[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-28 Thread Joseph Harris
> So you want the text as a marker while the image loads. Why not
consolidate
> your slices into a single image and then use the text as an alt tag?
>
> drew
==

drew,

I sliced originally because the gif was causing mispalcement of s;
finally being guided to the correct use of z-index  - the slices sort of
remained.   Also positively because the gifs extend only slightly beyond the
image, rather than forming a large gif triangle which would be  a larger
file size and, for me I am sure, a hostage to fortune!

I do have alt and title tags    oh!   I did put them in somewhere, but
now Ican't find them.   On the list of jobs.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-28 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

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From: Joseph Harris 
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 I would only put a bit of repeater text in case the logo is slow
downloading.

=
So you want the text as a marker while the image loads. Why not consolidate
your slices into a single image and then use the text as an alt tag? 

drew

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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-28 Thread Joseph Harris
drew,

And they said this was supposed to be fun!

> Under the logo? Under the green and white curvilinear logo in the upper
left
> hand corner? And under meaning underneath as opposed to below?

It was the best way I could see to get that shape without a whole other set
of hoops to jump through.

>
> It just may be me, but I don't see a close for the div id=top. But then I
> did miss the close of the  use of a table (awful idea -- anathema to
> accessibility and validity) for the form. If the top div is not closed, it
> would explain why the left nav is over so far since it is effectively
> contained in the top div.

With the further testing I have those s closed, but the problem is
still there.

>
> If I'm right, it would be an interesting effect with the text partially
> under the logo. Not sure if it would be underneath since there is a1em
> padding. But it would be interesting to see.

I would only put a bit of repeater text in case the logo is slow
downloading.

>
> And if the div closes and I missed it, smile gently at my embarrassment.
(As
> if this would be the first time that happened.)
>
> On the php -- go with what Shelia tells you. She knows this stuff. I'm
> curious as to why you want to use a class and not just an include. Seems
to
> me an include is a whole lot easier.

I thought to stay with this for the high number of pages.   Sheila has,
indeed, shown me the way - except at the moment all the  head stuff is
appearing at the end of  the source!If only computers were intelligent.
(Oh, no, that's a take over issue.)

>
> But it is getting there, Joseph.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Joseph

>
> Drew


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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-28 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Harris 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:45 PM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

drew and Perry,

The left column is displaced to the right by two or three inches, and the
words in black should be under the logo.

The opening of the code (down to ) should be generated by a class but
it does not appear to be functioning at this point.   I was going to leave
it till later but take the point about the possibility of its lack changing
the outcomes!

back soon!

Joseph

I should have remembered that links order.

=

Under the logo? Under the green and white curvilinear logo in the upper left
hand corner? And under meaning underneath as opposed to below?

It just may be me, but I don't see a close for the div id=top. But then I
did miss the close of the  use of a table (awful idea -- anathema to
accessibility and validity) for the form. If the top div is not closed, it
would explain why the left nav is over so far since it is effectively
contained in the top div. 

If I'm right, it would be an interesting effect with the text partially
under the logo. Not sure if it would be underneath since there is a1em
padding. But it would be interesting to see.

And if the div closes and I missed it, smile gently at my embarrassment. (As
if this would be the first time that happened.)

On the php -- go with what Shelia tells you. She knows this stuff. I'm
curious as to why you want to use a class and not just an include. Seems to
me an include is a whole lot easier.

But it is getting there, Joseph.

Drew


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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-27 Thread Joseph Harris
drew and Perry,

The left column is displaced to the right by two or three inches, and the
words in black should be under the logo.

The opening of the code (down to ) should be generated by a class but
it does not appear to be functioning at this point.   I was going to leave
it till later but take the point about the possibility of its lack changing
the outcomes!

back soon!

Joseph

I should have remembered that links order.

