RE: [Zope] Is anyone know when Zope was born ???
Hello! Very interesting! Could you please publish the story somewhere on zope.org? On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Paul Everitt wrote: > As far as I'm concerned, Zope was born Saturday, June 8, 1996. This was > Jim Fulton's plane trip back from IPC4: > > http://www.python.org/workshops/1996-06/ > > Beyond that, Zope (as a unification of previous software) was announced > in November 1998 and released in December 1998. > > DC had some prior art in the field before IPC4, such as my W3C tech note > on the "ILU Requester", technology for making web servers talk CORBA to > services. Also, Brian Lloyd had, with someone else here at the time, > cooked up an early ORB to handle message dispatch from the web into > Python. However, our work was tiny compared to Jim's plane trip back. > > I pick the 1996 date because, well, from a marketing perspective it > makes Zope look more mature. :^) But that's the best date. Here's "the > rest of the story". > > Jim joined Digital Creations about a week before IPC4. He had already > scheduled to go to IPC4, and I had scheduled to go and teach a CGI > class. Instead, I decided to go on vacation and make him teach the > class. Slight problem: he had never heard of CGI. > > So on the plane ride there he read the CGI spec, some background > material, and rewrote my presentation. In the process he decided CGI > was broken and needed a bunch of things, primarily object orientation. > The "python object publisher" (an ORB) was conceived during the > conference and was largely written on the plane ride back. The ORB > quickly took over our consulting business. Within a year we added a > template system, then a persistent object system, then... > > That's the story. So there, we have a birthdate! > > --Paul Oleg. Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Is anyone know when Zope was born ???
+---[ Paul Everitt ]-- | | As far as I'm concerned, Zope was born Saturday, June 8, 1996. This was | Jim Fulton's plane trip back from IPC4: | | http://www.python.org/workshops/1996-06/ That's the conception date, if you always skip straight to the birth, you're missing out on some fun d;) | Within a year we added a | template system, then a persistent object system, then... -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Is anyone know when Zope was born ???
As far as I'm concerned, Zope was born Saturday, June 8, 1996. This was Jim Fulton's plane trip back from IPC4: http://www.python.org/workshops/1996-06/ Beyond that, Zope (as a unification of previous software) was announced in November 1998 and released in December 1998. DC had some prior art in the field before IPC4, such as my W3C tech note on the "ILU Requester", technology for making web servers talk CORBA to services. Also, Brian Lloyd had, with someone else here at the time, cooked up an early ORB to handle message dispatch from the web into Python. However, our work was tiny compared to Jim's plane trip back. I pick the 1996 date because, well, from a marketing perspective it makes Zope look more mature. :^) But that's the best date. Here's "the rest of the story". Jim joined Digital Creations about a week before IPC4. He had already scheduled to go to IPC4, and I had scheduled to go and teach a CGI class. Instead, I decided to go on vacation and make him teach the class. Slight problem: he had never heard of CGI. So on the plane ride there he read the CGI spec, some background material, and rewrote my presentation. In the process he decided CGI was broken and needed a bunch of things, primarily object orientation. The "python object publisher" (an ORB) was conceived during the conference and was largely written on the plane ride back. The ORB quickly took over our consulting business. Within a year we added a template system, then a persistent object system, then... That's the story. So there, we have a birthdate! --Paul > -Original Message- > From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:17 AM > To: Frederic Quin > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Zope] Is anyone know when Zope was born ??? > > > Frederic Quin wrote: > > > > Is anyone know when Zope was born ??? > > Paul, you must know the answer to this one ;-) > > cheers, > > Chris > ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Is anyone know when Zope was born ???
Frederic Quin wrote: > > Is anyone know when Zope was born ??? Paul, you must know the answer to this one ;-) cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
