"Act of God or War" clause.
Tony Gruen
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From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Geographical redundancy?
I have to put together a proposal for a medical office management
application which will be
This is a well understood problem for many of the major web sites on the
net. There are many ways to attack this problem, but you are really
better hiring someone with experience than trying to figure it out on
your own. I can point you to companies that offer products and services
to help you do
I would not get into something like that with a client. If you do,
you are putting your head on the chopping block due to the fact
that not all disasters or outages can be avoided. Like the poster
before said, you need something like disaster clause
Douglas Brown
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At 02:04 PM 5/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I have to put together a proposal for a medical office management
>application which will be used in an ASP (application service provider -
>not the MS language:) model.. one of the requirements is that the
>application has to be hosted in such a way
And make sure that your liability insurance is in place too. : ha, ha:
At 11:37 AM 5/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I would not get into something like that with a client. If you do,
>you are putting your head on the chopping block due to the fact
>that not all disasters or outages can be avoided
Sure they can. It is hard and expensive, but yes, they can.
-Matt
> -Original Message-
> From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Geographical redundancy?
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> I would not get into somet
> What are you going to do if that next bomb falls on your server?
That
> seems like a pretty hefty requirement. You'd have to do consistent
> backups
> to some remote location on the other side of the world.
>
You would need to do real time replication or a multi-way commit type
setup, so you
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Douglas Brown
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Geographical redundancy?
> Sure they can. It is hard and expe
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> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 12:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Geographical redundancy?
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> Well maybe if they have 2 hosts that they can use, and have only
> one be live and the other just be sitting there getting updates to
> transactions that are pr
At 11:42 AM 5/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > What are you going to do if that next bomb falls on your server?
>That
> > seems like a pretty hefty requirement. You'd have to do consistent
> > backups
> > to some remote location on the other side of the world.
> >
>You would need to do real time r
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> At 11:42 AM 5/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > What are you going to do if that next bomb falls on your server?
> >That
> > > seems like a pretty hefty requirement. You'd have to do
consistent
> > > backups
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tted on all servers.
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>-Matt
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 12:13 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Geographical redundancy?
> >
> > At 11:42 AM 5/11/2002 -0700, y
Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: Geographical redundancy?
> That is why some go with a multi-way commit. This ensures that a
> transaction can not be completed until it is committed on al
To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Geographical redundancy?
>
> That sounds very well, but what's the course of action if one or more
> servers/networks is offline? It can't scuttle the transaction, can
it?
> If
> so, you end up with a system that is actually N times
Let's not forget the best reason for geographic redundancy. You get to
take a trip to wherever you want to set up the servers and application,
and the client pays for it :)
jon
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I wish! Generally, you setup the servers and then crate them up and ship
to the data centers.
-Matt
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Geographical redundancy?
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>
>
> -Matt
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:20 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Geographical redundancy?
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>>Let's not forget the best reason for geographic redundancy. Y
This actually looks like a great business opportunity for some of the
ISPs on this list to work together on. I got private email from a bunch of
people offering to handle the hosting.. but none of their websites actually
mention something like geographic redundancy.
It could be a new hig
, 2002 9:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Geographical redundancy?
>
> This actually looks like a great business opportunity for some of
the
> ISPs on this list to work together on. I got private email from a
bunch
> of
> people offering to handle the hosting.. but none of
You'll need to rely on one of the larger ISP/hosting providers for this, it
won't be cheap. Exodus (are they still around?), is an example of a well
known provider that can accommodate you. Their NOC's (network operation
center) are notoriously renowned as being the biggest and the baddest
(includ
t; -Original Message-
> From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 9:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Geographical redundancy?
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> You'll need to rely on one of the larger ISP/hosting providers for
this,
> it
> won't be che
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> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 9:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Geographical redundancy?
>
> You'll need to rely on one of the larger ISP/hosting providers for
this,
> it
> won't be cheap. Exodus (are they still around?), is an example of a
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