Re: [WikiEducator] Assigning a category to be the top level of the WE category system

2012-01-31 Thread Anil Prasad
Hi Alison,

When used in a well planned manner, category can facilitate systematic (and
micro level) branching out of a curriculum – which should be one of the
priorities of WE. Go ahead!
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Warm regards

Anil
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Alison Snieckus
alison.sniec...@gmail.comwrote:

 A few years ago, a few wikieducators started the Categories 
 Workgrouphttp://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:Categories.
 The purpose of the group is ... to achieve a category structure which
 facilitates browsing related content, as well as finding specific content,
 inasmuch as categories are capable. The group has languished over the past
 2+ years, but the early thinking is still available.

 In my opinion, the current state of categories on WikiEducator is chaotic
 and, although it's not a top priority, it would be nice if we could bring
 some structure to our offerings.

 As a first step in this effort, I propose that we create Category:
 Contents http://wikieducator.org/Category:Contents as the top (root)
 level of the WE category system. My reasoning for this suggestion is that
 the term Contents is easily understood by educators, generally, and also,
 Wikipedia uses Contents as its top category, offering good precedent for
 the choice (although most of the other Wikimedia projects use
 Category:Categories as their top level).  If you are interested, you can
 access a short discussion from 
 2009http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Brainstorming!_(3)on alternatives.

 Please reply post with any thoughts on this suggestion.

 Thanks, Alison
 User:ASnieckus http://wikieducator.org/User:ASnieckus

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Re: [WikiEducator] Assigning a category to be the top level of the WE category system

2012-01-31 Thread Gita Mathur
Hi
I fully agree and would like all to see the link below where a lot was
discussed.

http://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:Categories

Looking forward to making this more meaningful
Gita Mathur

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alison,


 When used in a well planned manner, category can facilitate systematic (and
 micro level) branching out of a curriculum – which should be one of the
 priorities of WE. Go ahead!
 --
 Warm regards

 Anil
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad
 http://www.apletters.blogspot.com

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Alison Snieckus alison.sniec...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 A few years ago, a few wikieducators started the Categories Workgroup. The
 purpose of the group is ... to achieve a category structure which
 facilitates browsing related content, as well as finding specific content,
 inasmuch as categories are capable. The group has languished over the past
 2+ years, but the early thinking is still available.

 In my opinion, the current state of categories on WikiEducator is chaotic
 and, although it's not a top priority, it would be nice if we could bring
 some structure to our offerings.

 As a first step in this effort, I propose that we create Category:
 Contents as the top (root) level of the WE category system. My reasoning for
 this suggestion is that the term Contents is easily understood by
 educators, generally, and also, Wikipedia uses Contents as its top
 category, offering good precedent for the choice (although most of the other
 Wikimedia projects use Category:Categories as their top level).  If you
 are interested, you can access a short discussion from 2009 on alternatives.

 Please reply post with any thoughts on this suggestion.

 Thanks, Alison
 User:ASnieckus

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Re: [WikiEducator] Assigning a category to be the top level of the WE category system

2012-01-31 Thread Balqis Thaahaveettil
Hi,

I was feeling the same as if lost  and totally agree with this very
useful idea .
Balqis

On 1/31/12, Gita Mathur gita.mat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 I fully agree and would like all to see the link below where a lot was
 discussed.

 http://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:Categories

 Looking forward to making this more meaningful
 Gita Mathur

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alison,


 When used in a well planned manner, category can facilitate systematic
 (and
 micro level) branching out of a curriculum – which should be one of the
 priorities of WE. Go ahead!
 --
 Warm regards

 Anil
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad
 http://www.apletters.blogspot.com

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Alison Snieckus
 alison.sniec...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 A few years ago, a few wikieducators started the Categories Workgroup.
 The
 purpose of the group is ... to achieve a category structure which
 facilitates browsing related content, as well as finding specific
 content,
 inasmuch as categories are capable. The group has languished over the
 past
 2+ years, but the early thinking is still available.

 In my opinion, the current state of categories on WikiEducator is chaotic
 and, although it's not a top priority, it would be nice if we could bring
 some structure to our offerings.

 As a first step in this effort, I propose that we create Category:
 Contents as the top (root) level of the WE category system. My reasoning
 for
 this suggestion is that the term Contents is easily understood by
 educators, generally, and also, Wikipedia uses Contents as its top
 category, offering good precedent for the choice (although most of the
 other
 Wikimedia projects use Category:Categories as their top level).  If you
 are interested, you can access a short discussion from 2009 on
 alternatives.

 Please reply post with any thoughts on this suggestion.

 Thanks, Alison
 User:ASnieckus

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Re: [WikiEducator] Assigning a category to be the top level of the WE category system

2012-01-31 Thread Alison Snieckus
Thanks for posting your thoughts on the proposal. I will go ahead with
creating Category:Contents as the top level. I have some thoughts on
categories which would work well directly under the top category. I will
create a draft second level and then repost to encourage feedback.

