Re: [Xastir] IGate into socal.aprs2.net?

2007-08-24 Thread Craig Anderson


On Aug 24, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Craig Anderson wrote:


Or is it that Xastir marks a site as being from the TNC
because it is first seen by the TNC?


I believe if it is heard by the TNC at all (doesn't have to be
first?) the flag gets set.  Xastir treats RF-heard stations as a
higher priority than INET-heard stations for this, so if both flags
are set I think it assumes it's RF.


Excellent!  That makes sense.




But when I bring up another Xastir on another machine
that is Internet-only I don't see a whole lot of sites that
my TNC Xastir sees (all within my 100 mile filter).  Are
the IGate servers broken?  Or do they hide some of the
digipeaters?  Can't be an Xastir problem can it?  ;-)


You might have some filtering turned on in your INET interface(s).


I have a filter on the INET interface set to limit stations
to within 100 miles.



You might not have global igating and per-interface igating turned
on.


I have both set.


You might not have a passcode entered on the per-interface
properties dialog.


Yes, got one of those.

I watched the "View->Incoming Data" window and saw
my Xastir igate packets from the TNC to socal.aprs2.net
but the data never showed up on socal.aprs2.net, as
viewed in my other Xastir with INET only.

My problem is that there were quite a few stations that
showed up in my xastir with a TNC & INET that did
not show up in my xastir with only an INET interface,
some of them very important digipeaters.  I was trying
to igate them to socal.aprs2.net.  All the interface
filters were set to 100 miles and centered on the same
location.  All the missing stations were well within 100 miles.

I would expect that if the socal.aprs2.net server were
working correctly then both of my machines would show the
same objects.  But with maybe 20% of objects consistently
missing from the INET-only machine over a period of 2 days?
I think something's broken.  Am I missing something?

With these missing objects, my TNC machine was not hearing
them directly, it was hearing them through digipeaters.  These
missing machines should not be missing from the server.

Thanks very much for any sanity you can offer,
Craig
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Re: [Xastir] IGating

2007-08-24 Thread Steve Friis

Greg Eigsti wrote:

>>How do I use Findu to see if I am IGating?



The tool mentioned by VE7MKF is a better iGate 'test' than Findu.  
However if you know you are iGating someone (or think you are) you can 
look them up in findu and see their raw data.  Just change the 
callsign to the one that you are interested in...  Looking at Findu's 
raw data is a good way to force yourself to learn how to read raw APRS 
packets ;)


Raw data for my truck
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=KD7UBJ-7

Visual data (map) for my truck
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=kd7ubj-7


I'm also thinking that Findu is tweaked or at least the data is stale 
right now.  I went out and blasted a packet from my truck to my iGate 
and Findu does not report it either via its raw or map page.  However 
if I look at the www.db0anf.de page for my iGate I can see that it saw 
my iGate gating my truck very recently.   Hmmm, anybody have any idea 
why Findu is stale (or why my brain is on vacation)? ;)


Findu raw data for my truck
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=KD7UBJ-7

db0anf.de data for my USAM digi
http://www.db0anf.de/hamweb/aprsdb/showdata/USAM/shdigiusers?sortdigiusers=ld 



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So it was just my supposition that Findu was current, and nothing that I 
was doing wrong.
Way cool. Since the RF pollution is so high here, I am trying to lower 
it some to that low power stations can be heard, or at least stand a 
chance. As it has been, there was not much chance for the low power 
stations in this area getting heard. My hope is that once heard and 
gated here, then the need to repeatedly be digipeated will be lowered.


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Re: [Xastir] IGating

2007-08-24 Thread Greg Eigsti

>>How do I use Findu to see if I am IGating?



The tool mentioned by VE7MKF is a better iGate 'test' than Findu.   
However if you know you are iGating someone (or think you are) you  
can look them up in findu and see their raw data.  Just change the  
callsign to the one that you are interested in...  Looking at Findu's  
raw data is a good way to force yourself to learn how to read raw  
APRS packets ;)


Raw data for my truck
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=KD7UBJ-7

Visual data (map) for my truck
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=kd7ubj-7


I'm also thinking that Findu is tweaked or at least the data is stale  
right now.  I went out and blasted a packet from my truck to my iGate  
and Findu does not report it either via its raw or map page.  However  
if I look at the www.db0anf.de page for my iGate I can see that it  
saw my iGate gating my truck very recently.   Hmmm, anybody have any  
idea why Findu is stale (or why my brain is on vacation)? ;)


Findu raw data for my truck
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=KD7UBJ-7

db0anf.de data for my USAM digi
http://www.db0anf.de/hamweb/aprsdb/showdata/USAM/shdigiusers? 
sortdigiusers=ld


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Re: [Xastir] IGating

2007-08-24 Thread Steve Friis

Mike Fenske wrote:

Steve Friis wrote:

Thanks. OK I checked all of these. What else might I be missing? How 
do I use Findu to see if I am IGating?


