Re: upgrade from x86 to amd64

2011-03-07 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 04:25:01AM -0500, Morty wrote: Advantages: shops with a mix of x86 and amd64 systems can have one master x86 build image that can be automatically upgraded to amd64 as needed. Shops with existing x86 systems that want to upgrade to amd64 hardware can copy the existing

RE: low vision

2011-03-06 Thread Kevin Hogan
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Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures

2011-03-06 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: I'll make gcc-4.5 the default for (at least some) architectures within the next two weeks before more transitions start.  GCC-4.5 is already used as the default compiler for almost any other distribution, so there

Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures

2011-03-06 Thread Sythos
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:34:01 +0100 Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: I'll make gcc-4.5 the default for (at least some) architectures within the next two weeks before more transitions start. GCC-4.5 is already used as the default compiler for almost any other distribution, so there

Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures

2011-03-06 Thread John David Anglin
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: I'll make gcc-4.5 the default for (at least some) architectures within th= e next two weeks before more transitions start. =A0GCC-4.5 is already used as th= e default compiler for almost any other distribution, so there

Re: low vision

2011-03-06 Thread Ross Cameron
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Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures

2011-03-02 Thread Martin Guy
On 2 March 2011 02:34, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote:   armel (although optimized for a different processor) Hi For which processor (/architecture) is it optimized, and do you mean optimized-for, or only-runs-on? I ask in case this would mean dumping all the armv4t systems that are using

Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures

2011-03-02 Thread Matthias Klose
On 02.03.2011 17:54, Martin Guy wrote: On 2 March 2011 02:34, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: armel (although optimized for a different processor) Hi For which processor (/architecture) is it optimized, and do you mean optimized-for, or only-runs-on? I ask in case this would mean

Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures

2011-03-01 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On 2 March 2011 03:34, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: I'll make gcc-4.5 the default for (at least some) architectures within the next two weeks before more transitions start. GCC-4.5 is already used as the default compiler for almost any other distribution, so there shouldn't be many

Re: Et vous, faites-vous parler de vous ?

2011-02-24 Thread Serge BILLECARD
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Re: touchscreen issue

2011-02-05 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Saturday 05 February 2011 14:37:02 dage...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I don't really know where to ask for it. So I start on this list. The touchpad of my laptop works well, but I can't make the click on the touchpad works, meaning I must use the touchpad buttons to click, double-click and

Re: touchscreen issue

2011-02-05 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 04:04:36PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Saturday 05 February 2011 14:37:02 dage...@free.fr wrote: [configuring touchpad to click on tap] You can set it from either gnome or kde desktop. For kde you need kde-config- touchpad, for gnome, no idea.

Re: touchscreen issue

2011-02-05 Thread ael
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:37:02PM +0100, dage...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I don't really know where to ask for it. So I start on this list. The touchpad of my laptop works well, but I can't make the click on the touchpad works, meaning I must use the touchpad buttons to click,

Re: touchscreen issue

2011-02-05 Thread dagecko
Thanks all for the replies. If I submitted here for a bug, this was because tools for KDE or gnome didn't make the tap tool to work. And since now xorg.conf doesn't come by default with xorg, I didn't thought about it. Thanks ael for pointed it, it did the job ! Sorry for the disturb :) -

Re: debian system can't boot on hp 385 g7 server

2011-01-19 Thread Daniel Urbancik, Jr
hi... Have you upgraded all firmware via RILO? Try to downoad all newest firmware for linux, for raid controller, nw stuff, etc, uptade it via RILO and then reboot. What raid controller are you using? Just on mobo or some addon? d. On 1/19/11, kechen zhang zhangkechen2...@gmail.com wrote: hello

Re: debian system can't boot on hp 385 g7 server

2011-01-19 Thread Fabricio Cannini
Em Quarta-feira 19 Janeiro 2011, às 13:13:21, kechen zhang escreveu: hello my friend, i'm sorry to bother you,but i need your help ,and i don't know who can help me ... Our company have bought 3 servers , hp 385 g7 , but there's something wrong after i have installed

