Computer stores

2020-08-22 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
45 yrs. ago last month, mid-July, Dick Heiser started a new industry, the retail computer store. It opened in West L.A. under the name Arrow Head COmputer Company. aka, The Computer Store. This began the direct marketing of microcomputers to hobbyists, later to the masses of the middle class, albei

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/22/20 8:52 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > 45 yrs. ago last month, mid-July, Dick Heiser started a new industry, the > retail computer store. It opened in West L.A. under the name Arrow Head > COmputer Company. aka, The Computer Store. This began the direct marketing > of microcomput

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-22 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
he direct marketing > of microcomputers to hobbyists, later to the masses of the middle class, > albeit a small market 45 yrs. ago. > > Happy computing. Claiming "First" in computer "anything" is just about always a dangerous thing ;) But for sure, several personal comput

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-22 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
in computer "anything" is just about > > always a dangerous thing;) > But for sure, several personal computer stores existed 45 years ago! > Personal Computer Corporation (whom Stan Veit wrote created the term > "PersonalComputer") was formed by Everett Holland on

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 8/22/2020 9:53 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 8/22/20 8:52 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: 45 yrs. ago last month, mid-July, Dick Heiser started a new industry, the retail computer store. It opened in West L.A. under the name Arrow Head COmputer Company. aka, The Computer Sto

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
When dozens or hundreds start up within weeks or months of each other, every one is important, and most are interesting, but "FIRST" or "STARTED THE TREND" (implying being the "first") cease to really mean anything. It's generally better to never use the word "FIRST"; there is almost always a

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-23 Thread John Klos via cctalk
When dozens or hundreds start up within weeks or months of each other, every one is important, and most are interesting, but "FIRST" or "STARTED THE TREND" (implying being the "first") cease to really mean anything. It's generally better to never use the word "FIRST"; there is almost always a

Re: Computer Stores

2020-08-23 Thread Wayne Smith via cctalk
gt; From: Fred Cisin > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > > Subject: Re: Computer stores > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > When dozens or hundreds start up within weeks or months of each &g

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread Alan Frisbie via cctalk
On 8/22/20 8:52 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > 45 yrs. ago last month, mid-July, Dick Heiser started a new industry, > the retail computer store. It opened in West L.A. under the name > Arrow Head Computer Company. aka, The Computer Store. This began the > direct marketing of microcom

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020, Alan Frisbie via cctalk wrote: Dick was a regular fixture at meetings of the Southern California Computer Society (SCCS), often making deliveries and taking orders there. In those days, SCCS monthly meetings were *the* place for computer geeks to get together and exchange ne

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk
Kind of hopping in in the middle of an ongoing discussion that I haven't been following, but: > On Aug 25, 2020, at 10:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > Q: although WE call it "Apple I", did the Steves call it "Apple I" or "Apple > Computer"? > The answer tells us whether they were e

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Q: although WE call it "Apple I", did the Steves call it "Apple I" or "Apple Computer"? The answer tells us whether they were explicitly planning on making other models later! Wikipedia (a terrible choice of citation in anything DISPUTED) says that the '1' came later, and says that the first d

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-26 Thread Alan Frisbie via cctalk
Fred Cisin wrote: > On Tue, 25 Aug 2020, Alan Frisbie via cctalk wrote: > > A few months later, two guys named Steve showed up at a meeting > > with a kit they called the "Apple I", for the grand price of > > $666.66. I wish I had had the foresight to buy one! > Q: although WE call it "Apple

Re: Computer stores

2020-08-26 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:28 PM Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > The circuit boards say "Apple Computer 1" on them. So they had the > optimistic "1" in the name originally. > The user manual, schematic, and some but not all advertisements also say "Apple 1" or "Apple-

swtpc, mikeholley, early computer stores

2020-08-28 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
Contacts have been made to secure disposition of Bill Dawson and Mike Holley's site/contents. As part of that effort, I pointed swtpc.org to what used to be swtpc.com (and also swtpc.org). So if you go to swtpc.org you can traverse both sites. But that is not why I'm posting.. So in doing this

1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-23 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-08-23 21:06, John Klos via cctalk wrote: > Relatedly, I have what I think is the only 1U VAX in the world. I've > mentioned this in many places, but if someone says I'm wrong and shows > me an example of another, it would please me, not upset me. I'll have > learned of another :) OK, I'll

Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-06 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
I haven't been in the San Francisco area in about 30 years. I remember a number of used computer/electronics stores back then, can't remember any names except Weird Stuff Warehouse. Are there any stores that are worth a visit? What about outside of the SF area? Doug

