Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-07-01 Thread Victor Silva
2012/7/1 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/19 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/18 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/18 Victor Silva >>> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > >> 2012/6/15 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/15 Don

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-07-01 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/19 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/18 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/18 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva >>> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > 2012/6/15 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan >> >>> On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Vict

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-19 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/18 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/18 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva >>> 2012/6/15 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/15 Don deJuan > >> On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Victor Silva wrote: >> >>> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-17 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/18 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva >> >>> 2012/6/15 Victor Silva >>> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan > On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Victor Silva wrote: > >> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan >> >> On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C.

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-17 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/16 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/16 Victor Silva > >> 2012/6/15 Victor Silva >> >>> >>> >>> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan >>> On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Victor Silva wrote: > 2012/6/15 Don deJuan > > On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: >> >> On 06/14/2012 03:

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-16 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/16 Victor Silva > 2012/6/15 Victor Silva > >> >> >> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan >> >>> On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Victor Silva wrote: >>> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > > On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: >> >> I h

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-16 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/15 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/15 Don deJuan > >> On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Victor Silva wrote: >> >>> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan >>> >>> On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: > > I have no shares. Can I somehow try to umoun

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/15 Don deJuan > On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Victor Silva wrote: > >> 2012/6/15 Don deJuan >> >> On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: >>> >>> On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: I have no shares. Can I somehow try to umount everything in mtab? I'm > not >

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread Don deJuan
On 06/15/2012 02:48 PM, Victor Silva wrote: 2012/6/15 Don deJuan On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: I have no shares. Can I somehow try to umount everything in mtab? I'm not familiar with the internal workings of mtab. I will read a b

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/15 Don deJuan > On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > >> On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: >> >>> I have no shares. Can I somehow try to umount everything in mtab? I'm not >>> familiar with the internal workings of mtab. I will read a bit. Also the >>> only thing I ass

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread Don deJuan
On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: I have no shares. Can I somehow try to umount everything in mtab? I'm not familiar with the internal workings of mtab. I will read a bit. Also the only thing I assume could be hanging is my external HD whi

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread Don deJuan
On 06/15/2012 08:29 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: I have no shares. Can I somehow try to umount everything in mtab? I'm not familiar with the internal workings of mtab. I will read a bit. Also the only thing I assume could be hanging is my external HD whi

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread David C. Rankin
On 06/14/2012 03:12 PM, Victor Silva wrote: I have no shares. Can I somehow try to umount everything in mtab? I'm not familiar with the internal workings of mtab. I will read a bit. Also the only thing I assume could be hanging is my external HD which I disconnected having no effect on the proble

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/15 Ralf Mardorf > On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 11:37 -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > > Also, is there a procedure I can use to have multiple kernels? > > Don't name the packages/kernels "linux". Name them linux, linux-1, > linux-2 etc.?! > > You also could get different kernels from the repositories

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 11:37 -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > Also, is there a procedure I can use to have multiple kernels? Don't name the packages/kernels "linux". Name them linux, linux-1, linux-2 etc.?! You also could get different kernels from the repositories, of course not different versions of

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/14 Victor Silva > > 2012/6/14 Guillermo Leira > >> > [[ $UID -eq 0 ]] && umountcmd=umount || umountcmd="sudo umount" >> > >> > if grep -q mnt\/phx-cfg /etc/mtab; then >> >echo "umount /mnt/phx-cfg" >> >$umountcmd /mnt/phx-cfg >> > fi >> > >> > if grep -q mnt\/phx-david /etc/mtab;

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/14 Guillermo Leira > > [[ $UID -eq 0 ]] && umountcmd=umount || umountcmd="sudo umount" > > > > if grep -q mnt\/phx-cfg /etc/mtab; then > >echo "umount /mnt/phx-cfg" > >$umountcmd /mnt/phx-cfg > > fi > > > > if grep -q mnt\/phx-david /etc/mtab; then > >echo "umount /mnt/phx-davi

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Guillermo Leira
> [[ $UID -eq 0 ]] && umountcmd=umount || umountcmd="sudo umount" > > if grep -q mnt\/phx-cfg /etc/mtab; then >echo "umount /mnt/phx-cfg" >$umountcmd /mnt/phx-cfg > fi > > if grep -q mnt\/phx-david /etc/mtab; then >echo "umount /mnt/phx-david" >$umountcmd /mnt/phx-david > fi > >

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/14 David C. Rankin > On 06/12/2012 02:06 PM, Victor Silva wrote: > >> Folks sorry for cross posting this at forum and mailing lists but so far >> no >> solution came there. >> >> Folks after the last upgrade I can no longer shutdown nor reboot my >> machine >> (I'm using it as root). The c

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread David C. Rankin
On 06/12/2012 02:06 PM, Victor Silva wrote: Folks sorry for cross posting this at forum and mailing lists but so far no solution came there. Folks after the last upgrade I can no longer shutdown nor reboot my machine (I'm using it as root). The command simply hangs and nothing happens. I've done

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Yeah by vanilla I mean the stock kernel. I dont get what do you mean by: > be a red herring, is the exact error gone too quick to note. > red herring as in possibly false or irrelevent error message. >is the exact error gone too quick to note. Does it flash up before you can get a picture or

