[xmail] Re: SPF
> And as much as I am not a fan of MS or AOL, between the two of them > they control way more than 0.001% of the mail traffic on the > internet. If you add all the hotmail users and aol users, I would > argue that you have more than 30% of the internet mail users just in > those two groups. Plus even if just those two support SPF, that > would cut down on about 50% of the SPAM, because it is those two > addresses that spammers forge and use a lot of the time. Maybe it is > not a perfect solution, but heck if I/we could cut out 30% of the > SPAM -- that would be an awesome start :) The spammers are not stupid, so they don't use @[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. anymore and SPF is useless. ;( - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
No you shouldn't but you should also look for developments which show that a standard will be accepted by the majority and incorparate that one. I have now idea how far this SPF thing is in that direction. The fact that major players are backing it suggests it might be a good idea.=20 > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Davide Libenzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: vrijdag 26 maart 2004 1:56 > Aan: XMail mailing list > Onderwerp: [xmail] Re: SPF >=20 > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote: >=20 > > Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/ =20 > I agree, I=20 > > would love to see Xmail have more spam fighting=20 > capabilities in it. =20 > > The only way we are going to see more usage of it on the=20 > internet is=20 > > if we actually put it in place :) >=20 > So, should I drop in code for every sub-standard that pops up=20 > here and there used at most by 0.001% of the internet? >=20 >=20 >=20 > - Davide >=20 >=20 > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
> Then do an SPF filter in Perl. You don't need to do it inside XMail. You > have all the info inside the spool file XMail header. No? Good point. SpamAssassin 2.70 is going to support SPF, so we could just have SA do the SPF lookups instead of XMail. That is fair. What I am more interested in at this point is whether or not forwarding is going to work correctly with XMail. http://spf.pobox.com/emailforwarders.pdf - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote: > I really do understand your point :) But look at the amount of spam -- > something needs to be done. It looks like some serious players are backing > this particular idea. > So what about going back the discussion that was on the list for a while > about a "filter" at is triggered just before the "data" section so that a > lookup like SPF or one of the others (if SPF doesn't make it). Then do an SPF filter in Perl. You don't need to do it inside XMail. You have all the info inside the spool file XMail header. No? - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
I really do understand your point :) But look at the amount of spam -- something needs to be done. It looks like some serious players are backing this particular idea. So what about going back the discussion that was on the list for a while about a "filter" at is triggered just before the "data" section so that a lookup like SPF or one of the others (if SPF doesn't make it). And as much as I am not a fan of MS or AOL, between the two of them they control way more than 0.001% of the mail traffic on the internet. If you add all the hotmail users and aol users, I would argue that you have more than 30% of the internet mail users just in those two groups. Plus even if just those two support SPF, that would cut down on about 50% of the SPAM, because it is those two addresses that spammers forge and use a lot of the time. Maybe it is not a perfect solution, but heck if I/we could cut out 30% of the SPAM -- that would be an awesome start :) S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:56 PM To: XMail mailing list Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote: > Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/ I agree, I > would love to see Xmail have more spam fighting capabilities in it. > The only way we are going to see more usage of it on the internet is > if we actually put it in place :) So, should I drop in code for every sub-standard that pops up here and there used at most by 0.001% of the internet? - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature -- File: smime.p7s - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote: > Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/ I agree, I would > love to see Xmail have more spam fighting capabilities in it. The only way > we are going to see more usage of it on the internet is if we actually put > it in place :) So, should I drop in code for every sub-standard that pops up here and there used at most by 0.001% of the internet? - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/ I agree, I would love to see Xmail have more spam fighting capabilities in it. The only way we are going to see more usage of it on the internet is if we actually put it in place :) Sorry, wanted to add my thoughts -- this SPAM thing is really getting to me and my customers... Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:13 PM To: XMail mailing list Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote: > > > http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html > > > => SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail > > > What about XMail? > > I figured I would bring this topic back up. :) AOL is already > publishing SPF records for their domain. Any email server with SPF > support is able to automatically filtering out forged aol.com email. > The support for SPF is growing (especially with big ISPs like AOL > supporting it now), and I would really like to see SPF support in an > upcoming version of XMail. Any chance we might see SPF support in 1.18 or 2.x? I'm sorry but my answer is the same. If I had to add piece of codes to fit all those pseudo-standards (that born today to die tomorrow), XMail would be bloated enough only for that. When/if a decent percent of the internet will support such standard, I will add the code. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature -- File: smime.p7s - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote: > > > http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html > > > => SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail > > > What about XMail? > > I figured I would bring this topic back up. :) AOL is already publishing > SPF records for their domain. Any email server with SPF support is able to > automatically filtering out forged aol.com email. The support for SPF is > growing (especially with big ISPs like AOL supporting it now), and I would > really like to see SPF support in an upcoming version of XMail. Any chance > we might see SPF support in 1.18 or 2.x? I'm sorry but my answer is the same. If I had to add piece of codes to fit all those pseudo-standards (that born today to die tomorrow), XMail would be bloated enough only for that. When/if a decent percent of the internet will support such standard, I will add the code. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SPF
> > http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html > > => SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail > > What about XMail? I figured I would bring this topic back up. :) AOL is already publishing SPF records for their domain. Any email server with SPF support is able to automatically filtering out forged aol.com email. The support for SPF is growing (especially with big ISPs like AOL supporting it now), and I would really like to see SPF support in an upcoming version of XMail. Any chance we might see SPF support in 1.18 or 2.x? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Problem: [503 need RCPT
command [data]] X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: SmartPost phpmailer [version 1.62] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-original-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-list: xmail Hello! I have some virtual domains working with my server. I have small big problem - with one e-mail and my virtual domain I have received this error: > [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[503 need RCPT command [data]] > > > [<01>] Error sending message [1080133625222.85868571.smtp] from [wiwat.pl]. > > ID: > Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Server: [204.127.202.26] > > > [<02>] The reason of the delivery failure was: > > 503 need RCPT command [data] > > > [<05>] Here is listed the initial part of the message: > > X-AV-Scanned: yes 17d7f1a5b3aba1cd574222f2b4173a75 > Received: from z9s6w1 (217.75.55.55:1753) > by smtp.wiwat.pl with [XMail 1.17 (Linux/Ix86) ESMTP Server] > id for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:07:04 +0100 > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "P.P.H.U. 2M Sp. z o.o." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: : e-mail > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:09:31 +0100 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="=_NextPart_000_0011_01C411A9.A0D0CC00" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >From another domain: wiwat.pl - all works OK - this domain is holded on the same machine What is wrong? What I need to do? And pls note, that the recipient couldn't send an e-mail to domain 2m.com.pl - he received the error message to!!! HELP ME... + MORCOM - POLSKA web: http://www.wiwat.pl - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Yahoo groups again
> I still haven't upgraded to1.17, so maybe I shouldn't be posting this, > but I figured someone might want to have a look... Upgrading to 1.17 should solve the problem. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Yahoo groups again
This is what I get when yahoogroups sends me an e-mail (With CheckMailerDomain=0). This same message wouldn't go through if CheckMailerDomain was 1. I still haven't upgraded to1.17, so maybe I shouldn't be posting this, but I figured someone might want to have a look... If you don't, just ignore me. :) "myhost""myhost""66.218.66.82""2004-03-25 12:33:17" "n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com""ultinet.org" "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" "[EMAIL PROTECTED]""S26A3A""RECV=OK""""2003""" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Psync don't get them all
That 's the cure, thanks. Dick At 03:46 25-03-2004, you wrote: >On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, D.Spork wrote: > > > Hi, > > The suggestions in this answer are already in my system, but don't give > the > > solution for the problem. > > Following the example only mail with a "to" to a fellins.net or pets.org > > user are retrieved from the mail box, but a "to: undisclosed recipients" > > (without a domain) stays in the mailbox and fill it up. > > Davide-- Is it possible to do a dele after each retr to the external > > pop-server? may be controlled by a *.* domain name in a pop3links.tab > record? > > > > Or any better idea? > >Do you have "Pop3SyncErrorAccount" set? > > > >- Davide > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]