Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:33:13PM +, Russell Wallace wrote: >What simulation algorithms did you have in mind with that data Anything vaguely physical, and doing long-range interactions by iteration of overlapping local neighbourhoods. It's not much of a constraint. Of course, you have to

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Wallace
On 3/7/07, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anything vaguely physical, and doing long-range interactions by iteration of overlapping local neighbourhoods. It's not much of a constraint. Of course, you have to add more data to the volume element, depending on what you want to do. I'm goi

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Bob Mottram
I can confirm from practical experimentation that 8bit integers are too coarse to be able to model the probability density of a three dimensional space using the classic occupancy grid mapping method, but that you can just about get away with using 16bits for some applications. Personally I'm usi

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 09:49:47AM +, Russell Wallace wrote: >I'm going to predict that once you start trying to do serious >simulation, 8 bit integers will turn out to be entirely inadequate and Serious depends utterly on context. If you want to do a superrealtime reality simulator f

[agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
Just noticed this on Slashdot. Open source but not free software, for those of you for whom this makes a difference. http://www.numenta.com/for-developers/software.php Josh - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http

Re: [agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread Shane Legg
It might however be worth thinking about the licence: Confidentiality. 1. Protection of Confidential Information. You agree that all code, inventions, algorithms, business concepts, workflow, ideas, and all other business, technical and financial information, including but not limited to the HTM

Re: [agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread Bob Mottram
That's pretty evil. I wouldn't use the Numenta software simply on the basis of this licence. On 07/03/07, Shane Legg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It might however be worth thinking about the licence: Confidentiality. 1. Protection of Confidential Information. You agree that > all code, invent

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 2/19/07, John Scanlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Logical deduction or inference is not thought. It is mechanical symbol manipulation that can can be programmed into any scientific pocket calculator. [...] Hi John, I admire your attitude for attacking the core AI issues =) One is e

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 3/2/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What about English? Irregular grammar is only a tiny part of the language modeling problem. Uaing an artificial language with a regular grammar to "simplify" the problem is a false path. If people actually used Logban then it would be used i

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
I agree with Ben and Pei etc on this issue. Narrow AI is VERY different from general AI. It is not at all easy to integrate several narrow AI applications to a single, functioning system. I have never heard of something like this being done, even for two computer vision programs. IMO what we n

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 10:34, YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote: > I discovered something cool: computational pragmatics. You may take a > look at Jerry R Hobbs' paper: "Interpretation as Abduction", ... Nice. Note that one of the reasons that I'm going the numerical route is that some powerful meth

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote: I agree with Ben and Pei etc on this issue. Narrow AI is VERY different from general AI. It is not at all easy to integrate several narrow AI applications to a single, functioning system. I have never heard of something like this being done, even for two computer

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- "YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/2/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about English? Irregular grammar is only a tiny part of the language > > modeling problem. Uaing an artificial language with a regular grammar to > > "simplify" the problem is a fal

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Wallace
On 3/7/07, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A more interesting question to think about, rather than how to represent a story in a formal language, is: How would you convince yourself that your AGI actually understood a story? What kind of question-answers or behaviors would convince you

Re: [agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread Aki Iskandar
Well - that's one way to steal work. Thanks Jeff! No wonder they are letting people at it. They must be using the same lawyers Microsoft uses :-o Thanks for the heads up Shane. I'm very bad about just blindly accepting terms of use, and licenses. ~Aki On 7-Mar-07, at 10:02 AM, Bob