Re: autodock packages

2011-01-19 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:55:49PM +0100, Francesco Pietra wrote: The suite autodock (docking small molecules onto a macromolecule) is a GNU fast evolving code. In Debian testing we find in fact the latest version 4.3. In Debian stable the autodock version is at 4.0, which is no more in use,

Re: autodock packages

2011-01-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:45:14PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: I (vaguely) know the reasons for all that, being intrinsic to the rules of Debian. However, it remains that such deb compilations are a waste of time from both the side of the maintainers and the users. I hope a day will

Re: help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive

2010-12-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:48:35AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: Windows of course saw the scanner right off the bat and then scanned some files and rebooted into Debian mounted the Windows disk on the linux tree and ran gscantopdf on the scanned files and worked round my scanning problem.

Re: help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive

2010-12-10 Thread A J Stiles
On Friday 10 Dec 2010, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:48:35AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: Windows of course saw the scanner right off the bat and then scanned some files and rebooted into Debian mounted the Windows disk on the linux tree and ran gscantopdf on the

Re: help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive

2010-12-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 04:45:00PM +, A J Stiles wrote: Sort of makes you wonder why the EU haven't already made it a legal requirement for hardware manufacturers to supply driver Source Code, if they want to sell their products in any European country. How much otherwise perfectly

Re: Re: Renaming this list into debian-amd64

2010-12-09 Thread MJ Bergener
LG Marianne

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
There's nothing amd64 specific in this question, debian-user would have been better. On Qua, 08 Dez 2010, Michael Fothergill wrote: I bought an extra SATA drive and hooked it up so now I have two one with Debian on it. My plan is to install Windows on the new drive.. If you installed

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread id id
trust grub to boot Windows that trust Windows to boot anything that is not Windows. -- I don't get no respect. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI ( The crux of the matter -- trust ) Is debian-lenny open source? Windoze obfuscated? Best to have two separate boxes interconnected by ether-net.

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 11:43:02AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debian folks, I an running Lenny on an AMD64 box. I have 8GB of RAM on the machine in anticipation of putting Windows 7 on the machine. I know many Debian folks don't bother with Windows but I need it for certain

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Robert Goley
Partition magic really isn't worth it anymore. It rarely works with modern large disks. I agree. A similar open source solution that works better is GParted. They have a bootable iso that gives you the same type of functionality.

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Robert Isaac
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct * Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Robert Isaac
It is possible I think to modify the bootloader in Windows (without using e.g. Partition Magic) to sniff out the Linux and allow you to choice of booting it when you boot up the PC.. Yes, but it's fragile and not worth doing that way. Depends on the version of grub:

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Whit Hansell
Michael, I've got a dual boot. Linux on one drive and WXP on another. Very easy to set up. But as I remember, when I installed Windows, I disconnected the Linux drive while doing the install, then put the WXP drive on middle connector of ATA cable when I had that situation. But now I have

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Whit Hansell
Michael, I just re-checked my instructions I had for myself elsewhere and found I had made a mistake. In the menu.lst file make sure there IS a space between the (hd0) and (hd1). Sorry about that. HTH's Whit Whit Hansell wrote: Michael, I've got a dual boot. Linux on one drive and WXP

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 12:43:42AM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: Not sure how to fix this one. The possible source of the problem is iceweasel, alsa, java, amd64.. I can't find much other than other people saying it didn't work. Flash works fine - I understand it talks directly to alsa.

