Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Dave Reisner wrote: > > *** Why are you still reading this? > > If you made it this far, you might be as crazy as I am, so here's Pinkie > Pie dressed as a chicken: > > http://i.imgur.com/DDukE.png I'm suing for damages, that image has permanently scarred my poor

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread William Giokas
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 07:13:31AM +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: > >> uessing for users of NetworkManager there shouldn't be any change. > > > > Yeah, NM won't care at all. > > > >> And peopl

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: >> Hi Tom, what about netcfg users. I assume we'd need to change >> INTERFACE in all our netcfg profiles, but would simply renaming the >> /etc/network.d/interfaces/{eth,wlan}0 files to the unique names work? > > Yes, in /etc/network.d/interfaces

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > Hi Tom, what about netcfg users. I assume we'd need to change > INTERFACE in all our netcfg profiles, but would simply renaming the > /etc/network.d/interfaces/{eth,wlan}0 files to the unique names work? I know that netcfg users will have to mak

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:13:31 +0800 Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: > >> uessing for users of NetworkManager there shouldn't be any change. > > > > Yeah, NM won't care at all. > > > >> And people usin

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: >> uessing for users of NetworkManager there shouldn't be any change. > > Yeah, NM won't care at all. > >> And people using 'systemctl enable dhcpcd@eth0' will have to change the >> device

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread William Giokas
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 10:41:13AM -0600, Sander Jansen wrote: > > So I'm guessing for users of NetworkManager there shouldn't be any change. > And people using 'systemctl enable dhcpcd@eth0' will have to change the > device name? Can this be done before the reboot (for headless systems, so > the

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: > uessing for users of NetworkManager there shouldn't be any change. Yeah, NM won't care at all. > And people using 'systemctl enable dhcpcd@eth0' will have to change the > device name? Correct. > Can this be done before the reboot (for head

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Sander Jansen
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 09:35:45AM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 08:23:10 +0100 > > Andrea Scarpino wrote: > > > > > On Monday 07 January 2013 07:51:30 Allan McRae wrote: > > > > Upstream decision... vanilla packages sho

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:58:20 -0500 Dave Reisner wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 09:35:45AM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 08:23:10 +0100 > > Andrea Scarpino wrote: > > > > > On Monday 07 January 2013 07:51:30 Allan McRae wrote: > > > > Upstream decision... vanilla packages

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Dave Reisner
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 09:35:45AM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 08:23:10 +0100 > Andrea Scarpino wrote: > > > On Monday 07 January 2013 07:51:30 Allan McRae wrote: > > > Upstream decision... vanilla packages should follow it. > > > > I agree with Allan. We don't use to chang

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] network interface naming with systemd 197

2013-01-07 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 08:23:10 +0100 Andrea Scarpino wrote: > On Monday 07 January 2013 07:51:30 Allan McRae wrote: > > Upstream decision... vanilla packages should follow it. > > I agree with Allan. We don't use to change the default behavior. Ship it as > default and add two lines on how to di