Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-07-26 Thread Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC
t wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Saulter, Andrew" - > Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 09:31:11 +0000 > From: "Saulter, Andrew" > To: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge >  

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-10 Thread Saulter, Andrew
pplication of harmonic tidal series as boundary conditions to a numerical tidal model. Many thanks Andy -Original Message- From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 09 May 2018 15:46 To: cf-metadata@cg

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-09 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andy > tidal_sea_surface_height_above_lowest_astronomical_tide > Units: m > "Sea surface height" is a time-varying quantity. "Height_above_X" means the > vertical distance above the named surface X. "Chart datum" describes a local > vertical reference from which depths displayed on a nautic

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-09 Thread Saulter, Andrew
[mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 08 May 2018 16:04 To: Gregory, Jonathan ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual Dear Andy, I agree with Jonathan that specifically referencing LAT in the Standard

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-08 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ompose the general quantity > > > > > > > > named by omitting the phrase. Tides are a significant > > > > > > > > contributor to the observed sea surface height; here “tide” > > > > > > > > denotes a generic variable describing

[CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-08 Thread Jonathan Gregory
t; named by omitting the phrase. Tides are a significant > > > > > > > > contributor to the observed sea surface height; here “tide” > > > > > > > > denotes a generic variable describing the time varying tidal > > > > > > > >

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-08 Thread Saulter, Andrew
generic > > > > > > > variable describing the time varying tidal signal, for example as > > > > > > > generated based on a summation of harmonically analysed > > > > > > > components, or resulting from the application of such components

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
e all assumed to be annual mean climatological values. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Saulter, Andrew" - > Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 08:15:00 + > From: "Saulter, Andrew" > To: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: Re: [CF-me

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-04 Thread Saulter, Andrew
rence_ellipsoid' is necessary)? I'm not too keen on the generic reference_datum, and feel it would be better to add names for the specific datums you use, if they are geophysical surfaces. If they are arbitrary benchmarks, I agree that some way to name them is needed. > Hopefully I'm no

[CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-03 Thread Jonathan Gregory
urfaces. If they are arbitrary benchmarks, I agree that some way to name them is needed. > Hopefully I'm not talking total nonsense. Of course not. Sorry this is so hard. Best wishes Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On B

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Andrew; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual Hi Andy, A thought that struck me as I read through your e-mail is that surges aren't the only meteorological forcing. Whilst in a model the non-tide contributions can be easily di

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ement is urgent. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Saulter, Andrew Sent: 03 May 2018 09:28 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual Apologies; there were issues with the way my email formatted the last

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-03 Thread Saulter, Andrew
tually using the existing 'height_above_reference_ellipsoid' might be more appropriate (basically I'm not sure if a 'reference_datum_height_above_reference_ellipsoid' is necessary)? Hopefully I'm not talking total nonsense. Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-03 Thread Saulter, Andrew
iate (basically I'm not sure if a 'reference_datum_height_above_reference_ellipsoid' is necessary)? Hopefully I'm not talking total nonsense. Andy -----Original Message- From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 02

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 02 May 2018 14:27 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual Dear Andy Thanks for your email. This is surprisingly mind-bending. Although M

[CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-02 Thread Jonathan Gregory
e part "due to tide". But that returns us to the question of what "without the tide" means. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Saulter, Andrew" - > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 07:08:01 + > From: "Saulter, Andrew" > To: &q

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-26 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ency signals are > generally excluded? > > So some consensus as to whether "sea_surface_elevation" is the phrasing to go > for would be very helpful... > > Cheers > Andy > > -Original Message- > From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-25 Thread Saulter, Andrew
y Sent: 24 April 2018 18:30 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual Dear Andy > - I'm only going to do this for sea water levels, so from my point of > view using the term "sea" is fine; I'm just aware

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
egardless of what datum would be > > used for z itself. I suggested before that change_in would be a possibility > > but it doesn't sound quite right, because we aren't comparing SSH before > > and after a storm surge for example, which is what I'd understan

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-24 Thread Saulter, Andrew
m_surge' and 'due_to_tide' be sensibly appended to 'water_surface_height_above_reference_datum'?? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: John Graybeal [mailto:jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 23 April 2018 17:57 To: Saulter, Andrew Cc: CF Metadata List Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standa

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-23 Thread John Graybeal
whether "sea_surface_elevation" is the phrasing to go > for would be very helpful... > > Cheers > Andy > > -Original Message- > From: CF-metadata [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of > Saulter, Andrew > Sent: 20 April 2018 17:0

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-23 Thread Saulter, Andrew
lto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Saulter, Andrew Sent: 20 April 2018 17:04 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual Jonathon, Helen, Thanks for the feedback. I'd looked at the existing 'sea_surface_heigh

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-20 Thread Saulter, Andrew
..@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 11 April 2018 18:37 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual Dear Helen and Andy I noticed the sea_surface_height_amplitude_due_to_X_tide names as well, and I wondered, what does &

[CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-11 Thread Jonathan Gregory
- Forwarded message from "Snaith, Helen M." - > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:14:16 + > From: "Snaith, Helen M." > To: "Saulter, Andrew" > CC: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard na

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-10 Thread Snaith, Helen M.
Hi Andy Many of the sea_surface_height terms have been used in satellite altimetry for some time. The tidal components have been split out into sea_surface_height_amplitude_due_to_equilibrium_ocean_tide sea_surface_height_amplitude_due_to_geocentric_ocean_tide sea_surface_height_amplitude_due_to_

[CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-06 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Forwarded message from "Saulter, Andrew" ----- > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:13:18 + > From: "Saulter, Andrew" > To: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual > > Dear all, > &

[CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-04-04 Thread Saulter, Andrew
Dear all, First posting to this list, so please forgive me if I'm doing it wrong... I'd like to request an addition to the standard name list to include storm surge residual and tide. These variables are generated for the purpose of coastal flood prediction and will be available in future, netC