Re: [WSG] Possible to embed Flash w/out keyboard trap problems?

2009-05-12 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

On 13/5/09 04:32, Rebecca Cox wrote:

I'm wondering if its possible to embed Flash into HTML, using only HTML
(no javascript) and for this to be keyboard accessible (HTML and Flash
content usable by keyboard, no keyboard trap problems, for say A-grade
list at http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/)

Test page: http://reb.net.nz/greed/index2.html

Seems to be fine in IE, but in Firefox you cannot get keyboard focus
onto the Flash without using the mouse.


I suspect http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1219 is why you can't 
move focus into the Flash without the keyboard.


The more usual problem in Firefox is not being able to move focus /out/ 
of the Flash object.



Just spotted
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2009/04/firefox_focus_and_actual_links_1.html
 but
this sounds as if it relies on the actionscript within the Flash itself
being written in a particular way, and possibly on the javascript used
to embed the flash into the HTML page.


Interesting, hadn't seen that before.

I'm not sure the technique is dependent on how you embed it, but it does 
look dependent on the JS DOM focus() method to move focus out of the 
Flash object.


So I'd suggest the answer to your wondering is no. :(

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Re: [WSG] Possible to embed Flash w/out keyboard trap problems?

2009-05-12 Thread Fuji kusaka
Hi all,

I have a very interesting project that need to be done in Xhtml/ Css but for
widescreen resolution.

Anyone can help me out or if you have some interesting links to help me out
get some inspiration and get to know how to it.

thanks

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Rebecca Cox  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm wondering if its possible to embed Flash into HTML, using only HTML (no
> javascript) and for this to be keyboard accessible (HTML and Flash content
> usable by keyboard, no keyboard trap problems, for say A-grade list at
> http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/)
>
> Test page: http://reb.net.nz/greed/index2.html
>
> Seems to be fine in IE, but in Firefox you cannot get keyboard focus onto
> the Flash without using the mouse.
>
> Just spotted
> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2009/04/firefox_focus_and_actual_links_1.html
>  but
> this sounds as if it relies on the actionscript within the Flash itself
> being written in a particular way, and possibly on the javascript used to
> embed the flash into the HTML page.
>
> Thanks,
> Rebecca
>
>
>
>
>
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[WSG] Possible to embed Flash w/out keyboard trap problems?

2009-05-12 Thread Rebecca Cox
Hi all,
I'm wondering if its possible to embed Flash into HTML, using only HTML (no
javascript) and for this to be keyboard accessible (HTML and Flash content
usable by keyboard, no keyboard trap problems, for say A-grade list at
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/)

Test page: http://reb.net.nz/greed/index2.html

Seems to be fine in IE, but in Firefox you cannot get keyboard focus onto
the Flash without using the mouse.

Just spotted
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2009/04/firefox_focus_and_actual_links_1.html
but
this sounds as if it relies on the actionscript within the Flash itself
being written in a particular way, and possibly on the javascript used to
embed the flash into the HTML page.

Thanks,
Rebecca


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Re: [WSG] using skip links

2009-05-12 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ben Lau wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am to build templates for a page, and below is a pseudo example of my code
> order:
> 
> -skip to #content-
> [div#navigation]
> 
> [h1]
> [div#promotion]
> [div.content]
> 
> I've always believed my h1 should always come after the 'content' anchor (or
> within a #content div), so when screen reader skips my navigation to the
> content, they're able to read the h1 as well.

There's no need for an anchor; put an id atribute in :

 


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[WSG] using skip links

2009-05-12 Thread Ben Lau
Hi all,

I am to build templates for a page, and below is a pseudo example of my code
order:

-skip to #content-
[div#navigation]

[h1]
[div#promotion]
[div.content]

I've always believed my h1 should always come after the 'content' anchor (or
within a #content div), so when screen reader skips my navigation to the
content, they're able to read the h1 as well. Ideally I'd like to connect
the h1 and div.content together, however I'm stuck with the div#promotion in
between as I need to adhere to the visual layout.

I was thinking of inserting another skip link to .content (and add another
anchor name before it), so it'll read as:

-skip to #pageContent-
[div#navigation]

[h1]
-skip promotion to #content-
[div#promotion]

[div.content]

My question is, is it bad to have a skip link right after you've skipped
from the top?
(hope I've explained it well...)

Thanks,
Ben


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