> drew,
>
> I'm not getting there.   I thought it might be the local server program at
> fault so I've uploaded to the host.   This is the url
> http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/index_spw.php
> and this is the css
> http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/new_spw.php
>
> Having achieved it and then lost it is maddening!
>
> Joseph
> 
>
> Joseph, not sure what you are trying to achieve. However, you need to take
a
> careful look at your code. The index_spw.php starts with a link tag and
then
> closes the head. Starts a form and then a table, neither of which
finishes.
> In short, something is wrong with the code. Looks as if it lost some of
> itself when uploaded. Fix that and the outcome may be very different.
>
> Oh and the specs for html4.01 say that link and visited must precede
hover.
>
> Lets look again when the code is repaired.
>
> drew
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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-27 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Harris  
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

drew,

I'm not getting there.   I thought it might be the local server program at
fault so I've uploaded to the host.   This is the url
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/index_spw.php
and this is the css
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/new_spw.php

Having achieved it and then lost it is maddening!

Joseph


Joseph, not sure what you are trying to achieve. However, you need to take a
careful look at your code. The index_spw.php starts with a link tag and then
closes the head. Starts a form and then a table, neither of which finishes.
In short, something is wrong with the code. Looks as if it lost some of
itself when uploaded. Fix that and the outcome may be very different.

Oh and the specs for html4.01 say that link and visited must precede hover. 

Lets look again when the code is repaired.

drew

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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-27 Thread Gerenday, Perry (P.)

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Harris 
>
> Can someone guide me to the way to have one div (or whatever would be the
> right code) float over a container and its components.   The floater is a
> set of gifs.

Joseph,
I'm wondering if what you're describing is precisely what you mean.
Making a DIV "Float" is not the same thing as raising a layer on it's
z-axis.
When you say "float over a container" do you mean "higher on the page than
the container", or
"or a higher z-index"? Do you follow me? :)
Can you give us a link to a screen capture of the page arranged the way you
want it to be?
Right now, nothing looks obviously out of place.

Thanks,
Perry Gerenday



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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-27 Thread Joseph Harris
Ahem!!   and this is the includes I've put together
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/includes.txt

drew,

I'm not getting there.   I thought it might be the local server program at
fault so I've uploaded to the host.   This is the url
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/index_spw.php
and this is the css
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/new_spw.php

Having achieved it and then lost it is maddening!

Joseph


>
>


> Sailing, as I was, through a bit of coding and producing a look that I
> liked, I found myself faced with a different look when I turned from
calling
> a local file in the browser to calling it through the local server.
>
> It has rather messed it up!
>
> Can someone guide me to the way to have one div (or whatever would be the
> right code) float over a container and its components.   The floater is a
> set of gifs.
>
> Apart from that it is all looking similar in IE6, Opera and Firefox;
quite
> a lot more coding to do though, so it may not last!
>
> Joseph Harris
> ==
>
> Floats always cover the background and when on the same layer as the
> background, push any content to the side. So have you tried giving the
gifs
> a z-index and making them transparent?
>
>
> drew
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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-27 Thread Joseph Harris
drew,

I'm not getting there.   I thought it might be the local server program at
fault so I've uploaded to the host.   This is the url
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/index_spw.php
and this is the css
http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com/new_spw_site/new_spw.php

Having achieved it and then lost it is maddening!

Joseph

>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [wdvltalk] Code interpretation problem
>
> Sailing, as I was, through a bit of coding and producing a look that I
> liked, I found myself faced with a different look when I turned from
calling
> a local file in the browser to calling it through the local server.
>
> It has rather messed it up!
>
> Can someone guide me to the way to have one div (or whatever would be the
> right code) float over a container and its components.   The floater is a
> set of gifs.
>
> Apart from that it is all looking similar in IE6, Opera and Firefox;
quite
> a lot more coding to do though, so it may not last!
>
> Joseph Harris
> ==
>
> Floats always cover the background and when on the same layer as the
> background, push any content to the side. So have you tried giving the
gifs
> a z-index and making them transparent?
>
>
> drew
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[wdvltalk] RE: Code interpretation problem

2004-10-27 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Harris  
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Code interpretation problem

Sailing, as I was, through a bit of coding and producing a look that I
liked, I found myself faced with a different look when I turned from calling
a local file in the browser to calling it through the local server.

It has rather messed it up!

Can someone guide me to the way to have one div (or whatever would be the
right code) float over a container and its components.   The floater is a
set of gifs.

Apart from that it is all looking similar in IE6, Opera and Firefox;   quite
a lot more coding to do though, so it may not last!

Joseph Harris
==

Floats always cover the background and when on the same layer as the
background, push any content to the side. So have you tried giving the gifs
a z-index and making them transparent?


drew

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