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/07/2010 12:43 AM, Karl Schmidt wrote: [snip] Here is a java sound test - can anyone get this to work via iceweasel/squeeze on amd64? Where is the Java sound test? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 12/07/2010 10:40 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 12:43:42AM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: Not sure how to fix this one. The possible source of the problem is iceweasel, alsa, java, amd64.. I can't find much other than other people saying it didn't work. Flash works fine

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:38:12AM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: Interesting - Pulse audio seems to be being pushed as a new sound server There is this from wikipedia http://www.javasonics.com/support/check_play.html I'm not understanding the whole of the sound picture in the Linux world - I

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Isaac
On 11/29/10, Tomasz Nitecki t...@tnnn.pl wrote: On 29/11/10 17:00, dage...@free.fr wrote: Anyway, just a remark, I have noticed that just after the installation of Debian AMD 64, there's no xorg.conf file at all, but X runs well. Any hints to make me understand ? It 'just works' due to its

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread dagecko
- brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net a écrit : Is your installation i386 with a 64-bit kernel, or is it amd64? Right. In fact ,it is i386 with 64-bit kernel. What it sounds like to me is that you're using a 64-bit kernel on i386, which is supported by Debian (and in

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/29/2010 04:06 AM, dage...@free.fr wrote: - brian m. carlsonsand...@crustytoothpaste.net a écrit : Is your installation i386 with a 64-bit kernel, or is it amd64? Right. In fact ,it is i386 with 64-bit kernel. What it sounds like to me is that you're using a 64-bit kernel on

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread dagecko
Note that in the NVIDIA world there *is* a way to do this, so you might want to Google for something like: Linux fglrx 64-bit kernel 32-bit userland Thank you. I installed AMD 64 debian, and the installation of the driver just went fine ! Sorry to have bother you all with such a

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread Tomasz Nitecki
On 29/11/10 17:00, dage...@free.fr wrote: Anyway, just a remark, I have noticed that just after the installation of Debian AMD 64, there's no xorg.conf file at all, but X runs well. Any hints to make me understand ? It 'just works' due to its ability to auto-configure itself. Take a look at

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-28 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:14:43PM +0100, dage...@free.fr wrote: Here is the problem: I can't install official ATI drivers for my graphic card when using 64 bits kernels (tested on lenny and squeeze). Is your installation i386 with a 64-bit kernel, or is it amd64? At the end, X programs

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 21:29:07 -0500, Matt Turner wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit : On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: What's the actual

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries.

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries.

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Roland McGrath
This change is one I can agree with on technical grounds, though it will cause a great deal of pain in the short term. Have we got any estimates on exactly how much breakage will result before the change gets made? Fedora already made the change a full release cycles ago, and Fedora package

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be [101114 14:08]: People have been claiming that constructors or init section are a possible problem. I have yet to see an example where it breaks. The following example is a bit constructed, but shows a silent change of run-time behaviour if --as-needed is passed:

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:49:08AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 21:29:07 -0500, Matt Turner wrote: I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary. Check out http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml --as-needed has saved tons

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steve Langasek, le Tue 16 Nov 2010 09:14:40 -0800, a écrit : I don't argue that this makes --as-needed *correct* as a default, but I think it's clear how using --as-needed may benefit a distribution in terms of reducing churn when library dependencies change. We agree on the second part, but

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Matthias Klose
On 16.11.2010 10:42, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roland McGrath: I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary. It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I called anything in it. So it's more like static linking. 8-) IMHO, the current

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 07:04:53PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 16.11.2010 10:42, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 - halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:58:52PM -0300, Felipe Valverde wrote: Definitively the culprit is the new driver. I tried the testing and the unstable driver but they just do not work properly. They will freeze my laptop as soon as I try to connect to a wireless network. My fix is just a

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 15.11.2010 07:16, Roland McGrath wrote: mattst88 airlied_, does Fedora use --as-needed by default? Fedora 14 too? airlied_ mattst88: yes The naming of the options makes people easily confused. --no-add-needed is the only option Fedora's gcc passes. yes, OpenSuse is using --as-needed,

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote: While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the use of --as-needed *at all*. If a library has been explicitly linked in, it shouldn't be removed. This

