Re: [vox-tech] How to Generate Colorized Table Slides for Presentation?
On Sun 07 Mar 04, 4:06 AM, Mike Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 10:28:26PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Sun 07 Mar 04, 12:44 AM, Mike Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://simons-clan.com/~msimons/tt/ (ps: if using the dvi you'll need to say xdvi -paper usr s.dvi) At the end of the first page you will see the \hline from the second table... I would like that to not appear on the first page. At the end of the second page it chops a table in half (which I'd like to avoid)... I've tried putting optional \pagebreak[3] but they are ignored... I've also tried non-splitting row completes \\*, which don't seem to help... I also tried adding comments to the end of every line (for some reason I remember that as some gotcha from long time ago). If anyone has ideas how to fix, hints would be wonderful... i thought bill had this problem awhile ago. our archives stink, so you might just want to ask him. Well I don't know about our archives stinking... grepmail on my 30 meg vox-tech archive takes a few seconds. well, i guess our archive are awesome. the search utility is *useless*. it doesn't even always print mail correctly. don't GET me started... grepmail sounds interesting. from its name, i assume it knows mbox and can print out entire messages based on grep patterns. does it thread? I think I've come to the conclusion that I'll tell latex to put a .5 inch boarder around the page, pick a readable font size, figure out how many lines fit in a given page, and have my perl stuff spit out long tables of the correct length for a page... using pagebreak when needed. sure. if you feel up to it, it might be nice to post a summary of your task at hand and solution. prolly a lot of writing, but i'd sure be interested in reading it. Also from reading over the archives, it seems to me that tex/latex is very stagnate. latex2e was released sometime in 1994 and version 3 project which started then... doesn't really have anything released. Sigh... true. the dev team is a little secretive. but here's what we can expect from latex 3: http://www.latex-project.org/guides/ltx3info/node4.html pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How to Generate Colorized Table Slides for Presentation?
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 10:28:26PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: i thought bill had this problem awhile ago. our archives stink, so you might just want to ask him. Nooo!! I refuse to try to remember ANYTHING about that time of my life. I'm a video game programmer now. The worst I need to deal with is the occasional cellphone crash. ;^) -bill! understands, and fears, the power of [La]TeX ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How to Generate Colorized Table Slides for Presentation?
do you know latex? i produce nice slides with latex, and you can do it in color. it has no import routine, but vim and perl is usually all i need. pete On Thu 04 Mar 04, 1:46 PM, Mike Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to: generate good looking Tables, from a Text file source, which allows easy Colorization of rows, columns, or single elements that outputs a common image format (PNG) or PDF. For example pretend I have a bunch of tables that look like this: Run |Before |After| ID | Megs Time | Megs Time | = 123 | 4.56 63.20 | 0.52 12.45 | 124 | 4.23 62.10 | 0.53 12.70 | 125 | 4.34 66.40 | 0.51 12.80 | Portions of these tables need to be highlighted in different ways with legends added (to describe what each thing means)... to put on a webpage or in a slide show. I can handle converting the tables to Foo delimited elements, but I'm not able to re-enter all of this junk into some program that can't import text. I would also like to waste as little time as possible for a colorize this column operation. Any suggestions? I've looked into magic point, which appears to be able to embed the some image, but appears to have no support for tables natively. kpresenter and openoffice are on the list to try... -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How to Generate Colorized Table Slides for Presentation?
OpenOffice Presentation can embed OpenOffice Spreadsheet, which can colorize tables. Just tried it. Works like a charm. BTW, when I did the Autoconf/Automake talk, I got the colorized C sourcecode by (1)creating colorized HTML C sourcecode via gvim (Syntax - Convert to HTML), (2)saving the file, (3)opening it in Mozilla, and (4) embedding OpenOffice Text documents into presentation, and copying pasting the mozilla text into it and formatting its size and font. -Mark On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Mike Simons wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to: generate good looking Tables, from a Text file source, which allows easy Colorization of rows, columns, or single elements that outputs a common image format (PNG) or PDF. For example pretend I have a bunch of tables that look like this: Run |Before |After| ID | Megs Time | Megs Time | = 123 | 4.56 63.20 | 0.52 12.45 | 124 | 4.23 62.10 | 0.53 12.70 | 125 | 4.34 66.40 | 0.51 12.80 | Portions of these tables need to be highlighted in different ways with legends added (to describe what each thing means)... to put on a webpage or in a slide show. I can handle converting the tables to Foo delimited elements, but I'm not able to re-enter all of this junk into some program that can't import text. I would also like to waste as little time as possible for a colorize this column operation. Any suggestions? I've looked into magic point, which appears to be able to embed the some image, but appears to have no support for tables natively. kpresenter and openoffice are on the list to try... ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Mark K. Kim AIM: markus kimius Homepage: http://www.cbreak.org/ Xanga: http://www.xanga.com/vindaci Friendster: http://www.friendster.com/user.jsp?id=13046 PGP key fingerprint: 7324 BACA 53AD E504 A76E 5167 6822 94F0 F298 5DCE PGP key available on the homepage ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How to Generate Colorized Table Slides for Presentation?
