Re: [Vo]:Fukushima pool #4 presents a potential nightmare
At 10:19 PM 4/6/2012, Mark Goldes wrote: Former UN advisor: If No. 4 pool collapses Ive been told during 50 years, you cannot contain Nuclear Expert: Fukushima spent fuel has 85 times more cesium than released at Chernobyl It would destroy the world environment and our civilization http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html Japanese TV program (It says to Turn on English CC) and transcript Fukushima Dai-Ichi No. 4: An earthquake before spent fuel rods are moved to safe storage would be the end http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/04/fukushima-dai-ichi-no-4-an-earthquake-before-spent-fuel-rods-are-moved-to-safe-storage-would-be-the-end.html http://www.youtube.com/v/eJi-o4F8eOo?version=3hl=en_US The reporter is Mr. Toru TAMAKAWA. The expert is Dr. Hiroaki KOIDE, Research Associate at the Research Reactor Institute of Kyoto University. eg ... I asked him Why cant we simply transfer them to another pool? Now, lets look at how the transfer is normally done. [3:20] As shown here, nuclear fuel rods are initially in the reactor. When they are spent, they are transferred to the spent fuel pool here.[3:28] What they do first is lower this giant container into the water. [3:34] Then the fuel rods are transferred into this container in the water. All of them. [3:42] Then they close the lid with water inside, and hoist the container outside. [3:48] But now, because of the earthquake, the crane to hoist them is not working any more. [3:53] Then, how are they going to transfer the fuel rods? ...
Re: [Vo]:Fukushima pool #4 presents a potential nightmare
Alan J Fletcher wrote: The reporter is Mr. Toru TAMAKAWA. The expert is Dr. Hiroaki KOIDE, Research Associate at the Research Reactor Institute of Kyoto University. Koide is a long-standing outspoken opponent of nuclear power. People paid no attention to him before the accident. I saw one of his lectures on YouTube during the crisis. He seemed to have an impressive grasp of the situation and he was eloquent. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Fukushima pool #4 presents a potential nightmare
Arnie Gunderson, an expert on these matters, suggests smaller cranes be used to lower the fuel rods to the ground on an urgent basis. Senator Wyden has urged our government to push hard for the Japanese to greatly accelerate the present, totally inadequate, effort. I've provided some additional information on the non-profit Aesop Institute website. Mark Mark Goldes Co-founder, Chava Energy CEO, Aesop Institute 301A North Main Street Sebastopol, CA 95472 www.chavaenergy.com www.aesopinstitute.org 707 861-9070 707 497-3551 fax From: Alan J Fletcher [a...@well.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fukushima pool #4 presents a potential nightmare At 10:19 PM 4/6/2012, Mark Goldes wrote: Former UN advisor: If No. 4 pool collapses I’ve been told “during 50 years, you cannot contain” Nuclear Expert: Fukushima spent fuel has 85 times more cesium than released at Chernobyl — “It would destroy the world environment and our civilization… http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html Japanese TV program (It says to Turn on English CC) and transcript Fukushima Dai-Ichi No. 4: An earthquake before spent fuel rods are moved to safe storage would be “the end” http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/04/fukushima-dai-ichi-no-4-an-earthquake-before-spent-fuel-rods-are-moved-to-safe-storage-would-be-the-end.html http://www.youtube.com/v/eJi-o4F8eOo?version=3hl=en_US The reporter is Mr. Toru TAMAKAWA. The expert is Dr. Hiroaki KOIDE, Research Associate at the Research Reactor Institute of Kyoto University. eg ... I asked him “Why can’t we simply transfer them to another pool?” Now, let’s look at how the transfer is normally done. [3:20] As shown here, nuclear fuel rods are initially in the reactor. When they are spent, they are transferred to the spent fuel pool here.[3:28] What they do first is lower this giant container into the water. [3:34] Then the fuel rods are transferred into this container in the water. All of them. [3:42] Then they close the lid with water inside, and hoist the container outside. [3:48] But now, because of the earthquake, the crane to hoist them is not working any more. [3:53] Then, how are they going to transfer the fuel rods? ...
