request vs application scope

2003-09-05 Thread Mauricio Giraldo
>Mauricio, this looks good, well done. Thanks. Feel free to download. It's GNU GPL. - mga ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: htt

RE: request vs application scope

2003-09-05 Thread Mike Brunt
Mauricio, this looks good, well done. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Original Message --- >Of course I'm new to all this myself so I may (and quite probably am) >completely off-base on the "right" way to do this in OO. Hopefully >somebody with some more experience will chime in as

request vs application scope

2003-09-05 Thread Mauricio Giraldo
>Of course I'm new to all this myself so I may (and quite probably am) >completely off-base on the "right" way to do this in OO. Hopefully >somebody with some more experience will chime in as well. > >Jim Davis These are all interesting remarks... This HTML editor is actually a CF port from an o

request vs application scope

2003-09-05 Thread Mauricio Giraldo
>(Perhaps if you show us some code, this will be easier?) LOL... I'm trying to set the SourceForge project but that CVS thing is pretty overwhelming (and I thought I was a techie)... I could send a ZIP file... Mmmm gonna post the ZIP here: http://www.elefectoaxe.com.co/spaw/test.cfm Click

RE: request vs application scope

2003-09-05 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Mauricio Giraldo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:56 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: request vs application scope > > >>In general, when using CFCs I would recommend creating the variables > >insi

Re: request vs application scope

2003-09-05 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 10:56 US/Pacific, Mauricio Giraldo wrote: >>> In general, when using CFCs I would recommend creating the variables >> inside the CFCs as instance variables upon invocation rather than >> "look >> out" of the CFC to external data. > The idea is to have users generate th

request vs application scope

2003-09-04 Thread Mauricio Giraldo
>>In general, when using CFCs I would recommend creating the variables >inside the CFCs as instance variables upon invocation rather than "look >out" of the CFC to external data. The idea is to have users generate their own config file without "touching" the CFCs. How would you recommend this to

RE: request vs application scope

2003-09-03 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Mauricio Giraldo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:58 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: request vs application scope > > Hi > > We are developing this web-based HTML editor: > http://www.elefectoaxe.com

request vs application scope

2003-09-03 Thread Mauricio Giraldo
Hi We are developing this web-based HTML editor: http://www.elefectoaxe.com.co/spaw/test.cfm It uses CFCs and has several configuration variables (default language, folder to place images into, etc) that are created in a couple of configuration templates. Right now we handle these configuration

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Isn't it a bit illogical to use request scope for storing > constants if they can be overwritten? Since CF doesn't provide anything directly analogous to a constant, it's as close as you can get. Typically, when used as "constants", request variables are created in Application.cfm for each pa

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Jones, Matt
. -Original Message- From: stas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Request vs application scope Isn't it a bit illogical to use request scope for storing constants if they can be overwritten? I understand that there is no sense in

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Steve Bernard
The primary advantage of using REQUEST scoped variables is the freedom from locking everything, as with APPLICATION and SESSION variables. Steve -Original Message- From: stas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 4:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Request vs application

Re: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread stas
Isn't it a bit illogical to use request scope for storing constants if they can be overwritten? I understand that there is no sense in doing as the variable will be destroyed no matter what, so you have to always re-initialize it. Does that carry more or less penalty than checking for existence o

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Patricia Lee
ED]] |Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:43 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: RE: Request vs application scope | | |Brilliant! So what's the downside? The variables are not |persistent across |pages are they? | | | |> -Original Message- |> From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |&g

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread alistair . davidson
Message- From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 May 2001 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Request vs application scope But using request vars means the memory is released immediately the request has finished... I would agree if you are planning to store large/complex data (

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Brilliant! So what's the downside? The variables are not > persistent across pages are they? Request variables aren't persistent across pages, as Session, Application and Server variables are. However, you're using them in Application.cfm, so they'll be available on every page. They'll simply

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Daniel Lancelot
(maybe 100B)? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 May 2001 15:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Request vs application scope That's the downside! Also, they are unique to each request, so memory & processor usage will increase by a set amount

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread alistair . davidson
-- From: Steve Vosloo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 May 2001 14:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Request vs application scope Brilliant! So what's the downside? The variables are not persistent across pages are they? > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[E

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Dave Watts
> I am using the following line of code in my application.cfm > > http://127.0.0.1/work/ACME/may2001/website";> > > Then elsewhere in the site I refer all links and images to: > > #request.HomeDir# > > Is this OK to do? I'm trying to avoid using the application > scope. Are there any known of

