--- On Wed, 20/4/11, Jan Tuennermann wrote:
> useful for using the phone as a control unit on a robot, but
> probably not for it's original intention as a phone
> ;)
I guessed so :-)
> I think the one could easily forward the port gpsd uses to
> run tangogps on a remote PC. That's probably wh
--- On Tue, 4/19/11, Neil Jerram wrote:
> > Am 19.04.2011 um 09:46 schrieb
> Jan Tuennermann:
>
> > Right now I'm trying to get a gpsd_client node to run
> on the OpenMoko. On a
> > remote PC a gpsd_viewer node will run, subscribing
> gpsFix messages which it
> viewer: note that this is very sim
--- On Thu, 4/14/11, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Raphael Wimmer
> wrote:
> > If there is a better solution that preserves the FS,
> > I would be happy to learn about it.
> I wonder if it would be possible to boot into a distro on the sd card
> and mount the nand partitions. Th
--- On Mon, 4/11/11, Denis Shulyaka wrote:
> Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 12:41 PM
> 2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> :
> > There are three potential issues whiy it could not
> work: (...)
> Wikipedia says that it uses Mifare UltraLight chip (ISO
> 14443 Type A
> 13,56 MHz), so the protocol
--- On Fri, 4/1/11, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> On 04/01/2011 05:20 PM, Gennady
> Kupava wrote:
> > В Птн, 01/04/2011 в 17:00 +0200, Ed Kapitein
> пишет:
> >> On Friday 01 April 2011 14:52:02 David Matthews
> wrote:
> I had a few problems with several uSD
Any chance all of them are broken? I got a
Hi List,
I have been using QTMoko v33 for the last few days. One of the things that
bother me, is that the battery drains much faster than I am used to, _even_ if
it's connected to USB with force-fast-charge.
Checking Neotool, the battery status is charging (and changes to discharging on
disco
gt; > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Brian
> > To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> > Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:40:39 -0500
> > Subject: Re: GPRS and QTMoko
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 04:14:42 -0800 (PST)
> > "W. B. Kranendonk"
> wr
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Alfa21-mobile wrote:
> if you successfully connect to any wifi network (in v33
> only open
> networs are accessible) then the hardware remains in active
> state,
> draining the battery flat in few hours depsite you disable
> the
> connection via the software interface.
Ah, th
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
> --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Wesley Frazier
>
> wrote:
> > If I boot my freerunner up from a
> > cold boot and manually start GPRS it
> > works fine. (...) it seems to
> > stop
> I got the same issue on QTMoko 0.33.
> A
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Wesley Frazier wrote:
> If I boot my freerunner up from a
> cold boot and manually start GPRS it
> works fine. (...) it seems to
> stop
> working,(...)Regardless of whether or not it is set to "On
> Demand" or
> not.
I got the same issue on QTMoko 0.33. I can prevent it by tur
Hi Christoph,
--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Christoph Mair wrote:
> unfortunately the compass chip included in the FRNBv2 is no
> longer available.
(...)
> and therefore requires a new PCB layout.
Which software do you use for the layout? I've tried both pcb (gEDA) and pcbnew
(KiCAD), but neither shows
--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote:
> 1)(...) Doesnt that imply that there is no general bootloader
> working like in
> desktop pcs?
"Nail on the head": ARM does not come with BIOS. One of the effects is that the
processor can not find out easily what hardware is connected, and has t
--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Sam Kuper wrote:
> Does anyone know of an open source (hardware/software/both)
> GSM
> security cameras? I.e. a device with at least the following
> features:
>
> * Mains powered.
> * Includes rechargeable battery to provide uninterruptible
> power
> supply for several hours
--- On Fri, 2/18/11, HeaDCase wrote:
> Another thing is that after a cold reset (pulling the
> battery for a second)
> the HW clock is reset to 01.01.2000.
That is probably caused by a dried up backup battery. People have replaced it
with capacitors, see the archives.
