Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/03/2015 04:48 PM, John Hasler wrote: Renaud writes: Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several) diagonal pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck... Or to number your cards so that you could simply run a scrambled deck through the card sorter. That's

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote: On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not really be a problem in this situation. I see I've

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/04/2015 05:44 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote: On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not really be

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/03/2015 05:30 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list. I sure appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I actually have the systems in hand. You could always

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Ron
0C7 and 0CB compile errors anyone ? Cheers, Ron. -- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they come to fight you, and then you win. -- Gandhi

RE: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Larry Owens
-Original Message- From: Jose Martinez [mailto:jomartinez...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:51 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Old Computers On 06/03/2015 05:30 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: I see

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Jose Martinez wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Jose Martinez wrote: Yeah, there's nothing like making an antique useful. I remember the days of the PDP-11 running *nixWhat I wouldn't give to come up with one of those old things!! My first programming class, back in 1976 was on a

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/02/2015 11:45 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 06/02/2015 08:11 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: On 06/02/2015 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100,

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Ron
On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:08:44 -0700 Larry Owens ow...@netptc.net wrote: And do you remember carrying your punched card deck from the keypunch room to the data center--and have someone bump into you and spill the cards on the floor? Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Mike McClain
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not really be a problem in this situation. I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list. I

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread John Hasler
Renaud writes: Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several) diagonal pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck... Or to number your cards so that you could simply run a scrambled deck through the card sorter. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list. I sure appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I actually have the systems in hand. You could always try mining Bitcoin:

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Jose Martinez jomartinez...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I'm about to be blessed with several old PC computers. By old I mean that some of them will not even have CDROM drives on them. I will probably tear them all down, mix-and-match parts and make the best

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Ron
I'm about to be blessed with several old PC computers. By old I mean that some of them will not even have CDROM drives on them. Dont throw them away before considering that some may be given a second life, as dedicated firewall boxes, using the IPCop or IPFire distributions. Cheers,

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Doug
On 06/02/2015 02:01 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/02/2015 11:07 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/02/2015 11:07 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) I think even squeeze

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/02/2015 12:41 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 02/06/15 12:49 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 17:37:01 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) I thought of DSL. But it needs

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/02/2015 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 06/02/2015 08:11 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: On 06/02/2015 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) I think even squeeze would be a challenge (maybe a fun one though!) when it comes to ram and disk space. But there's

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 08:32:01AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: ... Look around and see if you can find a copy of fvwm 1.24r - I ran that for years on a 386 with little RAM without any problems. Version 2 is a little heavier, but you can compile it yourself and leave out options you don't

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) I think even squeeze would be a challenge (maybe a fun one

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread lostson
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-) I

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: Hmm, that is a little disappointing. But, I can probably run Squeeze.

RE: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Arno Schuring
From: lisi.re...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100 On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote: I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-(

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=damnsmall I was thinking more along the lines

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 June 2015 17:37:01 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Gary Dale
On 02/06/15 12:49 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2015 17:37:01 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage computers :) I thought of DSL. But it needs an i486. :-( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-02 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 23:39:15 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: On 01/06/15 10:10 PM, Martin Read wrote: On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Jose Martinez
On 06/01/2015 09:10 PM, Martin Read wrote: On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that the processors on at least one of them will be at least i386 or better, so I

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/06/15 10:10 PM, Martin Read wrote: On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that the processors on at least one of them will be at least i386 or better, so I also

Re: Old Computers

2015-06-01 Thread Martin Read
On 02/06/15 01:56, Jose Martinez wrote: The question is, will jessie install and run on these old systems? If not, can I still get a debian distro that will? I expect that the processors on at least one of them will be at least i386 or better, so I also expect that jessie will install and run,