Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
Kabar terakhir.. Polisi sudah mencium motif pengeboman kemarin.. Konon menurut sumber intelejen, Nurdin MohTob.. setelah lama tidak ngebom.. sekarang berambisi menjadi ketua PSSI menggantikan Nurdin Halid.. Jadi dia membuat agar karir Nurdin Halid di PSSI hancur karena tidak berhasil menghadirka MU di Indonesia.. :D On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Ari Condro wrote: > untuk melindungi diri dari gendam, ada baiknya belajar mensinkronisasi > pikiran liwat yoga supaya tidak mudah dirasuki bisikan jahat, yah oom > ? > > * jadi masalah ketika Yoga sudah difatwa haram oleh MUI * > > 2009/7/20 ariel : > > > > > > sedikit tambahan : > > > > jika pun benar ini bom bunuh diri, polisi semestinya menyelidiki > kemungkinan > > pelakunya dalam pengaruh hipnotis seperti pada acara Romy Rafael, > atau > > kemungkinan pelakunya tidak tahu apa-apa, hanya disuruh membawa > tas ke dalam > > dan diledakkan melalui remote kontrol jarak jauh. > > > > salam, > > -ariel- > > > > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, izzuddin al qassam > > wrote: > >> > >> hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja > >> BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan > bom bunuh > >> diri) > >> kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan > masyarakat dunia > >> tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. > >> I dont know its true or not. > >> Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat > yang > >> sama apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat > >> kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri > >> > >> seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa > saja di > >> dekatnya > >> jelas kasus ini politis banget. > >> ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put > fikir ada > >> benarnya > >> isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal > ditanggapi > >> serius... > >> > >> yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri > >> jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap > >> teroris selama ini > >> > >> :putri > >> > > > > > > -- > salam, > Ari > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Re: Jilbab dan pengalaman pribadi -
"akan tetapi tiu tidak cukup bila sikap dan perilaku tidak juga dirubah.ibadah bukan hanya lahir tapi juga batinpun harus diikutkan" Jadi di sini Pak Dendi berbeda dengan Pak Saeful yang bilang: "ketika jilbab di jadikan penilaian ketaqwaan itu salah" Irisannya, 'cukup atau tidak' berhubungan dengan penilaian. Menurut Pak Saeful menilai cukup atau nggak itu salah, karena jilbab adalah peningkatan ketaqwaan, nggak bisa dijadikan penilaian ketaqwaan. Lalu apa yang Pak Dendi maksud?: "Tapi yach secara fisik wanita berjilbab cukup baik bila dibanding dengan yang tidak. akan tetapi tiu tidak cukup bila sikap dan perilaku tidak juga dirubah.ibadah bukan hanya lahir tapi juga batinpun harus diikutkan" Perempuan jilbab secara (ibadah) fisik lebih baik daripada yang nggak berjilbab? Dan ibadah itupun nggak cukup, tapi yang lain2 juga mesti berubah juga? Yang nggak berjilbab kurang baiknya, lalu ibadah lainnya nggak cukup baik dibandingkan dengan ibadah yang berjilbab? Mungkin ini yang namanya blunder? Fallacy of thinking? salam Mia > assalamu alaikum > ikutan ahhh > > meskipun jilbab secara bahasa adalah pakaian luar, tetapi > bagi umat islam (di indonesia khususnya) jilbab telah di artikan sebagai kerudung bagi wanita muslim, > > ketika jilbab beralih menjadi bahan peningkatan ketaqwaan, itu benar > tapi, ketika jilbab di jadikan penilaian ketaqwaan itu salah, > seorang muslimah yang taat , sudah mengerti tentang fungsi dan kewajiban menutup aurat > sebelum menggunakannya, > > bukan meminta tuntutan hasil dari memakai jilbab, > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Dendikeren amat wrote: > > Assalamu'alaikum, > Ketaatan itu dasarnya dari hati, jadi tidak lantas wanita pake jilbab lantas > perilakunya jadi baik. jadi ciri wanita solehah,dll. ga menjadi tolok ukur > sebagai wanita muslim yang taat biarawati juga menutup aurat, bahkan sekarang > ini jilbab lebih menjadi trends.modis,bisnis. > Tapi yach secara fisik wanita berjilbab cukup baik bila dibanding dengan yang > tidak. akan tetapi tiu tidak cukup bila sikap dan perilaku tidak juga > dirubah.ibadah bukan hanya lahir tapi juga batinpun harus diikutkan. > > Salam manis, > > --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Mia wrote: > > From: Mia > Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Jilbab dan pengalaman pribadi - > To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 3:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pak Saeful, > > Aku langsung mau setuju saja tadinya blas, tapi ada yang ngeganjal, aku juga > nggak tau sortingnya gimana. > > > > Bapak bilang "seorang muslimah yang taat sudah mengerti tentang fungsi dan > kewajiban menutup aurat" dan "ketika jilbab beralih menjadi peningkatan > ketaqwaan, itu benar" > > > > Rancu nih. Kalau jilbab itu adalah peningkatan ketaqwaan karena muslimah taat > tahu kewajibannya menutup aurat..., lalu apanya yang salah kalau kita pingin > melihat indikator hasil dari "peningkatan ketaqwaan dari muslimah taat" itu? > > > > Ini mungkin sebabnya mba Mei yang bilang bahwa jilbab itu ukuran ketaatan, > jadinya blio terkaget2 melihat temennya yang jilbabers begini-begitu > melanggar moral dan kepantasan itu sendiri. > > > > Integrity at stake? > > > > Arcon bilang, dirinya merasa berat dengan atribut2 ketaqwaan itu, jadinya dia > malah merasa jauh dari khusu. Khusu ato nggak, aku lagi ngebayangin Arcon > berjenggot, bercingkrang. ..:-) > > > > salam > > Mia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give Back > Yahoo! for Good > Get inspired > by a good cause. > > > Y! Toolbar > Get it Free! > easy 1-click access > to your groups. > > > Yahoo! Groups > Start a group > in 3 easy steps. > Connect with others. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[wanita-muslimah] mengenai janoko ndlongob (Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?)
Weladalah, Pak Wijan-noko, kalo mengalami kendlongoban kayaknya ya memang susah obatnya Pak. Maap pak, saya ndak bisa menolong, semoga lekas sembuh aja yah! --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, jano ko wrote: > > kok ndak protes sama istilah red devils/setan merah? Emang emyu = tidak ada > yg jujur dan santun? Kok ndak konsisten yah protesnya? > > --- > > Janoko : > > Mulut janoko makin besar ndlongobnya dan kepala janoko makin mengeras. > > Salam bingun. > > -o0o- > > --- On Sun, 19/7/09, ritajkt wrote: > > > From: ritajkt > Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta? > To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 8:59 AM > > > > > > > kok ndak protes sama istilah red devils/setan merah? Emang emyu = tidak ada > yg jujur dan santun? Kok ndak konsisten yah protesnya? > > --- In wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com, jano ko wrote: > > > > Ada berita : > > > > btw, biar lebih jelas, yg gw maksud setan kuning = orba jilid satu, > > setan biru = orba jilid sekarang, setan ijo = nurdin tob dan > > jaringannya. > > > > > > --- > > > > Janoko : > > > > Hm...engga habis pikir, didalam Orba itu juga banyak orang Islamnya yang > > jujur dan santun, koq bisa ya seseorang manusia yang mengaku Islam > > mengatakan saudaranya s..t n. > > Kasihan sekali. > > > > Janoko. > > > > Note : > > Janoko masih ndlongob ( mulut terbuka lebar ) membaca tulisan tersebut. > > > > -o0o- > > > > --- On Sat, 18/7/09, ritajkt wrote: > > > > From: ritajkt > > Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta? > > To: wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 12:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iya mbak, itu posting kemarin yg gw komentarin, mohon maaf for the (black) > > humor in this grieving period... > > > > > > > > btw, biar lebih jelas, yg gw maksud setan kuning = orba jilid satu, setan > > biru = orba jilid sekarang, setan ijo = nurdin tob dan jaringannya. > > > > > > > > ikut belasungkawa, > > > > rita > > > > > > > > --- In wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com, "Mia" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bom bunuh diri itu sudah confirm, kan? Artinya motifnya kekerasan atas > > > nama agama. > > > > > > > > > > Pak DWS bukannya bilang nggak make sense bom bunuh diri itu karena > > > politik pilpres, atau yang lain bilang kasus freeport. Saya menambahkan > > > kalau bunuh diri itu sudah confirm, motif lain gugur. > > > > > > > > > > Psikologisnya adalah, dalam human tragedy reaksi kita bisa macem2, justru > > > karena pelakunya kita sendiri terhadap sesama, kita jatuh pada black > > > humor. Saya kaget juga denger pidatonya pak SBY, tapi yah he is entitled > > > to his own opinion, (yang sekaligus menunjukkan kualitasnya ternyata > > > sampe di situ saja). > > > > > > > > > > Atas kejadian ini kalo nggak salah baca, rasanya kemarin reaksi kita di > > > dunia nyata nggak seperti dulu, artinya tetep ada semacam keyakinan bahwa > > > everything will be alright. Tapi yang mengagetkan bagi saya justru > > > komentar beberapa pejabat, termasuk SBY, yang kemudian mengundang reaksi > > > lain. > > > > > > > > > > Kesimpulan saya sbb: > > > > > - Ummat Islam masih dalam tahap denial, dan itu mengeras dan menyusup > > > kemana-mana. Ini memang masalahnya ummat Islam sedunia, dan kronis. > > > > > - Militerism adalah masalah lokal Indonesia, dimana fraksi2 itu memainkan > > > kartu Islam untuk kepentingan mereka. Ini termasuk masalah good > > > governance, masalah lokal Indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > Say no to violence! > > > > > > > > > > salam > > > > > Mia > > > > > > > > > > --- In wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com, "ritajkt" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Indonesia unite, ayo yang twitteran, let's join #Indonesiaunite# > > > > against terrorism! > > > > > > (tapi gw jg belum ngeh sih gimana caranya :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > Bener kata kawan-kawan semua, bener kata mas Ary, jangan jadi chaos dan > > > > kemakan sama terornya si teroris. Kita kudu tetep tenang dan > > > > melanjutkan aktivitas sambil terus waspada, kalo ada tetangga baru, > > > > harus cek asal usulnya dsb. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapi bener juga kok sinyalemen Pak Irwan, buktinya hari ini gak ada yg > > > > sempet ngelanjutin nulis soal IFES dan KPU, padahal kemarin kan lagi > > > > enak-enaknya menelanjangi IFES yang ternyata kantornya cuman segede > > > > kamar gw (bayangkan, lembaga ini yg menguasai data Pemilu 170 juta > > > > rakyat indonesia!), gak ada layar-layar besar memonitor jutaan angka, > > > > tapi hanya ada dua laptop di ruang utamanya! Padahal pula, HARI INI, > > > > angka tabulasi TIBA-TIBA naik 300%, Ajaib! > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapi yang paling bener ya mas DWS menurut gw, soale dr awal gw curiga > > > > ini teroris pasti didukung kompetitornya setan merah yaitu setan > > > > biru,ijo, kuning...ups :(( > > > > > > > > > > > > with great pain and
[wanita-muslimah] Twitteran {Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?}
Mbak Mia, twitter itu semacam fesbuk, tapi dalam bentuk 'mikro', hanya berisi 'wall' sebanyak 140 karakter/huruf setiap kali posting. Twiter ini 'mendunia' ketika jadi semacam 'alat revolusi' waktu pilpres di Iran kemarin, ketika internet diblokir, cuman twiter yg bisa jadi medium mereka utk menyuarakan kecurangan ke seluruh dunia, tanpa sensor. Mas DWS, pada hari pertama tragedy bom itu sih gerakan #indonesiaunite# itu bagus banget. Semacam peredam kepanikan, apalagi waktu jumat siang presiden malah bikin suasana tambah tegang di dalam negri dengan pidato "sby didzolimi lagi" ituh. Inti gerakan #indonesiaunite" itu, seluruh pengguna twiter asal Indonesia di seluruh dunia bersatu dan berkata "we are not afraid" dan setiap posting berisi kenangan indah di Indonesia. Pokoknya, teroris gak akan bisa ngalahin kita, dan bahkan disambut dengan tema2 nasionalis seperti ;Indonesia gak boleh hancur, ayo beli produk Indonesia, we are not afraid dan ayo liburan di dalam negri, dst. gerakan ini, secara gak diduga direspon ribuan pengguna twiter, termasuk orang asing yg pernah ke indonesia, ikutan mendukung dan cerita pengalaman serunya di sini. Dalam satu menit aja updatenya bisa ratusan posting yg masuk. Luar biasa deh! gerakan indonesia unite ini selama hari jumat dan sabtu sampai minggu pagi masih jadi topik utama di twiter.com loh, sebaris sama topik 'abadi' seperti michael jackson dsb. Tapi tadi saya cek, isinya udah melemah, he he he, udah pada cape kayaknya :( --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Mia" wrote: > > wait up! > twitter itu apa, gw pikir twister, bukan ya? > utk generasi pasca baby boom aku ini nggak pernah ketinggalan terobosan tech, > selalu jadi orang pertama yang pake, tapi setelah itu nggak pernah bisa catch > up. contoh, aku beliin anakku nintendo waktu dia usia 3 tahun, mario bros. > Seminggu lamanya aku selalu ngalahin dia, tapi setelah itu hiksss > > salam > Mia > > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Dwi Soegardi wrote: > > > > 2009/7/17 ritajkt : > > > Indonesia unite, ayo yang twitteran, let's join #Indonesiaunite# against > > > terrorism! > > > (tapi gw jg belum ngeh sih gimana caranya :)) > > > > Makasih infonya mbak. > > Rupanya sekarang twitter merambah juga ke para netter indonesia. > > > > Saya (twitter.com/soegardi) sudah coba lihat-lihat #indonesiaunite > > ternyata topiknya macam-macam bukan sekedar terorisme. > > Lumayan untuk cari teman dan diskusi. > > > > Caranya sih gampang aja > > - join twitter.com > > - cari (follow) teman > > - search "#indonesiaunite" > > - kalau ada yang menarik "Reply" atau "Retweet" (kayak forward) > > > > Dan jangan lupa > > - follow twitter.com/wanita_muslimah > > - search juga topik "#milisWM" > > > > salam twit-twit, > > >