Boudewijn
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I just returned from FOSDEM 2011. The GTA04 team had a seat available at the
boot, so I spend most of my time showing the semi-/demi-populated GTA04-boards
to the masses, explaining the various uses of the Navigation board, introducing
even more people to the Openmoko-concept or just r
Hi List,
I read about Apple -of all companies- trying to run away with an idea that was
discussed (at least by myself, and probably by others as well) on the mailing
list as well as off line:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20110012838.pdf
It seems to cover using a telephone's touchsreen as t
> --- On Tue, 1/11/11, Sylvain Paré wrote:
> I did a video today
Nice :-)
> ps if you don't like/have flash http://pare.sylvain.perso.sfr.fr/video
> /FRvsP2.ogg
Thanks for that!
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--- On Mon, 1/10/11, Hrabosh wrote:
> do not rely on QtMoko's alarm to wake you up :-)
It was not -by coincidence- the first or second of January? It seems to be a
common problem with design(ers) phones ;-)
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Hi List,
Now and again I try using gestures on SHR. I can't seem to get past the initial
"make the gesture" after selecting a model and pressing the train button.
Should the frontend still function as described in the wiki? I started looking
into the underlying scripts, but haven't found the s
Hi List, happy new year all!
I have to agree with Radek, the Freerunner has been my favourite toy for over
two years now (sometimes to annoyance of the better half in my life ;-) ). Many
thanks to everyone for making it possible! I am looking forward to another year
lurking the mailinglist and
--- On Sat, 12/25/10, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> "W. B. Kranendonk" writes:
> > I found it after searching for accelerometer-dump, but (the FR)
> Just capture the data on FR but run it on your PC. Like
>
> li...@sauna$ ssh neo cat /dev/accelerometer-top |
>
--- On Sat, 12/25/10, Iain B. Findleton wrote:
> The output from
> the chip is quite noisy.
The problem is not that the signal is not reliable: it is. It is just that it
is off by a few degrees.
> There is a script I wrote in TCL
> on the
> SourceForge web site under the fltkwish project page.
--- On Sat, 12/25/10, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> "W. B. Kranendonk"
> writes:
> > Would that mean that (one of) the meter(s) is
> connected at an angle?
> > Are they not calibrated in software?
>
> top and bottom accelerometers are oriented differ
--- On Sat, 12/25/10, Ivan Matveev wrote:
> > Trying
> >
> > 2010-12-06 03:03 qi-v30.udfu
> > 2010-12-06 02:11 qtmoko-debian-v30.ubi
> > 2010-12-06 03:03 uImage-v30.bin
> >
> I am able to boot with SHR kernel
> uImage-2.6.34-r4-oe15-om-gta02.bin,
> but qpe crashes right after start with SHR k
--- On Sat, 12/25/10, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> li...@ginger:~$ accelerometer-dump < event4.log | head |
> cut -d ';' -f2-|tr ';' ' '
> x y z
> 108 36 900
> 144 36 900
> 126 36 900
> li...@ginger:~$ accelerometer-dump <
> /dev/accelerometer-top | head | cut -d ';' -f2-|tr ';' ' '
> x y z
> 36
--- On Sat, 12/25/10, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> "W. B. Kranendonk"
> writes:
> > Is that useful?
> Raw binary output would be a lot easier to parse.
>
Lying on its back again, cat /dev/input/event4 > event4.log
See attachment.
¤ÃMÃ
> Le 23 déc. 2010 10:11, Timo Juhani Lindfors
> a écrit :
> >"W. B. Kranendonk" writes:
> > > One of my FRs is dizzy: the accelerometers are off.
> > Can you send a sample of the accelerometer data? (Preferably in
> > the binary format that you can
Hi List,
One of my FRs is dizzy: the accelerometers are off.
Using mokomaze as testing tool for the time being, the ball runs off to the top
right if I put it flat on the table (imagine my furniture not too fashionable -
that is: the table surface is horizontal ;-))
I can keep the ball from r
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, Alfa21 wrote:
> 2010-12...@14:21 W. B. Kranendonk
> > That reminds me... The BeagleBoard can provide up to
> 1280*1024 or 1280*720 if I recall correctly. Do we have
> options to channel that power out of the box? Nikolaus
> why not??
