Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Johan Bornman"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? > Yes. Cisco docs call it a "hybrid" protocol because it combines some link state features, yet also has hop count ( distance ) limitations. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Reza
Hybrid. ""Johan Bornman"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=64718&t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Scott Terminiello
EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: "Johan Bornman" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] > Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Dist

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread MADMAN
speaking of NDA... Dave Reza wrote: > Hybrid. > > > ""Johan Bornman"" wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in f

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""MADMAN"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > speaking of NDA... if this is a question directly off the CCIE written it deserves to be revealed and publicly ridiculed :-> > >Dave > > Reza wrote: > > Hybrid. > > > > > > ""Johan Bornman"" wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? > > Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. in what way? the hop count is pretty well hidden in the dark in

RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Willy Schoots
g and Winding Road Sent: vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] ""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector p

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? > > > > Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me t

RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:54 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] > >""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vecto

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Scott Roberts
I agree completely. I think the whole "hybrid" was a marketing department decision. I'm just glad to find out I wasn't the only one who thought this. scott ""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > At 03:54 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: > >""Peter van Oen

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread John Hutchison
My netacad states: "Technically, EIGRP is an advanced distance-vector routing protocol that relies on features commonly associated with link-state protocols" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=64733&t=64707 -- FAQ, l

RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Logan, Harold
The most correct answer, IMO, is that EIGRP is an enhanced distance vector protocol. Were I taking a cisco exam though, out of your two choices I'd go with hybrid. > -Original Message- > From: Johan Bornman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""John Hutchison"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > My netacad states: > > "Technically, EIGRP is an advanced distance-vector routing protocol that > relies on features commonly associated with link-state protocols" > in none of the Cisco exams I have ever taken has there ever been the m

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread John Neiberger
The Cisco answer is hybrid, but that's a load of bullhocky. EIGRP is a DV protocol. Cisco marketing likes to call it a hybrid because it has some features that are also present in link state protocols, but they're not specifically link state features. EIGRP is NOT a link state protocol in any wa

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread John Neiberger
This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up o

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread MADMAN
I seem to recall a question on the recert along those lines. I can pretty much remeber the questions but I am not going to post it. This post would help one come to the correct conclusion. Dave The Long and Winding Road wrote: > ""MADMAN"" wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>sp

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread MADMAN
I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. Dave John Neiberger wrote: > This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way > does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor > relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those h

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""MADMAN"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. the REAL question is "which is better, EIGRP or L3 switching?" ;-> > >Dave > > John Neiberger wrote: > > This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way > >

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:12 PM + 3/7/03, MADMAN wrote: >I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. > >Dave While it isn't link state, the DUAL algorithm is completely different than that of IGRP. > >John Neiberger wrote: >> This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way >

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread John Neiberger
neighbors of topology changes the same way OSPF works. This is in contrast to RIP which sends out an update at specified intervals (30 secs for RIPv1) regardless of whether a topology change or not. Scott - Original Message - From: "John Neiberger" To: Sent: Friday, March 07,

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Scott Terminiello
: "John Neiberger" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] > This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way > does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor > relationships and it

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
e answer! (Well, not the one about ARP switching. :-) Priscilla > > Scott > > - Original Message - > From: "John Neiberger" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] > > > > This really isn

RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-08 Thread fred barreras
Cats are great. Depends what kind of sauce you use thoughJust kidding. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=64861&t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report

OT: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:30 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >""MADMAN"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. > > >the REAL question is "which is better, EIGRP or L3 switching?" ;-> I'm working on a draft for ARP switching. Still str

OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-08 Thread John Hutchison
I have an Akita dog. (pure bred) She's a year and a couple months old. She's 5 ft tall and about 100 pounds. She'll eat any cat. Dogs are superior. :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=64825&t=64707 -- FAQ, list arch

Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-08 Thread John Neiberger
""John Hutchison"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have an Akita dog. (pure bred) She's a year and a couple months old. She's > 5 ft tall and about 100 pounds. She'll eat any cat. Dogs are superior. :) Dogs naturally love people; cats naturally dislike people and you have to train the

Re: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-08 Thread Dennis Laganiere
sleep alot, and they generally leave you alone while their doing that, right? Just believe me, cats are better... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: "John Neiberger" To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written

RE: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-08 Thread Juan Blanco
Neiberger Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] ""John Hutchison"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have an Akita dog. (pure bred) She's a year and a couple months old. She