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: maybe, and fix it in N - ~100 packages? Or fix the ~100 packages? The point of injection is for discussion. I would prefer having this set in dpkg-buildflags, and then disabled by these ~100 packages. Note that this is probably

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roland McGrath
On 15.11.2010 07:16, Roland McGrath wrote: yes, OpenSuse is using --as-needed, but not --no-add-needed. That is a pretty nutty choice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote: While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the use of --as-needed *at all*. If a

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 16.11.2010 01:24, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote: While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve? The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked in as a result of using pkg-config (and various other -config variants), though there are other, lesser,

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roland McGrath
I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary. It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I called anything in it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit : On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve? The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked in as a result of using pkg-config (and various

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit : On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve? The answer is mainly

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know about

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:19:10PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:51:49PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:19:10PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:19:08PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:51:49PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:19:10PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Adam Goode
On 11/14/2010 12:42 PM, Matt Turner wrote: Please ignore me if I've misunderstood the situation, firstly. Both Fedora and Gentoo are using --as-needed by default now. And from what I've read (google: site:blog.flameeyes.eu as-needed) --as-needed is certainly useful and prevents lots of

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Adam Goode a...@spicenitz.org wrote: On 11/14/2010 12:42 PM, Matt Turner wrote: Please ignore me if I've misunderstood the situation, firstly. Both Fedora and Gentoo are using --as-needed by default now. And from what I've read (google: site:blog.flameeyes.eu

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Roland McGrath
mattst88 airlied_, does Fedora use --as-needed by default? Fedora 14 too? airlied_ mattst88: yes The naming of the options makes people easily confused. --no-add-needed is the only option Fedora's gcc passes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 - halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-13 Thread Felipe Valverde
Hi Definitively the culprit is the new driver. I tried the testing and the unstable driver but they just do not work properly. They will freeze my laptop as soon as I try to connect to a wireless network. My fix is just a band-aid and it can't be considered a good fix, but it works. In order

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 - halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-11 Thread Andres Migliazzo
Felipe, I have my Intel 5100 wireless card working again. This is what I did: 1. Purged the firmware-iwlwifi 0.27 from my system. 2. Installed this one instead: firmware-iwlwi 0.24~bpo50+1 Binary firmware for Intel Wireless 3945, 496 I've downloaded this .deb from the lenny backports:

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Allums
On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start orphaner there are two packages, which are marked as essentials. These packages are diff and mktemp, but they are below oldlibs. Can they safely to be removed, as they are meanwhile old? Or

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
some packages has been grouped... diff in diffutils mktemp in coreutils both in squeeze On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start orphaner there are two

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Allums
On 11/10/2010 6:58 AM, Mark Allums wrote: On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start orphaner there are two packages, which are marked as essentials. These packages are diff and mktemp, but they are below oldlibs. Can they safely to be

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2010 schrieb Jaime Ochoa Malagón: some packages has been grouped... diff in diffutils mktemp in coreutils both in squeeze On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 - halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-10 Thread Andres Migliazzo
I was WRONG. As soon as I rebooted and attempted to connect to my wireless network the system hangs. 1. I've purged firmware-iwlwifi firmware-linux-nonfree from the system. 2. Rebooted. 3. With the system online I've installed firmware-iwlwifi. 4. Unplugged the network cable and enables the

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know about

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-26 Thread Whit Hansell
Thanks Brian. Info much appreciated. Whit brian m. carlson wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - which

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread sigi
Hi Whit, last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - which failed. apt-get always complained, that the kernel-image needs the new udev-package to upgrade - and udev itself

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - which failed. apt-get always complained, that the kernel-image needs the

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: Hi Whit, last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - which failed. apt-get always complained, that the kernel-image

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 02:42:54PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: Hi Whit, last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:10:09PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - then the kernel - then distupgrade. And was your system up and usable during pretty

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Karl Schmidt
I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - then the kernel - then distupgrade. It worked - but - there is always some cruft that accumulates - so if you have time, you might want to bkup your

