[Ayatana] Notification in fullscreen apps

I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently states that non-critical bubbles must be suppressed. Are notifications from pidgin/empathy considered critical or non-critical? I think that the right way of deali

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Mark, Why not present the upgrade option in the three situations? At login, at log out/shutdown and during the session (only once per session or per day or whatever is a reasonable time)? This would be a away to encourage upgrades. The key here is to make updates at each moment optional. So that t

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Em Sáb, 2009-07-04 às 10:15 +0200, Steve Dodier escreveu: > I don't think (b) is a good idea for the following reasons : > > * When the user shuts the PC down, he doesn't expect to give it > attention anymore. An update can fail or be interrupted for some > reasons (package missing on a server, i

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Steve Dodier wrote: > What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're > used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an > exhaustive list of applications, so maybe we should provide the user > with a GUI to tell which apps shouldnt be overriden and in which > circ

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

2009/7/4 Steve Dodier : >  * What about laptops ? Sometimes you shutdown your laptop because you're > about to move. Do you want, in this case, to have to wait for the upgrade to > perform ? > I know a few people who initiate the shutdown process, and as they are in a hurry will leave the shutdo

Re: [Ayatana] Notification in fullscreen apps

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:15:33 +0530 Praveen wrote: > I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section > for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently > states that non-critical bubbles must be suppressed. > Are notifications from pidgin/empathy considered cri

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > Updates-on-login are interesting, but I think fatally flawed because of the > common requirement to reboot after updates. > This is actually the case where update on login works best. Any other time rebooting is totally interruption. You

[Ayatana] Fwd: Notification in fullscreen apps

-- Forwarded message -- From: Praveen Date: Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM Subject: Notification in fullscreen apps To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

On sab, 2009-07-04 at 15:31 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: > > That is a good point. However, the likelihood of a failure in a > security > update that doesn't allow for a clean shutdown is very low (it never > happened to me and I use Linux since 1994). I know that perhaps it is overkill to ta

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Notification in fullscreen apps

On lun, 2009-07-06 at 22:33 +0530, Praveen wrote: > > > > I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section > for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently > states that non-critical bubbles must be suppressed. > > Are notifications from pidgin/empathy co

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Notification in fullscreen apps

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > On lun, 2009-07-06 at 22:33 +0530, Praveen wrote: > > > > > > > > I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section > > for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently > > states that non-critical bubbl

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Alex Launi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth > wrote: > > Updates-on-login are interesting, but I think fatally flawed > because of the common requirement to reboot after updates. > > > This is actually the case where update on login works b

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: Alex Launi wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth > wrote: Updates-on-login are interesting, but I think fatally flawed because of the common requirement to reboot after updates. This is actually the case where up

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Alex Launi wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth > wrote: Updates-on-login are interesting, but I think fatally flawed because of the common requirement to reboot after updates. This is actually the case where updat

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

On 07/06/2009 08:21 PM, David Siegel wrote: Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Alex Launi wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth > wrote: Updates-on-login are interesting, but I think fatally flawed because of the common requirement to reboot after upd

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 10:15 +0200, Steve Dodier wrote: > I don't think (b) is a good idea for the following reasons : > > * When the user shuts the PC down, he doesn't expect to give it > attention anymore. An update can fail or be interrupted for some > reasons (package missing on a server, inte

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:46:19 -0400 Joshua Blount wrote: >On 07/06/2009 08:21 PM, David Siegel wrote: >> >> >> Mark Shuttleworth wrote: >>> Alex Launi wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth >>> > wrote: Updates-on-login are interesting,

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:49:16 +0100 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: ... >In this initiative, I want us to take a different approach. We will strip away non-essential decisions from the user experience, at the cost of flexibility in the final product. For me, that's not a bug, it's a feature, though I

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On the other hand, fast boot is an explicit Ubuntu design goal for a > variety of reasons including users typically start their computers because > they want to use them. > > Before getting too set on installing updates at boot, I'd suggest some > discussion with t

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:49:16 +0100 Mark Shuttleworth > wrote: > ... > >> In this initiative, I want us to take a different approach. We will strip >> > away non-essential decisions from the user experience, at the cost of > flexibility in the final product. For

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM, mac_v wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >> On the other hand, fast boot is an explicit Ubuntu design goal for a >> variety of reasons including users typically start their computers because >> they want to use them. >> >> Before getting too set on installing update