Re: [Vo]:Fukushima pool #4 presents a potential nightmare
Looking at the news commentary and Sunday Morning talk shows in Japan, it is stunning how sharply public opinion has turned against nuclear power. The government is struggling to persuade local politicians and community groups to allow some of the ~50 shuttered reactors to reopen. Small town mayors have been given a veto over national energy policy. They are being treated like royalty in the national media and by the government. Power concentrated in the hands of low-level leaders is not unusual in Japanese politics and history. It is often said that the 1930s war in China was instigated by low-level firebrand officers. Adm. Yamamoto was effectively in charge of naval operations in 1941 and '42. Even after the defeat at Midway, which was entirely his fault, he could overrule over his nominal superiors in the General Staff in Tokyo by threatening to resign. People often say that Japanese politics and public opinion are stuck in a rut and unchanging. Because, for example, the LDP was in charge for decades, and recent PMs seem hapless. That isn't true. They can change overnight when the need arises. That should be clear from Japanese modern history, which includes sweeping changes during Meiji and again after WWII. See Cohen, Remaking Japan. This tells me that if cold fusion emerges and it becomes generally known that it is real, there is likely to be strong support for it in Japan. The Japanese population is well educated. I am confident that many people there will understand the technical issues and the advantages of cold fusion. Their reputation for being well educated is somewhat exaggerated in my experience, based on the mass media and the many stupid comments in blogs devoted to cold fusion. People everywhere tend to be incurious, and to know only what they need to know. Education in Japan is rigorous but not all that advanced or challenging. In my opinion, it emphasizes memorization too much, and things like writing a coherent essay not enough. Many students at elite Japanese universities take a 4-year vacation, whereas they bust their butts at good U.S. universities, so the two groups come out about the same. Still, I expect a larger percent of the people there will understand the advantages of cold fusion than in the U.S. I expect less opposition. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Fukushima pool #4 presents a potential nightmare
someone make an article to debunk some exagerations http://djysrv.blogspot.fr/2012/04/argh-debunking-some-nuclear-nonsense.html 2012/4/23 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com At 10:19 PM 4/6/2012, Mark Goldes wrote: Former UN advisor: If No. 4 pool collapses I’ve been told “during 50 years, you cannot contain” Nuclear Expert: Fukushima spent fuel has 85 times more cesium than released at Chernobyl — “It would destroy the world environment and our civilization… http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/**04/682.htmlhttp://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html Japanese TV program (It says to Turn on English CC) and transcript Fukushima Dai-Ichi No. 4: An earthquake before spent fuel rods are moved to safe storage would be “the end” http://www.nakedcapitalism.**com/2012/04/fukushima-dai-** ichi-no-4-an-earthquake-**before-spent-fuel-rods-are-** moved-to-safe-storage-would-**be-the-end.htmlhttp://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/04/fukushima-dai-ichi-no-4-an-earthquake-before-spent-fuel-rods-are-moved-to-safe-storage-would-be-the-end.html http://www.youtube.com/v/eJi-**o4F8eOo?version=3hl=en_UShttp://www.youtube.com/v/eJi-o4F8eOo?version=3hl=en_US The reporter is Mr. Toru TAMAKAWA. The expert is Dr. Hiroaki KOIDE, Research Associate at the Research Reactor Institute of Kyoto University. eg ... I asked him “Why can’t we simply transfer them to another pool?” Now, let’s look at how the transfer is normally done. [3:20] As shown here, nuclear fuel rods are initially in the reactor. When they are spent, they are transferred to the spent fuel pool here.[3:28] What they do first is lower this giant container into the water. [3:34] Then the fuel rods are transferred into this container in the water. All of them. [3:42] Then they close the lid with water inside, and hoist the container outside. [3:48] But now, because of the earthquake, the crane to hoist them is not working any more. [3:53] Then, how are they going to transfer the fuel rods? ...