Randy--yes, Jim added the hot cat gadget some time ago, which makes
adding/revising categories really easy. To activate the hotcats gadget
(which displays as (-) (±) | (+) next to existing categories at the
bottom of a page) go to my preferences  Gadgets and check the box for Hot
Cat.

Gita--Thanks for adding the link to
Workgroup:Categorieshttp://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:Categories
.

All--If you are interested to work on categories, please feel free to join
our categories workgroup.

See you in the wiki,
Alison
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Re: [WikiEducator] Digest for wikieducator@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 1 Topic

2012-01-31 Thread Mark Roest
Hello all,

I just followed the link to the old discussion and the categories and
content that were done around 2009.

Under Category:Alternative / Renewable Energy, I found the following:

In Solomon Islands you can find coconut everywhere ...

which led to a discussion of coconut biodiesel production and values. That
was it for content. My sense is that having this content in this location
could have been a category killer, because like a monkey wrench in the
gears, it jams up the works, in terms of proceeding to add other content,
or even seeing what content is needed.

The first step after creating a category like Alternative / Renewable
energy is usually to make a list of basic types that are commonly known,
such as biofuels (with subcategories of biodiesel, straight cooking oil,
alcohol, and maybe more), wind (with subcategories of water-pumping and
electricity generating; the latter has subcategories of vertical axis,
which has sub-sub-categories of:
Darrius (I think I mis-spelled it -- with catenary blades),
Savonius (with something like barrel-half blades),
with straight blades, etc.,

horizontal axis, which has sub-sub-categories of:
2-blade
3-blade
5-blade
more than 5 blades, eg. Tom Chalk's bicycle wheel turbine from Popular
Science, perhaps August of 1974

Then there is solar, with categories of thermal, photovoltaic flat panel,
and concentrating photovoltaic with and without capture of the thermal
energy rejected by the pv cell. Thermal also has subcategories of
thermosyphon and pumped, with a variety of versions based on freeze
protection schemes.

That is just a few of the basic categories that have industries attached to
them.

Going back to biofuels and the sentence I reproduced, we see a classic
indication of the variation in geography:
In Solomon Islands you can find coconut everywhere ...
Yes, and in Alaska, especially above the Inside Passage (i.e. Juneau
south), you would be hard pressed to find a single coconut tree outside of
a greenhouse!

The most effective way to 1) encourage people to contribute the content
that is relevant to their environment, and 2) make it possible to find
information easily once created and posted,
is to cross-index say, bio-fuels, according to availability from local
natural resources, by eco-region, and possibly by the ecosystems within
eco-regions. Thus for each eco-region or ecosystem, we would have a variant
of the category tree and discussions of biofuels, focused on what natural
resources are available which can readily be converted into fuels, without
destroying the original sources.
Much of the content could be the same, say for coconut oils from different
regions.

Similarly, for much of inland Africa (except mountaintops and passes, and
other places where wind is strongly concentrated by terrain) we would need
to focus on inexpensive wind energy conversion systems that perform well in
low wind speeds, while along the southern flank of the Himalayas in
Pakistan, and in the North Sea, we will usually be at the other extreme.

Within many of the approximately 830 eco-regions, there are also multiple
cultures, which have evolved in response to various combinations of
resource availability, trade opportunities or competition for resources,
and sometimes, history in other environments followed by migration. About
500 years ago there were about 9,000 languages; now about 7,000 are left.
Each is a distinctive manifestation of a worldview and natural environment.
Each has traditional bio-fuels, and some have traditional windmills. Each
has designs for constructing buildings using only the locally available
natural materials, and controlling or channeling sun and wind, rain or
snow, as is relevant for their location.

With all this richness and diversity of content, it seems to me that there
ought to be a cross-categorization of natural environment, culture, problem
and technology. It ought to be possible to start with technology if you
wish (e.g. if you are a windmill manufacturer). However, most people trying
to meet their needs would be better off:
1. starting with their traditional means of harnessing energy, then
2. if that is not sufficient, looking at the energy sources and
technologies known to be viable in their eco-region or ecosystem, and from
there,
3. considering the worldview of their culture to see what would be likely
to win adoption and collaboration in creating. This could include
adaptations to make it feel like a natural extension of the culture.

An edited version of this discussion, translated into lots of languages,
could serve as a unifying introduction. The core concept is theme (how to
meet a human need, restore an ecosystem, or make something for one or more
of the above work better) and variations. This informs users that there
exists a discipline of renewable energy conversion, and encourages them to
scan the globe (when I was young, literally, now, figuratively, in
GoogleEarth or equivalent, using search terms) for other