Bls: [wanita-muslimah] Re: solat nggak pake mukena
Baju saya kalau di rumah, baju kasual yang bukan daster, tapi kaos dan celana olah raga/legging, biasanya sih ngepas saja. Saya nggak pake jilbab di luar maupun di rumah, karena yang saya pahami rambut dan bentuk tubuh bukan aurat - (yah, kecuali kalo perutnya ndut banget, atau malu rambutnya banyak uban, itu bisa jadi aurat bagi si pemilik tubuh, boleh kan?) salam Mia --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, hilyah awlya wrote: > > pakai mukena itu tidak harus. asal sudah memenuhi syarat menutupi batas aurat > wanita maka silahkan sholat. nah maslahnya, pakaian sehari2 kita kebanyakan > pas body meski sudah menutupi aurat, tapi tetep itu termasuk aurat! tentu > juga harus suci dari najis ya... punya wudlu' dan syarat2 sahnya sholat yang > lain2... > > ummumuvidah > > --- Pada Kam, 16/7/09, Mia menulis: > > Dari: Mia > Judul: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] Re: solat nggak pake mukena > Kepada: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com > Tanggal: Kamis, 16 Juli, 2009, 8:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Untuk keluar dari rutinitas mukena, aurat, dsb - saya > mencoba nggak pake mukena waktu solat sendirian di rumah. Rasanya enteng, > nggak panas, dan saya bisa memperhatikan gerakan, postur dan pernapasan saya > dengan lebih semestinya, ketimbang diribetin sama mukena. Kalau temen2 mau > ada yang coba, tolong sharing di WM rasanya gimana, solat nggak pake mukena > tapi baju yang sehari-hari di rumah, yang penting kan bersih. > > > > salam > > Mia > > > > --- In wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com, "Lina Dahlan" > wrote: > > > > > > Iya. Saya tahu kalo ini sudah masuk dalam kajian fiqih. Cuma saya takut > > salah aja nih. Bukannya rujukannya yaitu hadist ttg aurat ya? Yang kemudian > > Nabi SAW (?) menunjuk muka dan kedua tangannya? > > > Waduuuh..lagi males googling nih...:-) > > > > > > wassalam, > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com, Muizof wrote: > > > > > > > > itu sudah masuk referensi kajian fiqh mbak Lina, sepertinya mayoritas > > > sepakata mengenai batas yang boleh kelihatan dalam shalat bagi wanita > > > yaitu muka dan telapak tangan. > > > > > > > > Wassalam > > > > Abdul Mu'iz > > > > > > > > --- Pada Kam, 16/7/09, Lina Dahlan menulis: > > > > > > > > Dari: Lina Dahlan > > > > Judul: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Jilbab dan pengalaman pribadi - Polisi. > > > > Kepada: wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com > > > > Tanggal: Kamis, 16 Juli, 2009, 2:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Coba Yahoo! Mail baru yang LEBIH CEPAT. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! > http://id.mail.yahoo.com"; > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
untuk melindungi diri dari gendam, ada baiknya belajar mensinkronisasi pikiran liwat yoga supaya tidak mudah dirasuki bisikan jahat, yah oom ? * jadi masalah ketika Yoga sudah difatwa haram oleh MUI * 2009/7/20 ariel : > > > sedikit tambahan : > > jika pun benar ini bom bunuh diri, polisi semestinya menyelidiki kemungkinan > pelakunya dalam pengaruh hipnotis seperti pada acara Romy Rafael, atau > kemungkinan pelakunya tidak tahu apa-apa, hanya disuruh membawa tas ke dalam > dan diledakkan melalui remote kontrol jarak jauh. > > salam, > -ariel- > > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, izzuddin al qassam > wrote: >> >> hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja >> BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh >> diri) >> kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat dunia >> tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. >> I dont know its true or not. >> Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang >> sama apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat >> kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri >> >> seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di >> dekatnya >> jelas kasus ini politis banget. >> ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir ada >> benarnya >> isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi >> serius... >> >> yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri >> jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap >> teroris selama ini >> >> :putri >> > > -- salam, Ari
[wanita-muslimah] Twitteran {Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?}
wait up! twitter itu apa, gw pikir twister, bukan ya? utk generasi pasca baby boom aku ini nggak pernah ketinggalan terobosan tech, selalu jadi orang pertama yang pake, tapi setelah itu nggak pernah bisa catch up. contoh, aku beliin anakku nintendo waktu dia usia 3 tahun, mario bros. Seminggu lamanya aku selalu ngalahin dia, tapi setelah itu hiksss salam Mia --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Dwi Soegardi wrote: > > 2009/7/17 ritajkt : > > Indonesia unite, ayo yang twitteran, let's join #Indonesiaunite# against > > terrorism! > > (tapi gw jg belum ngeh sih gimana caranya :)) > > Makasih infonya mbak. > Rupanya sekarang twitter merambah juga ke para netter indonesia. > > Saya (twitter.com/soegardi) sudah coba lihat-lihat #indonesiaunite > ternyata topiknya macam-macam bukan sekedar terorisme. > Lumayan untuk cari teman dan diskusi. > > Caranya sih gampang aja > - join twitter.com > - cari (follow) teman > - search "#indonesiaunite" > - kalau ada yang menarik "Reply" atau "Retweet" (kayak forward) > > Dan jangan lupa > - follow twitter.com/wanita_muslimah > - search juga topik "#milisWM" > > salam twit-twit, >
[wanita-muslimah] Bom Teroris, Jangan Tebar Curiga!
http://www.lampungpost.com/buras.php?id=2009071822092714 Minggu, 19 Juli 2009 BURAS Bom Teroris, Jangan Tebar Curiga! H. Bambang Eka Wijaya "PENGAMAT teroris Asia Tenggara, Sidney Jones, memastikan di Metro TV (18-7), serangan bom ke Hotel J.W. Marriott dan Ritz Carlton Jumat dilakukan teroris terkait jaringan Noordin M. Top, bukan elemen lain! Jadi bukan terkait pemilu yang masih diproses!" ujar Umar. "Penegasan Jones layak disimak, agar di antara sesama kita tak saling mencurigai, apalagi saling menuduh, hingga akibat teroris masyarakat kita malah jadi terpecah belah! Padahal, yang dihadapi adalah teroris sebagai musuh bersama seluruh bangsa!" "Kalau ada yang terpancing dan menebar curiga, prasangka buruk di antara sesama warga bangsa, justru membuat usaha teroris untuk menciptakan kekeruhan, kekacauan, dan perpecahan dalam masyarakat Indonesia mencapai sasaran!" timpal Amir. "Juga mengait-ngaitkan serangan bom teroris itu dengan temuan intelijen terkait pemilu, karena yang terjadi justru akibat intel terobsesi pada ancaman terhadap pemilu, dan terbenam dalam paranoid obsesi tersebut, malah kebobolan serangan teroris!" "Artinya, jangan pula masyarakat bangsa diseret ke dalam obsesi kalangan intelijen! Karena, ditarik dalam sejarah pemilu di Indonesia, obsesi itu jelas sangat berlebihan!" tegas Umar. "Lebih baik kita kembali ke realitas, masyarakat bangsa Indonesia semakin matang berdemokrasi, obsesi-obsesi sebaliknya cuma menyesatkan! Seandai nanti ada demo menolak hasil penghitungan KPU, misalnya dengan alasan DPT yang kacau, itu pun masih bagian dari demokrasi, karena kekacauan DPT juga kenyataan! Apalagi di sisi lain, sudah ada tokoh seperti Gus Dur yang secara terbuka menolak hasil pemilu!" "Maka itu, kita hadapi terorisme sebagai musuh bersama--common enemy--masyarakat bangsa!" timpal Amir. "Intel-intel silakan merekam dan menganalisis ancaman dalam masyarakat, tapi alangkah baiknya jika setiap ancaman itu dibandingkan dengan realitas, sejauh mana perkembangan masyarakat kita dalam hal-hal tertentu--sejauh mana pula anomalinya, kalau ada! Tapi jelas, dalam masyarakat yang makin gandrung kedewasaan berdemokrasi sekarang, terlalu berlebihan diprediksi akan menempuh jalan revolusi untuk mencapai tujuan kekuasaan!" "Pokoknya, daripada neko-neko dengan paranoid kekuasaan hingga mencurigai tanpa alasan rakyat sendiri sebagai ancaman serius bagi keamanan nasional, lebih baik kalangan intel berkonsentrasi memusatkan perhatian untuk melacak jejak para teroris yang masih menjadi ancaman nyata itu!" tegas Umar. "Sangatlah ironis, jika intelnya lebih sibuk menguntit gerak-gerik rakyat yang lantas disimpulkan sebagai ancaman terhadap keamanan nasional, sedang para teroris malah dibiarkan leluasa menyiapkan serangan!" *** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Pelaku Sempat Ngopi Sebelum Ledakkan Bom
Harian Komentar 18 Juli 2009 Polri: Tewas delapan orang, termasuk kedua pelaku pengeboman Pelaku Sempat Ngopi Sebelum Ledakkan Bom Jakarta, KOMENTAR Ledakan bom di Hotel Ritz Carlton dan JW Marriot sekitar pukul 07.40 WIB Jumat (17/07) kemarin, merupakan aksi bom bunuh diri yang dilakukan dua orang. Menariknya, salah satu pelaku pengeboman yang teridentifikasi berini-sial AN alias Azis Nurdin, sempat ngopi sejenak di kamar Hotel JW Marriott nomor 1808, sebelum akhir-nya meledakkan diri dengan bom yang dipaket dalam tas laptop. Pasalnya, berdasarkan pen-jelasan sumber penyidik, ditemukan secangkir kopi yang belum terlalu dingin di kamar 1808, lantai 18 Hotel JW Marriott. Selain itu, dite-mukan juga bahan peledak di kamar tersebut. Namun disebutkan, bom tersebut berdaya low explosive. Ada dugaan, pelaku urung menggunakan bom tersebut dan kemudian mendapatkan suplai bom dari luar hotel yang memiliki daya ledak besar. "Mereka membawa (bom) dari luar sudah jadi," ujar Kadiv Hu-mas Mabes Polri Irjen Polisi Nanan Soekarna di depan Hotel JW Marriott, Jakarta, Jumat (17/07). Nanan menuturkan, pelaku berpura-pura membawa lap-top. Ia menduga petugas ke-amanan dikelabui saat laptop tersebut berhasil terdeteksi. "Pas bunyi tit.. Ditanya oleh petugas, laptop ya? Lalu di-jawab iya," jelasnya. Ketika ditanya soal barang bukti yang ditemukan di kamar pelaku, Nanan enggan menjelaskan lebih jauh. Ia hanya menegaskan, tidak ada dokumen Jamaah Islamiyah di kamar tersebut. "Itu juga bukan persembunyian, itu hanya posko sementara," pungkasnya. Menurut informasi, Nurdin Azis telah menempati kamar 1808 tersebut selama seming-gu. "Di kamar itu dijadikan posko sejak tanggal 15 Juli. Seharusnya dia check out," kata Kapolri Jenderal Polisi Bambang Hendarso Danuri (BHD) dalam jumpa pers. Polisi juga memastikan bahwa jumlah korban tewas akibat ledakan bom di Hotel JW Marriott dan Ritz Carlton berjumlah delapan Orang. Termasuk dua di antaranya pelaku bom bunuh diri. "Sebagian besar korban di Hotel Marriott," kata Kapolri. Namun polisi sendiri belum bisa memastikan apakah pe-laku bom bunuh diri di Hotel Ritz Carlton dan JW Marriott warga negara Indonesia atau warga asing. Polisi masih melakukan penyelidikan. "Apakah dia WNA (warga negara asing) atau dari negara mana akan dijelaskan besok," kata Kapolri Jenderal Polisi Bambang Hendarso Danuri. Saat ini polisi masih melaku-kan olah tempat kejadian perkara (TKP) dan data-data dari dua pelaku sedang dise-lidiki. "Kita identifikasi setelah tim disaster victim identi-fication (DVI)," tutupnya. Yang pasti, pelaku menyamar menjadi tamu hotel. "Iya betul (menyamar sebagai tamu)," kata Kapolda Metro Jaya Irjen Polisi Wahyono. Wahyono juga mengatakan ada kesamaan unsur bom yang meledak di tempat keja-dian perkara dan kamar. "Di dalam kamar ditemukan mur," kata dia. Namun bom aktif yang ditemukan di lantai 18, Hotel JW Marriott, Kuningan, Jakarta Selatan. Setelah dijinakkan dan diurai, bom itu jenisnya low explosive . "Setelah dilakukan olah TKP, ditemukan bom dan dapat dijinakkan. Diurai unsurnya black powder, jenisnya low exsplosive," kata Wahyono. Dikatakan dia, bom meledak di depan JW Marriott sekitar pukul 07.47 WIB. Disusul 07.57 WIB, di Ritz Carlton, tepatnya di Restauran Airlang-ga. "Kemudian, kita lakukan evakuasi korban. Total korban 61 orang. Dengan perincian tujuh meninggal dunia di lokasi kejadian. Satu orang mening-gal di rumah sakit dan 53 lain-nya dirawat di rumah sakit," ujar Wahyono. Berikut identitas enam kor-ban yang tewas akibat penge-boman tersebut. Mereka adalah Timothy D Mackay (61) asal Selandia Baru, Natan Verity (39) asal Australia, Garth McEvoy (40) asal Australia, Arnold asal Singapura, Dar-manto asal Indonesia dan seorang wanita yang belum teridentifikasi. Sementara dua lainnya, adalah kedua pelaku bom bunuh diri. Salah satunya bernama Azis Nurdin namun rekannya yang satu masih misterius, karena kondisi tu-buhnya hancur.(dtc/zal/s [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
