[Vo]:Re: People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always lying when they say things that are obviously false
Jed, what is your academic background? From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:44 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always lying when they say things that are obviously false I wrote: If Jobs seriously believes that without him there would be no proportional fonts in modern computers, he is delusional. . . . to call it a lie is an overstatement, because even Jobs knows this isn't true, and he must know he is not fooling anyone. I mean he is not fooling anyone who knows the history of computers. Jobs got the idea for the Mac when he saw a Xerox Parc computer. The Parc had proportional fonts, and many other innovations that Jobs later took credit for. Modesty is not his strong suit. On the other hand, Xerox never even tried to sell the Parc, whereas Jobs went through hell getting the Lisa and then the Mac to market. That's genius enough. I don't begrudge him his fame or money. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Re: People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always lying when they say things that are obviously false
Mattia Rizzi wrote: Jed, what is your academic background? Japanese language and literature. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Re: People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always lying when they say things that are obviously false
Dear Jed, As a professional scientist I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for you continued efforts to present a balanced perspective on cold fusion. Since the January announcement at the University of Bologna sparked my interest in the topic, your library of CF literature has been an extremely useful resource for me. I value your point of view and in my estimation you have the mind of a true scientist regardless of your formal training. I am almost positive that there are thousands of interested professionals following this issue who would echo my opinion if not for the stigma associated with the subject under discussion. Thanks again for your efforts. Mattia Rizzi wrote: Jed, what is your academic background? Japanese language and literature. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Re: People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always lying when they say things that are obviously false
On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Finlay MacNab wrote: Dear Jed, As a professional scientist I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for you continued efforts to present a balanced perspective on cold fusion. Since the January announcement at the University of Bologna sparked my interest in the topic, your library of CF literature has been an extremely useful resource for me. I value your point of view and in my estimation you have the mind of a true scientist regardless of your formal training. I am almost positive that there are thousands of interested professionals following this issue who would echo my opinion if not for the stigma associated with the subject under discussion. Thanks again for your efforts. I agree with this in many regards. Jed has a robust knowledge of logic and the history and philosophy of science. Jed has made many contributions to the LENR field, including his book: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf his editing and archiving the papers in lenr-canr.org, and translation, editing and contributions to books and papers by Mizuno and various other scientists. Jed is a great advocate for the LENR field and goodness knows the field is in need of advocacy. Like any good advocate though, his approach in various debates has not been what would normally be called balanced. I think that is all well and good, and it is important to have energetic dialog on the important issues. All of us who have personally invested much in the field owe Jed much thanks for the decades of continuous good work and advocacy. Thanks Jed! Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Re: People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always lying when they say things that are obviously false
Finlay MacNab wrote: Since the January announcement at the University of Bologna sparked my interest in the topic, your library of CF literature has been an extremely useful resource for me. I value your point of view and in my estimation you have the mind of a true scientist regardless of your formal training. I appreciate the comment. However I did not write all those papers. I did edit a bunch of them. While doing so I learned that many distinguished professors cannot spell, and most of them are very late handing in assignments. Like a year late, in some cases. I wish I had known that when I was a student. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Re: People such as Edison, Jobs, Whitman and Rossi are not always lying when they say things that are obviously false
I meant to say: I did not write all those papers, so the real credit goes to the authors. The researchers have done a terrific job with practically no resources. With funding the size of sparrow's tears, as they say in Japanese. People often say there has been no progress in cold fusion. I say that if you knew how difficult it was, and how much work is represented in each paper, you would be amazed at how much progress has been made. - Jed