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/14 Kevin Chadwick > > It reports a problem > > reading /boot partition saying something about it being not a valid ext2 > > I see /boot is ext4 > > There was a time recently when a kernel bug gave invalid warnings about > other filesystem types like ext2, ext3 before mounting ext4 so it co

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> It reports a problem > reading /boot partition saying something about it being not a valid ext2 I see /boot is ext4 There was a time recently when a kernel bug gave invalid warnings about other filesystem types like ext2, ext3 before mounting ext4 so it could be a red herring, is the exact erro

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-14 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/14 gt > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:18:17AM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > > 2012/6/14 gt > > > Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further > > > need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it. > > > > > > (Assuming, you did a pacman -U ) > > > > > I did it

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread gt
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:18:17AM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > 2012/6/14 gt > > Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further > > need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it. > > > > (Assuming, you did a pacman -U ) > > > I did it for the kenel which hangs, the

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Martin Cigorraga
[OT] @Victor: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Arch? What a combination! [/OT]

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/14 gt > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:14:06PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > > Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how > can I > > properly downgrade a kernel? > > > > Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks. > > Since you have already revert

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread gt
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:14:06PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how can I > properly downgrade a kernel? > > Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks. Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Victor Silva
Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how can I properly downgrade a kernel? Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks. 2012/6/13 Victor Silva > > > 2012/6/13 Kevin Chadwick > >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:42:01 -0700 >> pants wrote: >> >> > check th

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/13 Kevin Chadwick > On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:42:01 -0700 > pants wrote: > > > check the SMART status of the drives, > > I've recently found Pmagic livecd to be very cool for this. Simply > click the disk health icon on the desktop. > Folks I've messed things even more I did a kernel downgr

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:42:01 -0700 pants wrote: > check the SMART status of the drives, I've recently found Pmagic livecd to be very cool for this. Simply click the disk health icon on the desktop.

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/12 Martti Kühne > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 06:26:59PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > > So can I justremove it and check what happens? This makes sense as > nepomuk > > keeps indexing all the contents of the machine. I will try to remove it > and > > check what happens. Which part of the logs

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Martti Kühne
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 06:26:59PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > So can I justremove it and check what happens? This makes sense as nepomuk > keeps indexing all the contents of the machine. I will try to remove it and > check what happens. Which part of the logs gave you the hint about nepomuk? > >

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Victor Silva
Sorry for double posting but just sat and though and I realized nopomuk isprobably unrelated since the problem also happens if I'm on tty and never start the x server. 2012/6/12 Victor Silva > So can I justremove it and check what happens? This makes sense as nepomuk > keeps indexing all the con

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Victor Silva
So can I justremove it and check what happens? This makes sense as nepomuk keeps indexing all the contents of the machine. I will try to remove it and check what happens. Which part of the logs gave you the hint about nepomuk? Regards, Victor 2012/6/12 Martti Kühne > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 05:

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Martti Kühne
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 05:53:36PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > Logs here: > http://pastebin.com/0BMzruNJ > Nothing happens, this is the point. I can still use the system normally > after the shutdown command. It does not turn X off. It does not shutdown > just after the broadcast. This is what I c

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Victor Silva
Logs here: http://pastebin.com/0BMzruNJ Nothing happens, this is the point. I can still use the system normally after the shutdown command. It does not turn X off. It does not shutdown just after the broadcast. This is what I consider extremelly strange. AS you pointed out I could have something wa

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread pants
Well, in general shutdown itself will *not* be the halted process; that would be rather strange. But hey, it could have happened. Usually, shutdown and reboot hang because they are coded to wait until all other processes reported having quit, and the process in question hasn't quit yet (because i

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Martti Kühne
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 04:06:27PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: > > Dmesg output is here > > http://pastebin.com/HjwGvDsp > umm that just is kde crashing. what exactly is the error when trying to shut down or reboot, or where is the hang? before or after shutting down X, are there error messages

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Victor Silva
I do have this exact error messega as I've posted before. I will check htop and post the output here. So now some questions which come out are: is it somehow related to bad sectors? Shutdown is the locked process with the message: > INFO: task [shutdown] blocked for more than 120 seconds. Still

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread pants
It sounds like you might have had a process in uninterpretable sleep. This happens sometimes when a process is in a system call and stops working. You can check for this by launching htop and seeing if any processes are permanently in the 'D' state (in the column labeled 'S'). Alternatively, look

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Δημήτρης Ζέρβας
three emails for the same subject... :S (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Victor Silva wrote: > I got a ubuntu livecd with gparted lets see what happens. A

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Victor Silva
I got a ubuntu livecd with gparted lets see what happens. About using thesystem as root. I only run pacman related commands as root have a user I use for mostly day tasks. This user is *NOT* on sudo, basically cause I like to enforce my self to login as root and think about what I'm doing. Also su

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Attila Vangel
Hi, I am not familiar with the problem, but I think the easiest way (if you are not against graphical tools) is to grab a live cd (or "live usb dongle") containing gparted (it's not a bad thing to have, anyway), but I am not an expert at this. What really surprises me is that you use your system a

[arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-12 Thread Victor Silva
Folks sorry for cross posting this at forum and mailing lists but so far no solution came there. Folks after the last upgrade I can no longer shutdown nor reboot my machine (I'm using it as root). The command simply hangs and nothing happens. I've done some research and found https://bbs.archlinux