Re: firefox-8.0.1

2011-11-21 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 04:16:54PM -0600, Bob Tracy wrote: > The subject release appeared less than a day ago, so it seemed like a > good time to try out gcc/g++-4.6. Will try a non-optimized build > without the "nsThreadUtils*" patches to see how that goes. When I last &

firefox-8.0.1

2011-11-16 Thread Bob Tracy
The subject release appeared less than a day ago, so it seemed like a good time to try out gcc/g++-4.6. Will try a non-optimized build without the "nsThreadUtils*" patches to see how that goes. When I last tried such a build (version 4.0.1), I got segfaults until I put the "nsThreadUtils*" patche

[BUG] pulseaudio mutex lock issue is back

2011-11-16 Thread Bob Tracy
Our old friend is back: Assertion 'pthread_mutex_unlock(&m->mutex) == 0' failed at pulsecore/mutex-posix.c:106, function pa_mutex_unlock(). Aborting. An easy way to reproduce: run either firefox or iceweasel, then click on the drop-down menu in the upper-left corner -- the application immediatel

Bug#648994: qt4-x11: g++-4.4 optimizer broken on Alpha

2011-11-16 Thread Bob Tracy
Source: qt4-x11 Version: 4:4.7.3-8 Severity: important Tags: patch Dear Maintainer, Due to a bug in the g++-4.4 optimizer, the normal "-O2" build of "qt4-x11" binary packages results in segfaults on the alpha architecture when apps are run that use the "qt4" libraries. This includes "kdm" and th

Re: multiple KDE segfault issues

2011-11-16 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:55:59PM -0600, Bob Tracy wrote: > (...) > Separate from the optimizer issue, KMS bugs apparently *not* specific to > Alpha are being seen by others, and they are seeing black screens, system > freezes, etc., same as I am. > > Bottom line: I have high

Re: multiple KDE segfault issues

2011-11-15 Thread Bob Tracy
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 01:07:13AM -0600, Bob Tracy wrote: > (...) > "kdm" currently segfaults during kdm-greeting. To reproduce, enter > your login name and tab to the password entry field: "kdm" will > immediately segfault and reinitialize. Using

Bug#648761: webkit: FTBFS on Alpha: arch missing from 01_double-conversion.patch

2011-11-14 Thread Bob Tracy
Source: webkit Version: 1.6.1-5 Severity: serious Tags: patch Justification: fails to build from source (but built successfully in the past) Dear Maintainer, This actually applies to 1.6.1-4 as well. The Alpha architecture passes the test mentioned in "webkit-1.6.1/Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/dtoa

multiple KDE segfault issues

2011-11-12 Thread Bob Tracy
I figured the subject was probably as good a summary of what I'm seeing as anything else... Here's the observed current state of the major graphical environments on Alpha: (1) Gnome-3 "gdm3" works. After login, screen is black except for mouse pointer. Logging in remotely and looking at

webkit 1.6.1-4

2011-11-10 Thread Bob Tracy
Just an update for those who have been following along and maybe waiting for news... Successfully built the subject package over the course of the past two weeks. Huge amount of disk space required, not to mention RAM + swap. The process put my poor old 433au to the test in many ways :-(. The pa

Re: [FTBFS] epiphany-browser 3.0.4-1

2011-10-31 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:53:25PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Thanks for the additional detail on the webkit build failure. I'll take > a closer look and see if a likely solution presents itself. Could the webkit fix *really* be this easy? Here's a modified version of the curren

Re: [FTBFS] epiphany-browser 3.0.4-1

2011-10-31 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 11:27:59AM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > (...) > epiphany-browser depends on webkit and the new version of webkit FTBFS > too. > (...) #$%@! I guess I'm just about to run into that problem, then. Just got done upgrading "glib2.0", which was another epiphany-browser depen

