> the system-wide mapping and the logon app will then retranslate them to
> the
> wrong thing, in this case screwing up the "#" key ("Hash", not UK pound,
> which is "#" :) )
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McCall
> > Sent: 18 November 2004 15:10
> > To: Andrew McCall; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows
> > server... (U pdate)
> >
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> > Hi Again,
> >
> > > I have started to have a problem with VNC where I can make a
> > > connection to a Windows 2003 server via VNC and see the standard
> > > Windows 2003 log in screen, but I can't actually try to log
> > in I get a
> > > standard Windows error "The system could not log you on. Make sure
> > > your User name and domain are correct, then type your
> > password again.
> > > Letters in passwords must be typed using the correct case."
> > >
> > > If I actually go to the console and use the same password,
> > it lets me
> > > log in, and then I can go back to my VNC session (that has
> > watched me
> > > actually log in!) and carry on...
> > >
> > > I have tried uninstalling VNC and re-installing it, but
> > this didn't help.
> >
> > I have managed to work out that the # (UK pound) sign isn't
> > working over VNC for some reason - every other key works, but
> > this one!
> >
> > I don't know how to solve it, but I suppose I am one step closer!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andrew McCall
> > **
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RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... (U pdate)
Andrew,
Check that the system keyboard layout does not differ from the one you are
setting when trying to log in to the system - if they differ for some reason
then the VNC Server will translate incoming keys to local key events using
the system-wide mapping and the logon app will then retranslate them to the
wrong thing, in this case screwing up the "#" key ("Hash", not UK pound,
which is "#" :) )
Cheers,
Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McCall
> Sent: 18 November 2004 15:10
> To: Andrew McCall; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows
> server... (U pdate)
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> Hi Again,
>
> > I have started to have a problem with VNC where I can make a
> > connection to a Windows 2003 server via VNC and see the standard
> > Windows 2003 log in screen, but I can't actually try to log
> in I get a
> > standard Windows error "The system could not log you on. Make sure
> > your User name and domain are correct, then type your
> password again.
> > Letters in passwords must be typed using the correct case."
> >
> > If I actually go to the console and use the same password,
> it lets me
> > log in, and then I can go back to my VNC session (that has
> watched me
> > actually log in!) and carry on...
> >
> > I have tried uninstalling VNC and re-installing it, but
> this didn't help.
>
> I have managed to work out that the # (UK pound) sign isn't
> working over VNC for some reason - every other key works, but
> this one!
>
> I don't know how to solve it, but I suppose I am one step closer!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew McCall
> **
> Get our Metrolink back on track!!!
> Write to your MP in support of the campaign - tell them how
> failing to get the Metrolink extension will affect your life,
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> on the website of the Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive
> (GMPTE) at http://www.gmpte.com
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RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... (U pdate)
** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error you must delete it and notify the system manager (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). ** Hi Again, > I have started to have a problem with VNC where I can make a > connection to a Windows 2003 server via VNC and see the standard > Windows 2003 log in screen, but I can't actually try to log in I get a > standard Windows error "The system could not log you on. Make sure > your User name and domain are correct, then type your password again. > Letters in passwords must be typed using the correct case." > > If I actually go to the console and use the same password, it lets me > log in, and then I can go back to my VNC session (that has watched me > actually log in!) and carry on... > > I have tried uninstalling VNC and re-installing it, but this didn't help. I have managed to work out that the # (UK pound) sign isn't working over VNC for some reason - every other key works, but this one! I don't know how to solve it, but I suppose I am one step closer! Thanks, Andrew McCall ** Get our Metrolink back on track!!! Write to your MP in support of the campaign - tell them how failing to get the Metrolink extension will affect your life, your business or the economy. You can also pledge your support by filling in an online form on the website of the Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive (GMPTE) at http://www.gmpte.com ** ** This note confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses, however we advise that in keeping with good IT practice the recipient should ensure that the e-mail together with any attachments are virus free by running a virus scan themselves. We cannot accept any responsibility for any damage or loss caused by software viruses. http://www.oldham.gov.uk ** ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