sedikit tambahan : jika pun benar ini bom bunuh diri, polisi semestinya menyelidiki kemungkinan pelakunya dalam pengaruh hipnotis seperti pada acara Romy Rafael, atau kemungkinan pelakunya tidak tahu apa-apa, hanya disuruh membawa tas ke dalam dan diledakkan melalui remote kontrol jarak jauh. salam, -ariel- --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, izzuddin al qassam wrote: > > hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja > BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh > diri) > kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat dunia > tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. > I dont know its true or not. > Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang sama > apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat > kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri > > seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di > dekatnya > jelas kasus ini politis banget. > ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir ada > benarnya > isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi > serius... > > yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri > jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap teroris > selama ini > > :putri >
[wanita-muslimah] Healthy diet, exercise keeps mind sharp as you age
http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=199175 July 19, 2009 Healthy diet, exercise keeps mind sharp as you age Eat right, exercise and hope that your genes don't predispose you to dementia. That's the recipe for preserving cognitive function as you age, according to four new studies that were presented this week at the Alzheimer's Association annual meeting, in Vienna. The findings echo other research suggesting that clean living can safeguard mental sharpness. However, one of the studies did contain a surprise finding -- that strenuous exercise actually impaired cognitive skills later in life. That should be viewed, for now, with some skepticism, said William Thies, chief medical and scientific officer of the Alzheimer's Association. "That's something I wouldn't take on faith from a single study," he stressed. But the heart-healthy diet advice seemed sound, he said, and confirms other research. In that study, Heidi Wengreen, an assistant professor of nutrition at Utah State University, asked 3,831 adults, aged 65 and older, to complete a food survey. They then tested their cognitive skills over an 11-year period, beginning in 1995. The researchers looked to see how well the participants followed the DASH diet, an eating regimen that protects against hypertension and heart trouble. Those who followed the DASH diet more closely had higher scores on the cognitive tests at the start of the study and over time, Wengreen found. Although Wengreen said more study was needed, "I believe there is plenty of evidence to suggest that diet plays a role in delaying cognitive decline and perhaps preventing Alzheimer's disease among the elderly." Two exercise studies found staying active can also help. In one study, Deborah E. Barnes, of the University of California, San Francisco, followed more than 3,000 adults aged 70 to 79. Those who were sedentary had the lowest level of cognitive function at the start and higher rates of decline over the course of the seven-year study. A third study found moderate long-term exercise helped cognitive skills later, but that strenuous long-term exercise might hamper them. Mary Tierney, a professor of family and community medicine at the University of Toronto, evaluated 90 women, aged 50 to 63, taking into account their long-term activity, both moderate and strenuous. Each woman got a score for strenuous and moderate activity. Strenuous activities included swimming laps, aerobics, calisthenics, jogging, running, basketball, biking on hills and racquetball. Moderate included brisk walking, golf, volleyball, cycling on level streets, tennis and softball. "The average long-term strenuous activity was for 2.5 hours a week, and the average long-term moderate activity was 3.2 hours a week," Tierney said. "The worst groups (on cognitive function tests) were the ones highest in strenuous and lowest in moderate," she said. Exactly why the link showed up isn't known, she said. But it may be that the strenuous exercise is lowering estrogen levels and lowered estrogen lowers cognitive skills. "Estrogen is bad for breast cancer, but good for the brain," Tierney explained. It's impossible to say how much exercise is too much, Tierney added. Yet another study in which researchers followed nearly 1,800 men and women aged 60 and older found that physical activity boosts cognitive function, except in those who carried the so-called Alzheimer's gene, known as APOE-e4. Thies said the study on the DASH diet may be especially valuable because the diet gives detailed information about what to eat and the plan is widely available. The link found between strenuous exercise and lowered cognitive skills may be explained by something else in future research, he said. "You could propose that people who exercise perhaps are a little more tired when they take the test," Thies noted. "I think the general recommendation that exercise is good (for cognitive skills) is still valid," he said. (Source: HealthDay News) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Opposition grows to appointment of new first VP
http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=199130 July 19, 2009 Opposition grows to appointment of new first VP Tehran Times Political Desk QOM -- The appointment of Esfandiar Rahim-Mashaii as the new first vice president has caused concern among loyalists of the Islamic Revolution, a member of the Presiding Board of the Qom Seminary Teachers Society said on Saturday. In the current situation, when the country needs unity more than ever before, Rahim-Mashai's appointment was not appropriate, Hojatoleslam Seyyed Mohammad Qaravi told the Mehr News Agency correspondent in Qom. Qaravi made the remarks after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad issued a decree appointing the director of Iran's Cultural Heritage, Tourism, and Handicrafts Organization as the new first vice president on Saturday. In his appointment decree, Ahmadinejad described Rahim-Mashaii as a pious, honest, and self-made man. In 2008, Rahim-Mashaii said, "Iran is a friend of the Israeli people" in stark contrast to Iran's stance on the Zionist regime, and Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei criticized him for his remarks. Majlis Energy Committee Chairman Hamid-Reza Katouzian has also criticized Ahmadinejad for his hasty selection of Rahim-Mashaii for the post of first vice president. "Such appointments are usually made after the inauguration and authorization ceremonies, and it would have been better if this practice was also followed this time," he told the Mehr News Agency on Saturday. Katouzian said many religious figures and MPs are not pleased with some of his remarks and actions. Even the Supreme Leader made comments about Rahim-Mashaii and the president should have heeded these comments, he added. "Despite all these sensitive points, Mr. Rahim-Mashaii did not even apologize, but quite the contrary, insisted on his views," he pointed out. Katouzian said the decision to make the appointment did not take the views of the people and the Supreme Leader into consideration. "I think Mr. Ahmadinejad made a mistake in this appointment, and I am of the opinion that this choice will have some repercussions," he added. "Mr. Ahmadinejad has always showed (us) that he is 100 percent heedless in situations that are very sensitive," Katouzian stated [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Marriott II
http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/carianginKT/2009/07/19/krn.20090719.171507.id.html Marriott II Minggu, 19 Juli 2009 | 01:09 WIB a.. Putu Setia Bom yang diledakkan teroris di Indonesia tampaknya berseri. Kita mengenal Bom Bali I, yang menewaskan 202 korban dan ratusan luka parah pada 12 Oktober 2002. Korbannya kebanyakan orang asing, namun dampaknya pada 3 juta penduduk Bali yang langsung terpuruk perekonomiannya. Pada saat orang Bali berbenah, bom kembali meledak pada 1 Oktober 2005. Orang menyebutnya--meski saya tak suka--Bom Bali II. Hotel JW Marriott sudah dihantam bom pada 5 Agustus 2003, yang menewaskan 11 orang. Setelah enam tahun berlalu dan orang melupakannya--termasuk mungkin petugas keamanan hotel--Jumat lalu kembali hotel itu diporak-porandakan bom. Bom Marriott jilid kedua? Sungguh saya tak suka penomoran ini. Ini titik hitam sejarah Indonesia. Begitulah Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono mengomentari ledakan bom ini dengan "lebih cepat". Semua penduduk negeri saya kira sependapat, ulah teroris itu merupakan titik hitam kelewat hitam untuk bangsa yang sedang sukses melaksanakan pemilihan umum dengan damai. Semua elemen bangsa, entah politikus atau pemimpin agama, apalagi penggemar sepak bola, pasti mengutuk keras ulah teroris yang "berani mati" tapi "takut hidup" itu, yang meledakkan bom bunuh diri. Cuma, pasti banyak yang menyayangkan--dengan segala hormat, termasuk saya--kenapa Presiden SBY bertindak "lebih cepat tapi tidak lebih baik"? SBY berpidato terlalu banyak untuk sebuah duka yang menyayat. Disayangkan lagi, kelebihan kata yang banyak itu justru dikait-kaitkannya ledakan Bom Marriott II dengan pemilihan presiden. Seolah-olah bom ini ada tautannya dengan kalah-menang dalam pemilihan presiden. Begitu usai pernyataan itu, saya langsung mengirim pesan pendek kepada tokoh-tokoh masyarakat Bali dan menulis pesan di Facebook. Intinya, saya minta masyarakat tidak termakan provokasi, jaga persatuan, kendalikan diri, berdoa agar "air tak makin keruh". Yang saya bayangkan, orang-orang yang kena "sindir" Presiden SBY akan bereaksi, dan "air pun makin keruh". Pengalaman buruk seperti ini terlalu banyak di Bali. Ketika Megawati Soekarnoputri kalah oleh Abdurrahman Wahid pada pemilihan presiden dalam Sidang Umum Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat, orang Bali mengamuk. Kompleks perkantoran mewah Kabupaten Badung dibakar jadi arang seutuhnya, belum lagi puluhan bangunan di berbagai kota ludes dibakar massa. Korban akibat "kepicikan politik" semacam ini sudah menjadi umum di masa lalu, bahkan tragedi 1965 yang menewaskan ratusan ribu orang Bali itu jadi monumen "titik kelewat hitam". Puji syukur, Tuhan. Megawati ternyata tenang dalam kasus Bom Marriott II ini. Jusuf Kalla lebih tenang lagi, bahkan sempat tersenyum sedikit ketika menyebutkan, "Ah, tak ada itu, jadi dikira Mega dan saya yang melakukan (pengeboman) itu." Yang sungguh menggembirakan adalah Prabowo Subianto; tak mau menanggapi pernyataan SBY, mengutuk pelaku peledakan bom itu, dan siap bekerja sama memerangi teroris. Saya kagum terhadap ketiga tokoh ini. Pada saat orang panik, mereka bikin tenang. Teroris harus diperangi dengan bersatunya seluruh elemen bangsa. Ini bukan masalah agama, tak ada agama mengajarkan kedurjanaan. Namun, perang terhadap teroris juga tak bisa dilakukan dengan panik, apalagi takut. Lebih-lebih lagi melemparkan dugaan kepada orang atau kelompok tertentu tanpa diselidiki lebih jauh kebenarannya. Teroris harus dihadapi sebagai "musuh bersama". Mereka tentu tertawa kalau kita saling mencurigai. Bom Marriott, seperti halnya bom Bali, harus kita sudahi sampai bilangan dua. Polisi harus lebih sigap, lupakan dulu menangkap cicak. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Polisi Akui, Teror Bom di Mana-mana...
