CDR: How Free is the Free Market?

2002-12-31 Thread Matthew X
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2002-12-31 Thread Matthew X
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Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Tim May wrote... > > "I don't believe, necessarily, in certain forms of the Copenhagen > Interpretation, especially anything about signals propagating > instantaneously, 'instantaneously' from -whose- perspective? > Yes, this has been a fashionable set

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote: > Does a paradox ever help in understanding any thing? Yes, it can demonstrate that you aren't asking the right questions within the correct context. > We define a paradox on a base of rules we want to > prove. No, a paradox is two things we accept that im

Silver coin banks to oppose the Fed?

2002-12-31 Thread GaryJeffers
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2002-12-31 Thread Matthew X
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Yemeni government approved assassination of an American.

2002-12-31 Thread Matthew X
Yemen's said for the first time that it asked the United States to carry out last month's missile attack which killed six suspected al Qaeda members. The Yemeni government has made the announcement in a report to parliament on militant activity in the Arab state, where a gunman today killed three

Re: How Free is the Free Market?

2002-12-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:42 PM +0800 on 1/1/03, Marc de Piolenc wrote: > Who's "we," Professor Chomsky? I sure as hell don't call it that, nor > does any free-market advocate that I know. This is simply a Socialist > striking a straw man, nicht wahr? No. It's a troll by someone who's in almost everyone *else's* ki

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 5:07 PM +1300 on 1/1/03, Peter Gutmann wrote: > She didn't bat an eyelid, > nor was she concerned that he had the cards and I was buying the > books. Not My Problem. I'm sure many other people besides myself have had a cashier swipe her own card

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2002-12-31 Thread Matthew X
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Re: Quantum Probability and Decision Theory

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:57:58AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > First, I sent this in error to the CP list...it was intended for > another list. (My mailer has command completion and I am so used to > typing "cy" in the To: box and having it expand to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" that I sent it to CP by accide

Suggested Reading: Crypto in fiction

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Choate
Found another example of crypto use in fiction: Collected Ghost Stories "The Treasure of Abbot Thomas" (1904) Montague Rhodes James (1862-1936) ISBN 1-85326-053-3 (Wordsworth Classic, '92) Apparently some consider James to be the 'finest ghost-story writer England has ever produced". -- _

Re: re:constant encryped stream

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > Is there a way to RELIABLY find the mail was opened? There are a variety of plastics and such that will change color and break-down; the new time-limited DVD's that become unplayable after some short period of days after opening the air tight contain

Americans Revolt in Pennsylvania - New Battle Lines Are Drawn

2002-12-31 Thread Steve Schear
[It will be interesting to see where this could go if Nadar, Demos and other anti-corporate types take up the banner.] "Corporations shall not be considered to be 'persons' protected by the Constitution of the United States or the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania within the Seco

Re: Recommended: "Catch Me If You Can," a film

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 02:23 PM, Michael Cardenas wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote: ... (The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and I'll put it on. Along with "A Beautiful Mind," also of interest to us.) " The tree of libe

Re: Recommended: "Catch Me If You Can," a film

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote: ... > > (The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and > I'll put it on. Along with "A Beautiful Mind," also of interest to us.) > > " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the > blood of patrio

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Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:27 PM 12/31/2002 -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:12:02PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote: > As for your point about prescription drugs, box cutters, kitchen knives > being trackable, I assume this is a trol

Happy New Year!

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Choate
If you are going to drink, don't drive. -- We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer

Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-31 Thread Bill Stewart
At 09:49 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote: Interesting point on grocery cards... Why do they have your name at all? Remember when people used checks and had check cashing cards at grocery stores? Some grocery store chains used courtesy cards to replace that function. More importantly,

Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-31 Thread Adam Shostack
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote: | At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: | >Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a | >credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in | >the name Doe. | | Interesting poi

Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 12:58 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote: | At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: | >Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a | >credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired memb

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 12:03 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote: Yes. So? Notice that exactly the same type of coupon is printed out with a cash or non >courtesy card purchase. It's a purely local calculation. In programming terms, >a purely local variable situation. No. Obviously the coupon was closely linked

Recommended: "Catch Me If You Can," a film

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
I recommend "Catch Me If You Can," the new Spielberg-DiCapprio-Hanks movie about Frank W. Abignale, Jr., a true story of how Abignale ran away from home around 1964, forged checks, posed as an airline copilot, then as a doctor, then as a lawyer, while honing his craft in forging and identity fa

re:constant encryped stream

2002-12-31 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> Also, in the US, the police can request a "mail cover" > (which means recording who all your snail mail is from) > with much less legal formality than a search warrant, > and if they get a warrant to open all your incoming mail, > I don't think they're required to notify you. Is there a way to R

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Adam Shostack
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:02:48AM -0800, Tim May wrote: | On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: | | >At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: | >>Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a | >>credit card with the name Shostack, and

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2002-12-31 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:41 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote: I only ask this because I'm deciding whether to study computational neuroscience or cryptography in grad school. Are you planning to get a PhD and/or do research, or just a terminal master's degree to do engineering? If you're planning to do

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote: How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems affecting cryptography in general? By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural ne

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:12:02PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote: > >But what if this data is used as part of a larger picture, such as in > >TIA. It definitely can be used, along with gas purchases, to track > >where a suspect, aka a ci

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote: But what if this data is used as part of a larger picture, such as in TIA. It definitely can be used, along with gas purchases, to track where a suspect, aka a citizen, is living. Also, many possible weapons such as perscription

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 11:02 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote: On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hu

biological systems and cryptography

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems affecting cryptography in general? By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural networks, vecor support machines, associative memory, etc. It seems to m

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:02:48AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: > > >At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: > >>Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a > >>credit card with the name Shostack, and

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 11:02 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote: On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membershi

Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in the name Doe. Interesting point on gr

Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote: Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in the name Doe. Interesting point on grocery cards... Why do they have your name at all? Every grocery ca

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Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-31 Thread Adam Shostack
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2002-12-31 Thread Matthew X
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2002-12-31 Thread Matthew X
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re:constant encryped stream

2002-12-31 Thread Sarad AV
hi, Thank you for the reply. > they didn't really explain why; I think it was > leftover > regulations from wartime censorship during World War > II > or the Korean Police Action. I think so. > > Also, in the US, the police can request a "mail > cover" > (which means recording who all your sn