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Steve Vosloo
Brilliant! So what's the downside? The variables are not persistent across pages are they? > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:56 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Request vs application scope &

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Daniel Lancelot
Yes thats right. -Original Message- From: Steve Vosloo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 May 2001 13:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Request vs application scope Thanks. Can I put any data in there that I want to use across the site? And I don't have to apply CFLOCKs

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Steve Vosloo
Thanks. Can I put any data in there that I want to use across the site? And I don't have to apply CFLOCKs do I? > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Request

RE: Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Daniel Lancelot
Absolutely no problem... I do it regularly... -Original Message- From: Steve Vosloo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 May 2001 08:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Request vs application scope I am using the following line of code in my application.cfm http://127.0.0.1/work/ACME/may2001

Request vs application scope

2001-05-29 Thread Steve Vosloo
I am using the following line of code in my application.cfm http://127.0.0.1/work/ACME/may2001/website";> Then elsewhere in the site I refer all links and images to: #request.HomeDir# Is this OK to do? I'm trying to avoid using the application scope. Are there any known of issues with this met

RE: Request vs. Application scope

2001-04-19 Thread Bryan Love
] -Original Message- From: Jason Lotz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Request vs. Application scope Andrew, Thanks for the response. I completely understand what you are saying so I

Re: Request vs. Application scope

2001-04-19 Thread Jason Lotz
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: RE: Request vs. Application scope > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason Lotz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:25 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Request

Re: Request vs. Application scope

2001-04-19 Thread Todd Ashworth
You also need to lock your application variables, which add some additional overhead. Todd - Original Message - From: "Andrew Tyrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:17 PM Subject: R

Request vs. Application scope

2001-04-19 Thread Jason Lotz
I have noticed that I can easily interchange the use of Application and Request scoped variables. Both are easily accessible in custom tags and are only exist for the current http request. So, what are good reasons to use one instead of the other? Jason ~~

RE: Automatic locking (was: Request VS Application scope)

2001-01-07 Thread Peter Theobald
At 02:41 AM 1/7/01 -0500, Dave Watts wrote: >> [...] There is NO performance penalty over properly used manual read locking.[...] >Are you sure there's no performance penalty? How much testing have you done >on this? Or, are you relying on a test done by someone else? How accurate >was that test?

RE: Automatic locking (was: Request VS Application scope)

2001-01-06 Thread Dave Watts
> This is also the reason I have been ranting about Automatic > Read locking on this list lately. It works. There is NO > performance penalty over properly used manual read locking. I > am sure the ONLY reason it isn't at least the default if not > the ONLY choice is simply a legacy from older

RE: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Peter Theobald
Here Here!! Finally someone seems to understand/agree with my frustration on this point. The way Cold Fusion handles locking is just DUMB. It is ASKING for application instability, which in the long run will ruin the reputation of Cold Fusion as a web development environment. It is especially b

RE: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Peter Theobald
Here Here!! Finally someone seems to understand/agree with my frustration on this point. The way Cold Fusion handles locking is just DUMB. It is ASKING for application instability, which in the long run will ruin the reputation of Cold Fusion as a web development environment. It is especially ba

RE: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
> The reason why locking is visible to the developer is because it is much > more efficient if the person writing the code, who knows how the application > should work, decides where to lock and more importantly what type of lock to > use. If the ColdFusion server had to decide whether to use a Re

Re: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Greg Wolfinger
CTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Request VS Application scope > One of the points to using application variables is the > fact that they are persistent. The entire scope is a > shared memory scope which means that your variables persist > which means you d

RE: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Jeremy Allen
;To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Request VS Application scope > > >> So it appears your choice is to properly lock access to shared variables >and take the slight performance hit >> using either automatic locking or manual locking, or do not properly lock >access to shared variables

Re: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Greg Wolfinger
PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Request VS Application scope > But as a recent thread discussed, proper coding requires that you should always lock every access to an Application variable, in which case automatic read locking on Application scope variables

Re: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Peter Theobald
l Message - >From: "Bryan Love" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 2:43 PM >Subject: Request VS Application scope > > >> Here's an interesting question: >> >> We al

Re: Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Greg Wolfinger
the use of the Request scope is the way to go. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Bryan Love" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Request VS Application scope > Here's an interes

Request VS Application scope

2001-01-02 Thread Bryan Love
Here's an interesting question: We all know that setting global variables in the request scope is faster and more thread-safe than using the Application scope, but does that remain true as we scale? Environment: 50 request variables are set in application.cfm (so they are set every time a page