[FTBFS] epiphany-browser 3.0.4-1

2011-10-31 Thread Bob Tracy
(Just a heads-up here because the problem is being worked upstream.) See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=643376 for details. Summary: dpkg upgrades have turned on format string security for some builds, and the subject version of "epiphany-browser" got speared. This applies to b

desktop reset

2011-10-28 Thread Bob Tracy
I know this isn't the place to ask, but the amount of dreck returned by Google on the subject is generally either incomplete or just plain wrong. I also figure fellow Alpha users have been here :-(. Recent upgrades to KDE (now KDE4) and Gnome (now Gnome 3) have left me without a working GUI. I g

Re: gcc default

2011-10-26 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:29:36PM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > (...) Does anyone object to > me requesting the gcc maintainers to default gcc to gcc-4.6 on Alpha? Might as well increase the number of testers, eh? :-) Go for it. Besides, I was beginning to wonder when I could safely reduce the nu

[BUG] console-kit-daemon

2011-10-18 Thread Bob Tracy
Maybe... Might not be "consolekit" at all... I used "ssh" to login on my alpha this morning, and a simple "ps -ef" triggered the following (retrieved from the physical console when the "ps" hung): Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 0010 console-kit-dae(2477): O

Re: new X server doesn't find input devices

2011-10-10 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:51:47AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Perhaps a stupid question, but does it then follow that the Xserver > "AutoAddDevices" functionality depends only on things entirely > within X? That would at least narrow down the target audience for a > bug re

Re: new X server doesn't find input devices

2011-10-10 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:06:23AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 21:08:11 -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > > > Dunno... Something in the hal <--> dbus <--> udev chain might be broken, > > or maybe the mechanism Xserver uses to access what hal kno

Re: new X server doesn't find input devices

2011-10-09 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:57:47AM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > On 10/10/11 07:18, Bob Tracy wrote: > > Looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I see the following I think I remember > > seeing in older X server releases: > > > > [59.191] (II) The server relies on udev t

new X server doesn't find input devices

2011-10-09 Thread Bob Tracy
"XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "

Re: iceweasel-6.0.2

2011-09-29 Thread Bob Tracy
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 09:04:07AM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > On 30/09/2011, at 7:47 AM, Bob Tracy wrote: > >(broken optimizer) > Which compiler version? The default gcc-4.4? Maybe gcc-4.5 or > gcc-4.6 would be better? There is a bug report of bad optimisation in >

Re: iceweasel-6.0.2

2011-09-29 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 01:04:24PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > I presume there are patches to make it all work? Posting those is a > good place to start. Need to get in touch with the package maintainer to determine how to proceed. I fear the odds of a workable solution are slim. Among other iss

iceweasel-6.0.2

2011-09-29 Thread Bob Tracy
Woo-HOO! I'm pleased to announce a successful Alpha build of iceweasel 6.0.2-1, xulrunner-6.0 6.0.2-1, and libmozjs6d 6.0.2-1. I would *like* to make the ".deb" packages available for interested parties to download and test, but I don't have the bandwidth locally. Assuming someone offers me an u

Re: telepathy-glib 0.15.5-1 test issues

2011-09-12 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > On the Alpha platform, the "telepathy-glib" package appears to be > building correctly, but the tests are time-sensitive and some of them fail > "randomly" based on whether the package is being built on the c

Re: telepathy-glib test issues

2011-09-12 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:47:21AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Gr... The "telepathy-glib" package appears to be building > correctly, but the tests are time-sensitive and some of them fail > "randomly" based on whether the package is being built on the console >

telepathy-glib test issues

2011-09-12 Thread Bob Tracy
Gr... The "telepathy-glib" package appears to be building correctly, but the tests are time-sensitive and some of them fail "randomly" based on whether the package is being built on the console (relatively fast I/O) or over a remote network connection (somewhat slower I/O). The problem is tha

Re: toolchain updates

2011-09-11 Thread Bob Tracy
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 07:55:04AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > I would check that you have perl version 5.12.x installed. > > I still recommend running 'apt-get install build-essential' as that may > upgrade other stuff such as make, dpkg, etc. Since you are building > packages yourself you shou

toolchain updates

2011-09-08 Thread Bob Tracy
The piecemeal upgrade approach I've tried seems to have paid off, at least slightly... "apt-get install gcc-4.4 libc6.1 libc6.1-dev" resulted in only seven package removals: libgnome2-perl, libgnome2-vfs-perl, libperl5.10, libpurple0, libsvn-perl, pidgin, and svn-buildpackage. None seem critical.

