>> So, like I said, I clearly missed what you suggested as fixes to the
>> problems that you perceive. While I'm sure that this discussion belongs
>> on the incubator list, rather than here, I have a strong suspicion that
>> you're going to respond with a note to the effect that you've already
>> b
[dropping all the cross posts, keeping it on community]
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 20:19, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Solution:
>
> * Disband the incubator.
...
> * A project must have at least sponsoring MEMBER willing to go join the
> project and help them adopt the voting rules, document legal iss
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >> So, like I said, I clearly missed what you suggested as fixes to the
> >> problems that you perceive. While I'm sure that this discussion belongs
> >> on the incubator list, rather than here, I have a strong suspicion that
> >> you're going to resp
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I suggested that Blojsom might be a good choice for hosting ASF
> project news and might also make a great ASF project as I know
> the author is already indoctrinated
> I didn't say it would be a good project for the incubator.
The Incubator is how projects get into the
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: community@apache.org
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:21:50 -0500
> To:
> Subject: RE: Undermining the Incubator
>
> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> I suggested that Blojsom might be a good choice for hosting ASF
>
> In summary: Oh of course no problems exist, its all fixed and happy.
> Just don't mind the dead bodies floating in the pond.
In other words, because there were problems before it was fixed, it doesn't
matter if it is fixed now or not?
--- Noel
On Jan 13, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
In summary: Oh of course no problems exist, its all fixed and happy.
Just don't mind the dead bodies floating in the pond.
In other words, because there were problems before it was fixed, it
doesn't
matter if it is fixed now or not?
Yeah, and if
Steven Noels wrote:
> and if we consider it fixed we don't have anything to rant about anymore.
But if there *are* remaining problems, those should be brought up
constructively so that they can be fixed, too. :-)
--- Noel
email.
> From: Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: community@apache.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:58:35 +0100
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Undermining the Incubator
>
> On Jan 13, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>
>>> In s
> From: Rich Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: community@apache.org
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:24:49 -0500 (EST)
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
> Cc: "community@apache.org"
> Subject: Re: Undermining the Incubator
>
> On Mon, 12
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
All legal matters are for the Board and the Foundation's attorneys to
address.
Regarding audits ...
There is a presumption of innocence in our legal system. I do not believe
that due diligence requires an a priori presumption of fraud, and a
investigation to "prove" its
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:27:35 -0500
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Except that it is not. I just think I'll bring it up in 6 months
> when there are more dead bodies floating around. Noel does a great PR
> job though.
Oh, "Dead Bodies"? ... scared.
I do not think there are dead bodies. However, i th
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
From: Rich Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...
First of all, thanks for this thorough resonse.
Sure.
True. This does belong on community@
I think it belongs in the Incubator, as the Incubator is exactly for
these discussions (where constructive).
Interested parties can subscribe
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:33:00 +0100
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >>From: Rich Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>First of all, thanks for this thorough resonse.
> > Sure.
> >>True. This does belong on community@
> I think it belongs in the Incubator, as the Incubator is exactly f
apache.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:34:55 -0500
> To: "community@apache.org"
> Subject: Re: Undermining the Incubator
>
> In summary: Oh of course no problems exist, its all fixed and happy. Just
> don't mind the dead bodies floating in the pond.
> --
>
At 12:36 AM 1/13/2004, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>The Send button is near the close button. I missed.
Suggestion from an httpd/apr hothead to our community forum participants
[NOT specifically ACO]...
"Delay sending messages: [30] (minutes)"
is a really great option to enable, well worth the effo
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