I would like to get this working to lighten the load in the Las 
Cruces/El Paso area. Since I am really dumb when it comes to Linux, 
etc. all help is much appreciated.


Steve/WM5Z


Hi Steve. Have a look here to see the stations you are igating:

http://www.db0anf.de/hamweb/aprsdb/showdata/WM5Z-1/shdigiusers?sortdigiusers=ld 



Looks like a couple of stations gated within the last few minutes.

Mike Fenske
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OK. Thanks all. I guess I am IGating. Just not very many stations are 
using us. Not sure at this point what I need to do. Seems that most 
stations are still digi'd to up north to Albuquerque, which sure is 
tying up a lot of resources.



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RE: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama)

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Rich
GraphicsMagick-1.1.7-24
ImageMagick-6.3.0.0-16
ImageMagick-Magick++-6.3.0.0-16
ImageMagick-devel-6.3.0.0-16



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Out of curiosity, was the GM precompiled and if so what package was it
from?

This is for the good of the group.

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Curt, WE7U wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, John Ronan wrote:
>
>
>> also 'upgrade' to GraphicsMagick.
>>
>> After doing so (using --quantum-depth=16) I get
>>
>> Magick: No decode delegate for this image format ().
>>
>> I've been playing with the different mapping types (seeing as I can
>> use them), and I get this message when I enable TXRadar.geo and some
>> of the others.
>>
>> map.png: PNG image data, 6000 x 2500, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced
>>
>> I've added compiled and install libpng so thats there.
>>
>
> You may need to reconfigure/recompille GM and make sure it has PNG
> support.
>
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Re: [Xastir] IGating

2007-08-24 Thread Mike Fenske

Steve Friis wrote:

Thanks. OK I checked all of these. What else might I be missing? How do 
I use Findu to see if I am IGating?


I would like to get this working to lighten the load in the Las 
Cruces/El Paso area. Since I am really dumb when it comes to Linux, etc. 
all help is much appreciated.


Steve/WM5Z


Hi Steve. Have a look here to see the stations you are igating:

http://www.db0anf.de/hamweb/aprsdb/showdata/WM5Z-1/shdigiusers?sortdigiusers=ld

Looks like a couple of stations gated within the last few minutes.

Mike Fenske
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Re: [Xastir] IGating

2007-08-24 Thread Steve Friis

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Steve Friis wrote:

  

I don't think I am IGating stations, although that is what I think I am
set up for. What might I be missing?



Check that you have a passcode entered on the particular interface
that connects to the INET.  Check that you've got gating set in the
proper direction(s) on that same dialog PLUS check the same sorts of
things in the global settings on the File->Configure->Defaults
dialog.

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Thanks. OK I checked all of these. What else might I be missing? How do 
I use Findu to see if I am IGating?


I would like to get this working to lighten the load in the Las 
Cruces/El Paso area. Since I am really dumb when it comes to Linux, etc. 
all help is much appreciated.


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RE: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Rich
We could hit up the programmer of agwtracker - he has maps



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So what do we need to do ?

Learn about google map API's ?




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That would be *AWESOME*

Perhaps my overloaded brain and willingness to learn may start towards
this.. umm yea right lol

tnx and 73's
Stephen
K1LNX

On 8/24/07, Curt, WE7U < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Stephen - K1LNX wrote:
>
> > One question to the dev's. Is it possible to integrate google maps into
> > Xastir?
>
> It's been talked about.  Gerry Creager did some asking of the Google
> guys and they said something to the effect of:  "Yes, please use
> it!".
>
> Just need a developer with a bit of free time and the desire to look
> into it.
>
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RE: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Rich
So what do we need to do ?

Learn about google map API's ?




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That would be *AWESOME*

Perhaps my overloaded brain and willingness to learn may start towards
this.. umm yea right lol

tnx and 73's
Stephen
K1LNX

On 8/24/07, Curt, WE7U < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Stephen - K1LNX wrote:
>
> > One question to the dev's. Is it possible to integrate google maps into
> > Xastir?
>
> It's been talked about.  Gerry Creager did some asking of the Google
> guys and they said something to the effect of:  "Yes, please use
> it!".
>
> Just need a developer with a bit of free time and the desire to look
> into it.
>
> --
> Curt, WE7U: http://www.eskimo.com/%7Earcher/>>
> XASTIR: 
>   "Lotto:  A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
> "Windows:  Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
> The world DOES revolve around me:  I picked the coordinate system!
>



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Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

2007-08-24 Thread Stephen - K1LNX
That would be *AWESOME*

Perhaps my overloaded brain and willingness to learn may start towards
this.. umm yea right lol

tnx and 73's
Stephen
K1LNX

On 8/24/07, Curt, WE7U < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Stephen - K1LNX wrote:
>
> > One question to the dev's. Is it possible to integrate google maps into
> > Xastir?
>
> It's been talked about.  Gerry Creager did some asking of the Google
> guys and they said something to the effect of:  "Yes, please use
> it!".
>
> Just need a developer with a bit of free time and the desire to look
> into it.
>
> --
> Curt, WE7U: http://www.eskimo.com/%7Earcher/>>
> XASTIR: 
>   "Lotto:  A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
> "Windows:  Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
> The world DOES revolve around me:  I picked the coordinate system!
>



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Re: [Xastir] Someone is sending out bad data...