http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/kriminal/2009/07/20/brk,20090720-188000,id.html Polisi Akui, Teror Bom di Mana-mana... Senin, 20 Juli 2009 | 06:47 WIB TEMPO Interaktif, Jakarta --Juru Bicara Markas Besar Kepolisian RI Inspektur Jenderal Nanan Sukarna mengakui setelah peledakan Hotel JW Marriott dan Ritz Carlton jakarta, ancaman bom terjadi di sejumlah tempat. Ia minta pemberitaan media massa tentang ancaman bom tidak menimbulkan ketakutan pada masyarakat. "Ancaman bom memang muncul (di mana-mana)," kata Nanan kepada Tempo kemarin. Sehari setelah ledakan bom di kawasan bisnis Mega Kuningan Jumat pekan lalu itu, sedikitnya terjadi tiga ancaman pengeboman. Dua ancaman bom terjadi di Jakarta, yaitu di Hotel Four Season dan Blok M Square. Sedangkan ancaman ketiga terjadi Hotel Best Western Asean Medan. Nanan menegaskan, bahwa ancaman tersebut harus diwaspadai. "Kami selalu waspada dan telah meningkatkan keamanan sejak beberapa hari lalu. Peningkatan pengamanan ini bukan hanya setelah ada ancaman bom," ujarnya. Polisi, menurut Nanan, juga selalu menanggapi dan menangani setiap ancaman yang terjadi dengan serius. "Setiap ancaman selaku kami tangani dan tindaklanjuti untuk menemukan kebenarannya". Namun, kata dia, seringkali ancaman itu berasal dari orang iseng. "Atau ancaman yang ditujukan untuk iseng saja," ujar Nanan. Karena itu Nanan minta agar media bijak dalam memberitakan ancaman-ancaman seperti itu. "Tolong jangan malah membuat masyarakat ketakutan, ini bisa membuat senang para peneror," kata Nanan. "Lagipula apa bedanya kita dengan peneror kalau berita yang disampaikan malah menimbulkan ketakutan atau teror juga". TITIS SETIANINGTYAS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Princess facing Saudi death penalty given secret UK asylum
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/princess-facing-saudi-death-penalty-given-secret-uk-asylum-1753007.html Princess facing Saudi death penalty given secret UK asylum Woman feared she would be stoned after giving birth to illegitimate child in Britain By Robert Verkaik, Home Affairs Editor Monday, 20 July 2009 A Saudi Arabian princess who had an illegitimate child with a British man has secretly been granted asylum in this country after she claimed she would face the death penalty if she were forced to return home. The young woman, who has been granted anonymity by the courts, won her claim for refugee status after telling a judge that her adulterous affair made her liable to death by stoning. Her case is one of a small number of claims for asylum brought by citizens of Saudi Arabia which are not openly acknowledged by either government. British diplomats believe that to do so would in effect be to highlight the persecution of women in Saudi Arabia, which would be viewed as open criticism of the House of Saud and lead to embarrassing publicity for both governments. The woman, who comes from a very wealthy Saudi family, says she met her English boyfriend - who is not a Muslim - during a visit to London. They struck up a relationship. She became pregnant the following year and worried that her elderly husband - a member of the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia - had become suspicious of her behaviour, she persuaded him to let her visit the UK again to give birth in secret. She feared for her life if she returned to Saudi Arabia. She persuaded the court that if she returned to the Gulf state she and her child would be subject to capital punishment under Sharia law - specifically flogging and stoning to death. She was also worried about the possibility of an honour killing. Since she fled Saudi Arabia, her family and her husband's family have broken off contact with her. The woman has been granted permanent leave to remain in the UK after the Immigration and Asylum tribunal allowed her appeal. The Home Office yesterday declined to discuss the case. A spokesman for the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia in London said that he would call back but subsequently became unavailable. Relations between the UK and Saudi Arabia have been strained in recent years and were brought to a head in 2006 when Tony Blair intervened to end a Serious Fraud Office (SFO) inquiry into alleged kickbacks paid in a multibillion military aircraft deal between the two states. The Saudi royal family was deeply concerned about the idea that the investigators might try o open up their Swiss bank accounts, it was alleged at the time. This led the Saudis to threaten to restrict the sharing of intelligence relating to terror activity if the prosecution went ahead. They also threatened to pull out of other highly-lucrative arms deals. Last year, the House of Lords ruled that the SFO's decision to drop the corruption investigation into the £43bn Saudi arms deal with BAE Systems was unlawful. In a hard-hitting ruling, two High Court judges described the SFO's decision as "an outrage". One of them, Lord Justice Moses, said the SFO and the Government had given into "blatant threats" that Saudi intelligence co-operation would end unless the probe into corruption was halted. "No one, whether within this country or outside, is entitled to interfere with the course of our justice," he said. "It is the failure of government and the defendant to bear that essential principle in mind that justifies the intervention of this court." The Middle East state has been shrouded in controversy over oppressive policies against women and homosexuals. Secrecy surrounds much of the Saudi legal system, but in a recent report on the use of the death penalty in the kingdom, the human rights group Amnesty International highlighted its extensive use against men and women. Adulterers face public stonings and floggings and, in the most serious cases, beheadings and hangings. The high numbers of executions in Saudi Arabia in 2007 continued into 2008. There were at least 102 executions of men and women last year - at an average rate of two every week. Amnesty is aware of at least 136 individuals currently awaiting execution. Last week, Saudi Arabia's religious police were blamed for the death of two sisters who were murdered in what was deemed an "honour killing" by their brother, after the sisters were arrested for allegedly mixing with men to whom they were not related. The Society for Defending Women's Rights in Saudi Arabia said that the religious police had arrested the two sisters, aged 19 and 21, thus putting their lives in danger. Their brother shot them dead in front of their father when they left a women's shelter in Riyadh on 5 July, according to Saudi news reports. In 2007, in a case that shocked Saudis, a woman from Qatif was sentenced to 200 lashes and six months in prison after b
[wanita-muslimah] Sirkus Drakula
Sirkus Drakula drakula siapa punya nyali? musuhmu adalah kemunafikan tontonan sirkus politisi istana info bocor napsu juara isu suluk dalang mistik politik obral intrik demi kekuasaan budaya horor melawan teror? musuhmu adalah kemiskinan! Heri Latief Amsterdam, 20/07/2009 http://herilatief.wordpress.com/ http://akarrumputliar.wordpress.com/ http://sastrapembebasan.wordpress.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
putri ditanyain tuh, ama teh mia Tapi Puteri bilang "(dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh diri}", coba Arcon tanya Puteri, itu maksudnya apa. 2009/7/19 Mia : > > > Arcon, menurut argumen Puteri bom Bali juga kekanak2an, karena pake ngebom > dua tempat, buat apa? Jadi kesimpulannya bom Bali juga bukan teroris tapi > politis. Arcon mesti memahami logika argumen Puteri dong... > > Tapi Puteri bilang "(dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh diri}", coba Arcon tanya > Puteri, itu maksudnya apa. > > salam > Mia > > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Ari Condro wrote: >> >> teori putri jelas tertolak dgn sendirinya. >> >> di bali tuh bom diledakkan di dua tempat yg berdekatan. >> >> >> >> 2009/7/19 izzuddin al qassam : >> > >> > >> > hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja >> > BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom >> > bunuh >> > diri) >> > kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat >> > dunia >> > tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. >> > I dont know its true or not. >> > Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang >> > sama >> > apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat >> > kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri >> > >> > seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di >> > dekatnya >> > jelas kasus ini politis banget. >> > ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir >> > ada >> > benarnya >> > isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi >> > serius... >> > >> > yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri >> > jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap >> > teroris >> > selama ini >> > >> > :putri >> > >> > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Wikan Danar Sunindyo wrote: >> > >> > From: Wikan Danar Sunindyo >> > >> > Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Ledakan di Jakarta? >> > To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com >> > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:44 AM >> > >> > >> > >> > gak ada hubungannya >> > >> > kenapa putri bisa berpikir seperti itu? >> > >> > salam, >> > >> > -- >> > >> > wikan >> > >> > 2009/7/17 izzuddin al qassam : >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> nggak tau kenapa put berfikir ini ada hubungannya sama kasus penembakan >> >> di >> > >> >> freeport yang masih diusut BIN >> > >> >> >> > >> >> menurut om-om disini gimana? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> salam, >> Ari >> > > -- salam, Ari
[wanita-muslimah] New warning issued as digger dies
http://www.theage.com.au/national/new-warning-issued-as-digger-dies-20090719-dpjd.html?page=-1 New warning issued as digger dies Tom Allard, Jakarta and Brendan Nicholson July 20, 2009 AUSTRALIANS have been warned that more terrorist attacks could be launched in Indonesia in the wake of Friday's deadly hotel bombings in Jakarta that killed nine people and injured more than 50. The Federal Government has also linked the bombings in Indonesia to the ongoing fight against terrorism in Afghanistan, where the 11th Australian soldier was killed on Saturday. Indonesian police last night said Jemaah Islamiah - which was responsible for the 2002 Bali bombing - committed the atrocities. "We confirm that the attackers are from Jemaah Islamiah because there are similarities in the bombs used," national police spokesman Nanan Soekarna said. In Afghanistan, Private Benjamin Ranaudo, 22, was killed by a bomb or mine as his unit surrounded a walled compound in the Baluchi Valley of southern Afghanistan while searching for insurgents. A second Australian soldier was seriously wounded and was to be flown to a military hospital in Germany. Three Afghan civilians, including an eight-year-old boy, were also hurt and are being treated in Afghanistan. Private Ranaudo, who had been in Afghanistan for only four weeks, was described as a dedicated professional soldier. "He died ensuring that terrorist groups do not have Afghanistan as a base from which they can plan and mount attacks," said the chief of the Defence Force, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston. Prime Minister Kevin Rudd warned that victory in Afghanistan was necessary to stop the country becoming a terrorist stronghold. Mr Rudd offered his condolences to Private Ranaudo's family, but made it clear the Government remained committed to the war. "In the light of these terrible events in Afghanistan yesterday, it's important for us all to remember here in Australia that Afghanistan has been a training ground for terrorists worldwide, a training ground also for terrorists in South-East Asia, reminding us of the reasons that we are in that field of combat and reaffirming our resolve to remain committed to that cause," Mr Rudd said. In a weekend interview, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates warned that US-led forces in Afghanistan must start to show progress within the next year, or face the likely loss of public support. "After the Iraq experience, nobody is prepared to have a long slog where it is not apparent we are making headway," Mr Gates said. "The troops are tired, the American people are pretty tired." Lowy Institute defence analyst Hugh White warned against connecting progress in Afghanistan with the broader fight against international terrorists, saying he did not believe the situation in Afghanistan made much difference to terrorism in Indonesia or elsewhere. The investigation into Friday's bombings in Jakarta is yet to result in arrests. The man many suspect of being the mastermind, fugitive Malaysian-born terrorist Noordin Mohammed Top, remains at large. The Department of Foreign Affairs has issued a new travel advisory, warning that "there is a possibility of further terrorist attacks in Jakarta and elsewhere in Indonesia, including Bali". The language was new, although the overall level of the advice - "reconsider your need to travel" - is at the level established since the 2002 bombings in Bali. It is the second-highest level of alert, below the blanket warning of "do not travel". Three Australians died in Friday's attacks: Craig Senger, Nathan Verity and Garth McEvoy. Indonesian investigators were yet to identify definitely either of the suicide bombers, national police spokesman Nanan Soekarna told The Age. Investigators were trying to reconstruct the pair's features from their severed heads to establish their identity. There was speculation that Nur Hasbi, also known as Nur Sahid, would be revealed as one of the bombers. His father was visited at his Central Java village by investigators, who may have taken a DNA sample to match with the bomber's badly mutilated corpse. Meanwhile, a laptop believed to have belonged to one of the bombers was found in a room at the Ritz-Carlton. Jakarta Police's Chryshnanda Dwi Laksana said the laptop contained information and codes believed to have been used by the bombers. A room in the Marriott hotel that was the "control centre" of the operation was booked under the name Nurdin Aziz. Terrorism analyst Sidney Jones said she suspected the man was Nur Hasbi, a member of a terror group led by Noordin Top. Australian Federal Police will assist their Indonesian colleagues in deciphering the codes, as well as provide high-tech equipment to give greater clarity to CCTV footage that could help identify the killers. Australian s
[wanita-muslimah] High blood sugar may increase Alzheimer's disease risk
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=217172 High blood sugar may increase Alzheimer's disease risk Sunday July 19, 2009 (0055 PST) ISLAMABAD: People with high blood sugar levels may increase the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease, said researchers from the Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, Sweden. The researchers presented the findings of the study at the 10th International Conference on Alzheimer's Disease and Related Disorders in Madrid Monday. The study, included 1,173 people aged 75 and older for 9 years, found that the risk of developing dementia was highest in people with pre-diabetes who had high blood pressure as well. The condition with high blood sugar levels that is not yet in the established diabetes range is called pre-diabetes. Researchers said that people with higher than normal blood sugar levels could be at an increased risk for developing Alzheimer's disease at a later stage. Alzheimer's disease is the most common form of dementia among older people. It is estimated that up to 4 million Americans suffer from dementia. It usually starts after 60 years of age and the risk increases as people age. People afflicted with Alzheimer's disease may have trouble remembering recent events, activities, or the names of familiar people or things. The disease develops gradually and a person might live for 8 to 10 years after initial diagnosis, but can stretch up to 20 years. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Powerful Iranian cleric says country in crisis