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 10/25/2010 09:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:10:09PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - then the kernel - then distupgrade. And was

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-24 Thread Sam Varghese
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:35:31PM -0400 Whit Hansell said: Just thinking that since Squeeze is coming up to be the new stable and have been running Lenny since March of 2009, I was wondering about how difficult it would be to change from Lenny(stable) to Squeeze(testing) now. big snip I

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-24 Thread Whit Hansell
Hey Sam, Thanks for the reply. It's helpful. Gracias Whit Sam Varghese wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:35:31PM -0400 Whit Hansell said: Just thinking that since Squeeze is coming up to be the new stable and have been running Lenny since March of 2009, I was wondering about how

Re: cannot mount LVM logical volume in /etc/fstab

2010-10-17 Thread Seb
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:52:26 -0500, Seb splu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Debian sid system, I successfully created a LVM logical volume in a volume group in a USB external hard drive using system-config-lvm. The logical volume was designated as ext3, created a mount point for it under /media,

Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext

2010-10-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com writes: On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:17 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: While gcc compiling a complex program (AmberTools of Amber suite, a molecular dynamics package) on amd64 lenny (in the past it compiled smoothly on this system): ./configure_at gcc make -f

Re: Lotus notes on amd64?

2010-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 09/20/2010 10:49 AM, d...@nc.rr.com wrote: [snip] That said, I found this while looking for links to info on how to do the above and decided to stop looking, and recommend a total boycott. After years of experience. your choice. http://homepage.mac.com/bradster/iarchitect/lotus.htm

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-18 Thread Robert Isaac
I'm afraid it's not possible, as Lotus Notes is a non-free email/collaboration suite from IBM: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus If the Source Code is not available then that is surely, in and of itself, a good enough reason to run it inside a chroot -- that way, it can't get at

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread A J Stiles
On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: Hi, I have to install lotus notes here. Our IT guys have provided me with the file ibm_lotus_notes-8.5.i586.deb (linux support here is minimal). [stuff deleted] Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? I'd prefer not to have to set

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
ia32-apt-get :-P jajajja On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote: Hi,        I have to install lotus notes here.  Our IT guys have provided me with the file ibm_lotus_notes-8.5.i586.deb (linux support here is minimal).   Following instructions from

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread Christopher Judd
On Thursday 16 September 2010 11:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: Hi, I have to install lotus notes here. Our IT guys have provided me with the file ibm_lotus_notes-8.5.i586.deb (linux support here is minimal). [stuff deleted] Did

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread A J Stiles
On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Fabricio Cannini wrote: On Thursday 16 September 2010 12:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: In general, it is best not to try to run anything that was not compiled by either yourself or your own distro's package maintainers. Try grabbing the other distro (i.e., Source Code)

Re: Lotus notes on amd64?

2010-09-16 Thread Christopher Judd
On Thursday 16 September 2010 13:02:11 Fabricio Cannini wrote: On Thursday 16 September 2010 12:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: Hi, I have to install lotus notes here. Our IT guys have provided me with the file

Re: Intel mac support for Squeeze?

2010-09-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:02:31 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: [I'm not on this mailing list - it'd be kindness if you CCd any replies] Hi, What's the status of Intel Mac support in Squeeze? I have managed to install lenny on an intel mac pro, but it was a bit of a faff (and involved

Re: Having trouble establishing IP masquerading

2010-09-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:10:30PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've been IP masquerading for years. But now my Pentium front-end machine has bit the dust, and I'm setting up my server to do the masquerading itself. It's and AMD65 running Debian lenny: hend...@lovesong:~$ uname -a Linux

Re: Intel mac support for Squeeze?

2010-09-13 Thread Brian Morris
On 9/12/10, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:02:31 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: [I'm not on this mailing list - it'd be kindness if you CCd any replies] Hi, What's the status of Intel Mac support in Squeeze? I had it going for the 1st half of the year on my

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