> If all we need is
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, Alfa21 wrote:
> > -[ Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:58:06AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> (always innovating)
> (or at least keep open the possibility to connect any
> external bigger display and standard keyboard)
That reminds me... The BeagleBoard can provide up to 12
Hallo Nikolaus,
--- On Tue, 12/21/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> we are happy that we can make an announcement to the Free
> and
> Open Hardware Community, right in time for X-mas and New
> Year:
I am happy to read it! Congratulations!
> So we are very confident that the already scheduled
--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Daniele Ricci wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:01, Bryan
> Petty
> wrote:
> > A patent (6031525) was already filed
> for
> > Quickwriting in 1999/2000:
> > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6031525.html
> >
> The
> patent office
> will realize it on its own, right?
Ther
--- On Sat, 11/13/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> (one series of problems)
>
> We could solve that by adding a jump start resistor.
>
> Then, we soldered the OMAP3530 and Pop Memory chip and
> connected RS232:
>
> http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00679.jpg
>
> It did i
--- On Wed, 11/10/10, Al Johnson wrote:
> From: Al Johnson
> > The ultimate goal is to make a FR to FR modem
> conection, using the GSM
> > voice band.
>
> Why? Is this just to see whether it's possible, or how bad
> the voice channel
> is as a data connection when compared to the data channel?
--- On Sun, 10/31/10, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
> Am Sonntag, den 31.10.2010, 10:48 +0100 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
> > Seems as we lost our devroom after all.
>
> Not surprising. That we got it last year was an exception
> "thanks" to
> Xorg not being able to fill in their slot. Unfortunately
>
--- On Tue, 10/26/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Am 26.10.2010 um 17:24 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk:
> case of an open phone, like.. ehr... yes, like which phone
> ;-)
> Suddenly it became obvious...
>
> There is an open phone where approx. 18000 cases have been
> so
--- On Tue, 10/26/10, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> Since it seems so hard to have a custom made case, why not
> use an
> existing case for a HTC, nokia, iphone or the like?
> (or a chinese replica)
> The layout of the PCB needs to be alltered ofcourse, but it
> seems that
> it might be an easier thing t
--- On Tue, 10/26/10, Andreas Fischer wrote:
> On 26.10.2010 12:14, Dr. H. Nikolaus
> Schaller wrote:
>
> > How many new cases would you and your friends buy if
> it costs:
> > * 20 EUR
> > * 50 EUR
> > * 100 EUR
> > * 200 EUR
>
> (...) 20 Euros is
> a no-brainer (...)
> 50 Euros still sound o
--- On Tue, 10/26/10, Alfa21 wrote:
> mmh...
> why not include the button(s) in the same mould?
> it could be a shape like a C= attached to the main shape by
> a little plastic
That's what he (Nicolaus) wrote:
> > Yes. Some parts could be combined in a single mould and then broken
> > apart. L
> > - besides Vietnam, Czech is another country that can
> provide moulds at competitive prices
> >
> > Cases like that of the Freerunner, with more than one
> plastic, need more than one mould per piece. To say more of
> the price, it is necessary to have the design available.
> The
>
> Maybe yo
> Well. Sry. I'm atm busy with building a RepRap (Huxley)
>
Good luck with the reprap :-)
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--- On Sat, 10/23/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Well, an alternative approach could be to open a funds for
> a new injection mould. I.e.
> a "Openmoko Case Production Foundation" (or German e.V.).
> Everyone who gives
> some money for the funds can buy cases at a reduced rate.
> And every
The board looks great! Quite "professional" ;-)
> My (probably
> naive) impression
> > is that you're only missing the case plastics to
> provide a complete GTA4
> > phone.
The LCD comes in handy at times, was my first thought...
> Most of the parts are here:
> http://www.handheld-
> linux.com/wi
> > Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km
> above
> > ground?
>
> I don't know but would doubt it from theory.
>
> Antennas [directed at] earth's surface.
>
I second the theory. How about wifi? Line of sight should not be a problem on a
cloudles day... The baloon could be shaped
> > Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km
> above
> > ground?
>
> I don't know but would doubt it from theory.
>
> Antennas [directed at] earth's surface.
>
I second the theory. How about wifi? Line of sight should not be a problem on a
cloudles day... The baloon could be shaped
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Again good news:
>
> we have won one of the new PandaBoards (OMAP4 / ARM Coretx ()
Congratulations!