http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MTk1NTc0ODgx Regional News Powerful Iranian cleric says country in crisis Published Date: July 19, 2009 TEHRAN: In a sign of endurance for Iran's protest movement, demonstrators clashed with police Friday as one of the nation's most powerful clerics challenged the supreme leader during Muslim prayers, saying the country was in crisis in the wake of a disputed election. The turnout of tens of thousands of worshippers for former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani's sermon at Tehran University and the battles with police outside represented the biggest opposition show of strength in weeks. Protesters faced fierce government suppression and hundreds were arrested following the June 12 presidential election. Outside the university, protests grew from several hundred people before the sermon to thousands afterward as worshippers joined in, chanting "death to the dictator," a reference to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Protesters were confronted by riot police and a menacing line of pro-government Basiji militiamen on motorcycles, who charged with batons. Plainclothes Basijis fired volleys of tear gas, and young protesters with green bandanas over their faces kicked the canisters across the pavement. Some set a bonfire in the street and waved their hands in victory signs. Dozens were arrested and taken away in trucks, witnesses said. Protests, which flared following the election, had been stifled in recent weeks. The sometimes tearful sermon by Rafsanjani could be a significant boost to the movement's staying power. It was an open challenge to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, aired live on nationwide radio from one of the country's most potent political stages. By openly showing the divisions in the leadership, it punched a hole in efforts by Khamenei and hard-line clerics to end the controversy over Ahmadinejad's re-election. Worshippers chanted "azadi, azadi," Persian for "freedom," during Rafsanjani's sermon, his first since the election. Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, who claims to have won the election, sat among the worshippers, attending the country's main prayer service for the first time since the turmoil began. Many of those gathered wore headbands or wristbands in his campaign color green, or had green prayer rugs, crowding the former soccer field where prayers are held and spilling into nearby streets. Rafsanjani denounced the government crackdown on protests and called for the release of the hundreds detained. He reprimanded the clerical leadership for not listening to people's complaints over the election, which was declared a victory for Ahmadinejad despite opposition accusations of fraud. There is a large portion of the wise people who say they have doubts (about the election). We need to take action to remove this doubt," he said. "The trust that brought the people to vote in such large numbers is not there anymore. We need to return this trust." Rafsanjani avoided directly mentioning Khamenei or outright calling the vote fraudulent. He couched his sermon in calls for unity in support of Iran's Islamic Republic, but it was clear he blamed the leadership for the loss of unity. Tears welled in the cleric's eyes as he spoke of how Islam's Prophet Muhammad "respected the rights" of his people. He said the founder of Iran's Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, "would always say that if the system is not backed by the people, nothing would stand." For Iranians listening across the country, the weekly Friday sermon in Tehran is the voice of the leadership and a symbol of its backing by God. After hundreds of thousands joined protests against the election results in the days following the vote, the supreme leader used the podium to declare Ahmadinejad's victory valid and order a stop to unrest. The crackdown was launched soon after. In the weeks that followed, hard-line clerics have used the sermon to depict the protesters as tools of foreign enemies and tell worshippers to follow Khamenei. Rafsanjani's sermon signaled the broader public that the dispute was internal and even Iran's ruling clerics are split. He directly referred to the divisions, saying the revered topmost theologians of Shia Islam, who have millions of followers, were not happy with the government. Rafsanjani heads two powerful clerical bodies that oversee the government and parliament, the Expediency Council and the Experts Council. He is a bitter rival of Ahmadinejad and is considered Mousavi's top supporter within Iran's clerical leadership. A mercurial and savvy politician, Rafsanjani positioned himself as a leader emerging to resolve the unrest, saying he hoped his words would be a start to "help us pass safely through a problem that can unfortunately be called a crisis." He specifically criticized his top rivals within the clerical leadership _ the Guardians Council, a body dominated by ha
[wanita-muslimah] Ahmadinejad criticized over vice president choice
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=ahmadinejad-criticized-over-vice-president-choice-2009-07-19 Ahmadinejad criticized over vice president choice Sunday, July 19, 2009 TEHRAN - The Associated Press President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, already at the center of a post-election crisis, came under criticism from his own hard-line supporters Sunday for appointing a first vice president who once caused an outcry by saying Iranians were friends of Israelis. Ahmadinejad has been under siege by opposition supporters who claim he stole last month's election from pro-reform candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi. The latest criticism was a reminder that while hard-liners have supported Ahmadinejad in the election dispute, they often criticized him before the vote, especially over his handling of Iran's economy. The disagreements among hard-liners had been set aside since the June 12 election as they faced hundreds of thousands of Mousavi supporters who protested in the streets over what they said was massive vote fraud. Authorities have cracked down violently and have arrested hundreds. They detained 40 on Friday after police clashed with thousands of protesters in the biggest opposition show of strength in weeks, the semiofficial Fars news agency reported Sunday. Some of those arrested were eventually released, it said. The clashes followed a sermon by one of Iran's most powerful clerics, former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who criticized the government's response to the election dispute. Also Friday, Ahmadinejad appointed Esfandiar Rahim Mashai, his son's father-in-law, as his first vice president. Mashai angered hard-liners in 2008 when he said Iranians were "friends of all people in the world - even Israelis." Mashai was serving as vice president in charge of tourism and cultural heritage at the time. Iran has 12 vice presidents, but the first vice president is the most important because he leads Cabinet meetings in the absence of the president. Hossein Shariatmadari, an aide to supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and editor of hard-line Kayhan newspaper, said Sunday that Mashai's appointment caused "a wave of surprise mixed with regret and concern" among Ahmadinejad supporters. "Many of the closest individuals to the president strongly oppose the appointment," he added. Most hard-liners consider Israel to be Iran's archenemy, and Ahmadinejad himself has repeatedly called for the Jewish state's destruction. Khamenei, who has supported Ahmadinejad in the election dispute, called Mashai's comments about Israelis "illogical" shortly after he said them but urged critics to abandon their call for the president to fire his relative. Mashai also angered many of Iran's top clerics in 2007 when he attended a ceremony in Turkey where women performed a traditional dance. Conservative interpretations of Islam prohibit women from dancing. He ran into trouble again in 2008 when he hosted a ceremony in Tehran in which several women played tambourines while another one carried the Quran to a podium to recite verses from the Muslim holy book. Hard-liners viewed the festive mood as disrespectful to the Quran. Ali Motahari, a prominent hard-line lawmaker, said lawmakers should summon Ahmadinejad to parliament to express opposition to Mashai. Others said they planned to appeal to Khamenei to reverse the appointment. The supreme leader has final say over all state matters. The criticism was a change of focus for hard-liners, who have spent the last few weeks lambasting Mousavi and his supporters for challenging the presidential election. On Saturday, hard-liners accused Rafsanjani of defying Khamenei by using his sermon to encourage opposition supporters to continue their protests. Rafsanjani, speaking publicly for the first time since the election, denounced the government's violent crackdown against protesters and demanded the release of those detained. Instead of suppression, he said the government should work to address the concerns Iranians have over the legitimacy of the vote. The sermon was a direct challenge to Khamenei and his hard-line supporters, who have said the election was fair and have called on opposition supporters to drop their claims of vote fraud. The protest movement and the split it has caused within the highest reaches of Iran's clerical hierarchy have presented Khamenei with the country's greatest challenge since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Reimagining the state ideology Pancasila?
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/07/18/reimagining-state-ideology-pancasila.html Reimagining the state ideology Pancasila? Michael O'Shannassy , Yogyakarta | Sat, 07/18/2009 1:54 PM | Recently, Sanata Dharma University in Yogyakarta hosted the 2nd International Yale Indonesia Forum, the title of which was "Pancasila's Contemporary Appeal: Re-Legitimizing Indonesia's Founding Ethos". The central questions of this conference implied that the degree to which Pancasila remained relevant in contemporary Indonesia largely hinged upon its continuing ability to counter the effects of potentially centrifugal forces, such as religion and ethnicity. However, is this enough? Can such an instrumental relationship suffice in order for Pancasila to assume its place as one of the primary foundations of what it means to be an Indonesian? In short, what is, or rather, what can be the relationship between Pancasila and national identity in contemporary Indonesia? The goal of any government or regime is to render itself the primary source of authority, ideally legitimate, within its borders. It is in this respect that a genuinely felt sense of national identity becomes significant in so much as it is able to act as a source of legitimacy; reflected, for example, in the notion of a government existing and acting for "the people". The problem in many post-colonial states is that who and what exactly are "the people" remains relatively amorphous, especially in the presence of multiple ethnicities and/or religions. Such states have generally lacked a coherent, inclusive myth to supply a metaphysical basis for the state. However, as the history of independent Indonesia demonstrates, Pancasila has been able to act as just one such "inclusive myth", providing a common footing from which to weave together the many diverse and disparate elements that constitute Indonesia. It is as an articulation of Bhineka Tunggal Ika, arguably the most elemental and long-standing expression of Indonesian national unity, that Pancasila continues to enjoy widespread consensus from almost all sections of Indonesian society. However, this broad societal acceptance of Pancasila as something quite essential in determining what it means to be "Indonesian" is altogether different than agreeing on how exactly to interpret this fundamental concept. This is especially evident after the fall of the New Order regime in 1998 with the emergence of a far more uncertain terrain upon which to negotiate the relationship between Pancasila and Indonesian national identity. What we see then in the "era Reformasi" is a proliferation of competing discourses on national identity of which most, but not all, were Pancasila-based. In fact, one can discern a number of distinct derivations of the overarching discourse which posits an explicit link between Pancasila and Indonesian national identity. In the first instance, there are the "Secular Nationalists" who are uncomfortable with Pancasila's tight association with the oppressive excesses of the former New Order regime and yet regard Pancasila as a useful means of combating the influence of political Islam. In order to do so, this broad group either relies on emphasizing the first sila of Ketuhanan yang Maha Esa or, if they are unwilling to explicitly employ the language of Pancasila, they may instead refer to the values contained within Pancasila in terms of human rights, universal equality, etc. Confronting the "Secular Nationalists" are two broad groups, both of which also broadly identify with Pancasila. On the one side are "Pancasila Islamists" who view themselves as both Muslims and Indonesian nationalists and have little trouble interpreting each of the as expressions of values that exist within Islam. On the other side are "Pancasila Nationalists" who look to a more "original" version of Pancasila before it became polluted by political interests. At its core, this latter group seeks to place equal emphasis on all five silas in order to restore Pancasila as part of the jiwa of Indonesia, as "Pancasila kita". At an even more fundamental level, there are discourses present in Indonesia that question the very relevance of Pancasila as a manifestation of Bhinneka Tunggal Ika. Campaigns for an Islamic state are representative of this. Intriguingly, there are also some who assert that Pancasila has become so corrupted by political interests that Indonesians need to be brave enough to risk replacing Pancasila with an alternative ideology, one that better functions as a legitimate articulation of "unity in diversity". What this "chaos" of competing discourses demonstrates is that there is still a real need for ideological debate on the relationship between Pancasila and "Indonesian-ness". With so many discourses vying for dominance such a dialogue is essential. As in the early years of independent Indonesia this is the ti
[wanita-muslimah] Ngruki Islamic school denies Jakarta bomber is its alumnus
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/07/19/ngruki-islamic-school-denies-jakarta-bomber-its-alumnus.html Ngruki Islamic school denies Jakarta bomber is its alumnus The Jakarta Post , Jakarta | Sun, 07/19/2009 4:47 PM | National Vice Dean of the Ngruki Islamic boarding school Muhammad Sholeh Ibrahim denied on Sunday that Nur Hasbi or Nurdin Azin, one of two bombers at the JW Marriot and Ritz-Carlton hotels, graduated from the school. "We never had him as a student," he said as quoted by Tempointeraktif.com He called on Indonesian Moslem Movement chairman Abdurrahman Assegaf to withdraw his statement and apologize to the school. "Otherwise, we will take a necessary legal action," he said. However, Sydney Jones, director of the International Crisis Group earlier also said Nur Hasbi was a friend of Asmar Latin Sani, a suicide bomber in the first Marriot bombing in 2003. They both graduated from the Ngruki Islamic boarding school in Solo, Central Java, in 1995, she said. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] School where Muslim kids are happy to sing Hindu hymns
