Re: {W&P} Anyone following the Conventions?
From: "Bruce Cherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Why are you using the taxpayer's computers to post personal messages > unrelated to state business. Why do you care? And why did you not bother to edit the comments out? That's a waste for everyone.. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I'm duplicitous; Yes, money does play an important role in politics > > today. And, Yes, money will probably be the deciding factor in this election... ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} war and evil
From: "F. Leon Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There is no connection between the two. Only hindsight. > > F. sorry, I beg to differ war is often the tool of evil. But that leads to the question of "what is evil?" How do you define it? ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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From: "David G. McDivitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The question inferred wars are evil. I can't say that's always the case. > WWII is commonly not considered evil on the side of the Allies, but is > considered evil on the part of Germany, Italy, and Japan. Because the histories are invariably written by the victors I'm sure the Axis leaders didn't consider themselves to be the 'agents of evil' :) ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} war and evil
From: "al winslow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The question inferred wars are evil. > > I can't say that's always the case. > > "Evil"? I don't really know how to apply the word to war. War is at > least undersirable but not as undesirable as LOSING a war to an > enemy nation that would impose its will upon your own country. It is hmm, undesirable to have someone enforce their will upon your own country or upon the people of that country? (nit picking? perhaps, perhaps not :)... after all it is the people who end up the real losers) > just something you have to do once in a while. Being really well > prepared for war is the best way to prevent having to fight a war. If > you are armed to the teeth and clearly willing to fight it tends to back > an aggressor off. well, how about some other method to avoid war? is there anything else that can prevent wars except MAD ? ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} war and evil
>well, how about some other method to avoid war? is there anything else > that can prevent wars except MAD ? > Not while countries are in competition with each other. Most wars are economic at heart whatever the blather that accompanies them. It's only recently that ideology got caught up in it. Even the first world war was, in the words of George from Blackadder, 'to end the vile empire building of the Hun', in other words to protect British economic interests. The German's were looking to expand their's. Besides, MAD doesn't prevent war, it just postpones it. Sometimes we're lucky and it postpones it long enough for the enemy to crumble under internal pressure, sometimes we're not and they start marching (or we do). Matt ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} war and evil
Isn't evil what drove Hitler to practice genocide, Or Hussain to use propaganda to incite anti western views and therefore allow the generation of biological warfare legitimately in the eyes of his people... Or is it female circumcision ? Then again it could be bans on trading with certain countires, which causes suffering for their impoverished... or is it the EX Mexican Govt that relaeased sewerage and flooded a town to generate support in their election... Then again it could just be the media... they manipulate the news and war to produce profit. So who defines evil, and in what context is war? Is it the media barrons trying to get first coverage and create the best imagery, or is it the war against famine and oppression... or just the bloody ones ... WWI, WWII, civil, napoleonic ? revolutions ? maree > From: "F. Leon Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There is no connection between the two. Only hindsight. > > > > F. > > > sorry, I beg to differ war is often the tool of evil. > > > But that leads to the question of "what is evil?" How do you define it? > > > > > > ___ > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email > Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 > referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! > ___ > T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 > Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics > ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} war and evil
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, John Torpey wrote: > From: "F. Leon Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There is no connection between the two. Only hindsight. > > > > F. > > > sorry, I beg to differ war is often the tool of evil. > > > But that leads to the question of "what is evil?" How do you define it? You must define "evil" according to whatever system of thought and logic you use. War is "A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties." Evil is simply something that is judged "*morally* bad or wrong." Morally is a judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character: There is no connection between war and evil. F. ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} A definitive answer from The Author
In a message dated 9/2/00 6:34:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Is injustice a greater evil than war? Yes. Al Winslow I say no; why? Sin is anything contrary to the will of God. Injustice is a sin. War is a sin. Sin is sin, no one sin is greater than another . All sin is abhorrent to Our Holy and Righteous God. I know people on this list will disagree with me; what I speak comes from the Bilble. If you have a disagreement with my position, take it up with The Author. In Him, Derek I Corithians 2:2 ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} A definitive answer from The Author
> > I say no; why? Sin is anything contrary to the will of God. Injustice is a > sin. War is a sin. Sin is sin, no one sin is greater than another . All sin > is abhorrent to Our Holy and Righteous God. I know people on this list will > disagree with me; what I speak comes from the Bilble. If you have a > disagreement with my position, take it up with The Author. > > In Him, > > Derek > I Corithians 2:2 Meanwhile, back on Earth... Matt ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} home-cooked meals and bloody murder
> Sin is sin, no one sin is greater > than another . Let's play a logic game here. Given: No sin is greater than another. Lying is a sin. (Thou shalt not lie) Savage, bloody murder is a sin. (Thou shalt not kill) Conclusion: Telling your mother you loved her casserole when you could barely stuff it down is equivalent to digging someone's heart out with a spoon. I cannot rightly assume that you're free of sin--I assume you've told a "little white lie" before. If you've told a few little white lies, you're just as morally reprehensible as a serial killer. I think I'll write my Congressman and tell him to fire all the serial killers inside the Beltway. That should clear up our bureaucracy quite a bit. Jeff P.S. I've researched the rules and it's quite allowable for a government employee to use a government system to participate in a War and Politics email list. We call it professional development, and if you argue that thoroughly debating the moral and practical consequences of political and military actions taken by the US government is not professional development, I'd like you to reconsider who you'd like working for the government. P.P.S. My opinions are my own and don't reflect nutin' on nobody but me. ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} war and evil
From: "F. Leon Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > There is no connection between the two. Only hindsight. > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, John Torpey wrote: > > sorry, I beg to differ war is often the tool of evil. > > > > But that leads to the question of "what is evil?" How do you define it? From: "F. Leon Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You must define "evil" according to whatever system of thought and logic > you use. > > War is "A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on > between nations, states, or parties." > > Evil is simply something that is judged "*morally* bad or wrong." > > >Morally is a judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and > character: > > There is no connection between war and evil. Actually, you just made my argument for me, didn't you? I said "war is often a tool of evil"... You said "Evil is simply something that is judged "*morally* bad or wrong."" and I think we can all agree that the actions of those who have lost major wars (Hitler, etc) have been adjudged by the majority of civilization to be 'evil' ... and your statement of "War is "A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties."" would support the proposition that war is a political tool which is used to force submission of one nation to another's will therefore my statement that "war is often a tool of evil" would seem to be supported by your statements. ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} home-cooked meals and bloody murder
From: "Jackson Jeffrey W 1stLt AAC/INA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "Derek C. Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sin is sin, no one sin is greater > > than another . > > Let's play a logic game here. > > Given: > No sin is greater than another. > Lying is a sin. (Thou shalt not lie) Um, not really wanting to get into a theological discussion but there is no 'commandment' of "Thou shalt not lie"... I believe you might be referring to "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" which is not the same thing :) > Savage, bloody murder is a sin. (Thou shalt not kill) > > Conclusion: Telling your mother you loved her casserole when you could > barely stuff it down is equivalent to digging someone's heart out with a > spoon. Just goes to show that false conclusions can always be reached with inaccurate info :) You never had my mother's casserole :) ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
