[Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 15:07, Praveen ha scritto: no please don't do such a thing. it takes away a lot of benefits of the new messaging system. ie i can from the notification know what the other person has to say and hence decide if i want to open the chat window now or later. Also if the messages should

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 15:19, Praveen ha scritto: hmm.. not a bad idea though one must consider that this one initial notification will be always displayed whenever one goes fullscreen. so if i watch a lot of movies or am review/editing a presentation i would be going to fullscreen and back so many many t

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Sohail Mirza
Isn't this whole discussion of a presentation mode making the issue more complex than it needs to be? I would think that taking an application into full-screen allows us to safely assume the user is making the following statement: "this application is the only thing I'm interested in right now".

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Launi
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Sohail Mirza wrote: > I would think that taking an application into full-screen allows us to > safely assume the user is making the following statement: "this application > is the only thing I'm interested in right now". It follows from this that > non-critical n

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 15:29, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: I hope I'm not missing anything in my analysis. Is there a use-case of a full-screen application that does not offer window maximization as an alternative? We talked about movies. I may be just watching a movie alone and want to be available for

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 15:35, Alex Launi ha scritto: I know many people who do this. Netbook users do this all the time. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Mo

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Sohail Mirza
First off, netbooks are not a fair use-case for this discussion. The limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different solution to common problems. This much is apparent when comparing Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook Remix. Now, if you're watching a full-screen movie *and* waiting

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Launi
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Sohail Mirza wrote: > First off, netbooks are not a fair use-case for this discussion. The > limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different solution to > common problems. This much is apparent when comparing Ubuntu Desktop to > Ubuntu Netbook Rem

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Sohail Mirza
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Alex Launi wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Sohail Mirza wrote: > >> First off, netbooks are not a fair use-case for this discussion. The >> limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different solution to >> common problems. This much is app

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 16:39, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: The limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different solution to common problems. This much is apparent when comparing Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook Remix. The EEEPC 1000HE has a 10'' screen on which the default gnome desktop is

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 17:34, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: Weighed against the configuration set and dialogues being proposing, I still think that "full-screen = I'm busy" is a reasonable assumption to make with the vast majority of the user population. I would venture a guess that most users don't even use

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Launi
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Come on, forget about presentations, my mother does not do that. Ok, except that the title of this thread has the word presentation. Presentations are a VERY common use activity. Your mom might not, but mine does- often- quite possibly da

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Sohail Mirza
To be quite honest, if the movie is any good, I will likely miss the notification anyways... but that's just me! :) If I really wanted to watch something while waiting for a particular notification, I would probably keep exiting full-screen to double-check my email/IM manually (I could've missed