Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Thank you everyone for your input, its been very helpful! Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ulrich Maasmeier wrote: Hi! I´m just surfing a biz around, and it looks fine o me on Mac OSX 10.4 w Opera 8.52 There can´t be any Sizing problems to me, because Opera sizes the WHOLE PAGE, not just Text. All is working fine, and the hovering effects are nice and useful. Good Luck! Limasign On 2/28/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings my friends, I'm hoping you Mac and Linux folks would be so kind as to take a look at this site on your system's browsers. It validates and renders correctly on FF 1.5, Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0. The only issue I discovered so far is a layout break when I zoom the text to unbelievable sizes in FF. The URL is: http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com A screenshot for reference is located at: http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/images/draft08.gif Thank you so much! -- Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Hi! I´m just surfing a biz around, and it looks fine o me on Mac OSX 10.4 w Opera 8.52 There can´t be any Sizing problems to me, because Opera sizes the WHOLE PAGE, not just Text. All is working fine, and the hovering effects are nice and useful. Good Luck! Limasign On 2/28/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings my friends, > > I'm hoping you Mac and Linux folks would be so kind as to take a look at > this site on your system's browsers. > > It validates and renders correctly on FF 1.5, Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0. The > only issue I discovered so far is a layout break when I zoom the text to > unbelievable sizes in FF. > > The URL is: http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com > > A screenshot for reference is located at: > http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/images/draft08.gif > > Thank you so much! > -- > Joseph R. B. Taylor > Sites by Joe, LLC > http://sitesbyjoe.com > (609)335-3076 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
On 06/02/28 19:59 Joseph R. B. Taylor apparently typed: I have my nav text set to 1.0em. I have the height of each li set to 1.75em. I wrongly assumed that the li would expand along with the text since they both used ems for sizing... If you do much font sizing and element nesting you're liable to get bitten by using em for line-height. See: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/line-height-inherit.html -- "Blessed are they whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the Lord." Psalm 119:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Looks fine to me on: * Konquerer 3.5.1 * FF 1.5 * Opera 8.5 on Fedora If you want to run Linux but don't want to install it have a look at running a VMware virtual appliance via vmplayer -> http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/ or just download a linux distro on a live cd like kubuntu -> http://kubuntu.org. It'll do the trick for you. Great for linux browser testing. Cheers James On 3/1/06, nic stage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 2/28/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Same thing is happening on the PC. > > > > I have my nav text set to 1.0em. > > > > I have the height of each li set to 1.75em. > > > > I wrongly assumed that the li would expand along with the text since > > they both used ems for sizing... > > > i'm a bit of a newb here, but possibly using min-height on the s would > fix the problem? in FF1.5 on windows, when the text size is increased by 3 > or more notches, the "logoBox" and "flash" divs are getting pushed down and > not aligning with the light blue stripe in the background (the background > color shows through). > > really nice visual design overall. maybe someday i'll be that good. :) > > > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
On 2/28/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Same thing is happening on the PC.I have my nav text set to 1.0em.I have the height of each li set to 1.75em.I wrongly assumed that the li would expand along with the text sincethey both used ems for sizing... i'm a bit of a newb here, but possibly using min-height on the s would fix the problem? in FF1.5 on windows, when the text size is increased by 3 or more notches, the "logoBox" and "flash" divs are getting pushed down and not aligning with the light blue stripe in the background (the background color shows through). really nice visual design overall. maybe someday i'll be that good. :)
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Remove the height property altogether. There's no need for it. Just pad the element and the will expand. Also, there's extra, unnecessary CSS declarations in all the pseudo-elements. Styling the element by itself applies to all the pseudos as well so there's no need to repeat the same declarations. Make sense? On Feb 28, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: Same thing is happening on the PC. I have my nav text set to 1.0em. I have the height of each li set to 1.75em. I wrongly assumed that the li would expand along with the text since they both used ems for sizing... Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] piñon jorge wrote: Mac designer here... I looked at it with FF 1.5 and Safari, and even Camino and they break the same. On smaller font sizes (14pt) as was mentioned, but I also see a problem with larger font sizes when any of the nav elements text breaks to a second line (i.e. Realtor® Directory). Your s don't seem to expand along with the contained elements. I didn't have time to look through the CSS to see why, but maybe there's a height property added which shouldn't be? I'm curious to see if this is happening to anyone on a PC. Jorge On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: Office rats steal mice... My god, I never tried REDUCING the font size during testing! I tried adding some items to the #mainCol (the main column) such as min-width, width, block display, but it still breaks on the size reduction. Any ideas would be swell! http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/ Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joshua Street wrote: On 3/1/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It validates and renders correctly on FF 1.5, Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0. The only issue I discovered so far is a layout break when I zoom the text to unbelievable sizes in FF. "Unbelievable sizes" here being one step DOWN (decreasing font size) in Firefox1.5/Win, or two steps down in IE. I wouldn't discount any of the offered sizes in IE as "unbelievable", even IF they're smaller (and the trend on this list is to advocate larger/unchanged default font sizes). That aside, nice design, looks fine in FF/Lin. I'd check Safari for you but someone stole my Mac's mouse (apparently we have a pest-deficiency in the office!)... Josh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Same thing is happening on the PC. I have my nav text set to 1.0em. I have the height of each li set to 1.75em. I wrongly assumed that the li would expand along with the text since they both used ems for sizing... Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] piñon jorge wrote: Mac designer here... I looked at it with FF 1.5 and Safari, and even Camino and they break the same. On smaller font sizes (14pt) as was mentioned, but I also see a problem with larger font sizes when any of the nav elements text breaks to a second line (i.e. Realtor® Directory). Your s don't seem to expand along with the contained elements. I didn't have time to look through the CSS to see why, but maybe there's a height property added which shouldn't be? I'm curious to see if this is happening to anyone on a PC. Jorge On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: Office rats steal mice... My god, I never tried REDUCING the font size during testing! I tried adding some items to the #mainCol (the main column) such as min-width, width, block display, but it still breaks on the size reduction. Any ideas would be swell! http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/ Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joshua Street wrote: On 3/1/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It validates and renders correctly on FF 1.5, Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0. The only issue I discovered so far is a layout break when I zoom the text to unbelievable sizes in FF. "Unbelievable sizes" here being one step DOWN (decreasing font size) in Firefox1.5/Win, or two steps down in IE. I wouldn't discount any of the offered sizes in IE as "unbelievable", even IF they're smaller (and the trend on this list is to advocate larger/unchanged default font sizes). That aside, nice design, looks fine in FF/Lin. I'd check Safari for you but someone stole my Mac's mouse (apparently we have a pest-deficiency in the office!)... Josh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Good call Susanne! Adding the float clear to the left column fixed the text size column break issue! Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Susanne Jäger wrote: Joseph R. B. Taylor schrieb, am 01.03.06 00:12: I tried adding some items to the #mainCol (the main column) such as min-width, width, block display, but it still breaks on the size reduction. Any ideas would be swell! http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/ adding clear: left; to #leftCol helps. Without this #leftCol respects the float of the #logoBox with small font sizes. Susanne ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Mac designer here... I looked at it with FF 1.5 and Safari, and even Camino and they break the same. On smaller font sizes (14pt) as was mentioned, but I also see a problem with larger font sizes when any of the nav elements text breaks to a second line (i.e. Realtor® Directory). Your s don't seem to expand along with the contained elements. I didn't have time to look through the CSS to see why, but maybe there's a height property added which shouldn't be? I'm curious to see if this is happening to anyone on a PC. Jorge On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: Office rats steal mice... My god, I never tried REDUCING the font size during testing! I tried adding some items to the #mainCol (the main column) such as min-width, width, block display, but it still breaks on the size reduction. Any ideas would be swell! http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/ Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joshua Street wrote: On 3/1/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It validates and renders correctly on FF 1.5, Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0. The only issue I discovered so far is a layout break when I zoom the text to unbelievable sizes in FF. "Unbelievable sizes" here being one step DOWN (decreasing font size) in Firefox1.5/Win, or two steps down in IE. I wouldn't discount any of the offered sizes in IE as "unbelievable", even IF they're smaller (and the trend on this list is to advocate larger/unchanged default font sizes). That aside, nice design, looks fine in FF/Lin. I'd check Safari for you but someone stole my Mac's mouse (apparently we have a pest-deficiency in the office!)... Josh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: Office rats steal mice... My god, I never tried REDUCING the font size during testing! I tried adding some items to the #mainCol (the main column) such as min-width, width, block display, but it still breaks on the size reduction. Any ideas would be swell! http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/ With FF 1.5.0.1/OpenBSD, the menu is pushed to the center of the page, the "This is the Main" is between the menu and the headlines section, and the "heading that will appear on each page" and the content underneath is pushed below your whitehouse advert. It's funny, because my FF 1.5.0.1 on windows doesn't do that, and it looks fine. Don't worry about the OpenBSD version, .1% of users will visit your page with that config. Bryan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Joseph R. B. Taylor schrieb, am 01.03.06 00:12: I tried adding some items to the #mainCol (the main column) such as min-width, width, block display, but it still breaks on the size reduction. Any ideas would be swell! http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/ adding clear: left; to #leftCol helps. Without this #leftCol respects the float of the #logoBox with small font sizes. Susanne -- http://sujag.de - Webentwicklung und -beratung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lottumstr. 22, 10119 Berlin, Tel: 030 - 440 483 47 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
Office rats steal mice... My god, I never tried REDUCING the font size during testing! I tried adding some items to the #mainCol (the main column) such as min-width, width, block display, but it still breaks on the size reduction. Any ideas would be swell! http://cmcaor.sitesbyjoe.com/ Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joshua Street wrote: On 3/1/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It validates and renders correctly on FF 1.5, Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0. The only issue I discovered so far is a layout break when I zoom the text to unbelievable sizes in FF. "Unbelievable sizes" here being one step DOWN (decreasing font size) in Firefox1.5/Win, or two steps down in IE. I wouldn't discount any of the offered sizes in IE as "unbelievable", even IF they're smaller (and the trend on this list is to advocate larger/unchanged default font sizes). That aside, nice design, looks fine in FF/Lin. I'd check Safari for you but someone stole my Mac's mouse (apparently we have a pest-deficiency in the office!)... Josh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Quick Site Check Please
On 3/1/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It validates and renders correctly on FF 1.5, Opera 8.5 and IE 6.0. The > only issue I discovered so far is a layout break when I zoom the text to > unbelievable sizes in FF. "Unbelievable sizes" here being one step DOWN (decreasing font size) in Firefox1.5/Win, or two steps down in IE. I wouldn't discount any of the offered sizes in IE as "unbelievable", even IF they're smaller (and the trend on this list is to advocate larger/unchanged default font sizes). That aside, nice design, looks fine in FF/Lin. I'd check Safari for you but someone stole my Mac's mouse (apparently we have a pest-deficiency in the office!)... Josh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
