Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > Hmmm...I suppose this answers the original question. Rapid is NOT > paying for the benefit (as a principle member) and you expect that > your $250 makes up for your using this list as a PR list for Rapid > (not WISPA). > What benefit exactly? You seem to ignore the part where we pay more than $250 per release to have our release issued by a professional distribution company. You also seem to ignore that this is a free list that we would have access whether we are a WISPA member or not. Further, where was your outrage when other releases were shared with the list? Its not like Rapid Link is the only WISPA member to have ever sent a copy of our release to the free list. >> complaining about advertising without any mention of WISPA you >> might want to check your signature. A quick look reveals tangible >> Google Pagerank benefits. > > Ahh. Let's take a quick look at the other portion of this "stab". > > 1. I am a VENDOR member and paid for that benefit. And as soon as I > get the link to pay for the next year, I will be again this year. > > 2. Those posts (some of which are not the wispa list) are almost > entirely composed of information that is in direct answers to > questions posted on this list. (Other than those posts which came > as a benefit to my VENDOR MEMBER status, or were separately paid > prior to my joining as a vendor.) > > 3. I spent MANY hours of volunteer time in building the CALEA > Standard that will benefit not only WISPA and it's membership, but > ALL WISPs. > > 4. I spent over $1000 just recently for both ISPCON and the MUM that > did not directly benefit me, but was to benefit WISPA and help > announce the WISPA CALEA Standard. I did not have a booth at either > show. > > 5. My website has a link on EVERY PAGE back to WISPA's homepage, so > there is MUTUAL BENEFIT. > > I am having a hard time seeing a parallel situation between us. > Again, if the membership sees no problem with your using these > servers for your announcements, then neither do I...It was, after > all just a question. > Wow, you got us. All this time we haven't contributed a thing to the industry and have managed to sucker WISPA into our own personal PR machine for the small price of $250 per year. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Matt Liotta wrote: >No that wasn't the content of the post. My suggestion was for WISPA >to ride on the coattails of its members' PR. But while your Hmmm...I suppose this answers the original question. Rapid is NOT paying for the benefit (as a principle member) and you expect that your $250 makes up for your using this list as a PR list for Rapid (not WISPA). >complaining about advertising without any mention of WISPA you >might want to check your signature. A quick look reveals tangible >Google Pagerank benefits. Ahh. Let's take a quick look at the other portion of this "stab". 1. I am a VENDOR member and paid for that benefit. And as soon as I get the link to pay for the next year, I will be again this year. 2. Those posts (some of which are not the wispa list) are almost entirely composed of information that is in direct answers to questions posted on this list. (Other than those posts which came as a benefit to my VENDOR MEMBER status, or were separately paid prior to my joining as a vendor.) 3. I spent MANY hours of volunteer time in building the CALEA Standard that will benefit not only WISPA and it's membership, but ALL WISPs. 4. I spent over $1000 just recently for both ISPCON and the MUM that did not directly benefit me, but was to benefit WISPA and help announce the WISPA CALEA Standard. I did not have a booth at either show. 5. My website has a link on EVERY PAGE back to WISPA's homepage, so there is MUTUAL BENEFIT. I am having a hard time seeing a parallel situation between us. Again, if the membership sees no problem with your using these servers for your announcements, then neither do I...It was, after all just a question. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
On Jun 16, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Matt Liotta wrote: > >> To turn the thread around... Maybe WISPA should think about doing >> its own PR. Don't you think seeing, "WISPA Member to be Featured at >> Broadband Wireless World" on the wires would get more people paying >> attention to WISPA? > > Was that the content of the post? Maybe I missed any mention of > WISPA in the advertisement by mistake. > No that wasn't the content of the post. My suggestion was for WISPA to ride on the coattails of its members' PR. But while your complaining about advertising without any mention of WISPA you might want to check your signature. A quick look reveals tangible Google Pagerank benefits. See http://www.google.com/search?q=butchevans.com+site:mail-archive.com&num=100&hl=en&safe=off&filter=0 for example. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
I'm not sure what your problem is exactly. The only reason we send PR to the list is to share it with the organization. We don't receive any search engine benefit since we already pay professional news distribution companies to deliver our news to the public. See http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&q=%22rapid+link%22&ie=UTF-8&filter=0 . Even if there is some benefit I am missing I don't see why that is a problem. What is WISPA if not for the benefit of its WISP members? -Matt On Jun 16, 2008, at 5:39 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Matt Liotta wrote: > >> It is pretty normal for members of an organization to share PR with >> others in the organization. Are you suggesting members should be >> charged for sharing PR? > > First, you are not "sharing PR with others in the organization". > This list is the PUBLIC list. And, no...I'm not suggesting members > should be charged with this. If you are doing this on the public > list, however, then this list is being used as an outlet for press > releases, which is not the function of WISPA for principle > membership. If you are a vendor member, or if I am out of line, > I'll be the first to apologize, but I see no evidence that you are a > vendor member. It is mainly the idea that Rapid is (apparently) > attempting to utilize this public list to provide information to the > general public (press release) and that seems out of line to me. I > don't speak for WISPA, either, so this is just my opinion. I see no > reason to blast 5-7 press releases per month to the member list if > the membership is interested in seeing it. Otherwise, it's (as I > said in the first place) just using WISPA's servers to send press > releases (which are indexed by the search engines) out to the > public. Perhaps this should be a member benefit...if so, $250 per > year is CHEAP for this number of press releases and should be > considered a GOOD DEAL by Rapid (and other WISPs). > > -- > > *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * > *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS * > *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * > *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * > *Mikrotik Certified Consultant*Wired or Wireless Networks* > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by One Ring Networks, and is > believed to be clean. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Matt Liotta wrote: >To turn the thread around... Maybe WISPA should think about doing >its own PR. Don't you think seeing, "WISPA Member to be Featured at >Broadband Wireless World" on the wires would get more people paying >attention to WISPA? Was that the content of the post? Maybe I missed any mention of WISPA in the advertisement by mistake. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Matt Liotta wrote: >It is pretty normal for members of an organization to share PR with >others in the organization. Are you suggesting members should be >charged for sharing PR? First, you are not "sharing PR with others in the organization". This list is the PUBLIC list. And, no...I'm not suggesting members should be charged with this. If you are doing this on the public list, however, then this list is being used as an outlet for press releases, which is not the function of WISPA for principle membership. If you are a vendor member, or if I am out of line, I'll be the first to apologize, but I see no evidence that you are a vendor member. It is mainly the idea that Rapid is (apparently) attempting to utilize this public list to provide information to the general public (press release) and that seems out of line to me. I don't speak for WISPA, either, so this is just my opinion. I see no reason to blast 5-7 press releases per month to the member list if the membership is interested in seeing it. Otherwise, it's (as I said in the first place) just using WISPA's servers to send press releases (which are indexed by the search engines) out to the public. Perhaps this should be a member benefit...if so, $250 per year is CHEAP for this number of press releases and should be considered a GOOD DEAL by Rapid (and other WISPs). -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
To turn the thread around... Maybe WISPA should think about doing its own PR. Don't you think seeing, "WISPA Member to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World" on the wires would get more people paying attention to WISPA? -Matt On Jun 16, 2008, at 5:32 PM, George wrote: > I'm always interested in news. > At least Matt is tearing up the internet world. > > > Butch Evans wrote: >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Mike Prachar wrote: >> >>> - Rapid Link's Lead Technologist to sit on WiMAX panel - >> >> Is it just me that get's tired of reading all about Rapid Link on >> this list? I mean, this is not "news I can use"...it's just a >> series of "press releases" done on WISPA's server. Seems to me that >> WISPA oughta get something for this service... >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by One Ring Networks, and is > believed to be clean. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
I'm always interested in news. At least Matt is tearing up the internet world. Butch Evans wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Mike Prachar wrote: > >> - Rapid Link's Lead Technologist to sit on WiMAX panel - > > Is it just me that get's tired of reading all about Rapid Link on > this list? I mean, this is not "news I can use"...it's just a > series of "press releases" done on WISPA's server. Seems to me that > WISPA oughta get something for this service... > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
It is pretty normal for members of an organization to share PR with others in the organization. Are you suggesting members should be charged for sharing PR? -Matt On Jun 16, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Mike Prachar wrote: > >> - Rapid Link's Lead Technologist to sit on WiMAX panel - > > Is it just me that get's tired of reading all about Rapid Link on > this list? I mean, this is not "news I can use"...it's just a > series of "press releases" done on WISPA's server. Seems to me that > WISPA oughta get something for this service... > > -- > > *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * > *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS * > *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * > *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * > *Mikrotik Certified Consultant*Wired or Wireless Networks* > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by One Ring Networks, and is > believed to be clean. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Mike Prachar wrote: >- Rapid Link's Lead Technologist to sit on WiMAX panel - Is it just me that get's tired of reading all about Rapid Link on this list? I mean, this is not "news I can use"...it's just a series of "press releases" done on WISPA's server. Seems to me that WISPA oughta get something for this service... -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at Broadband Wireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
- Rapid Link's Lead Technologist to sit on WiMAX panel - OMAHA, NE - June 16, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a leading provider of WiMAX and Communication Services, is pleased to announce that Chief Technology Officer Matt Liotta is scheduled to speak as part of the WiMAX Progress Report panel at the upcoming Broadband Wireless World conference taking place June 18-19 at the Las Vegas Convention Center. WHO:Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer WHEN: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 Track: WiMAX Progress Report 3:10 PM - 4:10 PM WHERE: Las Vegas Convention Center 3150 Paradise Road Las Vegas, NV 89119 WHAT: WiMAX Progress Report Through Clearwire and Sprint Nextel, WiMax has captured the U.S. market's attention as the "next big thing" in mobile broadband. But how mature is the global WiMax ecosystem, and how is the technology actually progressing in terms of carrier implementation and user takeup here in the U.S.? Mr. Liotta states, "The term WiMAX has received lots of attention in the industry, yet many people, including insiders, are unsure how it will actually impact businesses in our space. This panel aims to clear up some common misconceptions and bring everyone up to date on where the technology really stands. Our real-word experience as a major provider of commercial voice and internet service over WiMAX has given me valuable insight into where WiMAX makes sense versus where it's simply a buzzword. I am eager to share Rapid Link's findings with the conference attendees." NOTE TO PRESS: To book an interview with Rapid Link's CTO at the event, please contact Rhea Topolski at 402-392-7525. About Broadband Wireless World Broadband Wireless World boasts a 10-year history delivering quality information to leading service providers including mobile operators, ISPs, wireline carriers, utilities, and municipalities. This year's Broadband Wireless World, produced by Light Reading and Heavy Reading, will take place at NXTcomm, the largest telecom exhibition and conference in the United States. About Rapid Link Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on any other company's resources. For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com. "Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology, evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products, services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability to gain market acceptance for its products and services; the Company's ability to fund its operational growth; the Company's ability to attract and retain skilled personnel; the Company's ability to diversify its revenue streams and customer concentrations; and the Company's reliance on third-party suppliers. Contact: Investor Relations Rapid Link, Incorporated Tel.: 402-392-7561 Or: David Elias Investor Relations DME Capital 516-967-0205 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/