Re: [BUG] libgcc1 1:4.5.3-8

2011-09-07 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 09:55:45AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > It's good to see you giving this all a go! We need more people who > are prepared to get their hands dirty and start trying out the > unstable alpha distribution and make reports on how it is going. Something about fools rushing

Re: [BUG] libgcc1 1:4.5.3-8

2011-09-07 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 07:39:47AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > On 08/09/11 04:39, Bob Tracy wrote: > > (...) "libgcc_s.so --> libgcc_s.so.1" symlink (missing). (...) > > Indeed. You need to update libc and gcc. > (...) > Make sure that you have libc6.1, &g

[BUG] libgcc1 1:4.5.3-8

2011-09-07 Thread Bob Tracy
No idea how it got missed, but simple "hello world" C programs wouldn't compile due to a missing "libgcc_s.so --> libgcc_s.so.1" symlink. If "ldconfig" is responsible for creating that symlink, then "ldconfig" is broken. "libc-bin" on my system is version 2.11.2-13. I'm guessing some kind of mul

Re: Alpha build progress and suggestions for helping

2011-09-05 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 07:22:27AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > On 06/09/11 04:07, Bob Tracy wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 01:21:52PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > >> (...) > >> Many have failed because of a broken ghostscript install. Unfortunately > >> th

Re: Alpha build progress and suggestions for helping

2011-09-05 Thread Bob Tracy
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 01:21:52PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > (...) > Many have failed because of a broken ghostscript install. Unfortunately > the newest ghostscript failed to build but I plan to have a closer look > at that in the next couple of days. So ignore any packages with the > error: "

Re: more Alpha package updates

2011-08-06 Thread Bob Tracy
Started down the rabbit hole that is "gnome" package building :-(. Eventually ran into a build dependency conflict that required forcing the configuration of a built and installed-but-unconfigured package (libgtk-3-dev) to allow one of its dependencies (dconf-gsettings-backend) to be built. Not su

Re: ghostscript packages for Alpha

2011-08-04 Thread Bob Tracy
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:26:13AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > You guys may have been able to compile certain packages on your > systems because you have an old install that is partially upgraded. Can't speak for anyone else reading this, but my "unstable" setup was current within a week (mi

more Alpha package updates

2011-08-04 Thread Bob Tracy
(The original subject header was getting old...) Python 2.6.7-4 built successfully. Here's the resulting package list: idle-python2.6_2.6.7-4_all.deb libpython2.6_2.6.7-4_alpha.deb python2.6_2.6.7-4_alpha.deb python2.6-dbg_2.6.7-4_alpha.deb python2.6-dev_2.6.7-4_alpha.deb python2.6-doc_2.6.7-4_a

Re: ghostscript packages for Alpha

2011-08-04 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:05:02PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 08:32:11AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > > We'll see how the "ghostscript" build goes today. > > Done. I'll give it a cursory going-over this evening, i.e., try to > print som

Re: ghostscript packages for Alpha

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 08:32:11AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > We'll see how the "ghostscript" build goes today. Done. I'll give it a cursory going-over this evening, i.e., try to print something. Here's the list of binary packages: ghostscript_9.02~dfsg-3_alpha.de

Re: ghostscript packages for Alpha

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 12:33:45PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > (...) > So, I would not be surprised if building ghostscript is still two > week's away. ACK. Current backlog of packages on my system that are upgradable but being kept back (according to apt-get) currently numbers 120. Mostly, i

ghostscript packages for Alpha

2011-07-21 Thread Bob Tracy
So... As it turns out, printing on my alpha has been broken for a while. Tracing back through the logs, the root cause is a missing "gs_init.ps" file, which really isn't missing: there's a version mismatch between the package providing the file, and the package needing the file. Here are the rel

Re: recent udev upgrade failure on alpha

2011-07-15 Thread Bob Tracy
th a valid workaround rather than risk modifying and having to debug "libc" :-). -- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist

Re: alpha architecture imported in debian-ports.org

2011-05-18 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 08:49:33AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > On 19/05/2011, at 12:51 AM, Bob Tracy wrote: > > Has anyone stepped forward to provide > >alpha build daemons? > > Yes, Bill and Witold have set up build daemons and we have > communicated with the debian-po

Re: recent udev upgrade failure on alpha

2011-05-18 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 05:28:42PM +0200, Uwe Schindler wrote: > > > I had some time today to try again an upgrade of my AlphaStation 500 > > > to "linux-image-2.6.38-2-alpha-generic". I got again an error on > > > loading the xfs.ko module from initrd (I typed it manually from the > > > boot scre

Re: alpha architecture imported in debian-ports.org

2011-05-18 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:22:52PM +0200, 'Aurelien Jarno' wrote: > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:00:55PM +0200, Uwe Schindler wrote: > > (...) > > So there seem to be some files/packages missing? > > The build daemons on alpha have been shutdown for more than a month, so > a lot of packages are out

Re: firefox-4.0.1

2011-05-16 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 09:36:37AM +0200, Witold Baryluk wrote: > Good work! Keep testing, run some benchmarks please. > I im interested about improvements from interpreted JS from 3.6 > to interpreted JS in 4.0 :) I don't have anything formal in the way of benchmarks. However, a web site I visit

Re: firefox-4.0.1

2011-05-11 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 09:02:06PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > Nice! Thanks... > Could you send through those patches to get 4.0.1 working please? Attached. They're small enough to risk offending the few debian-alpha subscribers who might not be interested :-). > (...) But as Witold has point

Re: firefox-4.0.1

2011-05-10 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 02:48:05PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Build successfully completed. Segfaults immediately on invocation: no > surprise there. I'll report back when I've got something working, and I > expect that will be a while: the combination of tool chain updates and

Re: firefox-4.0.1

2011-05-10 Thread Bob Tracy
Build successfully completed. Segfaults immediately on invocation: no surprise there. I'll report back when I've got something working, and I expect that will be a while: the combination of tool chain updates and the huge size of the mozilla code base makes for tedious debugging. --Bob -- To

Re: firefox-4.0.1

2011-05-10 Thread Bob Tracy
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 08:06:38AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > Could you send through your updated patch for > xpcom/glue/nsThreadUtils.[cpp,h] that was required on the 3.6. series? Patches sent in a separate message. Update: the firefox build documentation at developer.mozilla.org hasn't been

Re: firefox-4.0.1

2011-05-07 Thread Bob Tracy
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 09:12:36AM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > On 07/05/11 07:11, Bob Tracy wrote: > >Just a quick note to let interested parties know I'm working on a 4.0.1 > >firefox build for alpha. > > Cool! Are you working only on upstream firefox or also on ic

firefox-4.0.1

2011-05-06 Thread Bob Tracy
tional 788 MB of packages I would have to download and install, just for the sake of having the yasm documentation available. -- -------- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com

Re: Advancing Debian Alpha Porting

2011-04-14 Thread Bob Tracy
than one-off custom stuff (including the things I'm personally willing to wait on, like glibc builds when absolutely required :-)). If my 433au can contribute meaningfully in any way, I'll be glad to make it happen. -- ---------

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

2011-03-29 Thread Bob Tracy
(Recipient list is getting a bit unwieldy. That's not necessarily a bad thing :-). Delighted to see all the interest in Alpha, even if it took "the community" a while to wake up.) Agreed that Steve Langasek is a logical/necessary person to contact if this revival has a chance of succeeding. As

Re: recent udev upgrade failure on alpha

2011-02-24 Thread Bob Tracy
ersion of "/sbin/udevd" and was finally able to configure the installed package (as well as the other 49-or-so packages). That's more excitement than I wanted this evening: local time is now 0424 and I've been up since 0700 yesterday :-(. -- -

Re: recent udev upgrade failure on alpha

2011-02-23 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 01:02:03AM -0600, Bob Tracy wrote: > Running "dpkg --configure udev" gives me the following: > > udevd[pid]: inotify_init failed: Function not implemented > udevd[pid]: error initializing inotify > > and the post-installation script fails. &

recent udev upgrade failure on alpha

2011-02-23 Thread Bob Tracy
ev, and I *do* have network connectivity for transferring stuff in/out as needed. -- ---- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist the