Best regards,
Boudewijn
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--- On Thu, 9/16/10, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:37 PM,
> Christ van Willegen wrote:
> > I think I broke my AUX button tonight.
> >
> > Is there anyone who can fiox this?
>
> how about i trade you my working AUX switch if you give me
> your
> working microSD reader?
>
Don
--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Brolin Empey wrote:
> (...) probably close to 2 hours writing this message.
I do not want to feed the trolls nor intend to hijack this thread, but I seem
to have missed the mention of a Freerunner?
Besides that, I can recognize you put a lot of effort into writing the essay
> Am 13.09.2010 um 10:44 schrieb Patryk Benderz:
> > Best wishes to all of you guys writing code or filing
> bug reports for
> > FreeRunner devices! :)
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer_Day
> From: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Good idea!
> We should have and celebrate that day in othe
--- On Sun, 9/12/10, Christoph Mair wrote:
> after lots of hard work I'm happy to announce that the
> Freerunner Navigation
> Board v2 is finally available!
It looks great, congratulations!
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Hi List,
I am trying to use OpenWRT with my WPA access point. I can't figure out whether
there's anything on board in the standard image to support WPA protected
connections.
Opkg gives wpa_supplicant, but it is not available for Freerunner
(architecture). The same goes for some other packages
--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Carsten Gerlach wrote:
> Thanks for this hint to openWRT. But i have problems to get
> a connection over
> wifi to the internet. I did read the wiki (...)
>
> How can I solve this?
I intended to give a hand, but I can't find the uSD with OpenWRT anymore to try
it out. I d
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Radek Polak wrote:
> On Sunday 29 August 2010 16:03:39
> Carsten Gerlach wrote:
>
> > What would be a good starting distro? I would take
(...)
> openwrt. It's very
> very small and the build process is very easily
> configurable with menuconfig.
I second OpenWRT. The image
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Martin Jansa wrote:
> angstrom-next is using almost the same toolchain as we're,
(...)
> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus
> sdk toolchain options are shown only after switching to
> "advanced" options,
> but there is no option for angstrom-next..
Ha, but there
> And fresh new SHR toolchain:
> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/sdk/
And fresh it is! Long live SSH, allowing me to run it on a remote desktop
(should have thought of that before :-) )
Downloaded the files and now extracting to /usr/local/shr/*
Am I correct in understanding that I ca
> it is not the right way to do it but you may try
> downloading the old
> OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target
> upgrade) with
> the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the
> SHR world
> until you have your new laptop it could work maybe.
Praying is not my str
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> (...) 8Gb ram) and downloads about 15Gb of data, so a more
> powerfull machine then
> your laptop would be good.
Hahah... The harddisk is 20GB.. I lend my desktop (with about 3GHz single core
AMD a bit more up to date) to my sister... Perhaps she l
Hi List,
I'd like to start trying to contribute to the Openmoko-ecosystem in a more
meaningful manner than lurking the mailinglists.
I also like to see if I can add my own twist to my phone (running SHR-U). I
imagined combining those two wishes by getting a toolchain running and see what
happe
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> > Maybe we should enable it by default? Are there any
> disadventages?
>
> +5 for this.
> I think OM20x distros had it enabled by default, possibly
> also debian
> based distros. And it was good.
> Enabling it by defau
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Niels Heyvaert wrote:
> This looks like a pretty comprehensive how-to.
>
> Anyone documenting this on the Wiki?
I benefited most of the conversation, so I had a look on the wiki and searched
for "ssh $DISPLAY forward", which gave some 40 (not always relevant) results;
t
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> - if you use kdm or xdm, I don't know :S
I recall having edited /etc/kde/kdmrc to set XDMCP to true instead of false,
and Xacces (in /etc/X11?) to get XDMCP between laptop and desktop, but too long
ago to recall the details ;-)
> If you want to
... and this one should have some answer, before sending it.. (do I already
have a monopoly on this list? Sorry for spamming)
> --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Xavier Cremaschi
> > a computer with :
> > - a working X server (mainly Xorg)
> > - a working ssh client with -X option (mainly
> > openssh-client)
excuse me for going through the mailing lists for dummies stage... This mail is
for community, not just for Dirk :-)
> From: W. B. Kranendonk
> Subject: Re: [SHR] X forwarding: export DISPLAY?
