Re: [WISPA] ntop
Just to follow up, IP SLA via SNMP gets me most of the way there. For Netflow I am having to write a Java daemon, but I am having some initial success. Looks like a couple more days of programming and I will be there. I did find that not every Cisco supports IP SLA. Luckily, every voice customer of ours has a Cisco that does. -Matt On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: > Good call... I forgot all about IP SLA. We can easily query that via > SNMP. > > -Matt > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Rutis, Cameron wrote: > >> I haven't worked with it yet but cisco's IP SLA feature can generate >> a MOS score >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk648/tk362/tk920/technologies_white_paper0900aecd801752ec.html >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On Behalf Of Matt Liotta >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:29 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ntop >> >> >> On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: >> >>> Matt, >>> >>> Are you looking for specific specs like latency and jitter? >>> >> I was hoping for something better. I can get latency and jitter >> information at layer3 from our Ciscos as well as latency and jitter >> of >> RTP itself from our soft switches. However, it is hard to correlate >> that into something high level and useful. Clearly thresholding >> latency and jitter is useful, but assuming neither are too high how >> does one know about the quality of a call. A MOS score would be more >> ideal. >> >> -Matt >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
Good call... I forgot all about IP SLA. We can easily query that via SNMP. -Matt On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Rutis, Cameron wrote: > I haven't worked with it yet but cisco's IP SLA feature can generate > a MOS score > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk648/tk362/tk920/technologies_white_paper0900aecd801752ec.html > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Matt Liotta > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:29 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ntop > > > On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > >> Matt, >> >> Are you looking for specific specs like latency and jitter? >> > I was hoping for something better. I can get latency and jitter > information at layer3 from our Ciscos as well as latency and jitter of > RTP itself from our soft switches. However, it is hard to correlate > that into something high level and useful. Clearly thresholding > latency and jitter is useful, but assuming neither are too high how > does one know about the quality of a call. A MOS score would be more > ideal. > > -Matt > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
I haven't worked with it yet but cisco's IP SLA feature can generate a MOS score http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk648/tk362/tk920/technologies_white_paper0900aecd801752ec.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ntop On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > Matt, > > Are you looking for specific specs like latency and jitter? > I was hoping for something better. I can get latency and jitter information at layer3 from our Ciscos as well as latency and jitter of RTP itself from our soft switches. However, it is hard to correlate that into something high level and useful. Clearly thresholding latency and jitter is useful, but assuming neither are too high how does one know about the quality of a call. A MOS score would be more ideal. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
I remember I had some problems with it's reporting. I was willing to pay maybe $100, but they were wanting like $1k+ to fix the bug. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Matt Liotta" Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:01 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] ntop > Anyone have any experience with ntop? Specially, with analysis of > netflow and voip. > > -Matt > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > Matt, > > Are you looking for specific specs like latency and jitter? > I was hoping for something better. I can get latency and jitter information at layer3 from our Ciscos as well as latency and jitter of RTP itself from our soft switches. However, it is hard to correlate that into something high level and useful. Clearly thresholding latency and jitter is useful, but assuming neither are too high how does one know about the quality of a call. A MOS score would be more ideal. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
Matt, Are you looking for specific specs like latency and jitter? Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ntop On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: > Do you have any specific questions? Yes, it can identify most VoIP > traffic, and yes, it can take a netflow feed. > I am looking for a few things. One is to be able to track utilization on a per AS basis both in realtime and over time. We have an appliance that can do this now, but I am not overly happy with the information I can get out of it. Regarding VoIP, I'd like to capture quality metrics in realtime and over time. Further, if ntop can perform these tasks -- which I understand it can-- then I am looking for feedback on how well it does in this regard. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: > Do you have any specific questions? Yes, it can identify most VoIP > traffic, and yes, it can take a netflow feed. > I am looking for a few things. One is to be able to track utilization on a per AS basis both in realtime and over time. We have an appliance that can do this now, but I am not overly happy with the information I can get out of it. Regarding VoIP, I'd like to capture quality metrics in realtime and over time. Further, if ntop can perform these tasks -- which I understand it can-- then I am looking for feedback on how well it does in this regard. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
2009/6/29 Josh Luthman : > Maybe you're looking for something like Cacti? Or custom MRTG graphs. No, he sounds like he wants NTOP. Do you have any specific questions? Yes, it can identify most VoIP traffic, and yes, it can take a netflow feed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
Maybe you're looking for something like Cacti? Or custom MRTG graphs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: > I am looking for something more historical and high level. > > -Matt > > On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > > I prefer analyzing with Wireshark, as it is much easier and has a > > lot of > > tools. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > improbable, must be the truth." > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Matt Liotta > > wrote: > > > >> Anyone have any experience with ntop? Specially, with analysis of > >> netflow and voip. > >> > >> -Matt > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
I am looking for something more historical and high level. -Matt On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I prefer analyzing with Wireshark, as it is much easier and has a > lot of > tools. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Matt Liotta > wrote: > >> Anyone have any experience with ntop? Specially, with analysis of >> netflow and voip. >> >> -Matt >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ntop
I prefer analyzing with Wireshark, as it is much easier and has a lot of tools. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: > Anyone have any experience with ntop? Specially, with analysis of > netflow and voip. > > -Matt > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ntop
Anyone have any experience with ntop? Specially, with analysis of netflow and voip. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NTOP Question
I did, but their response was, "think about it... and I will too". -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Matt Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:01 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTOP Question > You might want to try the NTOP mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Mike Hammett wrote: >> *bump* >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:37 AM >> To: "WISPA List" >> Subject: [WISPA] NTOP Question >> >>> Does anyone else have a problem with the AS report not seeming to show >>> all >>> your traffic? >>> >>> The sent column shows the AS I'm on sending 1.3 GB at 100%. The >>> received >>> column shows 63 megs as being 72%. Something doesn't seem right here. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NTOP Question
You might want to try the NTOP mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Hammett wrote: > *bump* > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:37 AM > To: "WISPA List" > Subject: [WISPA] NTOP Question > >> Does anyone else have a problem with the AS report not seeming to show all >> your traffic? >> >> The sent column shows the AS I'm on sending 1.3 GB at 100%. The received >> column shows 63 megs as being 72%. Something doesn't seem right here. >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NTOP Question
*bump* -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:37 AM To: "WISPA List" Subject: [WISPA] NTOP Question > Does anyone else have a problem with the AS report not seeming to show all > your traffic? > > The sent column shows the AS I'm on sending 1.3 GB at 100%. The received > column shows 63 megs as being 72%. Something doesn't seem right here. > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NTOP Question
Does anyone else have a problem with the AS report not seeming to show all your traffic? The sent column shows the AS I'm on sending 1.3 GB at 100%. The received column shows 63 megs as being 72%. Something doesn't seem right here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
