Re: [Wikimediauk-l] At a loose end this weekend? Take some pics and snap out of it!

2013-09-14 Thread brian . mcneil

Quoting Michael Maggs :



http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk/?page_id=75


What, in London, hasn't been photographed?

Oh, wait, ... Tomorrow's triathalon.

Anyone in the city fancy themselves as a sports photographer/reporter?


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-14 Thread Andrew Gray
The Angel of the North is an excellent example of visible,
well-photographed, modern public art. Plus it's a good excuse to include a
picture of it :-)

A.

On Saturday, 14 September 2013, Andy Mabbett wrote:

> On 14 September 2013 16:29, HJ Mitchell >
> wrote:
> > An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices;
> Nelson's
> > Column comes to mind...
>
> Nelson's Column would be out of copyright anyway. Perhaps a more
> contemporary example, such as the Angel of the North?
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 14 September 2013 16:29, HJ Mitchell  wrote:
> An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices; Nelson's
> Column comes to mind...

Nelson's Column would be out of copyright anyway. Perhaps a more
contemporary example, such as the Angel of the North?



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Maggs
Ok Harry, I will have a go at tweaking the text to put the buildings info 
first. It would be easier to be more straightforward if we had more space to 
fit this into.

Michael 

On 14 Sep 2013, at 16:29, HJ Mitchell  wrote:

> Pardon me, Michael, but I think that might be a bit too jargony. If I was a 
> complete novice on copyright, I'd have to read that several times to work out 
> that I could upload a photo of any building in the UK without infringing a 
> third party's copyright. The important part is that if it's 3D and 
> permanently lives in a public place (like a building or a statue), it's fair 
> game. An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices; 
> Nelson's Column comes to mind...
>  
> Harry Mitchell
> http://enwp.org/User:HJ
> Phone: 024 7698 0977
> Skype: harry_j_mitchell
> 
> From: Michael Maggs 
> To: UK Wikimedia mailing list ; Stevie 
> Benton  
> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 15:40
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your 
> thoughts?
> 
> A link might be good but as Katie says that will probably not help beginners. 
>   If at all possible I'd like to squeeze this in, as in prtactice the issues 
> briefly coverd there are of considerable imporetance to Commons, and admins 
> spend a lot of time having to delete non-free contect that comes within that 
> field.  
> 
> I'm happy to try and shorten if we can.  Also, can the 'have fun!' sign off 
> be smaller?
> 
> This version maybe saves a line without losing content:
> 
>> Freedom of panorama ('FoP') in the UK
>> FoP is a copyright law exception which gives photographers the freedom to 
>> take a photo of any building, or any 3D artistic work (eg sculpture, 
>> jewellery, artwork) that is on permanent public display, without infringing 
>> any copyright held by the architect or artist.  'Public display' means in a 
>> place normally open to the public, including interior spaces such as 
>> museums.  FoP does not extend to 3D works that are part of a temporary 
>> exhibition, nor to most 2D works such as posters or signs - even if on 
>> display in public.  FoP in the UK allows all modern buildings and some 3D 
>> artistic works to be freely photographed, without copyright concerns, but 
>> note that other countries' rules may  differ.
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> On 13 Sep 2013, at 15:08, Katie Chan wrote:
> 
>> Both the English Wikipedia and Commons have a page on FoP, but they're not 
>> necessarily beginners friendly.
>> 
>> * 
>> * 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 September 2013 14:35, Stevie Benton  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> Thanks for your comments. The xxx is the space for the URL - once I know 
>> what that will be I'll add it in.
>> 
>> I will try and squeeze that text in although I'm not sure there is space. Is 
>> there a URL we can point people to for fuller details of FoP? It's all a bit 
>> daunting and intimidating for newbies I think.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Stevie
> 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-14 Thread HJ Mitchell
Pardon me, Michael, but I think that might be a bit too jargony. If I was a 
complete novice on copyright, I'd have to read that several times to work out 
that I could upload a photo of any building in the UK without infringing a 
third party's copyright. The important part is that if it's 3D and permanently 
lives in a public place (like a building or a statue), it's fair game. An 
example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices; Nelson's Column 
comes to mind...
 
Harry Mitchell

http://enwp.org/User:HJ

Phone: 024 7698 0977
Skype: harry_j_mitchell



 From: Michael Maggs 
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list ; Stevie 
Benton  
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 15:40
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your   
thoughts?
 


A link might be good but as Katie says that will probably not help beginners.   
If at all possible I'd like to squeeze this in, as in prtactice the issues 
briefly coverd there are of considerable imporetance to Commons, and admins 
spend a lot of time having to delete non-free contect that comes within that 
field.  

I'm happy to try and shorten if we can.  Also, can the 'have fun!' sign off be 
smaller?

This version maybe saves a line without losing content:

Freedom of panorama ('FoP') in the UK
>>>FoP is a copyright law exception which gives photographers the freedom to 
>>>take a photo of any building, or any 3D artistic work (eg sculpture, 
>>>jewellery, artwork) that is on permanent public display, without infringing 
>>>any copyright held by the architect or artist.  'Public display' means in a 
>>>place normally open to the public, including interior spaces such as 
>>>museums.  FoP does not extend to 3D works that are part of a temporary 
>>>exhibition, nor to most 2D works such as posters or signs - even if on 
>>>display in public.  FoP in the UK allows all modern buildings and some 3D 
>>>artistic works to be freely photographed, without copyright concerns, but 
>>>note that other countries' rules may differ.

Michael




On 13 Sep 2013, at 15:08, Katie Chan wrote:

Both the English Wikipedia and Commons have a page on FoP, but they're not 
necessarily beginners friendly.
>
>
>* 
>* 
>
>
>
>On 13 September 2013 14:35, Stevie Benton  
>wrote:
>
>Hi Michael,
>>
>>
>>Thanks for your comments. The xxx is the space for the URL - once I know 
>>what that will be I'll add it in.
>>
>>
>>I will try and squeeze that text in although I'm not sure there is space. Is 
>>there a URL we can point people to for fuller details of FoP? It's all a bit 
>>daunting and intimidating for newbies I think.
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Stevie
>>
>>

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