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:46:13AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 04 Mar 04, 1:46 PM, Mike Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm looking for a way to: generate good looking Tables, from a Text file source, which allows easy Colorization of rows, columns, or single elements that outputs a common image format (PNG) or PDF. do you know latex? i produce nice slides with latex, and you can do it in color. I don't know it and never did. Learned, used, and forgot _bits_ of latex a few times already. So it shouldn't be impossible to pickup before Monday. it has no import routine, but vim and perl is usually all i need. I'm beginning to understand that it would be best to pickup enough latex to generate the tables I'm after. There are some excellent intro documents on latex at: http://www.tug.org/tutorials/tugindia/ So my mystery is how to align of columns based on decimal point... without lame tricks like [r.l] ... 123 12 to create 123.12 (create two columns one right justified, a '.', and one left justified) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How to Generate Colorized Table Slides for Presentation?
On Thu 04 Mar 04, 3:10 PM, Mike Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:46:13AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 04 Mar 04, 1:46 PM, Mike Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm looking for a way to: generate good looking Tables, from a Text file source, which allows easy Colorization of rows, columns, or single elements that outputs a common image format (PNG) or PDF. do you know latex? i produce nice slides with latex, and you can do it in color. I don't know it and never did. Learned, used, and forgot _bits_ of latex a few times already. So it shouldn't be impossible to pickup before Monday. it has no import routine, but vim and perl is usually all i need. I'm beginning to understand that it would be best to pickup enough latex to generate the tables I'm after. There are some excellent intro documents on latex at: http://www.tug.org/tutorials/tugindia/ So my mystery is how to align of columns based on decimal point... without lame tricks like [r.l] ... 123 12 to create 123.12 (create two columns one right justified, a '.', and one left justified) yeah -- for people who are really proficient at a powerful text editor like vim and scripting languages, we can do stuff like this faster with latex than anyone else with a GUI system. plus, latex *always* looks better than any GUI thing i've ever seen. if you want to really learn latex, i recommend you read leslie lamport's book. it's cheap, short, and fast reading. then get the latex companion for a reference. it's the ultimate reference book, and is much higher level. not meant to be read. meant to be used to look up stuff. as for lining up the numbers, is this what you want? http://www.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8th=5e2810689992edc9seekm=CARLISLE.93Aug27112101%40r8d.cs.man.ac.ukframe=off comp.text.tex is one of the single BEST newsgroups i've ever seen. it's quite amazing. the poster child for usenet. and has a nearly 0 noise to signal ratio... pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How to Generate Colorized Table Slides for Presentation?
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:46:57PM -0500, Mike Simons wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to: generate good looking Tables, from a Text file source, which allows easy Colorization of rows, columns, or single elements that outputs a common image format (PNG) or PDF. One idea is to use plain HTML tables with 'bgcolor' tags for certain rows and/or columns. For example: table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding-1 tr bgcolor=#DD !-- grey row -- th rowspan=2Run ID/th th colspan=2Before/th !-- cells spanning two columns ... -- th colspan=2After/th /tr tr bgcolor=#DD thMegs/th thTime/th thMegs/th thTime/th /tr and then your rows of data: tr td123/td td4.56/td td63.20/td td0.52/td td bgcolor=#FF12.45/td !-- highlight in obnoxious red -- /tr ...etc. I agree, though, that LaTeX is probably the way to go. But HTML might work in a pinch... -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