Re: firefox-3.6.8

2010-08-12 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:25:00PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Some "impactful" (yet minor looking) changes were made to > "xpcom/glue/nsThreadUtils.[cpp,h]". Replacing the 3.5.5 versions of > these two files with their 3.5.4 counterparts and rebuilding yielded a

Re: firefox-3.6.8

2010-08-12 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:22:41AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > The "few intermediate functions" (in case they're significant in this > context) are: > > CallGetService() > nsGetServiceByCIDWithError::operator()() > nsCOMPtr_base::assign_from_gs_cid_

Re: firefox-3.6.8

2010-08-12 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Well, 3.5.5 is where the problem seems to have been introduced. > Regardless of the toolchain and firefox version, the stack backtrace > looks something like this (for the illegal instruction fault in &g

Re: firefox-3.6.8

2010-08-12 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:44:10PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > On 12/08/10 07:14, Bob Tracy wrote: > >firefox-3.5.4 build with gcc/g++-4.2.4 completed moments ago, and it works. > >On to 3.5.5: not going to mess with gcc/g++-4.4.5 for the time being -- > >each build is ta

Re: firefox-3.6.8

2010-08-11 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:57:37PM +0800, James Andrewartha wrote: > There's icedtea6-plugin, but it looks like it's not available for alpha at > the moment. Thanks for the pointer: I'll look into it. firefox-3.5.4 build with gcc/g++-4.2.4 completed moments ago, and it works. On to 3.5.5: not go

Re: firefox-3.6.8

2010-08-10 Thread Bob Tracy
Tried a 3.5.3 build to rule out source tree changes as a possible cause of the illegal instruction faults and segfaults. The build with gcc/g++ 4.2.4 and the latest unstable binutils (as of yesterday evening) works. Time to retry 3.5.11 with gcc/g++ 4.4.5 since binutils has changed. If that fail

Re: current state of sid (unstable)

2010-08-09 Thread Bob Tracy
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 10:28:58PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > And another to add to the list discovered while trying to send emails to > the Debian bug tracker (how ironic): > > 9) Icedove regularly crashes while composing emails. > > On a positive note I see that OpenOffice.org is now in the

firefox-3.6.8

2010-08-05 Thread Bob Tracy
Having successfully upgraded to sid, I'm in the process of trying a firefox-3.6.8 build from the mozilla source tree (modulo the usual small patches for alpha). I was pleased to find that a 3.5.3 build I made before my primary hard disk died works with an up-to-date sid: symbol reference errors ke

Re: current state of sid (unstable)

2010-08-04 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 10:14:02PM +1200, Michael Cree wrote: > On 04/08/10 01:48, Bob Tracy wrote: > >So... What's the current state of unstable on Alpha? I've been told > >the following so far: > > Thinking about that list further we should add: > > 8)

current state of sid (unstable)

2010-08-03 Thread Bob Tracy
Long time, no involvement :-(. A primary hard disk failure a number of months ago took the wind out of my sails, and I wasn't sure I wanted to reengage on this particular battlefield. In the final analysis, I don't have the time I once did, but in a perverse kind of way, it's kinda fun. So... W

Lenny installation successful

2010-02-26 Thread Bob Tracy
ce the default depth down to 16 bpp. Alternatively, I could have gone with 1024x768x24 if I really needed to run at that depth. -- -------- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to s

advanced debian-installer interaction

2010-02-25 Thread Bob Tracy
ponse as to whether it should proceed. So, I switched to one of the interactive session virtual consoles, did a "ps" to get the process ID of "aptitude", and did the following: # cd /proc//fd # echo "Yes" > 0 Lo and behold, that did the trick. I *do* love "

Does SRM care what IDE optical drive it sees?