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=HomePage&id=b4d4699f-3b0a-450e-8a19-36f9ce6dc9fa&Headline=School+where+Muslim+kids+are+happy+to+sing+Hindu+hymns School where Muslim kids are happy to sing Hindu hymns Padma Shastri, Hindustan Times Indore, July 20, 2009 First Published: 00:31 IST(20/7/2009) Last Updated: 00:57 IST(20/7/2009) Sanskrit verses are part of the daily prayer for Mantasha Khan (class IX), Inayat Ali (class VIII), Jofisha Khan (class IV) and 30 other Muslim students who study at the Shaishvika Vidyalaya, a high school with 269 students run by the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). It's not just the Medha Suktam (a Vedic hymn recited to strengthen the intellect) that they recite with perfect diction but they also chant the Gayatri mantra, Surya mantra and shlokas (hymns) from the Bhagvad Gita with equal ease, besides the Ramcharitmanas and the Hanumanchalisa. "Afsha Sultana Khokhar who passed from the school three years ago, excelled in recitation of Sanskrit hymns, including Ganesh Atharvashirsha (recited to invoke Lord Ganesh) and won prizes," the school's Sanskrit teacher Jagrati Shrivastava recalled. And their parents never objected. One of the parents -Shakil Khan -has been encouraging his community members to send their children to this school, founded in 1975. And the results are encouraging. In 1996, it had four Muslim students. This year, out of 50 students who got admission, 25 were from minority community. "None from our community has problems sending children to the RSS school. They are gaining knowledge. The school fee is reasonable (Rs 400 a month). And teachers impart good values. Students there are cultured," remarked ex-student and cloth merchant Lal Ali, 38, whose sons Fashil and Kamran study in the school. Another ex-student and award-winning painter Riyazuddin Patel says, "My ideology has matured after studying there. What I learned is discipline, which is akin to the RSS." Not that city's other RSS-run schools don't have minority students but Shaishvika Vidyalaya has the most. The management didn't face any problems from parents even though the school is surrounded by Muslim-dominant localities. "Parents are very cooperative. We're an educational institution and don't promote communalism," said school principal Aparna Modak. It was only when girls were asked to put on bindis that Muslim parents requested they do so only during school hours. "But then we dropped the regulation," said Modak, proud of the students the school has produced. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Jakarta attacks may be linked to Bali bombers: official
http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Indonesia/10332777.html Jakarta attacks may be linked to Bali bombers: official Bloomberg Published: July 19, 2009, 10:56 Jakarta: The bombings at the Jakarta JW Marriott and Ritz Carlton hotels that killed nine people, including two suspected attackers, are probably linked with the mastermind of the 2002 Bali blasts, an Indonesian official said. The attacks two days ago bear the hallmark of tactics and explosive devices used by Malaysian terrorist Noordin Mohammad Top, said Ansyaad Mbai, who coordinates Indonesian counter-terrorism efforts. Police identified one of the bombers, and determined that both were members of Jemaah Islamiyah, which the government blames for the Bali attacks, Agence France-Presse reported Sunday, citing national police spokesman Nanan Soekarna. President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono kept the nation of 227 million people free of attacks for four years by capturing militants and giving tuition aid for the children of reformed terrorists. Top, a former member of a group linked to Al Qaida, was probably looking for the right moment to strike, such as the presidential election and a planned trip by the Manchester United Football Club, said Mbai. "They wanted to send a strong message to show that their capability and spirit remains strong," Mbai, who isn't directly involved in the investigations, said yesterday in an interview in Jakarta. "Using the Manchester United event, they wanted to attract international attention." The British soccer team scrapped its first trip to Indonesia because of the attacks, which came nine days after the presidential elections. Yudhoyono, a 59-year-old former general, was re-elected with 62 percent of the votes, according to the latest tally by the election commission. Investigators are trying to determine which group sent the two suicide bombers to the hotels, where they stayed as guests before making the attacks, Indonesian Police Chief Bambang Hendarso Danuri told reporters July 17. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Anak Jalanan
Anak Jalanan ditempa kerasnya kehidupan anak kecil berangkat dewasa mengejar bisunya kenangan tersimpan rapi dalam puisi siapa pernah melupakannya nyanyian rindu srigala malam membelit segala impianmu muara dari semua kesunyian : anak jalanan Amsterdam, 19/07/2009 http://herilatief.wordpress.com/ http://akarrumputliar.wordpress.com/ http://sastrapembebasan.wordpress.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
Assalamu'alaikum, lama sekali sy ga buka milis ternyata rame, banget yach. salam manis untuk Mas DWS, Mbak Ferona, jika masih ada, Mba Riyanti, Mbak Dona, Pak Cojim, Mas Ayeye, Mbak Yasmin, Pak KM,Kang Heri Permana, dll. Wah negara kita selalu dinamin yach.. ada petasan lagi meledak... Hmm... implikasinya kita teh kudu waspada sebagai umat beragama jangan ampe dikelabui oleh syetan-syetan yang reinkarnasi menitis pada manusia. Setiap kejadian pastinya ada skenarionya.ada maksud-maksud tersembunyi,entah itu untuk mengadu domba,entah untuk menjatuhkan,entah untuk kolonialisme,pengusaan ekonomi, melanggengkan exploitasi alam Indonesia, entah untuk pembuangan senjata juga bisa dimungkinkan terjadi terprisme. Semoga kita semua semakin pinter dan arif dalam menyikapi semua yang terjadi. Insya Alloh bahwa Alloh ga pernah salah menurunkan azab ato musibah. perlahan tapi pasti optimisme bahwa kebenaran pasti terungkap.tapi kitapun harus ingat bahwa kebatilan dan kebenaran akan senantiasa ada sampai kiamat. Hanacaraka datasawala padajayana magabathanga. Salam manis, Dendicute77 --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Mia wrote: From: Mia Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta? To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 12:01 AM Bom bunuh diri itu sudah confirm, kan? Artinya motifnya kekerasan atas nama agama. Pak DWS bukannya bilang nggak make sense bom bunuh diri itu karena politik pilpres, atau yang lain bilang kasus freeport. Saya menambahkan kalau bunuh diri itu sudah confirm, motif lain gugur. Psikologisnya adalah, dalam human tragedy reaksi kita bisa macem2, justru karena pelakunya kita sendiri terhadap sesama, kita jatuh pada black humor. Saya kaget juga denger pidatonya pak SBY, tapi yah he is entitled to his own opinion, (yang sekaligus menunjukkan kualitasnya ternyata sampe di situ saja). Atas kejadian ini kalo nggak salah baca, rasanya kemarin reaksi kita di dunia nyata nggak seperti dulu, artinya tetep ada semacam keyakinan bahwa everything will be alright. Tapi yang mengagetkan bagi saya justru komentar beberapa pejabat, termasuk SBY, yang kemudian mengundang reaksi lain. Kesimpulan saya sbb: - Ummat Islam masih dalam tahap denial, dan itu mengeras dan menyusup kemana-mana. Ini memang masalahnya ummat Islam sedunia, dan kronis. - Militerism adalah masalah lokal Indonesia, dimana fraksi2 itu memainkan kartu Islam untuk kepentingan mereka. Ini termasuk masalah good governance, masalah lokal Indonesia. Say no to violence! salam Mia y 21 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Jilbab dan pengalaman pribadi -
Assalamu'alaikum, Ketaatan itu dasarnya dari hati, jadi tidak lantas wanita pake jilbab lantas perilakunya jadi baik. jadi ciri wanita solehah,dll. ga menjadi tolok ukur sebagai wanita muslim yang taat biarawati juga menutup aurat, bahkan sekarang ini jilbab lebih menjadi trends.modis,bisnis. Tapi yach secara fisik wanita berjilbab cukup baik bila dibanding dengan yang tidak. akan tetapi tiu tidak cukup bila sikap dan perilaku tidak juga dirubah.ibadah bukan hanya lahir tapi juga batinpun harus diikutkan. Salam manis, --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Mia wrote: From: Mia Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Jilbab dan pengalaman pribadi - To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 3:00 AM Pak Saeful, Aku langsung mau setuju saja tadinya blas, tapi ada yang ngeganjal, aku juga nggak tau sortingnya gimana. Bapak bilang "seorang muslimah yang taat sudah mengerti tentang fungsi dan kewajiban menutup aurat" dan "ketika jilbab beralih menjadi peningkatan ketaqwaan, itu benar" Rancu nih. Kalau jilbab itu adalah peningkatan ketaqwaan karena muslimah taat tahu kewajibannya menutup aurat..., lalu apanya yang salah kalau kita pingin melihat indikator hasil dari "peningkatan ketaqwaan dari muslimah taat" itu? Ini mungkin sebabnya mba Mei yang bilang bahwa jilbab itu ukuran ketaatan, jadinya blio terkaget2 melihat temennya yang jilbabers begini-begitu melanggar moral dan kepantasan itu sendiri. Integrity at stake? Arcon bilang, dirinya merasa berat dengan atribut2 ketaqwaan itu, jadinya dia malah merasa jauh dari khusu. Khusu ato nggak, aku lagi ngebayangin Arcon berjenggot, bercingkrang. ..:-) salam Mia Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] 30 Hari Menjelang Ajal Tiba
Banyak orang merasa tersentuh dengan berita kematiannya Michael Jackson (Jacko), bahkan berita ini telah menjadi berita yang paling menghebohkan dalam tahun ini, melebihi daripada berita-berita lainnya. Walaupun demikian cobalah renungkan oleh anda sendiri, apakah Michael Jackson ada jauh lebih penting daripada diri Anda sendiri ? Kenapa kematian dia menjadi pusat perhatian Anda, sedangkan hari kematian diri sendiri tidak pernah terpikirkan oleh Anda. Setiap manusia di kolong langit ini tidak lama lagi akan mengalami nasib yang sama ialah MATI ! Bagi Jacko sudah terlambat, tidak ada lagi yang bisa dilakukan olehnya, tetapi kebalikannya: "Apa yang akan Anda lakukan seandainya Anda di vonis oleh Dr Anda, bahwa masa hidup Anda hanya tinggal 30 hari lagi ?" Saya yakin selainnya berita ini akan membuat anda menjadi Schock berat, tetapi juga akan membuat anda mulai berpikir dan mulai merenungkan apa yang masih bisa dilakukan di dalam kurun waktu yang sangat singkat ini. Seharusnya kita bersyukur, karena masih diberikan kesempatan 30 hari lagi untuk mengoreksi ataupun memperbaiki sisa hidup kita, dibandingkan dengan mereka yang langsung mati seketika itu juga, entah karena korban Bom seperti di Hotel J.W. Marriott kemarin ini ataupun karena musibah lainnya. Lebih dari 80% orang-orang yang pernah mengalami serangan jantung - stroke, berusaha untuk merubah pola hidupnya, misalnya dengan merobah pola makan maupun melakukan olahraga yang teratur. Mereka berkeinginan untuk memperpanjang masa hidupnya jadi mirip "Body Repair" githu. Beda dengan mereka yang telah mendapatkan vonis Kematian; dimana masa hidupnya hanya tinggal hitungan hari saja. Mereka tidak perlu melakukan Body Repair lagi, melainkan berusaha untuk melakukan "Soul Repair" atau apa yang masih bisa dilakukan untuk jiwanya agar dapat memberikan sedikit makna di dalam kehidupan ini. Pada saat anda melakukan Body Repair, anda akan lebih memusatkan dan mengutamakan diri sendiri, tetapi kebalikannya pada saat anda melakukan Soul Repair, disitu anda akan mulai mengesampingkan keperluan maupun kebutuhan pribadi sendiri. Disitu kita mulai berpikir, bahwa hidup ini bukannya hanya sekedar untuk memuaskan dan memenuhi kebutuhan jasmaniah saja, melainkan ada hal-hal yang jauh lebih penting di dalam kehidupan ini. Pada umumnya kita lebih mementingkan hal-hal yang nampak di kasat mata, tetapi dimana kita telah di vonis, bahwa masa hidup kita hanya tinggal 30 hari lagi saja, maka hal-hal yang nampak tsb tidak dibutuhkan lagi, misalnya harta maupun tahta. Disitu kita mulai sadar bahwa keluarga kita itu ada jauh lebih penting dan jauh lebih berharga daripada hanya sekedar mengejar tahta dan harta. Disitu kita mulai sadar bahwa waktu itu sangat berharga daripada hanya sekedar dibuang begitu saja untuk nonton sinetron Manohara berjam-jam dalam sehari ataupun berinternet ria meng-update Facebook maupun imej kita. Pada saat itu pula mulai timbul keinginan kita, bukan hanya sekedar untuk memperbaiki hubungan keluarga saja, melainkan juga keinginan untuk memperbaiki hubungan dengan Sang Pencipta yang selama ini kita abaikan. Yang menjadi pertanyaan kenapa kita baru mulai merubah pola hidup kita setelah kita kena Stroke atau serangkan jantung bukan jauh-jauh hari sebelumnya? Kenapa kita mulai ingat dan baru ingin memperbaiki hubungan dengan keluarga maupun Sang Pencipta setelah kita di vonis mati dahulu? Bukan sebelumnya. Pertanyaan yang ingin saya ajukan kepada para pembaca semua entah agama apapun yang Anda anut termasuk atheist sekalipun: "Apa yang akan Anda lakukan apabila masa hidup Anda ini hanya tinggal 30 hari saja?" Untuk ini mang Ucup ingin mengundang Anda semua untuk melakukan gladi resik dan berusaha untuk mempraktekannya dalam masa 30 hari mendatang ini seakan-akan masa hidup Anda ini akan berakhir 30 hari mulai dari sekarang, sambil menikmati hidup ini agar bisa menjadi lebih hidup. Dalam masa 30 hari mendatang ini; mang Ucup akan menulis setiap dua hari sekali berturut-turut gagasan-gagasan apa saja yang bisa kita lakukan selama 30 hari masa hidup terakhir kita ini. Bahkan untuk ini saya ingin mengundang Anda untuk turut mendiskusikannya dan juga memberikan saran maupun kesan anda, selain di milis ini juga di milis mang Ucup. Apabila Anda belum bergabung silahkan kirim email kosong untuk bergabung ke: mang-ucup-subscribeyahoogroups.com Ajaklah rekan-rekan lainnya untuk bergabung dalam gerakan "Menikmati Hidup 30 Hari" dengan men-fwd artikel ini kepada rekan-rekan lainnya. Mang Ucup Email: mang.ucupgmail.com Facebook
[wanita-muslimah] Twitteran {Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?}
2009/7/17 ritajkt : > Indonesia unite, ayo yang twitteran, let's join #Indonesiaunite# against > terrorism! > (tapi gw jg belum ngeh sih gimana caranya :)) Makasih infonya mbak. Rupanya sekarang twitter merambah juga ke para netter indonesia. Saya (twitter.com/soegardi) sudah coba lihat-lihat #indonesiaunite ternyata topiknya macam-macam bukan sekedar terorisme. Lumayan untuk cari teman dan diskusi. Caranya sih gampang aja - join twitter.com - cari (follow) teman - search "#indonesiaunite" - kalau ada yang menarik "Reply" atau "Retweet" (kayak forward) Dan jangan lupa - follow twitter.com/wanita_muslimah - search juga topik "#milisWM" salam twit-twit,
[wanita-muslimah] Pakistan not under threat from India: Musharraf