2007-08-24 Thread Richard Polivka, N6NKO

Curt,

No TNC present, all INET feed.

I will get INET logging running on BigBox and go from there.

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

  

This may be a repeat of a previous issue but xastir is spewing this out
today ...

extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179
extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179
extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179
extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179

Unfortunately, this is all I am getting out of it. Now, what debug level
should I turn on to find out where the bogus data is coming from?



INET logging or TNC logging perhaps.

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RE: [Xastir] trail colors

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Rich
I did the dodgy - i set every trail color to cyan

I know - i was in a rush



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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Andrew Rich wrote:

> If I want to lock down my trail colors to all the same, what do I set
"temp"
> to ?
>
> Is is a hex number ?

It's a integer which is an index into the trail_colors array.  See
main.c around line 9259 or so.

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Re: [Xastir] Demo'ing Xastir

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Dave H wrote:

> I wondered about the log file - just replaying it back.. Having run an
> internet link at work for Xastir I have a 700meg log I can let run and
> should provide entertainment most of the day but if anything there is too
> much going on (even using my tnc.log from home) - I wonder if there is any
> way of slowing down the playback?

Main.c:

#define REPLAY_DELAY   0/* delay between replayed packets in sec, 0 is 
ok */

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Re: [Xastir] Someone is sending out bad data...

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

> This may be a repeat of a previous issue but xastir is spewing this out
> today ...
>
> extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
> }d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179
> extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
> }d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179
> extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
> }d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179
> extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern
> }d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH": 24,-179
>
> Unfortunately, this is all I am getting out of it. Now, what debug level
> should I turn on to find out where the bogus data is coming from?

INET logging or TNC logging perhaps.

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Re: [Xastir] trail colors

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Andrew Rich wrote:

> If I want to lock down my trail colors to all the same, what do I set "temp"
> to ?
>
> Is is a hex number ?

It's a integer which is an index into the trail_colors array.  See
main.c around line 9259 or so.

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Re: [Xastir] IGate into socal.aprs2.net?

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Craig Anderson wrote:

> Or is it that Xastir marks a site as being from the TNC
> because it is first seen by the TNC?

I believe if it is heard by the TNC at all (doesn't have to be
first?) the flag gets set.  Xastir treats RF-heard stations as a
higher priority than INET-heard stations for this, so if both flags
are set I think it assumes it's RF.


> But when I bring up another Xastir on another machine
> that is Internet-only I don't see a whole lot of sites that
> my TNC Xastir sees (all within my 100 mile filter).  Are
> the IGate servers broken?  Or do they hide some of the
> digipeaters?  Can't be an Xastir problem can it?  ;-)

You might have some filtering turned on in your INET interface(s).

You might not have global igating and per-interface igating turned
on.

You might not have a passcode entered on the per-interface
properties dialog.

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Re: [Xastir] IGating

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Steve Friis wrote:

> I don't think I am IGating stations, although that is what I think I am
> set up for. What might I be missing?

Check that you have a passcode entered on the particular interface
that connects to the INET.  Check that you've got gating set in the
proper direction(s) on that same dialog PLUS check the same sorts of
things in the global settings on the File->Configure->Defaults
dialog.

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Re: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama)

2007-08-24 Thread Richard Polivka, N6NKO
Out of curiosity, was the GM precompiled and if so what package was it 
from?


This is for the good of the group.

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, John Ronan wrote:

  

also 'upgrade' to GraphicsMagick.

After doing so (using --quantum-depth=16) I get

Magick: No decode delegate for this image format ().

I've been playing with the different mapping types (seeing as I can
use them), and I get this message when I enable TXRadar.geo and some
of the others.

map.png: PNG image data, 6000 x 2500, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced

I've added compiled and install libpng so thats there.



You may need to reconfigure/recompille GM and make sure it has PNG
support.

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Re: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama)

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, John Ronan wrote:

> also 'upgrade' to GraphicsMagick.
>
> After doing so (using --quantum-depth=16) I get
>
> Magick: No decode delegate for this image format ().
>
> I've been playing with the different mapping types (seeing as I can
> use them), and I get this message when I enable TXRadar.geo and some
> of the others.
>
> map.png: PNG image data, 6000 x 2500, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced
>
> I've added compiled and install libpng so thats there.