2010-02-25 Thread Bob Tracy
27;ll consider the possibility)? -- -------- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin | slitt

Re: CD tray won't stay closed

2010-02-25 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 09:22:28PM +0100, Hartwig Atrops wrote: > > I installed Lenny on my PWS500au a while agao - without CD drive trouble. > > On Thursday 25 February 2010 20:46, Bob Tracy wrote: > > (...) > > > > Found a Toshiba IDE CD-RW drive for $9 that I&#x

CD tray won't stay closed

2010-02-25 Thread Bob Tracy
messages from "syslog" if the problem persists with the new drive.) -- ---- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin | slitting throats." -- H.L. Menc

rebuilding PWS 433au

2010-02-23 Thread Bob Tracy
erein). -- ---- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin | slitting throats."

Miata boot drive dead

2010-02-21 Thread Bob Tracy
stribution. -- -------- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin | slitting throats."

Re: /debian/dists/testing/Contents-alpha* missing

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Tracy
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:04:38AM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > (...) But I really don't have the time to become a Debian Alpha > porter which is what I think is really needed if we are to score another > official Alpha release. (...) Such is the lot of many of us, I'm afraid :-(. I don't mind

Re: Re: /debian/dists/testing/Contents-alpha* missing

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 04:50:29PM +0100, Uwe Schindler wrote: > But unstable should still work? Or is it even broken therefore? :/ "Unstable" still works: thanks for the reminder. However, Alpha users will, of necessity, have to get a bit more involved in troubleshooting and/or fixing problems.

/debian/dists/testing/Contents-alpha* missing

2009-10-29 Thread Bob Tracy
Has "testing" officially gone bye-bye for Alpha? Or is the unavailability of the index files a temporary glitch? Thanks... --Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-alpha-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: [BUG] 2.6.32-rc5 build failure on Alpha

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:53:05PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Mainline 2.6.32-rc5 kernel build failure. The last few lines of the kernel > build output are: > > LD vmlinux.o > MODPOST vmlinux.o > WARNING: "saved_config" [vmlinux] is COMMON symbol > GEN

Re: [BUG] 2.6.32-rc5 build failure on Alpha

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Tracy
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:53:05PM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > Mainline 2.6.32-rc5 kernel build failure. The last few lines of the kernel > build output are: > > LD vmlinux.o > MODPOST vmlinux.o > WARNING: "saved_config" [vmlinux] is COMMON symbol > GEN

[BUG] 2.6.32-rc5 build failure on Alpha

2009-10-28 Thread Bob Tracy
/version.o LD init/built-in.o LD .tmp_vmlinux1 arch/alpha/kernel/vmlinux.lds:241: undefined symbol `THREAD_SIZE' referenced in expression make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 -- -------- Bob Tracy | "E

Xserver working on Alpha - finally

2009-10-27 Thread Bob Tracy
(Thought it was time for a new subject...) Brief synopsis of story thus far... Upgraded X11 infrastructure in the hope of fixing whatever the updates to "Testing" broke several months ago. The new server and radeon driver almost worked: mouse cursor was normal brightness, but the rest of the dis

Re: X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-27 Thread Bob Tracy
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:23:25AM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > (...) There is an x86 emulator in the Xserver and it can read > and use the video BIOS. On my Radeon 9200 the int10 code loads fine > and I get the message: > > (II) RADEON(0): Legacy BIOS detected > > The Xserver can now POST v

Re: X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-26 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 08:18:05AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:05:10PM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > > Bob Tracy wrote: > > >Long story short: 1.7.0.902 fixed the problems with modules not loading > > >because of undefined symbols, but the end re

Re: X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-26 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:05:10PM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > Bob Tracy wrote: > >Long story short: 1.7.0.902 fixed the problems with modules not loading > >because of undefined symbols, but the end result is no better than what > >I reported for the earlier 1.7.0 version.