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/07-pakistan-not-under-threat-from-india-musharraf-ha-08 Pakistan not under threat from India: Musharraf Friday, 17 Jul, 2009 | 09:55 PM PST | ISLAMABAD: The greatest threats to Pakistan come from the Taliban, al-Qaida and home grown extremists and not from India, former Pakistani president and army chief Pervez Musharraf told an Indian television news channel. The United States would like the Pakistan army to be less preoccupied by any potential threat from India and concentrate on destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda forces ranging across the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. 'Obviously at this moment there is no war scenario and there are no threats at this moment,' Musharraf said of India during an interview with CNN-IBN that was recorded on Wednesday in London and will be aired on Saturday. Kashmir is at the core of a decades-old dispute between Pakistan and India and the cause of two of their three wars since their independence from British rule in 1947. Both became nuclear armed states in 1998, and having gone to the brink of a fourth war in 2002, they embarked on a peace process two years later. 'I don't think India is posing any offensive move or offensive attitude,' he said, according to a transcript of the interview given to Reuters. Musharraf said threat perceptions shifted according to circumstances, citing the tensions that ballooned after last November's attack on the Indian city of Mumbai by Islamist militants from Pakistan. Musharraf resigned last August in the face of an impending impeachment motion. He left Pakistan over a month ago. He told CNN-IBN that his government had been close to settling several territorial disputes with India in 2007, but his own domestic political difficulties stopped the two sides from sealing any agreement. India called for a pause in a five-year-old peace process following the Mumbai attacks. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani agreed in Egypt this week that there should be a resumption of dialogue, but Singh said the peace process would not be resumed until Pakistan brings the Mumbai culprits to account [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Jakarta bomb investigators point to terror group JI
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bff50a6c-745c-11de-8ad5-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1 Jakarta bomb investigators point to terror group JI By John Aglionby in Jakarta Published: July 19 2009 13:43 | Last updated: July 19 2009 16:32 Indonesian police expressed increasing confidence on Sunday that regional Islamist terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah carried out last week's double suicide bombing in two Jakarta luxury hotels as concerns mounted about President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's crisis management in the wake of the attacks. National police spokesman Inspector General Nanan Soekarna said investigators were now "almost certain" militants operating under Noordin Top, JI's military commander, perpetrated Friday's near-simultaneous bombings of the JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton hotels that killed nine people. EDITOR'S CHOICE Audio slideshow: John Aglionby on whether the bombings will hit investment - Jul-17 Home-grown terrorists prime Jakarta suspects - Jul-17 Hotel explosions weigh on Indonesia stocks - Jul-17 Suicide bombs kill 9 in Jakarta hotels - Jul-17 Indonesia rising - Jul-09 "The clues are still being pieced together but they're pointing in that direction," he said. "Once we've identified the bombers' bodies we'll be able to reach a clear conclusion." JI is considered Al-Qaeda's main south-east Asian affiliate. It was thought to have been severely crippled following the arrest and prosecution of several hundred militants and the absence of major attacks since 2005. The seven other fatalities include three Australians and a New Zealander. They were attending a regular executive networking breakfast at the Marriott hotel within metres of where the bomb was detonated. Speculation is mounting the Marriott suicide bomber was Nur Hasbi, who was in the same school class as Asmar Latin Sani, the suicide bomber in the 2003 attack on the Jakarta Marriott and is known to have been in Mr Noordin's inner circle since 2005. Sidney Jones, a JI expert with the International Crisis Group think-tank, said: "If it's Nur Hasbi then that would clinch that this is the Noordin network. It's very hard to look beyond Noordin now." Mr Noordin is believed to have been a central JI figure for years. The school Mr Nur Hasbi and Mr Asmar attended was the Ngruki Islamic boarding school run by Abu Bakar Bashir, JI's co-founder and, until a few years ago, its spiritual leader. Concern, meanwhile, grew over Mr Yudhoyono's reaction to the bombings. On Friday he made an emotional speech in which he implicated his opponents in the attacks and warned of a campaign to destabilise the nation. He cited as evidence photos of masked men shooting at a target covered in a picture of his face that were seized from the house of a recently arrested radical. Ms Jones, however, is confident that the photos were taken in 2004. "Yes it was a new arrest but not new photos," she said. Politicians and diplomats are saying Mr Yudhoyono's judgment must be questioned in the wake of the speech. Fuad Bawazier, a key aide to Jusuf Kalla, the vice-president, during Mr Kalla's failed attempt to win this month's presidential election, said the president should not have made such comments. "It didn't create calm, rather it was accusatory speculation all over the place," he said after visiting a hospital where some of the 53 injured in the bombings are being treated. Some diplomats said the speech revealed a new, worrying, side to Mr Yudhoyono's character. "We always knew he was thin-skinned but this shows he's highly emotional and maybe unreliable in a crisis," one said. "If I were a foreign investor I'd be more worried about the speech than the bombings." Mr Yudhoyono's aides have tried to downplay the speech. They have insisted the usually calm president is on top of the investigation but are also saying there is mounting evidence of "escalating illegal activities to trigger unrest". [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Where have all the big fish gone?
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=124678&d=19&m=7&y=2009&pix=opinion.jpg&category=Opinion Sunday 19 July 2009 (26 Rajab 1430) Where have all the big fish gone? Iman Kurdi | Arab News The only time I ever think about fish is when I say to myself: "I should eat more fish". I have never wondered how fish feel, or whether there are enough fish to go round, or how they are caught and certainly have never felt any sympathy for fish. Whereas I cannot eat a lamb if I have seen it alive - hypocrisy I know - I feel no such qualms about a fish. It is after all a fish. But despite being thoroughly uninterested in fish until the moment it lands on my plate, preferably drenched in lemon juice and flavored with herbs, I have found fish issues encroaching on my consciousness. First, there were the jellyfish. Again, for years I swam in the sea, happily oblivious to the existence of the creatures. And then I got stung! Believe me it hurts. It burns, it stings and it lasts. The Mediterranean has swarms of them. There have been days when beaches are full and the sea is empty, people standing at the shore looking at the sea with longing. I counted eight jellyfish in one square meter of sea the other day. Where do they come from? To see one every now and then was once normal, but to see them in such dense clusters is a recent phenomenon. Then I came across several restaurants proudly announcing on their menus that they no longer serve tuna. Some no longer serve it in the form of a tuna and cucumber sandwich which, though one of my favorites, is no great loss. But when I came across sushi bars that have stopped serving tuna, I was seriously concerned. Sushi without tuna! What is the world coming to? It seems the two are linked. On one end of the chain, you have the blue-fin tuna and at the other end those nasty jellyfish. Blue-fin tuna are in danger of extinction. The World Wildlife Fund for Nature predicts that unless action is taken now, blue-fin tuna will be wiped out in the Mediterranean by 2012. The blue-fin is the biggest of the tunas, and the most expensive. It is a predator, or as I see it a vacuum cleaner for smaller fish and jellyfish. Dramatic falls in blue-fin tuna stocks equal dramatic increases in smaller fish and jellyfish. The balance has fundamentally changed. But it's not just blue-fin tuna. Stocks - of almost every fish I can name and a good many others I can't - have been decimated. The first to go were the big fish. Just consider this: the stock of large fish in the seas and oceans of our planet is now 10 percent of what it was 150 years ago! That's a massive 90 percent decline. Back then, fishing was done by fishermen going out in their boats and coming back with a local catch that they sold right there in the harbor on their return. But fishing is no longer that romantic ideal. Fishing is now a multibillion dollar international industry just like everything else we eat. That industrial fishing and industrial scale fish farms have resulted in over-fishing should not come as a surprise to anyone. That blue-fin tuna, the most expensive fish in the world, should be over-fished is not in the least surprising either. But the scale of it is. Could it really be that blue-fin tuna could be extinct in my lifetime? If nothing is done yes, but the campaign to ban the sale of blue-fin tuna is gaining momentum. Both France and the UK are now supporting Monaco's move to have blue-fin tuna listed as an endangered species; if they gain enough support, the ban could be in place by next summer. But that's at the governmental level. As a consumer, I have the power to choose what I eat. Maybe I should make a concerted effort to eat fish from sustainable stocks. So no blue-fin tuna then. Does that mean no tuna at all? Apparently not, yellow-fin and skipjack tuna are OK so long as they are net caught or line caught and dolphin friendly. Trawling through the listings of fish to eat and fish not to eat, I found myself increasingly confused. It's not just what kind of fish but how it was caught and where. And then my doctor added mercury levels to the mix. He gave me the good old advice that I should eat more fish, and oily fish in particular, adding as an aside that I should avoid fish with high mercury levels. Which fish is that I said? Here's a rule of thumb, he replied, avoid the big fish and choose the smaller fish. Standing at the fishmongers it was all too complicated. Surely buying food should not be so difficult. In the end I decided to take the old-fashioned route. So I asked the fishmonger which fish he recommended? Which is the freshest and the tastiest? And I followed his advice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
Kuanggap Pak Wikan lagi role-play. Kalo bener ada teori konspirasi seperti ini, mesti pikir2 lagi. Pertimbangkan ini, saya sharing sedikit. Dari beberapa kejadian yang menimpa kami, apa yang saya lihat dengan mata kepala sendiri, dan diskusi dg teman2 dari Asia, ringkasnya begini. Jaringan hardcore terorisme di Asia termasuk Sri Lanka, Filipina, Aceh. Selain di negerinya sendiri koneksi dan training ground lain di Timur Tengah termasuk Afganistan. Bisnisnya jual senjata dan drug. Malaysia jadi salah satu hub (selain pintu Timur seperti Sulawesi Utara), makanya Pemerintah Malaysia pernah men-sweeping komunitas Aceh di Malaysia. Kalau MISALNYA Azhari/Noordin dkk berasal dari intel Malaysia, ya nggak mustahil juga, semacam splinter, dan bukan berarti dari Pemerintahnya. Intel Indonesia juga gitu, tapi beraninya sama orang sendiri. Pemerintah Malaysia sekular dengan sikap victorian dan repressif yang membuat fundamentalisme tumbuh subur underground dan berdampak ke negeri tetangga, yang lebih gampang dibobol. Modalnya dibantu dengan basis koneksi finasial Malaysia yang sudah dari dulu dan jauh lebih erat dengan TimTeng, ketimbang koneksi Indonesia-TimTeng. Salam Mia --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Mia" wrote: > > Wah, Wikan serius ya? > Ada dua kemungkinan menurut Pak Wikan, ini informasi dari intel kita, atau > mungkin teori konspirasi bahwa Pemerintah dan intel Malaysia melakukan > pengeboman di negara kita, supaya negara kita nggak maju? > > Kerjasama intel ya bukan berarti mbocorin rahasia, gimana sih argumennya. > > salam > Mia > > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Wikan Danar Sunindyo > wrote: > > > > lha gimana mau kerjasama mbak mia? > > justru intel malaysia ini yang menyusup ke indonesia dan melakukan > > pengeboman > > sebagai contoh Dr Azhari itu intel Malaysia yang disusupkan ke Indonesia > > Noor Din M Top itu anak buah didikannya Dr Azhari > > kalau intel Malaysia bikin kerjasama resmi sama intel Indonesia > > malah tambah hancur Indonesia karena info2 rahasia Indonesia bisa > > dengan mudah diketahui oleh pihak Malaysia > > > > salam, > > -- > > wikan > > > > 2009/7/19 Mia : > > > > > > > > > Good point, Pak Wikan - untuk implementasi kerja intel itu. Tapi kalau > > > pengumuman kerjasamanya, apa ini bukan info publik? > > > > > > Contohnya, siapa itu dulu teroris yang dicari2 Amrik dan mereka minta > > > Indonesia kerjasama. > > > > > > Maksudnya Pak Wikan apakah ada info memang ada kerjasama? Tapi dari email > > > sebelumnya Pak Wikan mengimplikasikan nggak ada kerjasama. Apalagi dari > > > pidato SBY yang malah nggak bikin adem. > > > > > > Kalau bener ada kerjasama, ini mesti diketahui publik tentu saja bukan > > > cara > > > kerjanya. Kalo memang bener ada sukurlah, mungkin saja saya ketinggalan > > > berita. > > >
[wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
Wah, Wikan serius ya? Ada dua kemungkinan menurut Pak Wikan, ini informasi dari intel kita, atau mungkin teori konspirasi bahwa Pemerintah dan intel Malaysia melakukan pengeboman di negara kita, supaya negara kita nggak maju? Kerjasama intel ya bukan berarti mbocorin rahasia, gimana sih argumennya. salam Mia --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Wikan Danar Sunindyo wrote: > > lha gimana mau kerjasama mbak mia? > justru intel malaysia ini yang menyusup ke indonesia dan melakukan pengeboman > sebagai contoh Dr Azhari itu intel Malaysia yang disusupkan ke Indonesia > Noor Din M Top itu anak buah didikannya Dr Azhari > kalau intel Malaysia bikin kerjasama resmi sama intel Indonesia > malah tambah hancur Indonesia karena info2 rahasia Indonesia bisa > dengan mudah diketahui oleh pihak Malaysia > > salam, > -- > wikan > > 2009/7/19 Mia : > > > > > > Good point, Pak Wikan - untuk implementasi kerja intel itu. Tapi kalau > > pengumuman kerjasamanya, apa ini bukan info publik? > > > > Contohnya, siapa itu dulu teroris yang dicari2 Amrik dan mereka minta > > Indonesia kerjasama. > > > > Maksudnya Pak Wikan apakah ada info memang ada kerjasama? Tapi dari email > > sebelumnya Pak Wikan mengimplikasikan nggak ada kerjasama. Apalagi dari > > pidato SBY yang malah nggak bikin adem. > > > > Kalau bener ada kerjasama, ini mesti diketahui publik tentu saja bukan cara > > kerjanya. Kalo memang bener ada sukurlah, mungkin saja saya ketinggalan > > berita. >
Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
lha gimana mau kerjasama mbak mia? justru intel malaysia ini yang menyusup ke indonesia dan melakukan pengeboman sebagai contoh Dr Azhari itu intel Malaysia yang disusupkan ke Indonesia Noor Din M Top itu anak buah didikannya Dr Azhari kalau intel Malaysia bikin kerjasama resmi sama intel Indonesia malah tambah hancur Indonesia karena info2 rahasia Indonesia bisa dengan mudah diketahui oleh pihak Malaysia salam, -- wikan 2009/7/19 Mia : > > > Good point, Pak Wikan - untuk implementasi kerja intel itu. Tapi kalau > pengumuman kerjasamanya, apa ini bukan info publik? > > Contohnya, siapa itu dulu teroris yang dicari2 Amrik dan mereka minta > Indonesia kerjasama. > > Maksudnya Pak Wikan apakah ada info memang ada kerjasama? Tapi dari email > sebelumnya Pak Wikan mengimplikasikan nggak ada kerjasama. Apalagi dari > pidato SBY yang malah nggak bikin adem. > > Kalau bener ada kerjasama, ini mesti diketahui publik tentu saja bukan cara > kerjanya. Kalo memang bener ada sukurlah, mungkin saja saya ketinggalan > berita.