> To: "Dirk Gassen"
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:32 PM
> --- On
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Gerald A wrote:
(an elaborate help on asking help, as below)
Thanks Gerald for your extensive suggestions! I think my problem is solved, but
for the record I'll update my problem description.
> One thing would be more information in your problem report. I think you
> are
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> From: Xavier Cremaschi
> Subject: Re: [SHR] X forwarding: export DISPLAY?
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:10 PM
> Basically, you need
>
> a computer with :
> - a working X server (mainly Xorg)
> - a working
Hi list and readers,
I am trying to figure out how to export my display when using ssh -Y (or X).
The only hint I found was a thread (exactly) a year ago (let's celebrate and
make 15-8 ssh -Y-day ;-) ): "X forwarding doesn't work" (*)
I have been fiddling with it time and again over the past m
--- On Mon, 7/21/08, Christoph Pulster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The stock (..)new delivery on 15.08. (..)
Thanks for the update. Does it mean that the 25.07 stock has been sold out as
well?
I also only got the automatic reply so far. Is there a way to find out whether
one is on the 25.07 or
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Olivier Migeot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe we should only insert the card once the fix is
> acquired. At
> least at times where we want to use both GPS and SD. Not
> much of a
> solution,
It takes removal of the battery to insert the SD, so it's a bit of a cumbersome
Hi all,
Is there information on the number of produced, tested and shipped devices?
Is that information public, or is it sensitive in some way? I was triggered by
Pulster having sold out for this month, and wondered how demand and supply line
up.
Any comments?
Boudewijn
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--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>(...troll-hunting/killing...)
>
> To me he looks quite trollish.
I think so too, but thanks for the in depth and clear reply!
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> just expressing my interest in this thread.
Replying for the same reason.
I was comparing the phone with the PCB,
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Menu9.jpg with
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02a5_pcba_cs.JPG ,
and it seems that there is quite "not a lot" of space left.
The site g
> (Macross tossing...)
> Would be a cool application of the gesture project. The
> receiver would
> have to catch, not exactly at the same time, in order to
> confirm
> receipt.
>
> Possibly incompatible with consumption of buttered
> toast.
Hey, that app would also enable my opponent to thr
--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AVee wrote:
> >> (...) There are a lot of reasons
> >> why this is not feasible. Sorry.
> >
> > I tend to agree, however, things might change if you
> add gps. You'd might just (...) That leaves only the
> 'exact measurement' to be
Hi List,
I wondered, can two bluetooth devices ping each other and find out their
distance or relative speeds?
Not in the first place as some security tag to unlock my PC or house, but to
use in a game-like setting. Imagine some live role playing game, where weapons
not only are simulated usin
Great news, thanks for the update!
--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Harry Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Harry Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Openmoko official resell partners
> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"
> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 11:43 AM
> Dear Community,
> You sho
Way to go! Please send best regards to all who have
made it possible so far :-))
Kind regards,
Boudewijn
--- steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The latest update I have from the factory indicates
> that mass Production (
> that means running the SMT line without stopping to
> check stuff eve
Dear Listers!
It almost slipped my mind that today it already IS the
9 of Juli. Checked the website and did not find it
offline, as before. Everything seems to work out fine,
congratulations Sean and the team!
I guess there are quite a few Dutch subscribers to the
list. Does anyone want to share
> > From: "Frank Coenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: AND donate entire Netherlands to
> OpenStreetMap
> Message: 5
>
> Whoops. I was to excited to read the rest of the
> article:
>
> India and China as well. That is just mindblowing
> good news!
>
> > see: http://www.
> Steven ** wrote:
>> As far as mainstream press, check out June 2007
issue
>> of Popular Science
>> magazine. The Neo is one of "29 Hot Products".
>
> FYI,
>
> the phase 1 Neo1973 will also be featured briefly in
> upcoming german
> c't magazine 13/2007, page 28.
>
> -Sven
If I recall corre
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