You may need to reconfigure/recompille GM and make sure it has PNG
support.

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RE: [Xastir] imagemagick and snapshots

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Rich
No problem - wilco

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Subject: Re: [Xastir] imagemagick and snapshots


On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Andrew Rich wrote:

> I found that XASTIR was getting as far as creating the snapshot.xpm file
and
> then not proceeding to the png
>
> It looks like Imagemagick has dropped support by default of the xpm
convert
> function.

You may have to compile IM from scratch and add the format back in.


> Is there also a chance to save directly into a web server folder ?
>
> Like /srv/www/htdocs/xastir.jpg ??
>
When I need that sort of thing I just Xastir save the snapshot in
it's normal place, then make a symlink to it from the htdocs
directory.  Then the web server can find it.  You may also have to
change a setting in your web server and restart it so that it can
follow symlinks.

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Re: [Xastir] imagemagick and snapshots

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Andrew Rich wrote:

> I found that XASTIR was getting as far as creating the snapshot.xpm file and
> then not proceeding to the png
>
> It looks like Imagemagick has dropped support by default of the xpm convert
> function.

You may have to compile IM from scratch and add the format back in.


> Is there also a chance to save directly into a web server folder ?
>
> Like /srv/www/htdocs/xastir.jpg ??
>
When I need that sort of thing I just Xastir save the snapshot in
it's normal place, then make a symlink to it from the htdocs
directory.  Then the web server can find it.  You may also have to
change a setting in your web server and restart it so that it can
follow symlinks.

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Re: [Xastir] Screen updates

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Andrew Rich wrote:

> Is there are a way to force a screen update more often ?

Take a look at the UpdateTime() function in main.c.

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Re: [Xastir] Display levels with GNIS files

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Alex Carver wrote:

> Is it inside Xastir or is the
> threshold in the GNIS file (keyed to population)?

Yea, it's actually keyed to population, but the latest GNIS files
are missing that column as I recall.  That actual population
switching points are hard-coded in Xastir.

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Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Stephen - K1LNX wrote:

> One question to the dev's. Is it possible to integrate google maps into
> Xastir?

It's been talked about.  Gerry Creager did some asking of the Google
guys and they said something to the effect of:  "Yes, please use
it!".

Just need a developer with a bit of free time and the desire to look
into it.

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Re: [Xastir] Level control for GNIS files

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Alex Carver wrote:

> Where is the source of data that determines whether
> Xastir shows a particular point in a GNIS file or not
> at any given zoom level?

Hard-coded in the C-code.

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Re: [Xastir] standard err

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Jason Winningham wrote:

> xastir >/dev/null 2>&1 &
>
> which means "redirect file descriptor 1 to the file specified, then
> redirect file descriptor 2 to the same place".

You can also do this:

(xastir 2>&1) | tee xastir_error.log

Which will pipe STDERR and STDOUT to the screen and to a file.

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Re: [Xastir] std err

2007-08-24 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, vic wrote:

> How can I stop the error messages xastir spits out when started
> from xterm and put into the background like this; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> xastir &
>
> That returns the xterminal for my use, but is annoying to get my
> work blown off the screen by messages from xastir while it's
> running.  I know somebody here knows how to take care of this.

(xastir 2>&1) >/dev/null
or
(xastir 2>&1) > filename.txt

Those are BASH or BOURNE redirects for STDERR to STDOUT, then of
course piping STDOUT to a file or to NULL.  Run the first in a
subshell () and you should get everything redirected to STDOUT.

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Re: [Xastir] Yippee!!! boxen is unwedged...

2007-08-24 Thread Gerry Creager
If we want to move to it, I've got Xastir lists already established on 
it... in anticipation.


gerry

J. Lance Cotton wrote:

on 8/23/2007 7:28 AM Jason Winningham said the following:

Possibilities that have been mentioned are the sourceforge servers or
Gerry's server at TAMU.  I can also provide mailman service here at UAH.


The TAMU system for mailing lists isn't technically Gerry's. The University
hosts a LISTSERV server that apparently is open to anyone. I recall years
ago there was a specific policy about who was allowed to have a list on it,
but I can't see that anywhere except one place that says the primary list
owner's email should be linked to the official university email account
(which is no problem for Gerry.)

http://listserv.tamu.edu/

This LISTSERV hosts thousands of lists and would not go down for any length
of time without immediate action.

-Lance KJ5O


If we move it to a server that's also used for lots of other lists, it
is more like to get problems noticed/resolved in a more timely manner. 
My own server is down for no more than a few minutes a year (because it

is considered critical), and I'd guess it is the least available of the
three I mentioned.





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