[wanita-muslimah] Re: Ledakan di Jakarta?
Good point, Pak Wikan - untuk implementasi kerja intel itu. Tapi kalau pengumuman kerjasamanya, apa ini bukan info publik? Contohnya, siapa itu dulu teroris yang dicari2 Amrik dan mereka minta Indonesia kerjasama. Maksudnya Pak Wikan apakah ada info memang ada kerjasama? Tapi dari email sebelumnya Pak Wikan mengimplikasikan nggak ada kerjasama. Apalagi dari pidato SBY yang malah nggak bikin adem. Kalau bener ada kerjasama, ini mesti diketahui publik tentu saja bukan cara kerjanya. Kalo memang bener ada sukurlah, mungkin saja saya ketinggalan berita. salam Mia --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Wikan Danar Sunindyo wrote: > > mbak mia > namanya intel kalau kerja ya diam2 > kalau bilang2 sama mbak mia > namanya bukan intel > tapi indomie telor :) > > salam, > -- > wikan > > 2009/7/19 Mia : > > > > > > Faktor Malaysia bikin aku heran. Apa aku nggak ngikutin berita, atau > > kerjasama intellijen Indo-Malay emang dirahasiakan? Tapi kemarin baru denger > > Malaysia tawarin bantu cariin Nurdin/Nurhasbi, apakah itu diterima? > > > > Kalau Malaysia dan Indonesia kerjasama cari bandit itu kan bagus sekali. > > Kenapa juga nggak dari dulu? Yang bikin aku heran, kayaknya nggak pernah > > kedengeran Indonesia pro-aktif menyusuri koneksi Malaysia ini. Intellijen, > > militer dan polisi kita jago kandang ya, beraninya sama orang sendiri. Ato > > mereka nggak pe-de? > > > > Menyalahkan orang lain mengalihkan kita dari pokok persoalan, kitanya yang > > mesti pro-aktif, berhasil ato nggak paling tidak tugas sudah dikerjain. >
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Arcon, menurut argumen Puteri bom Bali juga kekanak2an, karena pake ngebom dua tempat, buat apa? Jadi kesimpulannya bom Bali juga bukan teroris tapi politis. Arcon mesti memahami logika argumen Puteri dong... Tapi Puteri bilang "(dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh diri}", coba Arcon tanya Puteri, itu maksudnya apa. salam Mia --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Ari Condro wrote: > > teori putri jelas tertolak dgn sendirinya. > > di bali tuh bom diledakkan di dua tempat yg berdekatan. > > > > 2009/7/19 izzuddin al qassam : > > > > > > hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja > > BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh > > diri) > > kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat dunia > > tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. > > I dont know its true or not. > > Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang sama > > apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat > > kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri > > > > seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di > > dekatnya > > jelas kasus ini politis banget. > > ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir ada > > benarnya > > isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi > > serius... > > > > yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri > > jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap teroris > > selama ini > > > > :putri > > > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Wikan Danar Sunindyo wrote: > > > > From: Wikan Danar Sunindyo > > > > Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Ledakan di Jakarta? > > To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:44 AM > > > > > > > > gak ada hubungannya > > > > kenapa putri bisa berpikir seperti itu? > > > > salam, > > > > -- > > > > wikan > > > > 2009/7/17 izzuddin al qassam : > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> nggak tau kenapa put berfikir ini ada hubungannya sama kasus penembakan di > > > >> freeport yang masih diusut BIN > > > >> > > > >> menurut om-om disini gimana? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > salam, > Ari >
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mbak mia namanya intel kalau kerja ya diam2 kalau bilang2 sama mbak mia namanya bukan intel tapi indomie telor :) salam, -- wikan 2009/7/19 Mia : > > > Faktor Malaysia bikin aku heran. Apa aku nggak ngikutin berita, atau > kerjasama intellijen Indo-Malay emang dirahasiakan? Tapi kemarin baru denger > Malaysia tawarin bantu cariin Nurdin/Nurhasbi, apakah itu diterima? > > Kalau Malaysia dan Indonesia kerjasama cari bandit itu kan bagus sekali. > Kenapa juga nggak dari dulu? Yang bikin aku heran, kayaknya nggak pernah > kedengeran Indonesia pro-aktif menyusuri koneksi Malaysia ini. Intellijen, > militer dan polisi kita jago kandang ya, beraninya sama orang sendiri. Ato > mereka nggak pe-de? > > Menyalahkan orang lain mengalihkan kita dari pokok persoalan, kitanya yang > mesti pro-aktif, berhasil ato nggak paling tidak tugas sudah dikerjain.
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jelas negara malaysia negara boneka bikinan barat harus kita bubarkan mereka tidak ingin lihat orang muslim indonesia maju2 makanya malaysia nggak berani menentang kafirun inggris majikannya salam, -- wikan 2009/7/19 Ari Condro : > > > huss wikan, kalo kata aktipis muslim, kata kata wikan ini seperti yg > sudah kena cuci otak bangsa bangsa barat ajah. mereka kan mengadu > domba sesama negara muslim
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mungkin putri baca teori "petir tidak akan menyambar di dua tempat yang sama" padahal itu petir, bukan bom salam, -- wikan 2009/7/19 Ari Condro : > > > teori putri jelas tertolak dgn sendirinya. > > di bali tuh bom diledakkan di dua tempat yg berdekatan.
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Faktor Malaysia bikin aku heran. Apa aku nggak ngikutin berita, atau kerjasama intellijen Indo-Malay emang dirahasiakan? Tapi kemarin baru denger Malaysia tawarin bantu cariin Nurdin/Nurhasbi, apakah itu diterima? Kalau Malaysia dan Indonesia kerjasama cari bandit itu kan bagus sekali. Kenapa juga nggak dari dulu? Yang bikin aku heran, kayaknya nggak pernah kedengeran Indonesia pro-aktif menyusuri koneksi Malaysia ini. Intellijen, militer dan polisi kita jago kandang ya, beraninya sama orang sendiri. Ato mereka nggak pe-de? Menyalahkan orang lain mengalihkan kita dari pokok persoalan, kitanya yang mesti pro-aktif, berhasil ato nggak paling tidak tugas sudah dikerjain. salam Mia --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Ari Condro wrote: > > huss wikan, kalo kata aktipis muslim, kata kata wikan ini seperti yg > sudah kena cuci otak bangsa bangsa barat ajah. mereka kan mengadu > domba sesama negara muslim > > > > 2009/7/19 Wikan Danar Sunindyo : > > > > > > ini kerjaan orang malaysia kok > > ingat aja dulu Dr Azhari yang melakukan pemboman di mana2 > > terbukti dia adalah intelijen Malaysia yang disusupkan ke Indonesia > > untuk melakukan pengeboman di mana2 > > berikutnya adalah Noor Din M Top, temennya Dr Azhari juga yang sama2 > > orang Malaysia > > tujuannya satu, merusak nama baik Indonesia di dunia internasional > > mereka khawatir, kalau Indonesia bangkit, Malaysia akan jadi bangsa > > loser seperti dulu kala > > > > salam, > > -- > > wikan > > > > 2009/7/19 izzuddin al qassam : > > > >> > >> > >> hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja > >> BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh > >> diri) > >> kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat dunia > >> tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. > >> I dont know its true or not. > >> Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang > >> sama > >> apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat > >> kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri > >> > >> seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di > >> dekatnya > >> jelas kasus ini politis banget. > >> ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir ada > >> benarnya > >> isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi > >> serius... > >> > >> yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri > >> jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap > >> teroris > >> selama ini > > > > > > > > -- > salam, > Ari >
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teori putri jelas tertolak dgn sendirinya. di bali tuh bom diledakkan di dua tempat yg berdekatan. 2009/7/19 izzuddin al qassam : > > > hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja > BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh > diri) > kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat dunia > tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. > I dont know its true or not. > Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang sama > apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat > kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri > > seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di > dekatnya > jelas kasus ini politis banget. > ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir ada > benarnya > isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi > serius... > > yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri > jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap teroris > selama ini > > :putri > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Wikan Danar Sunindyo wrote: > > From: Wikan Danar Sunindyo > > Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Ledakan di Jakarta? > To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:44 AM > > > > gak ada hubungannya > > kenapa putri bisa berpikir seperti itu? > > salam, > > -- > > wikan > > 2009/7/17 izzuddin al qassam : > >> > >> > >> nggak tau kenapa put berfikir ini ada hubungannya sama kasus penembakan di > >> freeport yang masih diusut BIN > >> > >> menurut om-om disini gimana? > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > -- salam, Ari
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huss wikan, kalo kata aktipis muslim, kata kata wikan ini seperti yg sudah kena cuci otak bangsa bangsa barat ajah. mereka kan mengadu domba sesama negara muslim 2009/7/19 Wikan Danar Sunindyo : > > > ini kerjaan orang malaysia kok > ingat aja dulu Dr Azhari yang melakukan pemboman di mana2 > terbukti dia adalah intelijen Malaysia yang disusupkan ke Indonesia > untuk melakukan pengeboman di mana2 > berikutnya adalah Noor Din M Top, temennya Dr Azhari juga yang sama2 > orang Malaysia > tujuannya satu, merusak nama baik Indonesia di dunia internasional > mereka khawatir, kalau Indonesia bangkit, Malaysia akan jadi bangsa > loser seperti dulu kala > > salam, > -- > wikan > > 2009/7/19 izzuddin al qassam : > >> >> >> hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja >> BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh >> diri) >> kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat dunia >> tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. >> I dont know its true or not. >> Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang >> sama >> apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat >> kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri >> >> seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di >> dekatnya >> jelas kasus ini politis banget. >> ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir ada >> benarnya >> isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi >> serius... >> >> yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri >> jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap >> teroris >> selama ini > > -- salam, Ari
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ini kerjaan orang malaysia kok ingat aja dulu Dr Azhari yang melakukan pemboman di mana2 terbukti dia adalah intelijen Malaysia yang disusupkan ke Indonesia untuk melakukan pengeboman di mana2 berikutnya adalah Noor Din M Top, temennya Dr Azhari juga yang sama2 orang Malaysia tujuannya satu, merusak nama baik Indonesia di dunia internasional mereka khawatir, kalau Indonesia bangkit, Malaysia akan jadi bangsa loser seperti dulu kala salam, -- wikan 2009/7/19 izzuddin al qassam : > > > hanya feeling om...put melihat dari kacamata seorang anak kecil aja > BIN semakin digenjot setelah kasus Freeport (dan jelas itu bukan bom bunuh > diri) > kasus JW marriot hanya pengalihan sesaat untuk melupakan masyarakat dunia > tentang freeport dan "reputasi-reputasi lain" BIN kita. > I dont know its true or not. > Menurut putri sih teroris tidak akan melakukan serangan di tempat yang sama > apalagi jaraknya sangat berdekatan dan dalam waktu yang dekat > kelihatan sangat kanak-kanak menurut putri > > seperti seorang anak yang kehilangan mainannya dan menyerang apa saja di > dekatnya > jelas kasus ini politis banget. > ilfiil juga sih ingat perkataan bapak SBY di televisi, tapi put fikir ada > benarnya > isu...sekecil apapun itu kalau dalam keadaan genting bakal ditanggapi > serius... > > yeah...ini sekali lagi menurut putri > jelas ini bukan kerjaan JI, Al Qaidah atau siapa yang mereka anggap teroris > selama ini