Re: X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-21 Thread Bob Tracy
Long story short: 1.7.0.902 fixed the problems with modules not loading because of undefined symbols, but the end result is no better than what I reported for the earlier 1.7.0 version. The mouse cursor is normal brightness, but the display is otherwise extremely dim: it's so dim it appears to be

Re: X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-20 Thread Bob Tracy
wo are just > tidying up the code to reduce the number of compiler warnings. In that spirit, 1.7.0.902 (which includes your patch) was announced hot on the heels of your posting. I'll give it a spin later today when I've got time to build it. -- --------

Re: X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-18 Thread Bob Tracy
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 02:56:49PM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 01:38:11AM -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:38:33PM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > > > Unfortunately Alpha disappears from Debian testing just before we get >

Re: X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-15 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:38:33PM +1300, Michael Cree wrote: > Unfortunately Alpha disappears from Debian testing just before we get > a working Xserver... That has been the most frustrating aspect of this whole journey. Xserver has been broken in "testing" for over a month and a half. I assure

X11 server on alpha -- update

2009-10-15 Thread Bob Tracy
t particular failure made me blink a bit :-). -- -------- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin

Re: current status of alpha in squeeze

2009-10-08 Thread Bob Tracy
ger available :-(. If "testing" is the only thing that's disappearing, I can live with continued availability of "unstable" and "experimental" packages. -- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man

gnome-settings-daemon fixed in testing

2009-09-25 Thread Bob Tracy
. -- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin | slitting throats." -- H.

Re: [BUG] recent squeeze X11 updates causing SIGSEGV on startup

2009-09-14 Thread Bob Tracy
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:38:27AM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:27:28 -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Thanks for the report. I was getting the exact same failure as you. > >> > >> The crash happe

[BUG] recent squeeze X11 updates causing SIGSEGV on startup

2009-09-14 Thread Bob Tracy
ies of this adapter, please see http://gatos.sf.net. (!!) RADEON(0): MergedFB support has been removed and replaced with xrandr 1.2 support (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit 1000 0 0 Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X(xorg_backtrace+0x4c) [0x120131d9c] 1: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x60) [0x1200a9850] 2:

Re: [RFC] Dropping Alpha sparse mapping support from X

2009-09-04 Thread Bob Tracy
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:02:57AM +0100, Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 21:50 -0500, Bob Tracy wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 05:25:29PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 05:08:00PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > > > > I&

Re: [RFC] Dropping Alpha sparse mapping support from X

2009-09-03 Thread Bob Tracy
e change. Anyone else out there? Got a PWS 433au: EV56. Proposed change would have no impact here. -- Bob Tracy | "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit r...@frus.com | upon h

Re: Bug#541402: alpha: plasma segfault on kde4 startup

2009-08-30 Thread Bob Tracy
ACK on the below indicated packages. I won't have any free time to devote to this until this coming Thursday, but I *will* do what I can to help. Thanks! --Bob On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:55:35AM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: > tag 541402 +help > thanks > > On Thursday 13 August

anyone successfully using KDE4 on Alpha?

2009-08-13 Thread Bob Tracy
on the Alpha, and I don't mean to imply otherwise. -- -------- Bob Tracy | "Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand." r...@frus.com | -- Bill Kennedy -

Re: squeeze: graphical environment broken

2009-06-23 Thread Bob Tracy
-k and the X people. If nothing else, I would think the kernel people could provide a clue as to what got stomped on and how. -- Bob Tracy | "Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand." r...@frus.com

followup: squeeze: graphical environment broken

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Tracy
nother improvement is, the terminal window in the hung gnome session continues to function when the window manager dies. -- -------- Bob Tracy | "Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand." r...@fru

squeeze: graphical environment broken

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Tracy
orry for the non-specific bug report, but I personally haven't seen things this badly broken in userland for a long time... -- Bob Tracy | "Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand." r...@frus.com

Re: Installing on a Alpha XL 300

2009-04-14 Thread Bob Tracy
m there, you *should* be able to do an upgrade to 5.0 ("lenny"). Good luck! Let us know how it goes... -- Bob Tracy | "Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand." r...@frus.com |

Re: man-db_2.5.4-1 broken on Alpha

2009-03-12 Thread Bob Tracy
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 05:36:44PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think you mean 'squeeze' here. :) You reported that this was a problem > with 2.5.4-1, not 2.5.2-4; 2.5.4-1 is not in lenny. I'm an idiot... I'll go away now :-). When lenny went live, I stayed with "testing" and a dist-upgrade

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