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-24 Thread John Klos via cctalk
OK, I'll bite ;-) What is it exactly? There was a rtVAX on VME, which could be easily configured as 1U, but what do you have? https://twitter.com/AnachronistJohn/status/1291815674570891264 It's a VAXstation 4000/30 (also known as VLC) with a 500 gig SATA drive in a 1U case. It's colocated in a

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-24 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Aug 24, 2020, at 7:06 AM, John Klos via cctalk wrote: > >> OK, I'll bite ;-) >> What is it exactly? >> There was a rtVAX on VME, which could be easily configured as 1U, but >> what do you have? > > https://twitter.com/AnachronistJohn/status/1291815674570891264 > > It's a VAXstation 4000/30 (

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-24 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 24/08/2020 21:34, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Aug 24, 2020, at 7:06 AM, John Klos via cctalk wrote: OK, I'll bite ;-) What is it exactly? There was a rtVAX on VME, which could be easily configured as 1U, but what do you have? https://twitter.com/AnachronistJohn/status/129181567457089126

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-24 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-08-24 16:06, John Klos via cctalk wrote: >> OK, I'll bite ;-) >> What is it exactly? >> There was a rtVAX on VME, which could be easily configured as 1U, but >> what do you have? > > https://twitter.com/AnachronistJohn/status/1291815674570891264 > > It's a VAXstation 4000/30 (also known a

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-24 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-08-24 23:21, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > On 24/08/2020 21:34, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> On Aug 24, 2020, at 7:06 AM, John Klos via cctalk >> wrote: OK, I'll bite ;-) What is it exactly? There was a rtVAX on VME, which could be easily configured as 1U, but

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread John Klos via cctalk
I was going to comment that the only way I could see a 1U VAX was if someone rack mounted a 4000/VLC. Is that the stock VLC power supply? My cluster doesn?t even have that much space. What do you use to go from SATA to SCSI (SCSI-1 even)? It's a standard 1U power supply with a custom adapter

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Aug 25, 2020, at 11:46 AM, John Klos via cctalk wrote: > >> I was going to comment that the only way I could see a 1U VAX was if someone >> rack mounted a 4000/VLC. Is that the stock VLC power supply? My cluster >> doesn?t even have that much space. >> >> What do you use to go from SATA t

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread David Brownlee via cctalk
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 19:46, John Klos via cctalk wrote: > > > I was going to comment that the only way I could see a 1U VAX was if > > someone rack mounted a 4000/VLC. Is that the stock VLC power supply? > > My cluster doesn?t even have that much space. > > > > What do you use to go from SATA t

Re: 1U VAX, was: Re: Computer stores

2020-08-25 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/25/2020 3:00 PM, David Brownlee via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 19:46, John Klos via cctalk wrote: I was going to comment that the only way I could see a 1U VAX was if someone rack mounted a 4000/VLC. Is that the stock VLC power supply? My cluster doesn?t even have that much spac

Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-06 Thread David Collins via cctalk
If you are after components Arrow Electronics and Jameco are good. David Collins > On 7 Feb 2018, at 10:23 am, Douglas Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > I haven't been in the San Francisco area in about 30 years. > > I remember a number of used computer/electronics stores back then, can't > r

Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
http://www.junktronix.com/svss/ but I've been told ACE has gone out of business that pretty much just leaves Anchor, Excess Solutions, Halted, and Weird Stuff On 2/6/18 3:23 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I haven't been in the San Francisco area in about 30 years. > > I remember a number

Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-06 Thread dwight via cctalk
d. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:50:02 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area http://www.junktronix.com/svss/ but I've been told ACE has gone out of business that pretty much just leaves

Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-06 Thread dwight via cctalk
/computer stores SF area If you are after components Arrow Electronics and Jameco are good. David Collins > On 7 Feb 2018, at 10:23 am, Douglas Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > I haven't been in the San Francisco area in about 30 years. > > I remember a number of used comp

Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-06 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 04:50:02PM -0800, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > but I've been told ACE has gone out of business Their website is now owned by a squatter. mcl

Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-10 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
On 2/6/2018 9:13 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 04:50:02PM -0800, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: but I've been told ACE has gone out of business Their website is now owned by a squatter. mcl Thanks to all who responded, I'm going to try and visit some of them when I

Re: Good Electronic/computer stores SF area

2018-02-10 Thread Robert via cctalk
Weird Stuff Warehouse? On Jamaica or Caribbean, iirc. On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 2/6/2018 9:13 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 04:50:02PM -0800, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> but I've been told ACE has gone out of